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@  RichardT1977 : (21 October 2017 - 12:07 PM)

You know that Patton Oswalt knew he'd made it as an entertainer when people stopped asking him whether he was Pat or Oswald and where was the other one.

@  Shrug : (21 October 2017 - 10:20 AM)

He does lots of voice work, but it was young Oswalt in my dream, so I guess it was the King of Queens edition.

@  Bass X0 : (21 October 2017 - 09:56 AM)

I only know about Patton Oswalt from Transformers.

@  Shrug : (21 October 2017 - 09:11 AM)

We won because Ellen kept going up the other teams and telling them to not worry about their hair looking silly in their helmets.

@  Shrug : (21 October 2017 - 09:10 AM)

I had a dream I was in a team kick scooter competition and the 3 people on my team were Ellen DeGeneres, Patton Oswalt, and my third grade bus driver.

@  WorkbenchManiac : (20 October 2017 - 07:26 PM)

If you are looking to recoup some of the costs, I mean

@  WorkbenchManiac : (20 October 2017 - 07:26 PM)

If it works, I might be willing to take it off your hands. I've been meaning to get one for customs and such.

@  Nevermore : (20 October 2017 - 12:34 PM)

If that thing works, I can use it for potential future cases like this as well.

@  Nevermore : (20 October 2017 - 12:33 PM)

Ordered a watchmaker pin remover from Amazon.

@  Nevermore : (20 October 2017 - 12:33 PM)

No, bought the set at a convention.

@  Robowang : (20 October 2017 - 08:14 AM)

That's never good. Buy it from a place that will replace it?

@  Nevermore : (20 October 2017 - 04:57 AM)

Gaaaah, Hasbro. My Transformers Tribute Optimus Prime (from the two-pack with Orion Pack) has a misassembled part that has another part connected to it via a metal pin...

@  Robowang : (19 October 2017 - 05:22 PM)

I just know they have the same ID number in the computer as deluxes, so the search feature on the website is useless.

@  Robowang : (19 October 2017 - 05:21 PM)

No idea on price.

@  Shrug : (19 October 2017 - 05:14 PM)

Oh thanks. I just assumed it was a special item. Does that mean it'll be the $18ish the normal Deluxes are or can Walgreens price them separately?

@  Robowang : (19 October 2017 - 05:11 PM)

Before you go hunting at Walgreens, know that the Clone two-pack number is identical to the regular deluxe number. An in-stock listing for the clones likely just means they have deluxes in stock.

@  Vexwing : (19 October 2017 - 04:49 PM)

I had met him at BotCon 2014, he was a vendor there. He was part of the group I hung out with at the day at Universal. Really fun guy, it's sad he's gone.

@  Vexwing : (19 October 2017 - 04:46 PM)

I'm not sure if anyone here knew James Conan Gouig, but he passed away. Suicide, sadly.

@  Locoman : (19 October 2017 - 03:49 PM)

TR Triggerhappy's shoulders are terrifying.

@  SHIELD Agent 47 : (19 October 2017 - 03:18 PM)

Don't you hate when you join a Facebook group only to find that the moderator is a fool?

@  TheMightyMol... : (19 October 2017 - 03:04 PM)

CRAAAAAAAWLING IIIIIN MY BRAAAAAAAAINS

@  Paladin : (19 October 2017 - 08:34 AM)

must've been out of Kandrona.

@  Shrug : (19 October 2017 - 07:09 AM)

Least it wasn't a weird scratchy noise IN YOUR BRAIN.  Or was it.  Maybe you found it after it crawled out?

@  Tm_Silverclaw : (19 October 2017 - 02:47 AM)

Mine starved

@  Waspinator : (19 October 2017 - 02:16 AM)

Watch out for brain slugs

@  Pennpenn : (19 October 2017 - 01:34 AM)

Got replacements, so yeah. Main thing is, if you hear a weird scratchy noise in your headphones it might not be static..

@  PlutoniumBoss : (19 October 2017 - 01:28 AM)

Nuke the headphones from orbit, it's the only way to be sure.

@  Pennpenn : (18 October 2017 - 09:04 PM)

It's interesting how life gives you a good thing and then a bad thing. Like, just got my tax return and it was quite robust, and then I found an INCH LONG EARWIG IN MY HEADPHONES. AHHHHH-

@  BlackMax : (18 October 2017 - 05:50 PM)

I'm not completely sure what I missed but I think I love it.

@  TheMightyMol... : (18 October 2017 - 04:20 PM)

The S is for Sucks!

@  Waspinator : (18 October 2017 - 03:49 PM)

And the thatch-roofed cottagggggggggggges!

@  TheMightyMol... : (18 October 2017 - 03:30 PM)

BURN! BURN TO THE GRBURN! BURN TO THBURN! BURN TO THE GROUND!

@  Waspinator : (18 October 2017 - 03:06 PM)

Infinity Big Bang Storm! Burn in the everlasting hellfire of creation! Be utterly annihilated, down to the very last scrap of D N A!

@  Shrug : (18 October 2017 - 02:57 PM)

YES, MY QUEEN!

@  Tm_Silverclaw : (18 October 2017 - 02:37 PM)

BUUUUURN! FOR THE ROYALTY!

@  TheMightyMol... : (18 October 2017 - 02:25 PM)

BUUUUUUUUUUUURN, BABY BURN! DISCO INFERNO!

@  Agamus : (18 October 2017 - 01:55 PM)

LETS BERNNNN RRRRUBBER!!!!

@  Arazyr : (18 October 2017 - 01:12 PM)

No, thanks. I'll leave that to his wife. :p

@  SHIELD Agent 47 : (18 October 2017 - 01:08 PM)

FEEL THE BERNNNNNN!!!!!

@  Nevermore : (18 October 2017 - 11:52 AM)

BERNIEEEEEEEE...

@  Shrug : (18 October 2017 - 10:47 AM)

I'm not saying they're the same. They're clearly not. But members of both parties do receive large sums of money from telecom companies. When it comes to net neutrality, the issue isn't solely bipartisan so much as it's Old Politicians that don't understand technology.  Republicans do seem intent on making it worse intentionally though.

@  Paladin : (18 October 2017 - 10:40 AM)

anyone who still says "they're both the same!" after the past 10 months is WILLFULLY ignorant.

@  unluckiness : (18 October 2017 - 10:22 AM)

I'm not American. Should I do something about it or just ignore it.

@  Shrug : (18 October 2017 - 08:48 AM)

I doubt we'd have a chance with Hillary either. Didn't she get like 100k from Comcast? Both parties are pretty dang corrupt. If only Bernie...

@  2017 : (17 October 2017 - 05:56 PM)

It scared me!

@  Kalidor : (17 October 2017 - 05:42 PM)

Yes - here is more information - https://www.battleforthenet.com/

@  Darth Gonzo : (17 October 2017 - 05:36 PM)

Hello?

@  Evac : (17 October 2017 - 04:39 PM)

Yeah, it's the Allspark.

@  wonko the sane? : (17 October 2017 - 04:35 PM)

Okay, so it is the allspark doing it, and not some piece of malware I need to run a system scan over, that's basically all I wanted to know.

@  Evac : (17 October 2017 - 04:34 PM)

If, say, Hillary or Bernie was president, we'd have a chance, but with the current administration... We're pretty much hugged.


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#281 (Deactivated) mignash

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Posted 17 January 2011 - 09:20 AM

Again some people seem to be missing the point of this thread. It's not to make excuses. It's not to make individual articles for every Transformer on WIkipedia. It's to provide a wikipedia page for Fun Publications. If anyone has any sources that might help please post them. If you are going to complain about wikipedia policy or promote a fanwalky... I mean fanwiki, try another thread.

Edited by mignash, 17 January 2011 - 09:29 AM.


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Posted 17 January 2011 - 12:59 PM

QUOTE(Nevermore @ Jan 17 2011, 06:12 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Of course, the flaw with that is what is referred to as "favor journalism" or "courtesy journalism" in German (is there an established English term?), which is becoming more and more widespread these days: As far as Wikipedia is concerned, General Motors stating "facts" about their latest car on their own website is not notable. But when General Motors has Car Magazine reiterate their "facts" in a press release barely disguised as "journalistic" coverage, it suddenly becomes notable.

What's hilarious is that this has even resulted in Wikipedia essentially money laundering unsourced facts in its articles into being "acceptably sourced": http://tech.slashdot...9/02/10/2211220

QUOTE(mignash @ Jan 17 2011, 09:20 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Again some people seem to be missing the point of this thread. It's not to make excuses. It's not to make individual articles for every Transformer on WIkipedia. It's to provide a wikipedia page for Fun Publications. If anyone has any sources that might help please post them. If you are going to complain about wikipedia policy or promote a fanwalky... I mean fanwiki, try another thread.

I hate to say it, but I agree with Walky... no matter how reasonable and useful a source is by rational standards, some argument will come up on how it doesn't fit Wikipedia's irrational standards. Case in point, Item42's lame excuses about how your source isn't good enough despite the fact that it does exactly what he wanted. (What the hug does a summary of the plot have to do with proving Shattered Glass exists, it's noticed outside of the fandom, and it's part of Timelines? And of course it uses the BotCon logo multiple times; when you talk about a specific event or company it's NORMAL to use their logo for brand recognition. Dur.)

Like both I and Rosicrucian have noted, there will never be a source that is iron-clad un-shoot-downable because the standard structure of print coverage of things like Transformers doesn't work the way Wikipedia expects its sources to, and they won't acknowledge that their one-size-fits-all approach is ignorant and counterproductive.

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Posted 17 January 2011 - 01:05 PM

Yes, but how does restating the fact that Wikipedia is very arbatrary and badly run help write an article for Fun Publications. If you have some sources to add, please add them so we can reinforce the article from petty deletions. Don't tell me it can't be done, tell me how you can help get it done!

Edited by mignash, 17 January 2011 - 01:09 PM.


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Posted 17 January 2011 - 01:15 PM

QUOTE(mignash @ Jan 17 2011, 01:05 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Don't tell me it can't be done, tell me how you can help get it done!

How do you expect any of us to help you do something that can't be done? I'm not wasting my time finding a source just so Item42 and Xaaron can give me some brain-dead, illogical reason why it's not good enough, which will be all the more annoying because they're probably right that it won't be.

Making fun of their ridiculous illogic is at least cathartic on some level.

I'm honestly not sure why you waste your time, since you'll never get anywhere.

Edited by Jeysie, 17 January 2011 - 01:16 PM.


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Posted 17 January 2011 - 01:17 PM

The definition of insanity is doing the same thing over and over again and expecting different results. We should disengage and be more productive in other areas of our lives.

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Posted 17 January 2011 - 01:19 PM

Pete all but actually asks for help on the Fun Pub Wikipedia article (probably since he can't be seen as orchastrating his own article), and all you people do is dismiss him and quit. That's sad.

Edited by mignash, 17 January 2011 - 01:20 PM.


#287 Jeysie

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Posted 17 January 2011 - 01:36 PM

QUOTE(mignash @ Jan 17 2011, 01:19 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Pete all but actually asks for help on the Fun Pub Wikipedia article (probably since he can't be seen as orchastrating his own article), and all you people do is dismiss him and quit. That's sad.

What's sad is that you can't accept this is a hopeless cause.

I'm always more than willing to help Pete where I can, but this is one case where nothing can be done. I honestly don't get what help you expect us to provide when Item42 and Xaaron have made it crystal clear that every bit of possible help we could think of will be deemed not acceptable. Wave a magic wand and change reality, perhaps?

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Posted 17 January 2011 - 01:36 PM

QUOTE(mignash @ Jan 17 2011, 06:19 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Pete all but actually asks for help on the Fun Pub Wikipedia article (probably since he can't be seen as orchastrating his own article), and all you people do is dismiss him and quit. That's sad.


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Posted 17 January 2011 - 01:41 PM

QUOTE(mignash @ Jan 17 2011, 01:19 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Pete all but actually asks for help on the Fun Pub Wikipedia article (probably since he can't be seen as orchastrating his own article), and all you people do is dismiss him and quit. That's sad.


Pete also asked that you not support knockoffs of BotCon product, but you kind of threw that back in his face, didn't you?

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Posted 17 January 2011 - 01:41 PM

QUOTE(Jeysie @ Jan 17 2011, 06:59 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
QUOTE(Nevermore @ Jan 17 2011, 06:12 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Of course, the flaw with that is what is referred to as "favor journalism" or "courtesy journalism" in German (is there an established English term?), which is becoming more and more widespread these days: As far as Wikipedia is concerned, General Motors stating "facts" about their latest car on their own website is not notable. But when General Motors has Car Magazine reiterate their "facts" in a press release barely disguised as "journalistic" coverage, it suddenly becomes notable.

What's hilarious is that this has even resulted in Wikipedia essentially money laundering unsourced facts in its articles into being "acceptably sourced": http://tech.slashdot...9/02/10/2211220


Yup, that story caused some brief anti-Wikipedia bru-hah over here back when it happened.
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Posted 17 January 2011 - 07:16 PM

QUOTE(mignash @ Jan 17 2011, 06:20 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Again some people seem to be missing the point of this thread. It's not to make excuses. It's not to make individual articles for every Transformer on WIkipedia. It's to provide a wikipedia page for Fun Publications. If anyone has any sources that might help please post them. If you are going to complain about wikipedia policy or promote a fanwalky... I mean fanwiki, try another thread.

If people think that a Fun Publications page on Wikipedia isn't appropriate, it is wholly on-topic for them to come on and say why it isn't. If they think it is appropriate, it is wholly on-topic for them to come on and discuss the relevant Wikipedia policies that either help or hinder that goal.

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Posted 17 January 2011 - 07:47 PM

QUOTE(mignash @ Jan 17 2011, 01:19 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Pete all but actually asks for help on the Fun Pub Wikipedia article (probably since he can't be seen as orchastrating his own article), and all you people do is dismiss him and quit. That's sad.

What's sad is that you can't let it go and accept that regardless of how much you want this, its not going to happen under the current wikipedia policies, no matter how you frame your arguments. What's sad is that you can't seem to accept that a handful of us aren't going to change wikipedia policies, because we aren't responsible for such things. What's sad is that you are trying to guilt-trip others into helping you beat your head against the wikipedia wall out of pointless stubborn pride.

So don't you dare stoop to trying these tactics with your fellow posters in an attempt to get your way. People have better things to do than waste their time on your behalf, and these attempts speak ill of you, whether or not you care.

You see how they try to justify things in this very thread: half-baked excuses, movement of the goal-posts, logical fallacies, and a dogged refusal to accept valid arguments and criticisms about how wikipedia handles pop-culture articles. Basically, no reasoning is good enough for them, because they'll just continue to do what they want and if we don't like it, that's tough. Why you persist in this is beyond me.

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