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@  Trpodeca : (18 January 2020 - 04:21 PM)

I was using my account on another comptuer, and oddly it seemed to default to $US rather than converting it.

@  TM2-Megatron : (18 January 2020 - 02:02 PM)

You should be able to set eBay to display in your local currency, although personally I like to know the actual currency the item is listed in so I know if I need to account for forex fees or not

@  Trpodeca : (18 January 2020 - 06:34 AM)

I'd also like to take the opportunity to say I despise Ebay for showing the list prices in US money.

@  Trpodeca : (18 January 2020 - 06:23 AM)

Well there is an overpriced limited edition, but I don't want to pay that much money for it.

@  Trpodeca : (18 January 2020 - 06:21 AM)

Well great. The one Usagi Yojimbo volume I don't have and it's out of stock.

@  Rycochet : (17 January 2020 - 06:15 PM)

I both love and hate that the Alien franchise seems to have had more luck finding a niche as a line of children's toys than it has at producing worthwhile films.

@  Donocropolis : (17 January 2020 - 06:35 AM)

I've seen them on the shelves at Walmart. They're pretty great looking retro Aliens toys. https://www.walmart....-Vary/934039489

@  fourteenwings : (17 January 2020 - 01:11 AM)

IIRC somebody on here mentioned an unbranded Alien toy a couple of weeks ago? It seems like it was actually part of a collection for the Alien movie series by Lanard. Mattel's making some stuff too.

@  NotVeryKnightly : (16 January 2020 - 03:12 PM)

Is it really a worse name than say, HMS Spanker?

@  Maximus Ambus : (16 January 2020 - 02:36 PM)

'Boaty McBoatface' was a actual thing?! Wow.

@  NotVeryKnightly : (14 January 2020 - 02:00 PM)

Might be worth bringing back this thread.

@  ThunderWear : (14 January 2020 - 01:53 PM)

Of course I had the idea to download all the pdfs like a week too late. Anyone got an archive?

@  Steevy Maximus : (14 January 2020 - 12:48 PM)

The Collector Club is dead. Seems like it all came down shortly after New Year

@  ThunderWear : (13 January 2020 - 11:06 PM)

I can't get to the collector club website. anyone else? I was literally going to download all the fiction to finish reading.

@  Maximus Ambus : (13 January 2020 - 04:50 AM)

News today is all 'there's a CHANCE it would snow in July' and 'dogs COULD bite back'.

@  Benbot : (12 January 2020 - 10:05 PM)

Holy crap, do many people get hurt by them?

@  wonko the sane? : (12 January 2020 - 02:11 PM)

Even in fallout, they never carpet bombed with nukes.

@  Maximus Ambus : (12 January 2020 - 12:43 PM)

I hope the stockpiled nuclear weapons of the US and Russia are accounted for then.

@  Nevermore : (12 January 2020 - 12:22 PM)

Geez. 1760 (!) bombs from World War II that had not detonated and were still armed have been found. That's only the numbers for the federal state of Germany I live in, and only for the first three quarters of 2019. For all of 2018, the total number was 2811 (!!) bombs.

@  CVReynolds : (11 January 2020 - 11:05 PM)

I've been wanting a Tarantulas that turns into a more realistic tarantula for a long time. Maybe Takara will someday do a Masterpiece, which would be neat. But I really want to see a modernized look like in the IDW comics.

@  Tm_Silverclaw : (11 January 2020 - 09:43 PM)

We need more Waspinators.. and rattraps.

@  Ashley : (11 January 2020 - 07:09 PM)

I'm on board with that

@  Dekafox : (11 January 2020 - 06:17 PM)

What I'm hearing is we need Cyberverse Waspinator

@  NotVeryKnightly : (10 January 2020 - 01:27 AM)

He's appeared across more branding changes than Waspinator, so maybe it's more the other way around.

@  Ashley : (10 January 2020 - 12:01 AM)

is C3PO the Waspinator of Star Wars? he'll live forever, because it's funny for him to suffer

@  Sabrblade : (09 January 2020 - 11:52 PM)

He's still waiting for them to be funny.

@  ▲ndrusi : (09 January 2020 - 10:35 PM)

Why?

@  Maximus Ambus : (09 January 2020 - 04:02 PM)

I've been watching South Park, Family Guy and The Simpsons with a straight face for a decade now.

@  wonko the sane? : (09 January 2020 - 03:18 PM)

If that's what it takes to get you to take the medication, sure.

@  Bass X0 : (09 January 2020 - 01:52 PM)

If I go crazy, will you still call me Superman?

@  fourteenwings : (09 January 2020 - 11:37 AM)

I mean, it is easier to protect HDDs, and you can retransfer the data over and over forever?

@  NotVeryKnightly : (09 January 2020 - 10:45 AM)

Not in this comparison. He's making his own files, so they're (presumably) not restricted by DRM, so he can copy them as many times as he wants. It's potentially more reliable in the long term than hoping the specific copies you originally bought never accrue any damage for the rest of your life.

@  Echowarrior : (09 January 2020 - 10:44 AM)

I prefer physical copies too. Easier to protect something physical and tangible.

@  Maximus Ambus : (09 January 2020 - 09:55 AM)

I prefer having physical copies.

@  Tm_Silverclaw : (09 January 2020 - 08:56 AM)

I have plenty of physical media I turn into digital media for my plex server. Just finished ripping Ultra Seven

@  fourteenwings : (09 January 2020 - 08:50 AM)

Isn't the general consensus that we're supposed to be over physical media anyways?

@  Paladin : (09 January 2020 - 08:17 AM)

i still don't own a Blu-Ray player.

@  TheMightyMol... : (09 January 2020 - 07:35 AM)

My current TV works just fine. I don't see a need to upgrade. And by the time I do, the Next Big Thing will probably be out anyway.

@  Benbot : (09 January 2020 - 03:58 AM)

Me neither. I'm no rebel, though. I'm just poor.

@  Maximus Ambus : (09 January 2020 - 03:38 AM)

I haven't gone 4K yet, I'm a rebel.

@  Ashley : (07 January 2020 - 11:50 PM)

the comic theme is amazing

@  Bass X0 : (07 January 2020 - 03:18 PM)

Sounds like Victor Caroli but I’m not sure.

@  Bass X0 : (07 January 2020 - 02:35 PM)

Should I recognise the narrator of the Mutant Hunt trailer?

@  Maximus Ambus : (07 January 2020 - 04:30 AM)

I got me Titans Return Blaster, now watch them unveil Earthrise Blaster and Generations Perceptor, a retool of Titans Blaster.

@  ThunderWear : (06 January 2020 - 10:22 PM)

I recently switched to to the comic theme here at the Allspark and I'm so happy I just want to look at it.

@  NotVeryKnightly : (06 January 2020 - 08:12 AM)

Can you not take so many lines to say anything?

@  fourteenwings : (06 January 2020 - 07:47 AM)

Iunno, maybe people having unique pronunciations of things re:how they understand language makes the world a more colourful place, rather than one where we correct every seemingly grievous error?

@  Nevermore : (06 January 2020 - 06:12 AM)

Others insist on "Michael Yackson".

@  Nevermore : (06 January 2020 - 06:01 AM)

Because the very combination of those sounds is unknown to them, and thus they avoid it as if it were contagious.

@  Nevermore : (06 January 2020 - 06:00 AM)

For example, the English "J" sound consists of sounds that exist in German: Basically, it's just a "d" sound followed by a very soft "sh". Yet there are many Germans who insist on calling the late King of Pop "Michael Checkson".


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#1 Petes Robot Con

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Posted 06 January 2011 - 12:11 PM

So, I use the TFwiki for just about all my research, but I needed to check the main Wikipedia site for their description on Shattered Glass and much to my surprise the Timelines page was deleted. I tried to muddle through the discussion, but if anyone can help get this back up it would be greatly appreciated.

From what I read, the person responsible for the deletion seems to know very little about business and seems to think Timelines only appeals to TF fans (though I am not sure how that is relevant?) but we in fact actively market to all pop culture fans through our releases to Asylum, BSC and so on. Our product has been featured in Tomarts We have an annual comic on the newsstands and appear on ICv2's Top 300 comics page. Furthermore, Shattered Glass as you know has become a pop culture staple...

Anyways, again, not sure why they would delete a licensed and Hasbro recognized property.

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Posted 06 January 2011 - 12:17 PM

QUOTE([email protected] @ Jan 6 2011, 09:11 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
So, I use the TFwiki for just about all my research, but I needed to check the main Wikipedia site for their description on Shattered Glass and much to my surprise the Timelines page was deleted. I tried to muddle through the discussion, but if anyone can help get this back up it would be greatly appreciated.

From what I read, the person responsible for the deletion seems to know very little about business and seems to think Timelines only appeals to TF fans (though I am not sure how that is relevant?) but we in fact actively market to all pop culture fans through our releases to Asylum, BSC and so on. Our product has been featured in Tomarts We have an annual comic on the newsstands and appear on ICv2's Top 300 comics page. Furthermore, Shattered Glass as you know has become a pop culture staple...

Anyways, again, not sure why they would delete a licensed and Hasbro recognized property.

The Wikipedia powers-that-be are sometimes militant in their defense of the need to demonstrate "notability." If one can't provide evidence defending how "notable" something is, they try to delete it.

Sometimes, it seems to me that no amount of evidence would be enough. THEY don't think it's important, so they delete it.

Good luck.

Edited by G.B.Blackrock, 06 January 2011 - 12:19 PM.


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Posted 06 January 2011 - 05:49 PM

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Posted 06 January 2011 - 06:07 PM

Articles on Wikipedia need to have reliable secondary sources* to pass muster. Simply being "a licensed and Hasbro recognized property" is not sufficient.

*If you're interested in restoring the article, you're going to spend a lot of time arguing over what consists a "reliable secondary source".

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Posted 06 January 2011 - 06:13 PM

Pete, I attempted to gather sources, it but was shot down. Good news though it it's not really gone forever, I'm making a much smaller version of the article and putting it on thise wikipedia page:

http://en.wikipedia....sformers_comics

Some of the "reliable third party" sources I had gathered on the page before it's deletion included:

-Brereton, Erin (2006). Transformers: The Fantasy, The Fun, The Future. Triumph Books. p. 60. ISBN 1572439831.

- "The Mike The Pod Review: Botcon Exclusive Dreadwind". Mikethepod.com. http://www.mikethepo...BEDreadwind.htm. Retrieved 2010-

-"Transformers Timelines Summer Special - - ComicNewsi.com for Comic Book News, Reviews, Previews, Discussions". Comicnewsi.com. http://comicnewsi.co...=98&itemid=9754. Retrieved 2010-12-12.

-Tomart's Action Figure Digest, No. 164

-"Transformers Timelines Issue 3: Shattered Glass ? Independents ? ComicNewsi.com for Comic Book News, Reviews, Previews, Discussions". Comicnewsi.com. http://comicnewsi.co...12063&catid=186. Retrieved 2010-12-12.

-Remaining Transfixed by Transformers, New York Times, by MICHAEL CIEPLY, Published: May 29, 2009

-"Transformers Collectors' Club releases a photo of Shattered Glass Cyclonus ? TOMOPOP ? COLLECTIBLE TOY CULTURE ? Vinyl toys, Papercraft, Garage kits, Gamer toys, Japanese toys". Tomopop.com. http://tomopop.com/t...nus-11436.phtml. Retrieved 2010-12-12.

-"Transformers Timelines Dion Toy Review". BWTF. 2010-03-16. http://www.bwtf.com/.../timelines/dion. Retrieved 2010-12-12.

-BotCon 2010 Opens Registration, Offers Exclusive 'Generation 2: Redux' Transformers Set, May 20th 2010, by Josh Wigler

-Transformers: Timelines Fall Special Generation 2 Redux, Review by BW Media, Thursday December 2, 2010

-"Transformers Club Magazine ? Comic Preview!". BSCkids. 2010-03-17. http://www.bsckids.c...-comic-preview/. Retrieved 2010-12-12.

-Transformers: Timelines Fall Special Generation 2 Redux, Review by BW Media, Thursday December 2, 2010

I have the full text of the page on my user account for reference.

Mostly it was arguements by Wikipedia member NotARealWord who was responsible for the Timelines page deletion, heading the arguements against anyone who asserted it's notability and examining every source I put forth. He posted about 40 times about how unnotable the page was here http://en.wikipedia....mers:_Timelines and here http://en.wikipedia....2nd_nomination)

So if you can convince him about the page's notability, you might get it back. He is on the Allspark and TFWiki under the name Item42.

Also, the page was frequently sabotaged and harassed by tfwiki and Allspark member Blackout, who runs a series of sock puppet accounts on Wikipedia.

Edited by mignash, 06 January 2011 - 06:29 PM.


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Posted 06 January 2011 - 06:20 PM

BTW - While Timelines may be gone or Greatly reduced, there is no reason we can't collect sources for anentirely new page about Fun Publications, which could include all things Fun Pub does, including the TFclub and Joeclub. Of course we better collect a big list of sources for it or it will be deleted quick.

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Posted 06 January 2011 - 06:56 PM

It sucks when you have someone at FunPub saying hey where our article at and it still being deleted

You would think that FunPub would have control over something like that

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Posted 06 January 2011 - 06:58 PM

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Posted 06 January 2011 - 07:03 PM

QUOTE(tec @ Jan 6 2011, 06:56 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
It sucks when you have someone at FunPub saying hey where our article at and it still being deleted

You would think that FunPub would have control over something like that


The subject of an article is not allowed to edit an article about them. I did write Pete a few weeks ago on the club board asking for any reliable magazine reviews of them so I could site them.

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Posted 06 January 2011 - 07:09 PM

QUOTE(mignash @ Jan 6 2011, 06:20 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
BTW - While Timelines may be gone or Greatly reduced, there is no reason we can't collect sources for anentirely new page about Fun Publications, which could include all things Fun Pub does, including the TFclub and Joeclub. Of course we better collect a big list of sources for it or it will be deleted quick.


What bothered me was whoever is deleting the page was unaware that the comics were released through Diamond. I mean, is this a Transformers person? We have been releasing through Diamond for 5 years, are always featured on numerous websites, TF and non-TF, announcing the solicitation, numerous sites actually selling the book and are listed on the Top 300 and/or Top 25 small publishers.

A simple search would have yielded all of this info:
http://www.comicsbea...-november-2010/

http://www.tfarchive...s/idw/sales.php

http://comicbooks.ab...d100nov06_3.htm

And of course

http://www.icv2.com/...news/16618.html

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Posted 06 January 2011 - 07:15 PM

Yes, I did point that out.

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?KEEP - It's the official line of Fun Publications, a company who is licensed by Hasbro to make Transformers. The comic books were released in the mainstream through normal comic book distruibutors, so the arguement in the nomination that it had "limited release" only is invalid. Mathewignash (talk) 16:31, 28 November 2010 (UTC)

?comment - Really, are they distributed through general comic book retail? My search on Amazon.com didn't find any f them on retail, only user-generated sales of the comics. NotARealWord (talk) 17:32, 30 November 2010 (UTC)

?COMMENT - YES, every year they are sold through Diamond Distributors and solicited in Previews. I pick them up at any local comic book shop. http://newsodrome.co...elease-19876687 Mathewignash (talk) 20:02, 3 December 2010 (UTC)


Sadly there is what NotARealWord is running what he called a "Campaign of Deletion" on Transformers article on Wikipedia. Seemingly unless you have a dozen solid citations from major sources, you get chopped. Heck, they killed the articles on the Dinobot Slag, the Ark and Energon in the last few months!

They really pulled out all the stops to get this article deleted to. For instance when I found reliable review of Shattered Glass Cyclonus on a site and tried to use it as a source, they would say the reviewer didn't say the word "Timelines" in his review, he called it "Shattered Glass Cyclonus", so it wasn't a source I could use for the Timelines article. I pointed out it says "Timelines" on the box and still got ignored.

Edited by mignash, 06 January 2011 - 07:33 PM.


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Posted 06 January 2011 - 07:34 PM

Wait, they deleted Slag? Because of his name I assume?

Back to topic, we market our comics to comic fans. That is a big part of the Diamond release, to reach a broad base of comic and pop culture fans. By appearing on a comic book shelf, we are exposed to ALL comic fans and general fans of pop culture. The comic does not appear exclusively on Transformers only websites. They appear at the newsstand as well...

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Posted 06 January 2011 - 07:40 PM

No they Deleted Slag because he was "not notable". I actually tried to use the contraversary over his name as proof of him being notable. I was ignored. There was a deletion attempt for Grimlock, but he survived. No one has attempted to delete the other Dinobots YET, but if Slag was not notable, how will Snarl and Sludge survive?

http://en.wikipedia...._(Transformers)

http://en.wikipedia....letion/Grimlock

Another one i tried to save was Blackarachnia. She got killed a while back.

Edited by mignash, 06 January 2011 - 07:48 PM.


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Posted 06 January 2011 - 07:54 PM

QUOTE(mignash @ Jan 6 2011, 04:40 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
No they Deleted Slag because he was "not notable". I actually tried to use the contraversary over his name as proof of him being notable. I was ignored. There was a deletion attempt for Grimlock, but he survived. No one has attempted to delete the other Dinobots YET, but if Slag was not notable, how will Snarl and Sludge survive?

http://en.wikipedia...._(Transformers)

http://en.wikipedia....letion/Grimlock

Another one i tried to save was Blackarachnia. She got killed a while back.

One thing that needs to be recognized. Wikipedia is a generic encyclopedia. To non-Transformers fans, is a character like Slag notable? I'm not going to say that it's not, but I can easily see why most character-specific entries are being considered "not notable enough" for such a generic site.

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Posted 06 January 2011 - 07:59 PM

Wait what's the point of Wiki if not a good scorce of information about stuff that's includes all chactors and information protaining to thim if key chactors get deleted then the information is croupted there for no good to anyone

I think if there going to have that then I think you should serch wiki for Transformers and it should link to the TFwiki

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Posted 06 January 2011 - 08:00 PM

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Posted 06 January 2011 - 08:08 PM

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?comment - Really, are they distributed through general comic book retail? My search on Amazon.com didn't find any f them on retail, only user-generated sales of the comics. NotARealWord (talk) 17:32, 30 November 2010 (UTC)


That guy's just ignorant of how comics are distributed. Would Previews qualify as an independent source? I can't speak to whether an individual Transformers franchise merits its own page, but there is a lot of information about Timelines that definitely belongs on Wikipedia.

QUOTE([email protected] @ Jan 6 2011, 07:34 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Wait, they deleted Slag? Because of his name I assume?


Eh, he's a minor character from a media franchise. I love him, but it's true. It sucks that the Timelines info is getting caught in the crossfire, but there's a good reason why so many other TF pages are being purged; there are far too many of them for a general knowledge wiki.

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I liked it wordy. That was a plus for me. Better than comic that can be read in 60 seconds.

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To which I would be told that "fan blogs" are not notable sources on wikipedia.

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Posted 06 January 2011 - 08:52 PM

QUOTE(Chip @ Jan 6 2011, 08:08 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Eh, he's a minor character from a media franchise. I love him, but it's true. It sucks that the Timelines info is getting caught in the crossfire, but there's a good reason why so many other TF pages are being purged; there are far too many of them for a general knowledge wiki.


That's pretty much how I see it so I don't find it unlikely that the general non-TF-loving public might as well.

The Transformers universe is so diverse and so long-lived that it would probably be impossible - or at least impractical - to have an article devoted to every character on Wikipedia let alone every fictional appearance. "Key" characters like Optimus Prime and Megatron could easily be argued to be deserving of their own pages but Wikipedia would probably prefer they be listed on a page about their own respective factions.

There really isn't a reason to have such well-developed articles about individual Transformers on Wikipedia when TFWiki exists. The general public might not know it exists but then they probably don't care enough about the subject to delve any deeper.

The way I see it TFWiki is the Unabridged Oxford-English Dictionary of Transformers whereas Wikipedia is maybe a line or two in a Pocket Webster Dictionary. Some people are going to be content with the quick-and-dirty version while others will not.

There really isn't any comparison and there's probably no point in trying to mirror the information on that level.

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