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@  Pennpenn : (17 October 2018 - 07:33 AM)

I was at work when it happened I guess.

@  Paladin : (17 October 2018 - 07:18 AM)

disappeared completely up its own asshole.

@  Pennpenn : (17 October 2018 - 02:14 AM)

Youtube was gone?

@  Tm_Silverclaw : (16 October 2018 - 11:53 PM)

I actually agree with you MEDdMI, or at least be creative. x.x

@  MEDdMI : (16 October 2018 - 11:29 PM)

Death threats are boring. Get to know the person, then torment them with stuff that really gets under their skin. *evil grin*

@  SHIELD Agent 47 : (16 October 2018 - 10:18 PM)

YouTube is back!

@  Waspinator : (16 October 2018 - 09:55 PM)

Remind yourself that overconfidence is a slow and insidious killer.

@  RichardT1977 : (16 October 2018 - 09:27 PM)

BTW for the three of you who haven't discovered yet, YouTube is down.

@  Telly : (16 October 2018 - 08:05 PM)

maybe this is that persons first death threat, and the creativity will come with more experiance

@  Tm_Silverclaw : (16 October 2018 - 06:14 PM)

Nah. Or at least not near as creative as some of them I've got. This one was a basic "If I ever see you IRL I'll slit you're throat."

@  wonko the sane? : (16 October 2018 - 06:00 PM)

was it at least a creative threat?

@  Tm_Silverclaw : (16 October 2018 - 01:07 PM)

Speaking of which.. Got a deaththeat today on an other messageboard. :D

@  Shockwave 75 : (16 October 2018 - 07:14 AM)

Arguing with an idiot is like playing chess with a pidgeon; no matter what you do it's going to shit on the board and strut around like it won.

@  Pennpenn : (16 October 2018 - 05:48 AM)

Well, there is also the fact that the person you're arguing against won't accept the authority as neutral (or valid or credible) unless they agree with everything that person says.

@  TheMightyMol... : (16 October 2018 - 05:35 AM)

Never argue with idiots. They'll drag you down to their level and beat you with experience.

@  Nevermore : (16 October 2018 - 05:21 AM)

Anyone who's ever argued with dumbasses on the internet knows how stubborn and persistent they can be. Dozens of people can tell them they're wrong, and they' just stick their fingers in their ears and go "na na can't hear you!"

@  Nevermore : (16 October 2018 - 05:19 AM)

Especially if its a bet about an objective truth. Chances are, you provide overwhelming evidence for your position, the dumbass won't accept your evidence or will just change the rules and then claim the money you allegedly owe him.

@  Nevermore : (16 October 2018 - 05:17 AM)

I've just been reminded of a life lesson: Never take a bet with a dumbass unless there's a neutral authority accepted by both sides that will decide on the winner.

@  TheMightyMol... : (16 October 2018 - 03:42 AM)

Peace was never an option.

@  Waspinator : (16 October 2018 - 02:03 AM)

The war between the cerapods and the theropods continues to the modern era

@  Waspinator : (15 October 2018 - 11:51 PM)

The parrot, once I stopped pressing the button on the toy. It might have gone on forever otherwise.

@  Foffy : (15 October 2018 - 11:43 PM)

Depends. Who won?

@  Waspinator : (15 October 2018 - 11:37 PM)

Should I be worried that my 40-year-old parrot got into a roaring contest with a Jurassic World toy?

@  Paladin : (15 October 2018 - 04:38 PM)

was the bride's name Sarah Connor?

@  TheMightyMol... : (15 October 2018 - 04:38 PM)

A sawed off shotgun is fairly easy to conceal. Of course, they're also illegal.

@  NotVeryKnightly : (15 October 2018 - 04:19 PM)

Maybe they wear a really, really baggy coat.

@  wonko the sane? : (15 October 2018 - 04:10 PM)

I don't wanna think about the body type where a SHOTGUN is concealed carry.

@  MEDdMI : (15 October 2018 - 04:08 PM)

"If there any objections-" *Both sides pull out ridiculous amounts of weapons against each other*

@  SHIELD Agent 47 : (15 October 2018 - 03:57 PM)

Someone else quips in the comments, "I have heard of a shotgun wedding, but this is ridiculous!"

@  SHIELD Agent 47 : (15 October 2018 - 03:57 PM)

I saw a random shipost on Facebook. Evidently, there are people in the U.S. who have to ask wedding guests not to bring their concealed-carry weapons.

@  Tm_Silverclaw : (15 October 2018 - 07:09 AM)

Hey.. I tried to say that google game streaming actually works pretty good... Now if that's depressing, that's a WHOLE nother ball of wax. ;D

@  wonko the sane? : (15 October 2018 - 06:29 AM)

The box is being used exactly as it was meant to: for random conversation. If it's depressing it's because the group whom use it is neither oblivious or stupid and we happen to be discussing depressing things.

@  fourteenwings : (15 October 2018 - 12:27 AM)

I'm starting to feel like the box is being used in lieu of actual serious threads (not to be terrible but seeing this as soon as you get on the forums is depressing).

@  SHIELD Agent 47 : (14 October 2018 - 10:35 PM)

It's shameful that randos in richer countries pretend like it's not happening.

@  SHIELD Agent 47 : (14 October 2018 - 10:35 PM)

Small island countries are already sinking below sea level and being consumed by the ocean.

@  TM2-Megatron : (14 October 2018 - 10:28 PM)

Which is why poorer countries are some of the ones most worried at this point, I imagine. Wealthy countries like the US, Canada, etc won't feel the effects nearly as soon

@  wonko the sane? : (14 October 2018 - 10:05 PM)

Realistically: there doesn't have to be truly catastrophic impacts to screw us all over. Frequent enough storms will disrupt our infrastructure, which will hobble our ability to rebuild quickly and cause pretty big backslides in quality of life. I don't mean "oh no, I can't charge my iphone", more like "dysentery is as common as the flu because the resources just aren't there to clean the water anymore".

@  TM2-Megatron : (14 October 2018 - 10:03 PM)

If no, then procrastinate some more

@  TM2-Megatron : (14 October 2018 - 10:03 PM)

Well, the most important question: is it going to stop me getting some drive thru at McDonald's?

@  Noideaforaname : (14 October 2018 - 09:21 PM)

It's kinda nuts seeing insurance ads tell everyone multiple 500-year storms a year is the new normal, but the general attitude over is still at best *shrug*.

@  Tm_Silverclaw : (14 October 2018 - 08:18 PM)

Sad thing is... Boomers are still leaving their vile taint on a lot of the younger generation.

@  TM2-Megatron : (14 October 2018 - 08:08 PM)

Certainly the boomers won't live to see it, and they're the worst generation for not giving a shit

@  TM2-Megatron : (14 October 2018 - 08:08 PM)

We're seeing some of it, yeah, but very likely all the truly catastrophic impacts will hit once most of us are dead

@  wonko the sane? : (14 October 2018 - 07:46 PM)

Stupid thing is: We ARE seeing results in our lifetime, but it's still slow enough that we, as a culture, are willing to ignore it despite what the scientists are saying.

@  MEDdMI : (14 October 2018 - 07:41 PM)

Captain Planet we need you

@  TM2-Megatron : (14 October 2018 - 07:30 PM)

As long as nothing interrupts their morning latte and consumer-driven lifestyles, they're good

@  TM2-Megatron : (14 October 2018 - 07:26 PM)

Because humans are notoriously bad at caring about things they don't see happening within their lifetimes

@  Shrug : (14 October 2018 - 06:09 PM)

And no one else in my class cared. None of my teachers cared. My parents didn't care.

@  Shrug : (14 October 2018 - 06:08 PM)

One of my more frustrating memories regarding Climate Change is from when I was in 2nd grade in 1996. My poor redneck middle-of-nowhere school had a decade old science textbook written so a 2nd grader could read it and it had enough about the impending Global Warming that I was worried as a 6 year old.

@  wonko the sane? : (14 October 2018 - 04:45 PM)

Plus a MUCH higher chance of lake effect snow: since milder means the great lakes will take that much longer to freeze over.


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The He-Man and the Masters of the Universe Thread


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#1 LBD "Nytetrayn"

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Posted 20 December 2010 - 03:19 PM

Since the closest thing I could find (even with a search) to a He-Man thread is the clearly-labeled "toy" thread, I figured it would be safe enough to start a thread dedicated less to MattyCollector and its shipping, subscription, and storefront shenanigans, and more to the lore behind the destined wielder of the Sword of He.

Even without a currently-running cartoon or comic book series, one at least has to hand it to Mattel for keeping the fiction going with the bios included on the back of the Classics packaging, even if some of it is a bit vague on some things at times. And as a fan of legacy heroes, I enjoy seeing the whole backstory of Eternia filled out with King Grayskull (of Awesome) and other wielders of that magic sword.

I'm perhaps just as interested in seeing how they will fit New Adventures of He-Man in, especially as I've just begun watching the DVDs. Toy-wise, I know they seem hellbent on representing the originals first and foremost, much to my chagrin, but I kind of wonder if we'll ever get the Bill Rizer-looking version seen in that toyline... or if they would instead create some bizarre amalgamation of the two.

On a related note, were the different appearances of everything ever explained in any sort of fiction, writer's bible, or other context? Or was it simply a "time passed, this is how Eternia and everyone looked when this new adventure started" kind of thing?

Incidentally, given the talk of He-Man and the Masters becoming renegades against Hordak in the Classics bios, I think that the NA look would make a neat appearance for He-Man in that context. On the other hand, I have no idea how the different-looking sword would be explained.

And speaking of time passing on Eternia, the whole story for New Adventures cites He-Man and Skeletor going to the future, to a world called Primus. This always struck me as just a little... odd. I mean, is Primus what Eternia becomes in the far future? Otherwise, what's with the future angle at all?

So, those are just my initial thoughts here, and hopefully enough to kick-start the thread.

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Posted 20 December 2010 - 03:26 PM

It is an interesting story they're telling. I don't know if I like it how there was always a "He-Man" as it were. That each hero of the time was regulated to such, with the one true He-Man being the He-Man.

Also regarding New Adventures, Optikk's bio sheds some light on how it fits with the new storyline.

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A Space Mutant spy from the foggy polar region of the planet Denebria?, the spyeye eyeball of Optikk? is specially adapted to see through the dense Denebrain fog of his homeworld, making him an ideal spy. He carries a Photon Neutralizer, which has made him one of the most feared of the Space Mutants in the Tri-Solar System. Optikk? allied himself with Skeletor? shortly after the Lord of Destruction? defeated Hordak? and turned his ambition to the Horde Empire, forming a coalition of mutants and outcasts to conquer the universe. Optikk? serves Skeletor? by keeping an eye on He-Man? and all of the Galactic Protectors of the planet Primus.


So it doesn't appear in this story they go to the future, it's just Skeletor gets more warriors from Denebria in order to conquer the world.



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Posted 20 December 2010 - 05:22 PM

Given the fact that He-Man is a legacy hero as of classics, the "NA He-Man" could actually be the "actual" He-Man's successor, or a trainee protecting a different world.

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Posted 20 December 2010 - 05:38 PM

Could be...


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Posted 20 December 2010 - 08:49 PM

That's an interesting idea...

...though I don't know how his Adam identity would fit with that, unless his son was Adam, Jr...

And Optikk sure is an odd choice for the first NA figure, isn't he? One would sooner expect Flogg or Sludgehead...

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Posted 20 December 2010 - 10:10 PM

Not to mention that Marlena and Randor finally discovered that Adam was He-Man in "New Adventures" so I don't see how that theory works, it's interesting and i suppose if you wanted you could retcon that into your own personal continuity if you wanted.

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Posted 20 December 2010 - 10:13 PM

I think what turned me off most in He-Man fiction was the 2000 series episode where Adam was taught that "He-Man would always be needed", thus forcing him to accept that he couldn't be allowed to prove himself, and just rely on someone else's power and identity to be a hero.

What a great lesson to teach kids.

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Posted 20 December 2010 - 10:23 PM

QUOTE(DarkDestroyer @ Dec 20 2010, 10:10 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Not to mention that Marlena and Randor finally discovered that Adam was He-Man in "New Adventures" so I don't see how that theory works, it's interesting and i suppose if you wanted you could retcon that into your own personal continuity if you wanted.

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Randor goes missing before then too, and nothing is stated he returns safely. The 2002 comics were going to have Faker kill Randor disguised as He-Man. This may play into the new storyline (or something similar) too.

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Posted 21 December 2010 - 02:51 PM

QUOTE(DarkDestroyer @ Dec 21 2010, 04:10 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Not to mention that Marlena and Randor finally discovered that Adam was He-Man in "New Adventures" so I don't see how that theory works, it's interesting and i suppose if you wanted you could retcon that into your own personal continuity if you wanted.

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We don't have a NA He-Man bio for Classics yet, do we? This stuff is being re-written, anyway. Sure, they try to incorporate a bit of everything, but it's still a full re-write.



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Posted 21 December 2010 - 07:04 PM

QUOTE(Powered Convoy @ Dec 20 2010, 03:26 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Also regarding New Adventures, Optikk's bio sheds some light on how it fits with the new storyline.

So it doesn't appear in this story they go to the future, it's just Skeletor gets more warriors from Denebria in order to conquer the world.


Aside from this, is there any word on how things fit in the old storyline? Namely the Primus-Eternia connection, if any?

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Posted 21 December 2010 - 08:24 PM

Not yet that I know of.


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Posted 23 December 2010 - 01:42 AM

I've never cared for He-man, old or new. Recently though I've been rewatching Filmation's top four cartoons of the 80's (He-Man, She-Ra, Bravestarr, and Ghostbusters) on the Qubo channel. My opinions on He-man hasn't changed, but I'm surprised to find out how much I really enjoy She-Ra's series (And the other two as well) without any real nostalgia. I think it's because She-ra's enemies are more interesting. You've got her fighting to free a planet from the Horde Empire, and Hordak who feels more competent then Skeletor, rather then trying to defend a single piece of real estate from group dressed in bad Halloween costumes. And all this makes me rather disappointed that the 2002 series never got to the Horde, as might have actually made the series interesting.

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Posted 23 December 2010 - 01:53 AM

I like each continuity for different reasons.

Teela, Teela, Teela and Teela

WHAT???

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Posted 23 December 2010 - 02:50 AM

QUOTE(Destron D-69 @ Dec 23 2010, 01:53 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I like each continuity for different reasons.

Teela, Teela, Teela and Teela

WHAT???


I think I preferred Teela as a blonde.

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Posted 23 December 2010 - 04:30 AM

good journey Teela? Nah they can keep her... until I gets my MotUC Golden Langellator

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Posted 23 December 2010 - 04:40 PM

I have to admit that I had a thing for Chelsea Noble as movie Teela and would buy a figure of her. When i was a kid had a and still do have a crush on Filmatation Teela. Hmmmm..

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Posted 23 December 2010 - 06:04 PM

I don't recall watching the He-Man cartoon at all, but later in life I learned J. Michael Straczynski wrote for it and She-Ra. Now I'm really tempted to watch it. Good idea, or no? I tried to watch Thundercats (another one I never watched as akid), a couple years ago and thought it was awful.

And Prince Adam's mother was human, right? She was an astronaut who was warped into Eternia's dimension?
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Posted 23 December 2010 - 06:10 PM

QUOTE(Nanite @ Dec 23 2010, 06:04 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I don't recall watching the He-Man cartoon at all, but later in life I learned J. Michael Straczynski wrote for it and She-Ra. Now I'm really tempted to watch it. Good idea, or no? I tried to watch Thundercats (another one I never watched as akid), a couple years ago and thought it was awful.

And Prince Adam's mother was human, right? She was an astronaut who was warped into Eternia's dimension?


I say try it. If you get the Qubo channel, they air on their 'Night Owl' block with other old cartoons, as I mentioned. I went in with little memories or nostalgia for them, except He-Man, and I rather enjoyed them. They are campy, silly, and occasionally a bit stupid, but they are also fun to watch.

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Posted 24 December 2010 - 03:11 AM

She-Ra's show was more memorable as the characters were interesting, it was more cohesive and the episodes when He-Man came to visit were always a treat. The original He-Man cartoon felt more like "threat of the week".

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Posted 24 December 2010 - 06:08 AM

QUOTE(Nanite @ Dec 23 2010, 06:04 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
And Prince Adam's mother was human, right? She was an astronaut who was warped into Eternia's dimension?


Well, many Eternians were human but yes - Marlena was from Earth.
Apparently, Tri-Klops, Beastman, and Evil-Lynn were supposed to be from Earth too according to the original series bible.

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