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@  SHIELD Agent 47 : (19 August 2018 - 08:40 PM)

I saw him on The Trek BBS some months before he hit the Allspark.

@  Nevermore : (19 August 2018 - 05:47 PM)

He was considered an annoying pest even back then.

@  Nevermore : (19 August 2018 - 05:47 PM)

I finally managed to dig up some of Jason Irelan's earliest posts, at the Alvaro Comicboards Transformers forum. Dating back to 2003.

@  Nevermore : (19 August 2018 - 12:43 PM)

The best thing is that repeatedly buying the same cabinet means an increasing routine in assembling the things.

@  wonko the sane? : (19 August 2018 - 10:39 AM)

Welp, beats me. I got four shelves.

@  Nevermore : (19 August 2018 - 08:38 AM)

Finally I can showcase my collection in an appropriate manner.

@  Nevermore : (19 August 2018 - 08:38 AM)

I bought thirteen display cabinets for my new apartment from Ikea.

@  RichardT1977 : (19 August 2018 - 12:42 AM)

*groan*...

@  PlutoniumBoss : (18 August 2018 - 11:43 PM)

Well don't hang up on us, tel us abaud it!

@  Cybersnark : (18 August 2018 - 04:25 PM)

I'm back with a new modem!

@  wonko the sane? : (18 August 2018 - 03:58 PM)

And I just managed to clean out my bed drawers, so I can move on to the next step when I'm ready.

@  wonko the sane? : (18 August 2018 - 03:45 PM)

I doubt I set any records, but now my cat can't jump on my PC and hit the power button or reset button, so... improvement.

@  RichardT1977 : (18 August 2018 - 02:28 PM)

Back in St. Olaf they used to have IKEA building contests...

@  Paladin : (18 August 2018 - 11:44 AM)

enjoy yur affordable Svedish crap.

@  wonko the sane? : (18 August 2018 - 11:33 AM)

Ikea is dangerous. I bought a new desk and a bed frame...

@  ▲ndrusi : (18 August 2018 - 11:19 AM)

Var.

@  Nevermore : (18 August 2018 - 06:19 AM)

Oh, and there's also a few percent extra wage for every overtime hour on top of that.

@  Nevermore : (18 August 2018 - 06:19 AM)

Some people just work an hour extra every day and then request a day off when they have collected enough hours.

@  Nevermore : (18 August 2018 - 06:18 AM)

Come in on your day off? Work an hour extra on a normal working day? Counts. What you do with your overtime doesn't matter just as long as you worked overtime in the first place.

@  Nevermore : (18 August 2018 - 06:18 AM)

Anything goes - filing a request for financial compensation for your overtime, getting them compensated by spare time either in full "stay at home" days or "go home early" days (always with permission by your superior), it doesn't matter. What matters is that you worked longer than your contract and your official shift plan require you on any given day.

@  Nevermore : (18 August 2018 - 06:16 AM)

Now the important thing here is that overtime is clocked daily, so if you work an hour extra (all overtime prior to the Christmas peak season is voluntary) and then immediately work an hour less on the following day (assuming you got your superior's permission), you may have a net zero on your overtime account but still scored one hour for the premium regardless.

@  Nevermore : (18 August 2018 - 06:14 AM)

In other news, I unlocked an achievement at work: There is an agreement between the works council and the employer which states that anyone who works 55 overtime hours this year between January and the end of September gets a premium in October.

@  Nevermore : (18 August 2018 - 06:12 AM)

Of course, the idiots keep bringing up the fact that DC used it "first", despite us telling them over and over again that who was "first" is completely irrelevant in trademarks.

@  Nevermore : (18 August 2018 - 06:10 AM)

Actually they just settled.

@  Tm_Silverclaw : (18 August 2018 - 05:03 AM)

Sounds like Hasbro should win it easily.. They'be been using it constantly for years, so even if DC did have it, they haven't been using and defending their trademark.

@  Nevermore : (18 August 2018 - 04:54 AM)

Well, haven't in a long time, that is.

@  Nevermore : (18 August 2018 - 04:54 AM)

And there haven't been any toys based on DC's Teen Titans Bumblebee character until recently.

@  Nevermore : (18 August 2018 - 04:54 AM)

Because Hasbro is selling toys.

@  Nevermore : (18 August 2018 - 04:54 AM)

The trademark dispute was specifically about toys.

@  Pennpenn : (18 August 2018 - 04:50 AM)

Thought to be fair I didn't even know Hasbro and DC were having a trademark dispute. I thought that was something that would have been settled years ago (and DC wouldn't be doing much with their Bumblebee at the moment given Marvel's using Wasp at the moment)

@  Pennpenn : (18 August 2018 - 04:37 AM)

It sounds like the kind of person isn't going to be deflected by petty concerns like "reason" or "facts".

@  Nevermore : (18 August 2018 - 04:18 AM)

I told him repeatedly that the insects are completely irrelevant because THEY ARE NOT IN THE BUSINESS OF SELLING TOYS (or ANY business at all, for that matter).

@  Pennpenn : (18 August 2018 - 04:08 AM)

Even if he meant that the word "bumblebee" has been used to describe a particular type of insect (which is a much more coherent statement) it's still wrong.

@  Nevermore : (18 August 2018 - 03:40 AM)

Claiming that Hasbro's trademark has always been for "Autobot Bumblebee" (a quick look at any toy packaging in the past 12 years proves this wrong), Apple the computer company has never held a trademark for "Apple", only for "Apple Computers" (the USPTO database proves this wrong), you cannot trademark common words (the USPTO database proves this wrong), the insects have been using the name "Bumblebee" for thousands of years (insects don't speak English), and ARGHHHH.

@  Nevermore : (18 August 2018 - 03:38 AM)

Jesus, there's this moron at TFW2005 who has a history of exceptionally outrageous bulls*** claims who is making all sorts of provably false statements in the thread about the Hasbro/DC "Bumblebee" trademark dispute.

@  TM2-Megatron : (18 August 2018 - 12:06 AM)

If you stop for gas/directions shortly before getting there and the attendant is unusually creepy and/or inbred, turn back

@  Noideaforaname : (17 August 2018 - 09:49 PM)

Booked a cheap cabin in the stormy mountains filled with alcohol. This is either a great find or the start of a horror film.

@  RichardT1977 : (17 August 2018 - 06:55 PM)

I loved those commercials...

@  Patch : (17 August 2018 - 06:14 PM)

Paladin drank Bud Ice once in the 90s, and the penguins have been after him ever since.

@  TheMightyMol... : (17 August 2018 - 01:44 PM)

You weren't using it anyway.

@  Paladin : (17 August 2018 - 12:11 PM)

one by one the penguins steal my sanity...

@  Donocropolis : (17 August 2018 - 06:30 AM)

New band name: The Sabre Worf Hypothesis

@  wonko the sane? : (16 August 2018 - 06:36 AM)

That never goes away. I still have little panic attacks when I see water where it's not supposed to be. I've lived through enough leaking roofs, broken pipes and floods to know it could be a very bad sign.

@  SHIELD Agent 47 : (15 August 2018 - 09:20 PM)

Despite my parents explaining that to me when I was a kid, I still half-panic every time I see condensation dripping.

@  Shrug : (15 August 2018 - 08:23 PM)

Yup. If the water happens to be on the left or right of the vehicle, make sure to remember that. That way it's real easy to tell if it's something else dripping.

@  Nevermore : (15 August 2018 - 05:15 PM)

So I checked online and it appears... it's totally normal, that's apparently condensed water from the air conditioning.

@  Nevermore : (15 August 2018 - 05:14 PM)

Phew!" For a moment I thought I was in real trouble because when I arrived at home and drove my car into the garage, there was a trail of large wet spots.

@  wonko the sane? : (15 August 2018 - 08:01 AM)

The showerhead exploded off the pipe this morning. So yeah... think it's going to be a "great" day.

@  Donocropolis : (13 August 2018 - 09:44 PM)

Luckily, it was "Wheel Horse Lawnmower"

@  Donocropolis : (13 August 2018 - 09:44 PM)

I knew that my father was getting old when he finally posted a facebook status that was clearly a search term.


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The He-Man and the Masters of the Universe Thread


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#1 LBD "Nytetrayn"

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Posted 20 December 2010 - 03:19 PM

Since the closest thing I could find (even with a search) to a He-Man thread is the clearly-labeled "toy" thread, I figured it would be safe enough to start a thread dedicated less to MattyCollector and its shipping, subscription, and storefront shenanigans, and more to the lore behind the destined wielder of the Sword of He.

Even without a currently-running cartoon or comic book series, one at least has to hand it to Mattel for keeping the fiction going with the bios included on the back of the Classics packaging, even if some of it is a bit vague on some things at times. And as a fan of legacy heroes, I enjoy seeing the whole backstory of Eternia filled out with King Grayskull (of Awesome) and other wielders of that magic sword.

I'm perhaps just as interested in seeing how they will fit New Adventures of He-Man in, especially as I've just begun watching the DVDs. Toy-wise, I know they seem hellbent on representing the originals first and foremost, much to my chagrin, but I kind of wonder if we'll ever get the Bill Rizer-looking version seen in that toyline... or if they would instead create some bizarre amalgamation of the two.

On a related note, were the different appearances of everything ever explained in any sort of fiction, writer's bible, or other context? Or was it simply a "time passed, this is how Eternia and everyone looked when this new adventure started" kind of thing?

Incidentally, given the talk of He-Man and the Masters becoming renegades against Hordak in the Classics bios, I think that the NA look would make a neat appearance for He-Man in that context. On the other hand, I have no idea how the different-looking sword would be explained.

And speaking of time passing on Eternia, the whole story for New Adventures cites He-Man and Skeletor going to the future, to a world called Primus. This always struck me as just a little... odd. I mean, is Primus what Eternia becomes in the far future? Otherwise, what's with the future angle at all?

So, those are just my initial thoughts here, and hopefully enough to kick-start the thread.

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Posted 20 December 2010 - 03:26 PM

It is an interesting story they're telling. I don't know if I like it how there was always a "He-Man" as it were. That each hero of the time was regulated to such, with the one true He-Man being the He-Man.

Also regarding New Adventures, Optikk's bio sheds some light on how it fits with the new storyline.

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A Space Mutant spy from the foggy polar region of the planet Denebria?, the spyeye eyeball of Optikk? is specially adapted to see through the dense Denebrain fog of his homeworld, making him an ideal spy. He carries a Photon Neutralizer, which has made him one of the most feared of the Space Mutants in the Tri-Solar System. Optikk? allied himself with Skeletor? shortly after the Lord of Destruction? defeated Hordak? and turned his ambition to the Horde Empire, forming a coalition of mutants and outcasts to conquer the universe. Optikk? serves Skeletor? by keeping an eye on He-Man? and all of the Galactic Protectors of the planet Primus.


So it doesn't appear in this story they go to the future, it's just Skeletor gets more warriors from Denebria in order to conquer the world.



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Posted 20 December 2010 - 05:22 PM

Given the fact that He-Man is a legacy hero as of classics, the "NA He-Man" could actually be the "actual" He-Man's successor, or a trainee protecting a different world.

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Posted 20 December 2010 - 05:38 PM

Could be...


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Posted 20 December 2010 - 08:49 PM

That's an interesting idea...

...though I don't know how his Adam identity would fit with that, unless his son was Adam, Jr...

And Optikk sure is an odd choice for the first NA figure, isn't he? One would sooner expect Flogg or Sludgehead...

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Posted 20 December 2010 - 10:10 PM

Not to mention that Marlena and Randor finally discovered that Adam was He-Man in "New Adventures" so I don't see how that theory works, it's interesting and i suppose if you wanted you could retcon that into your own personal continuity if you wanted.

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Posted 20 December 2010 - 10:13 PM

I think what turned me off most in He-Man fiction was the 2000 series episode where Adam was taught that "He-Man would always be needed", thus forcing him to accept that he couldn't be allowed to prove himself, and just rely on someone else's power and identity to be a hero.

What a great lesson to teach kids.

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Posted 20 December 2010 - 10:23 PM

QUOTE(DarkDestroyer @ Dec 20 2010, 10:10 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Not to mention that Marlena and Randor finally discovered that Adam was He-Man in "New Adventures" so I don't see how that theory works, it's interesting and i suppose if you wanted you could retcon that into your own personal continuity if you wanted.

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Randor goes missing before then too, and nothing is stated he returns safely. The 2002 comics were going to have Faker kill Randor disguised as He-Man. This may play into the new storyline (or something similar) too.

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Posted 21 December 2010 - 02:51 PM

QUOTE(DarkDestroyer @ Dec 21 2010, 04:10 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Not to mention that Marlena and Randor finally discovered that Adam was He-Man in "New Adventures" so I don't see how that theory works, it's interesting and i suppose if you wanted you could retcon that into your own personal continuity if you wanted.

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We don't have a NA He-Man bio for Classics yet, do we? This stuff is being re-written, anyway. Sure, they try to incorporate a bit of everything, but it's still a full re-write.



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Posted 21 December 2010 - 07:04 PM

QUOTE(Powered Convoy @ Dec 20 2010, 03:26 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Also regarding New Adventures, Optikk's bio sheds some light on how it fits with the new storyline.

So it doesn't appear in this story they go to the future, it's just Skeletor gets more warriors from Denebria in order to conquer the world.


Aside from this, is there any word on how things fit in the old storyline? Namely the Primus-Eternia connection, if any?

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Posted 21 December 2010 - 08:24 PM

Not yet that I know of.


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Posted 23 December 2010 - 01:42 AM

I've never cared for He-man, old or new. Recently though I've been rewatching Filmation's top four cartoons of the 80's (He-Man, She-Ra, Bravestarr, and Ghostbusters) on the Qubo channel. My opinions on He-man hasn't changed, but I'm surprised to find out how much I really enjoy She-Ra's series (And the other two as well) without any real nostalgia. I think it's because She-ra's enemies are more interesting. You've got her fighting to free a planet from the Horde Empire, and Hordak who feels more competent then Skeletor, rather then trying to defend a single piece of real estate from group dressed in bad Halloween costumes. And all this makes me rather disappointed that the 2002 series never got to the Horde, as might have actually made the series interesting.

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Posted 23 December 2010 - 01:53 AM

I like each continuity for different reasons.

Teela, Teela, Teela and Teela

WHAT???

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Posted 23 December 2010 - 02:50 AM

QUOTE(Destron D-69 @ Dec 23 2010, 01:53 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I like each continuity for different reasons.

Teela, Teela, Teela and Teela

WHAT???


I think I preferred Teela as a blonde.

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Posted 23 December 2010 - 04:30 AM

good journey Teela? Nah they can keep her... until I gets my MotUC Golden Langellator

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Posted 23 December 2010 - 04:40 PM

I have to admit that I had a thing for Chelsea Noble as movie Teela and would buy a figure of her. When i was a kid had a and still do have a crush on Filmatation Teela. Hmmmm..

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Posted 23 December 2010 - 06:04 PM

I don't recall watching the He-Man cartoon at all, but later in life I learned J. Michael Straczynski wrote for it and She-Ra. Now I'm really tempted to watch it. Good idea, or no? I tried to watch Thundercats (another one I never watched as akid), a couple years ago and thought it was awful.

And Prince Adam's mother was human, right? She was an astronaut who was warped into Eternia's dimension?
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Posted 23 December 2010 - 06:10 PM

QUOTE(Nanite @ Dec 23 2010, 06:04 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I don't recall watching the He-Man cartoon at all, but later in life I learned J. Michael Straczynski wrote for it and She-Ra. Now I'm really tempted to watch it. Good idea, or no? I tried to watch Thundercats (another one I never watched as akid), a couple years ago and thought it was awful.

And Prince Adam's mother was human, right? She was an astronaut who was warped into Eternia's dimension?


I say try it. If you get the Qubo channel, they air on their 'Night Owl' block with other old cartoons, as I mentioned. I went in with little memories or nostalgia for them, except He-Man, and I rather enjoyed them. They are campy, silly, and occasionally a bit stupid, but they are also fun to watch.

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Posted 24 December 2010 - 03:11 AM

She-Ra's show was more memorable as the characters were interesting, it was more cohesive and the episodes when He-Man came to visit were always a treat. The original He-Man cartoon felt more like "threat of the week".

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Posted 24 December 2010 - 06:08 AM

QUOTE(Nanite @ Dec 23 2010, 06:04 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
And Prince Adam's mother was human, right? She was an astronaut who was warped into Eternia's dimension?


Well, many Eternians were human but yes - Marlena was from Earth.
Apparently, Tri-Klops, Beastman, and Evil-Lynn were supposed to be from Earth too according to the original series bible.

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