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@  Nevermore : (10 August 2020 - 06:48 PM)

Even worse when I can produce those verifiable facts at a later point, and then the other person simply claims the argument was the other way round (as in, I was actually arguing their position and vice versa).

@  Nevermore : (10 August 2020 - 06:47 PM)

I can argue with people about my versus their memory of events when verifiable facts are not readily available, though, and I get really annoyed when I'm capable of presenting a precise, step-by-step summary with multiple key points that can be used for future verification, and the other person just goes "nope, wrong" without going into detail.

@  Nevermore : (10 August 2020 - 06:45 PM)

I forget things, and I misremember things. But when presented with verifiable facts, my reaction is more like "Huh, could have sworn it was like that", not "this reality is not my own".

@  Nevermore : (10 August 2020 - 06:43 PM)

I have an extremely good memory (which I have proven time and again), and even I can be mistaken.

@  NotVeryKnightly : (10 August 2020 - 06:40 PM)

Might be worth pointing out that it only became "Mandela Effect" and not just "I remembered this wrong" when a conspiracy theorist insisted it was proof of alternate timelines.

@  Otaku : (10 August 2020 - 06:29 PM)

Incorrectly remembering Nelson Mandela's fate may be uniquely American... but is it really that strange to get South African political history wrong when you're no where near South Africa?

@  Otaku : (10 August 2020 - 06:29 PM)

I always assumed the Mandela Effect was a "human thing", not an American thing.

@  wonko the sane? : (10 August 2020 - 02:03 PM)

Then there are people who outright manufacture memories for whatever reason.

@  PlutoniumBoss : (10 August 2020 - 01:13 PM)

The human brain is so flaky that it is extremely unlikely that a given person does NOT have any false memories.

@  OverDrive73 : (10 August 2020 - 01:05 PM)

Perhaps it's simple word association the movie Sinbad and then our minds apply the same memories to a man named Sinbad.

@  OverDrive73 : (10 August 2020 - 01:04 PM)

The Mandela Effect is the same as people remembering Sinbad in a movie where he played a genie... Of which he never did.

@  MidnightFox : (10 August 2020 - 09:36 AM)

People that believe Mandela Effect things would rather come up with any number of reasons as to why their version doesn't have any actual evidence(like alternate timelines collapsing into our own) than just admit they remembered something wrong

@  MidnightFox : (10 August 2020 - 09:35 AM)

Sort of. It's more that when presented with a verifiable fact, they double down because it's what they believe instead of changing their minds

@  ▲ndrusi : (10 August 2020 - 09:25 AM)

"I could have sworn that ______."

@  ▲ndrusi : (10 August 2020 - 09:25 AM)

I'm not arguing with either of those two statements, but they're not really connected. Mandela Effect is, to oversimplify, people being widely mistaken about what they think *is* a verifiable fact. Nothing to do with opinions.

@  MidnightFox : (10 August 2020 - 08:52 AM)

Pretty sure the Mandela Effect in general is an American thing. Opinion > Verifiable Facts is sadly a pretty American thing

@  Nevermore : (10 August 2020 - 04:27 AM)

Ask these people how Apartheid ended according to their recollection, and I'm sure they'll draw a blank.

@  Nevermore : (10 August 2020 - 04:25 AM)

You got two black anti-Apartheid activists who were imprisoned by the oppressive regime. One died, the other was Nelson Mandela. It's not a far stretch that Americans who don't know many details about the history of other countries would mix up the two.

@  Nevermore : (10 August 2020 - 04:24 AM)

My own theory is that these people are simply mixing up Nelson Mandela and Steve Biko, another South African anti-Apartheid activist, who did indeed die in police custody in 1977. There was an Oscar-nominated movie about his life starring Denzel Washington that came out in 1987, the same time frame these people claim remembering Mandela dying.

@  Nevermore : (10 August 2020 - 04:17 AM)

I met a few people from South Africa, and they either never heard of the phenomenon at all, or only know of it from the internet. Apparently, it's completely unknown in South Africa, and it might even be entirely limited to the United States.

@  Nevermore : (10 August 2020 - 04:16 AM)

So does anyone remember the "Mandela Effect"? I'm talking specifically about the original case where many people vividly remember Nelson Mandela dying in prison in the 1980s.

@  Tm_Silverclaw : (10 August 2020 - 03:16 AM)

Crisis of Corona.

@  TheMightyMol... : (09 August 2020 - 06:16 PM)

Which crisis crossover are we on now? I lost track.

@  Rycochet : (09 August 2020 - 05:18 PM)

Much of the past decade has been the part of the comic series where less than stellar authors have driven the series into the ground and the editors are getting ready to either do a big multi issue crossover, leading to a reboot.

@  Bass X0 : (09 August 2020 - 02:28 PM)

At this point I've just decided to consider 2020 "not canon."

@  TheMightyMol... : (09 August 2020 - 02:18 PM)

'member Pepperidge Farm?

@  Maximus Ambus : (09 August 2020 - 02:10 PM)

Before the 'member berries there was Pepperidge farm. Pepperidge farm remembers.

@  OverDrive73 : (09 August 2020 - 12:21 PM)

>>>Shameless Plug<<< FYI. posted the last part of Quest for Tires in Allspark Pictures

@  SG Roadbuster : (08 August 2020 - 01:53 PM)

@Nevermore yes.

@  Nevermore : (08 August 2020 - 09:11 AM)

Is $30 a good deal for Subscription Service Breakdown?

@  Trpodeca : (08 August 2020 - 06:24 AM)

Oh dear God no. Twitter has changed it's default layout to the terrible new one. Why waste so much space on the left?

@  Steevy Maximus : (07 August 2020 - 08:28 PM)

@Bass X0, yeah, the Joe comic got REALLY solid in the upper 20s to the Cobra Civil War. It's interesting to see how well the Joe comic has aged relative to the cartoon. Where as I feel the opposite is true of Transformers

@  -LittleAutob... : (07 August 2020 - 03:58 PM)

Its so fun watching past TF Conventions.

@  Bass X0 : (07 August 2020 - 02:20 PM)

I've been reading classic 80s G.I. Joe lately. Its still decent even though I don't have any nostalgia towards it.

@  Sabrblade : (07 August 2020 - 08:50 AM)

Think of it as Adam West Batman instead. ;)

@  wonko the sane? : (07 August 2020 - 07:49 AM)

That sounds more like the flash, or maybe booster gold than batman.

@  Sabrblade : (07 August 2020 - 12:27 AM)

They would get bored fighting each other and instead decide to take an epic cross-country road trip together.

@  RichardT1977 : (06 August 2020 - 08:57 PM)

What would happen if Batman were to fight Squirrel Girl?

@  PlutoniumBoss : (04 August 2020 - 09:03 PM)

Unless you count the Mask vs Lobo special, but that's less a duel and more a duet.

@  PlutoniumBoss : (04 August 2020 - 08:52 PM)

My favorite crossover fight was Thor vs Shazam/Captain Marvel. Early in the fight, Thor discovers that Billy Batson needs lightning to transform, and being a god of lightning he simply denies him that.

@  Sabrblade : (04 August 2020 - 08:46 PM)

Let's see a fight between Death Battle and Super Power Beat Down

@  TheMightyMol... : (04 August 2020 - 06:15 PM)

Which Lobo later claimed was because he was paid to take a dive. Yes, really.

@  TheMightyMol... : (04 August 2020 - 06:15 PM)

And then there's the times it's been decided by a fan vote, which is how we get things like Lobo (who can go toe-to-toe with Superman at full strength) losing to Wolverine.

@  Nevermore : (04 August 2020 - 05:49 PM)

And then there are the "but my favorite characater will totes win because I say so" people.

@  Nevermore : (04 August 2020 - 05:49 PM)

I mean, there are some people who really approach this from a somewhat reasonable standpoint, coming up with a plausible scenario and a setting that creates a fair environment that doesn't favor one character.

@  Nevermore : (04 August 2020 - 05:46 PM)

My favorite stupid "why would they even fight each other" question recently was about three versions of Optimus Prime (G1, Bayverse and Aligned).

@  Nevermore : (04 August 2020 - 05:45 PM)

Batman obviously can beat everyone. Even Galactus. He's Batman. He's so smart, he'll just throw a Batarang and hit the weak spot at Galactus's forehead, knocking him out instantaneously.

@  wonko the sane? : (04 August 2020 - 11:37 AM)

It's almost like all drama is just manufactured pissing contests to keep us all entertained and distracted. :p

@  Tm_Silverclaw : (04 August 2020 - 10:16 AM)

Or they could go White Ranger vs Scorpion route and have both win. ;P

@  ▲ndrusi : (04 August 2020 - 09:35 AM)

Besides, we all know the answer is nearly always "they fight to a standstill and then team up against a common enemy."


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#1301 LBD "Nytetrayn"

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Posted 19 April 2014 - 02:01 AM

I thought it was a big final battle thing? Can I at least get the gist? =(

 

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Posted 19 April 2014 - 06:29 AM

Several years have passed. Skeletor (now in his NA outfit) joins NA He-Man and She-Ra to take down Horde World. We are introduced to a bunch of the Create-a-Characters. Skeletor betrays He-Man and tried to steal the power of the aptly named "Temple of Power". They evolve into their Laser Light costumes. He-man defeats Skeletor. We get a few panels of King He-Man, Dare (his son) and the new Masters (Sir Laser-lot and Spector)-as well as Skeleteen, The Unnamed One, and the demon Keldor was merged with (his name escapes me). On the last page, we see three Zodacs standing over Keldor's grave talking about neutrality existing by evil living. They give way to a female Hordak who revives Skeletor (in a conveniently "New 52-ish" costume) with "For the Honor of Grayskull", indicating she is She-Ra.

 

It's kind of a mess.


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Posted 19 April 2014 - 07:37 AM

Agreed.  Keldor's demon that when merged formed Skeletor's name is Demo-Man.


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Posted 19 April 2014 - 09:52 AM

It's a hot mess because ToyGuru insists on writing the bios/comics.  Say what you will about his marketing "prowess," but the guy is absolutely shit as a writer.



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Posted 19 April 2014 - 02:10 PM

Ok, I know Dare is He-Ro but who is Skeleteen- Skeletor's son? And what's this about She-Ra being a female Hordak???

Are their bios up yet?

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Posted 19 April 2014 - 03:22 PM

I think they were tying it in to the DC Comics deal with She-Ra first appearing in a Hordak like outfit complete with mask.


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Posted 19 April 2014 - 06:04 PM

Yeah, it's the Despara costume.  Most have concluded that since She-Ra effectively usurped power from the Horde Empire, she adopted the Despara costume to make there seem to be some sort of continuing legacy in its rule.

 

Honestly, it's another great example of inexplicably shit writing.

 

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Posted 19 April 2014 - 08:45 PM

Ah. Didn't care for Adora's short-haired "Despara" look. So who's Skeleteen?


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Posted 19 April 2014 - 08:57 PM

Evil-Lyn and Skeletor's son.



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Posted 20 April 2014 - 04:41 AM

Several years have passed. Skeletor (now in his NA outfit) joins NA He-Man and She-Ra to take down Horde World. We are introduced to a bunch of the Create-a-Characters. Skeletor betrays He-Man and tried to steal the power of the aptly named "Temple of Power". They evolve into their Laser Light costumes. He-man defeats Skeletor. We get a few panels of King He-Man, Dare (his son) and the new Masters (Sir Laser-lot and Spector)-as well as Skeleteen, The Unnamed One, and the demon Keldor was merged with (his name escapes me).

 

Ah, thanks! This sounds okay... did they ever release classics of the Laser Light costumes?

 

On the last page, we see three Zodacs standing over Keldor's grave talking about neutrality existing by evil living.

 

Er... huh. Okay, I guess? Sort of like "balance to the Force" by there being light and dark?

 

They give way to a female Hordak who revives Skeletor (in a conveniently "New 52-ish" costume) with "For the Honor of Grayskull", indicating she is She-Ra.

 

...the hell? What?

 

It's kind of a mess.

 

So I see...

 

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Posted 20 April 2014 - 06:02 AM


Ah, thanks! This sounds okay... did they ever release classics of the Laser Light costumes?

 

They haven't yet. NA Skeletor is slated for this year, but I haven't read anything about the Laser Light costumes being on the list anywhere, but it's certainly possible (provided there is still a line in 2015).


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Posted 20 April 2014 - 06:35 AM

I heard a rumor they'll be sdcc exclusives, but I doubt it personally.

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Posted 20 April 2014 - 07:16 AM

They do make sense, though. Not-really-"essential", but still a draw. I could see them doing that.


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Posted 21 April 2014 - 03:19 AM

Maybe they'd give them their working gimmicks for SDCC. ;P

 

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Posted 21 April 2014 - 04:18 PM

Doubt it.


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Posted 21 April 2014 - 06:21 PM

Matty's shipping service continues to confound me.  I pay $10-11 to ship one figure.  That's pretty nuts to begin with for a single item.

Well, my Blade shipped on 10 April, and my Lookee/Kowl shipped on the 14th.  It's now the 21st, and they both arrived today.

 

Blade is awesome, though.  The chain mail is great and well detailed.



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Posted 21 April 2014 - 06:39 PM

Yeah the prices are ridiculous.

 

Blade is awesome.  I do wish he had two movie swords over one of each and that he didn't lose the sword painted detailing (other than the red).

 

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Posted 27 April 2014 - 11:51 AM

 

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Posted 28 April 2014 - 02:53 AM

Love that sig; too bad about the artifacts on the image, though.

 

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Posted 29 April 2014 - 01:04 AM

Several years have passed. Skeletor (now in his NA outfit) joins NA He-Man and She-Ra to take down Horde World. We are introduced to a bunch of the Create-a-Characters. Skeletor betrays He-Man and tried to steal the power of the aptly named "Temple of Power". They evolve into their Laser Light costumes. He-man defeats Skeletor. We get a few panels of King He-Man, Dare (his son) and the new Masters (Sir Laser-lot and Spector)-as well as Skeleteen, The Unnamed One, and the demon Keldor was merged with (his name escapes me).

 
Ah, thanks! This sounds okay... did they ever release classics of the Laser Light costumes?
 

On the last page, we see three Zodacs standing over Keldor's grave talking about neutrality existing by evil living.

 
Er... huh. Okay, I guess? Sort of like "balance to the Force" by there being light and dark?
 

They give way to a female Hordak who revives Skeletor (in a conveniently "New 52-ish" costume) with "For the Honor of Grayskull", indicating she is She-Ra.

 
...the hell? What?
 

It's kind of a mess.

 
So I see...
 
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Yeah, in the mess that goes as the DC comics version of MOTU apparently She-Ra is not brainwashed but is serving the Horde because she was raised to be one of them - and she is one annoyingly stereotypically evil character. Then again, Teela is a stereotypically annoying "tough girl", so they kinda even out.

I wish that some studio would instead try and bring us the last season of the 2002 MOTU in some format - as a comic, even. To me, that show was the best version of He-Man so far. Wish Matty would someday give us the rest of the Snakemen and the Horde in the style of the show in toy format.



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