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@  B-Fox : (16 January 2018 - 01:33 PM)

metalhawk

@  Shrug : (16 January 2018 - 01:21 PM)

I love RotF Mixmaster, if that means anything.

@  Tm_Silverclaw : (16 January 2018 - 12:42 PM)

Ehh.. when they get to complicated.. it gets annoying. PotP Optimus is decent. Rodimus pushes it just a little.

@  Locoman : (16 January 2018 - 12:32 PM)

Part of the appeal of Transformers for me has always been the mechanical puzzle angle, so I really enjoyed the ROTF/TF2010 line when that angle hit its zenith.

@  Locoman : (16 January 2018 - 12:31 PM)

I'm probably one of the few people who really enjoys complicated, fiddly transformations.

@  Steevy Maximus : (16 January 2018 - 12:14 PM)

Some were decent, but many suffered from that "collector mentality" where it just LOOKED good in both modes...but the engineering was complex merely for the sake of it.

@  Shrug : (16 January 2018 - 10:30 AM)

Huh. That's dissapointing. I had completely missed the Alternators and had just always assumed they were good based on how they looked in photos.

@  Pennpenn : (16 January 2018 - 03:34 AM)

I liked the Alternator Tracks mold. I think everyone agrees the Grimjack mold was just kinda shit even if you didn't care about it being Grimlock as a car.

@  Steevy Maximus : (15 January 2018 - 09:16 PM)

My local dept. store Shopko always seemed to get a few late run gems, like Blast Attack Optimus Primal and hard to find collection 2 Revenge of the Sith toys.

@  Steevy Maximus : (15 January 2018 - 09:15 PM)

Still wish I had snagged that extra Swerve I saw on clearance at Shopko, though

@  RichardT1977 : (15 January 2018 - 08:50 PM)

Smokescreen was the only Alternator I ever got.

@  Telly : (15 January 2018 - 07:24 PM)

i sold all my alternators last year

@  TheMightyMol... : (15 January 2018 - 05:27 PM)

Hound isn't bad, and, uh........

@  Paladin : (15 January 2018 - 05:23 PM)

there's only like 3 Alternator molds at most that still hold up...

@  Tm_Silverclaw : (15 January 2018 - 01:09 PM)

There were no shelfwarmer Altenators where I lived.. Cause no one ever got them in. x.x;

@  Bass X0 : (15 January 2018 - 12:57 PM)

I have Alternators Nemesis Prime since he was a shelf warmer here.

@  unluckiness : (15 January 2018 - 10:07 AM)

You wouldn't want to anyway

@  Chromedome113 : (15 January 2018 - 07:21 AM)

My first Prime was Alternators Optimus, I still can't transform him

@  Shrug : (14 January 2018 - 06:42 PM)

Ah. I'll try to remember that, but I keep forgetting "Gobots" the Autobot even existed.

@  SHIELD Agent 47 : (14 January 2018 - 05:02 PM)

"Gobots" is the G2 Autobot Color Changer.

@  SHIELD Agent 47 : (14 January 2018 - 05:01 PM)

@Shrug That would be "Go-Bots".

@  TheMightyMol... : (14 January 2018 - 03:16 AM)

At least you still had a big beefy super robot with giant guns.

@  JasperGunner... : (14 January 2018 - 01:47 AM)

My first Prime was Cybertron Prime. I was too stupid to know how to transform him lol

@  Shrug : (13 January 2018 - 11:15 PM)

My first Prime was Transmetal Primal. Second was RID Prime. My first Megatron was actually Gobots Megatron. I just didn't know he was Megatron for like 15 years. I often used him as "Roller" for RID Prime and I assume he's never really forgiven me.

@  Telly : (13 January 2018 - 10:39 PM)

my first prime was g1 prime actually in 1984. saw him at a store and begged my grandparents to give me my christmas money early lol

@  unitremover : (13 January 2018 - 10:33 PM)

Mine was Beast Machines deluxe Primal but I don't think I knew he what he was at the time.

@  Dekafox : (13 January 2018 - 09:32 PM)

My first Prime was actually LioConvoy... followed by Fire Convoy

@  Shrug : (13 January 2018 - 11:57 AM)

@Telly, but G1 Rodimus's vehicle mode is so durn sexy

@  LBD "Nyt... : (13 January 2018 - 04:30 AM)

PMOP was my second, and my first Optimus.

@  Tm_Silverclaw : (13 January 2018 - 04:29 AM)

My first Prime was Power Master Prime.. And though Titans Return had Power Master Prime.. Power of the Primes feels more like Power Master Prime to me.

@  LBD "Nyt... : (13 January 2018 - 04:17 AM)

Still wanted Hot Rod too, though.

@  LBD "Nyt... : (13 January 2018 - 04:17 AM)

I had Rodimus Prime as a kid, he was the first Prime I owned, and I loved 'im.

@  Tm_Silverclaw : (13 January 2018 - 12:27 AM)

At least he doesn't feel like he's about to fall apart in my hands like Masterpiece did.

@  Otaku : (12 January 2018 - 11:50 PM)

As a kid, I remember being confused that Rodimus Prime and Hot Rod had separate action figures. I thought there should be one that you could change between the "two".

@  Telly : (12 January 2018 - 10:59 PM)

'86 rodimus prime was a joke, even by '86 standards. it BARELY qualified as a transformer and his face was terrible

@  Bass X0 : (12 January 2018 - 05:05 PM)

He's leaps and bounds above the original 1986 Rodimus Prime, it's unbelievable. That's more of a criticism to 1986 Rodimus Prime's simplicity though.

@  Tm_Silverclaw : (12 January 2018 - 03:14 PM)

Rodimus is insainly complicated at first though.

@  Bass X0 : (12 January 2018 - 03:07 PM)

I like to imagine that Orion Pax has his own Cybertronian vehicle mode even though the toy doesn't have it. It would be Orion Pax evolving into Optimus Prime, but Optimus Prime cannot turn back into Orion Pax (even though the toy obviously can).

@  Tm_Silverclaw : (12 January 2018 - 03:05 PM)

Orion Pax? Only into Prime's truck mode.

@  Locoman : (12 January 2018 - 02:22 PM)

Timeout. Does it convert?

@  Dekafox : (12 January 2018 - 02:06 PM)

You mean: *var mode

@  SHIELD Agent 47 : (12 January 2018 - 01:50 PM)

*Sorry to be that guy, but *vehicle.

@  Tm_Silverclaw : (12 January 2018 - 01:11 PM)

I love the leaders.. Just complicated! I am semi disapointed that they didn't somehow get Orions vehical mode in there though.

@  Tm_Silverclaw : (12 January 2018 - 11:48 AM)

Possibly. Cause I didn't know how to transform his legs and was pulling the poor guy every whichaway

@  wonko the sane? : (12 January 2018 - 11:44 AM)

Maybe paladin just got the last one built on friday?

@  Tm_Silverclaw : (12 January 2018 - 11:42 AM)

Dunno about that... He seems pretty damn stable with as much as I was pulling and twisting.

@  Paladin : (12 January 2018 - 11:35 AM)

apparently he breaks easily. my interest has all but worn off.

@  Tm_Silverclaw : (12 January 2018 - 11:17 AM)

Rodimus is more complicated than I thought.

@  Tm_Silverclaw : (12 January 2018 - 10:57 AM)

I know I said PotP was Power Masters... But Prime -really- is very much desinged like the original PM Prime

@  wonko the sane? : (12 January 2018 - 10:46 AM)

And BBTS finally shipped mine! Will be another two weeks till they get here, but still! At least some good news today.


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#1 ZacWilliam1

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Posted 15 December 2010 - 08:46 AM

I've always been intersted in the fauna of Cybertron beyond the Transformers themselves. We've had a good number of Cybertronian animals mentioned over the years but very, very few have ever actually been seen. Awhile back I decided to come up with designs for all the Cybertronic fauna listed on the wiki. I did a big poster of them all, which I promptly saved to a flash drive and then misplaced before I could share it. So, recently I've started drawing them all over again from memory and recreating "The Cybertronic Beastiary" which I imagine as a book of sketches and notes from one of the first human visitors to Cybertron (Spike, or Chip, or Carly maybe).

I figured the first page should definately go to the Turbofox, which has the honor both of being the first Cybertronian animal mentioned in fiction (Mirage's G1 bio) and likely the one to be used the most times in various continuities since.

(I've left the image slightly large so the smaller text is still readable.)







-ZacWilliam plans to do future pages of the Beastiary soon, and has stuck this first page on some cafe press junk mostly for his own ammusement, if anyone really likes it.

Edited by ZacWilliam1, 13 March 2013 - 10:22 AM.

Ever wonder about the speed of Turbofoxes?
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Posted 15 December 2010 - 09:34 AM

The script text works well for the headers, but it's a little distracting for the body text.

It makes me VERY happy that you came up with some truly alien, robotic designs. Definitely not your run of the mill 'Earth animals wearing metal skin' concept. icon-hotrod.gif

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Posted 15 December 2010 - 10:23 AM

I'm not a big fan of the turbofox design, but overall I like the direction you're going in; these are not robot earth animals, these are something completely alien! I love the fluff of the fox being descended from rogue courier units, gives them a plausible origin story! The mice as rogue repair drones works too, makes sense why they sometimes 'infest' Transformers out of some misguided attempt to fix them.

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Posted 15 December 2010 - 10:50 AM


The turbofox design has been floating in my head forever. Admittedly it's pretty cribbed from Laserbeak with the head there. But given that everything we know about them is that they're the fastest things on Cybertron I liked the idea of their basically being jet engines with a head. All about the speed.

I like the idea of giving them just enough of a hint of the earth-animal they're named after to make it feasible for them to be called that, but at the same time keeping them very "Cybertronian" so they look like things that might have lived in the wilds on Cybertron.

But yeah, the text might be better served in a simpler font in the future. I liked the idea of it looking a bit like a "sketchbook" but if the script-text get's in the way of clarity it should probably be simplified.


-ZacWilliam, remembering the "titanium moosebot" mentioned in one ep being one of the hardest to design without it looking too goofy. May have to recreate that one next. icon-hotrod.gif
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Posted 15 December 2010 - 11:25 AM

One would think the glitch mice would be optical now instead of relying on roller balls. icon-fire.gif

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Posted 15 December 2010 - 12:14 PM

My optical mouse is certainly glitchier than any rollerball mouse I've used. icon-hotrod.gif

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Posted 15 December 2010 - 12:23 PM

Do more of these! This is fantastic!

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Posted 15 December 2010 - 12:34 PM

See, little details like this are what I thought was missing from War for Cybertron.

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Posted 15 December 2010 - 04:11 PM

The question that's been floating around my mind for like, ever, is, where are all the factories that mass-produced all these things?
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Posted 15 December 2010 - 04:56 PM

This project is a great idea, but personally, I don't see why turbo foxes and glitch mice can't look like robotic versions of their Earthly counterparts since the G1 cassettes basically established that's what cybertronian wildlife is like.

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Posted 15 December 2010 - 04:59 PM

I like these alot!

Are you taking submissions?

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Posted 15 December 2010 - 09:56 PM

QUOTE(Master Fwiffo @ Dec 15 2010, 12:23 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Do more of these! This is fantastic!


Thanks. icon-hotrod.gif I've been working on the Titanium moosebot this afternoon. The challenge drew me in. Liking how it's turning out. Depending how bad the cold I'm comming down with ends up I might have it up tomarrow.


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The question that's been floating around my mind for like, ever, is, where are all the factories that mass-produced all these things?


Well, it's possible some of the Fauna could build their own "pack-mates." Some animals might even date from the "origin" of the planet (be it Primus or the Quints).

But, assuming a functioning Factory-Nest... have you looked at Cybertron? The whole thing could be a factory. icon-hotrod.gif It's a VERY big place (I mean not just surface area, but you've also got underground levels planet-wide down to rediculous depths). Add in the pretty darn low population of sentients and there are likely long lost factories all over the place that no TF has seen in millenia. The master Turbofox factory might be a nasty place too, guarded by hundreds of the things. Any TF who stumbled across it might be lunch before they could share their discovery.

I love imagining Cybertron as a vast mostly unexplored world full of mystery and surprises even to the TFs.


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This project is a great idea, but personally, I don't see why turbo foxes and glitch mice can't look like robotic versions of their Earthly counterparts since the G1 cassettes basically established that's what cybertronian wildlife is like.


Only if you assume the cassettes are supposed to BE Cybertronian animals. That's a VERY big assumption IMO. Most media is very specific that the cassettes are their alternate forms and the "animal" forms are their basic robot selves. Just because their not standard humanoid doesn't mean they are analagous to Cybertronian animals. After all they are sentient intelligent beings. They just have "alternate" style robot-designs.

I find the Quintessa style exact roboticised-earth animals a little silly by themselves. I prefer to suggest the Earth animal enough that you can see why the name-analogy exists but make them "Cybetronian" enough that they arent just a metal fox or moose. But that's a personal design preference.

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I like these alot!

Are you taking submissions?


Awesome to hear it. icon-hotrod.gif

Well, my plan was just to go through and recreate my original designs as best I could from memory, but it would be interesting to see how others imagine these creatures looking too. Since we don't have any official images of most of them there's a lot of room for the artist's imagination. So sure, why not. Anyone wants to take a crack at a Cyberonic Beastiary design of their own, I say go for it and if I ever get around to compiling them on a site or book or something the different visions will just add to the coolness.



-ZacWilliam, has some moosebot drawings to scan.


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Posted 16 December 2010 - 01:38 AM

Tell Grimlock about Petrorabbits again!

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Posted 16 December 2010 - 03:59 AM

awesome awesome awesome

i love that they don't really look earth like. they're not supposed to be earthlike afterall.

who says laserbeak was a cybertronic bird? looked more like a jet of some type in MTMTE to me

love the mice concept, but want bigger scans! and is that the only form the foxes come in or is there a more stationary form as well?

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Posted 16 December 2010 - 10:06 AM

Hmm, is there a comprehensive list that you could toss up on here? I can't recall if tfwiki has a 'Cybertronian fauna' category or not. icon-arcee.gif
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Posted 16 December 2010 - 12:05 PM

QUOTE(Sheba @ Dec 15 2010, 09:11 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
The question that's been floating around my mind for like, ever, is, where are all the factories that mass-produced all these things?

They evolved from naturally occurring gears and pulleys.


QUOTE(ZacWilliam1 @ Dec 16 2010, 02:56 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Well, my plan was just to go through and recreate my original designs as best I could from memory, but it would be interesting to see how others imagine these creatures looking too.

It stands to reason that there may be regional variations in Cybertronic wildlife.

Edited by TheTurnipKing, 16 December 2010 - 12:09 PM.


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Posted 16 December 2010 - 12:29 PM

wow! amazing job man! keep them coming!
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Posted 16 December 2010 - 12:32 PM

QUOTE(Dissever @ Dec 16 2010, 10:06 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Hmm, is there a comprehensive list that you could toss up on here? I can't recall if tfwiki has a 'Cybertronian fauna' category or not. icon-arcee.gif

http://tfwiki.net/wi...tronic_wildlife

I'm really loving this whole idea. It needs an Autobot nature-show host to be covering it all though.
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Posted 16 December 2010 - 12:40 PM

Hound Irwin?
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Posted 16 December 2010 - 01:54 PM

Outback here mates, and next up we come to a true titan of the Cybertronian wilderness, the Titanium Moosebot. Ain't she a beauty? While many larger anibots have gone extinct in modern times due to the ongoing devestation and environmental pressures of the war, the Titanium Moosebot survives, in large part due to its remote and forbidding natural habitat. Let's take a look...






Truely a remarkable creature.


-ZacWilliam, who actually came up with too much material on this one to fit it all in with the images. Ah well. icon-hotrod.gif
Ever wonder about the speed of Turbofoxes?
Or the proverbial ailerons of Titanium Moosebots?

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For a mechazoologic tour of the mechanimals of Cybertron.