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@  Telly : (30 April 2017 - 09:46 PM)

" his weakness to fire." i can see the battle now: "you may have beat me to a bloody pulp, broken both my legs and shattered my spine, but i have a LIT MATCH!! whatre you gonna do NOW???"

@  SHIELD Agent 47 : (30 April 2017 - 06:39 PM)

Damn the shoutbox won't accept Asian script.

@  SHIELD Agent 47 : (30 April 2017 - 06:39 PM)

許されざる者よ!

@  Paladin : (30 April 2017 - 06:35 PM)

he's also addicted to Oreos. so, two weaknesses. :p

@  Foffy : (30 April 2017 - 06:34 PM)

I remember Justice League left out his eye beams and played down his strength a bit, which I presume was done to help deifferentiate him from Superman.

@  Verity Carlo : (30 April 2017 - 06:32 PM)

There's a reason why he's considered one of the most powerful of the JLA. Only one they can depend on to defeat him is Plastic Man, due to his brain's malleability.

@  Evac : (30 April 2017 - 06:27 PM)

Wow, reading about all his powers, he's actually kind of overpowered aside from his weakness to fire.

@  Evac : (30 April 2017 - 06:23 PM)

Martian Manhunter can disguise himself as anyone, shrink, grow, become invisible, stretch out his limbs, pop out extra arms, change his arms into blades, do all sorts of psychic stuff...

@  Evac : (30 April 2017 - 06:22 PM)

Which is kind of dumb. Aside from being a super-strong flying alien with eye beams that wears a cape and has super senses, there's a lot of differences.

@  Paladin : (30 April 2017 - 06:18 PM)

the higher-ups at WB apparently consider Martian Manhunter redundant- a "green Superman." that''s suposedly why hes left out.

@  Evac : (30 April 2017 - 06:16 PM)

I wouldn't mind seeing them put Steel in one of the DCEU movies, as long as they're better than the last three.

@  Evac : (30 April 2017 - 06:12 PM)

Really, he should be one of the easiest JL members to cast. You can take any guy of any race who's muscular enough for the role. It'd probably piss off the purists who want everything to be as close to the comics as possible, but you can't do anything without pissing them off.

@  Evac : (30 April 2017 - 06:10 PM)

Foffy's right. I mean, they don't have to keep Martian Manhunter white. He can disguise himself as any race.

@  Foffy : (30 April 2017 - 06:08 PM)

@Paladin I feel like Martian Manhunter would probably be played by a black actor anyway, though? I mean, his VAs in both the DCAU and The Batman were african american. Also, movies are a separate medium from comics.

@  Evac : (30 April 2017 - 06:08 PM)

He's, like, the least interesting Earth GL.

@  Evac : (30 April 2017 - 06:08 PM)

Hal Jordan is honestly a really boring character.

@  Verity Carlo : (30 April 2017 - 06:04 PM)

I mean, I don't hate Aquaman or Hal Jordan, but I like Martian Manhunter a lot more.

@  Evac : (30 April 2017 - 06:02 PM)

Meh, if I were then I would have just used John Stewart as Green Lantern, but I'd also have used Wally West instead of Barry Allen.

@  Paladin : (30 April 2017 - 05:59 PM)

because then WB has a reason/excuse to actually cast a black guy in the movie.

@  Verity Carlo : (30 April 2017 - 05:52 PM)

Nah, just stick him on a Wildstorm title, great idea.

@  Verity Carlo : (30 April 2017 - 05:52 PM)

Like, it's nice have Cybog getting his dues, but you could've have had him replaced Aquaman, not the guy who's literally been on every incarnation of the team and is it's heart and soul.

@  Verity Carlo : (30 April 2017 - 05:51 PM)

Why on the New 52, Martian Manhunter isn't one of the finding JLA members.

@  Verity Carlo : (30 April 2017 - 05:50 PM)

You know what I'll never understand?

@  NotVeryKnightly : (30 April 2017 - 05:01 PM)

There are shops with lots of pre-owned stuff like Mandarake, so it doesn't necessarily need to be retail, depending on where he's going.

@  Msol : (30 April 2017 - 04:19 PM)

Every other MP I want I have. I wonder how cheap Inferno is at retail...

@  Msol : (30 April 2017 - 04:19 PM)

I wonder if Star Saber is still around at retail. I don't know what it all looks like over there.

@  Foffy : (30 April 2017 - 04:05 PM)

Ask them to bring back a real live japanese person for you.

@  NotVeryKnightly : (30 April 2017 - 04:01 PM)

I'd say "any TF you don't already have" but I guess that's too general.

@  Msol : (30 April 2017 - 03:46 PM)

So hey I've got a buddy going to Japan for a vacation. What would be a good thing for him to bring back for me on the cheap? I've already got MP-36 so I'm not sure what else would worthwile...

@  Foffy : (30 April 2017 - 12:11 PM)

*Clicks on link* Ooh, that is a lovely webcomic, thank you. I'm going to have to bookmark this.

@  Rycochet : (30 April 2017 - 10:42 AM)

Breaking Cat News is a pretty awesome webcomic.

@  Evac : (30 April 2017 - 09:49 AM)

Brawl in the Family's my favorite webcomic.

@  Evac : (30 April 2017 - 09:48 AM)

You're a penguin, Dedede! You're a grumpy, grouchy guy! Your aggravating antics even sicken Sakurai, Dedede-EE! The only game you deserve is on the PHILLIPS CD-I! You're a mean king, Dedede! You've got Tektites in your smile! You've got all the wrath of Ganondorf, but only half the style, Dedede-EE! You'd even steal a painting of A SEASICK CROCODILE! I think I hate you, Dedede! You pathetic, putrid punk! You're as rancid as a Redead in a landfill full of junk, Dedede-EE! You miserable end-boss, you make me sick! And you can't even keep a pink puffball out of your hair! Three words that describe you best would be "stink, STANK, STUNK!"

@  unluckiness : (30 April 2017 - 09:27 AM)

if you like it you should have put a ring on it

@  2017 : (30 April 2017 - 09:09 AM)

There's nothing wrong with it, it's 99% of the time a joke term.

@  Pennpenn : (30 April 2017 - 08:39 AM)

I'll be gladder when the term "waifu" gets somehow deleted from existence, or at least falls out of common (or any) use.

@  SHIELD Agent 47 : (30 April 2017 - 04:36 AM)

Blasphemy! Zero Suit Samus forever!

@  Foffy : (30 April 2017 - 03:31 AM)

That feeling when you finally realize that King Dedede is the best waifu and all others are shit.

@  Pennpenn : (29 April 2017 - 08:35 PM)

There are probably plenty of people who wouldn't know them from Adam. Me, for example.

@  Telly : (29 April 2017 - 08:18 PM)

not from me. id just put him on ignore

@  SHIELD Agent 47 : (29 April 2017 - 08:16 PM)

I thought of something else about TFW2005 versus the Allspark. If Ignash was allowed back here, wouldn't that initiate lots of frustration and/or abandonment by people here?

@  Telly : (29 April 2017 - 08:09 PM)

with FRIGGIN laser beams on their FRIGGIN heads!

@  Lazy Garou : (29 April 2017 - 04:32 PM)

the do this to sharks. Friggin' sharks!

@  Lazy Garou : (29 April 2017 - 04:31 PM)

they don't kill. they eat half of your face, and you're left with a hideous tumor where the barnacle is.

@  Locoman : (29 April 2017 - 03:49 PM)

Perhaps the barnacle, consumed with guilt at what he'd done, took his own life after killing everyone

@  Lazy Garou : (29 April 2017 - 02:28 PM)

parasitic barnacles are the stuff of nightmares

@  MEDdMI : (29 April 2017 - 01:39 PM)

But barnacles don't have- *checks* "The main sense of barnacles appears to be touch, with the hairs on the limbs being especially sensitive. The adult also has a single eye, although this is probably only capable of sensing the difference between light and dark.[4]This eye is derived from the primarynaupliar eye." Huh.

@  ▲ndrusi : (29 April 2017 - 01:29 PM)

He looked in a mirror

@  Evac : (29 April 2017 - 01:26 PM)

He was killed by his own ugliness. Kind of a "Hoist by His Own Petard" thing.

@  MEDdMI : (29 April 2017 - 01:12 PM)

How did the barnacle get killed if everyone died from his ugliness?


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#1 ZacWilliam1

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Posted 15 December 2010 - 08:46 AM

I've always been intersted in the fauna of Cybertron beyond the Transformers themselves. We've had a good number of Cybertronian animals mentioned over the years but very, very few have ever actually been seen. Awhile back I decided to come up with designs for all the Cybertronic fauna listed on the wiki. I did a big poster of them all, which I promptly saved to a flash drive and then misplaced before I could share it. So, recently I've started drawing them all over again from memory and recreating "The Cybertronic Beastiary" which I imagine as a book of sketches and notes from one of the first human visitors to Cybertron (Spike, or Chip, or Carly maybe).

I figured the first page should definately go to the Turbofox, which has the honor both of being the first Cybertronian animal mentioned in fiction (Mirage's G1 bio) and likely the one to be used the most times in various continuities since.

(I've left the image slightly large so the smaller text is still readable.)







-ZacWilliam plans to do future pages of the Beastiary soon, and has stuck this first page on some cafe press junk mostly for his own ammusement, if anyone really likes it.

Edited by ZacWilliam1, 13 March 2013 - 10:22 AM.

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Posted 15 December 2010 - 09:34 AM

The script text works well for the headers, but it's a little distracting for the body text.

It makes me VERY happy that you came up with some truly alien, robotic designs. Definitely not your run of the mill 'Earth animals wearing metal skin' concept. icon-hotrod.gif

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Posted 15 December 2010 - 10:23 AM

I'm not a big fan of the turbofox design, but overall I like the direction you're going in; these are not robot earth animals, these are something completely alien! I love the fluff of the fox being descended from rogue courier units, gives them a plausible origin story! The mice as rogue repair drones works too, makes sense why they sometimes 'infest' Transformers out of some misguided attempt to fix them.

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Posted 15 December 2010 - 10:50 AM


The turbofox design has been floating in my head forever. Admittedly it's pretty cribbed from Laserbeak with the head there. But given that everything we know about them is that they're the fastest things on Cybertron I liked the idea of their basically being jet engines with a head. All about the speed.

I like the idea of giving them just enough of a hint of the earth-animal they're named after to make it feasible for them to be called that, but at the same time keeping them very "Cybertronian" so they look like things that might have lived in the wilds on Cybertron.

But yeah, the text might be better served in a simpler font in the future. I liked the idea of it looking a bit like a "sketchbook" but if the script-text get's in the way of clarity it should probably be simplified.


-ZacWilliam, remembering the "titanium moosebot" mentioned in one ep being one of the hardest to design without it looking too goofy. May have to recreate that one next. icon-hotrod.gif
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Posted 15 December 2010 - 11:25 AM

One would think the glitch mice would be optical now instead of relying on roller balls. icon-fire.gif

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Posted 15 December 2010 - 12:14 PM

My optical mouse is certainly glitchier than any rollerball mouse I've used. icon-hotrod.gif

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Posted 15 December 2010 - 12:23 PM

Do more of these! This is fantastic!

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Posted 15 December 2010 - 12:34 PM

See, little details like this are what I thought was missing from War for Cybertron.

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Posted 15 December 2010 - 04:11 PM

The question that's been floating around my mind for like, ever, is, where are all the factories that mass-produced all these things?
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Posted 15 December 2010 - 04:56 PM

This project is a great idea, but personally, I don't see why turbo foxes and glitch mice can't look like robotic versions of their Earthly counterparts since the G1 cassettes basically established that's what cybertronian wildlife is like.

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Posted 15 December 2010 - 04:59 PM

I like these alot!

Are you taking submissions?

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Posted 15 December 2010 - 09:56 PM

QUOTE(Master Fwiffo @ Dec 15 2010, 12:23 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Do more of these! This is fantastic!


Thanks. icon-hotrod.gif I've been working on the Titanium moosebot this afternoon. The challenge drew me in. Liking how it's turning out. Depending how bad the cold I'm comming down with ends up I might have it up tomarrow.


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The question that's been floating around my mind for like, ever, is, where are all the factories that mass-produced all these things?


Well, it's possible some of the Fauna could build their own "pack-mates." Some animals might even date from the "origin" of the planet (be it Primus or the Quints).

But, assuming a functioning Factory-Nest... have you looked at Cybertron? The whole thing could be a factory. icon-hotrod.gif It's a VERY big place (I mean not just surface area, but you've also got underground levels planet-wide down to rediculous depths). Add in the pretty darn low population of sentients and there are likely long lost factories all over the place that no TF has seen in millenia. The master Turbofox factory might be a nasty place too, guarded by hundreds of the things. Any TF who stumbled across it might be lunch before they could share their discovery.

I love imagining Cybertron as a vast mostly unexplored world full of mystery and surprises even to the TFs.


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This project is a great idea, but personally, I don't see why turbo foxes and glitch mice can't look like robotic versions of their Earthly counterparts since the G1 cassettes basically established that's what cybertronian wildlife is like.


Only if you assume the cassettes are supposed to BE Cybertronian animals. That's a VERY big assumption IMO. Most media is very specific that the cassettes are their alternate forms and the "animal" forms are their basic robot selves. Just because their not standard humanoid doesn't mean they are analagous to Cybertronian animals. After all they are sentient intelligent beings. They just have "alternate" style robot-designs.

I find the Quintessa style exact roboticised-earth animals a little silly by themselves. I prefer to suggest the Earth animal enough that you can see why the name-analogy exists but make them "Cybetronian" enough that they arent just a metal fox or moose. But that's a personal design preference.

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I like these alot!

Are you taking submissions?


Awesome to hear it. icon-hotrod.gif

Well, my plan was just to go through and recreate my original designs as best I could from memory, but it would be interesting to see how others imagine these creatures looking too. Since we don't have any official images of most of them there's a lot of room for the artist's imagination. So sure, why not. Anyone wants to take a crack at a Cyberonic Beastiary design of their own, I say go for it and if I ever get around to compiling them on a site or book or something the different visions will just add to the coolness.



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Posted 16 December 2010 - 01:38 AM

Tell Grimlock about Petrorabbits again!

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Posted 16 December 2010 - 03:59 AM

awesome awesome awesome

i love that they don't really look earth like. they're not supposed to be earthlike afterall.

who says laserbeak was a cybertronic bird? looked more like a jet of some type in MTMTE to me

love the mice concept, but want bigger scans! and is that the only form the foxes come in or is there a more stationary form as well?

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Posted 16 December 2010 - 10:06 AM

Hmm, is there a comprehensive list that you could toss up on here? I can't recall if tfwiki has a 'Cybertronian fauna' category or not. icon-arcee.gif
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Posted 16 December 2010 - 12:05 PM

QUOTE(Sheba @ Dec 15 2010, 09:11 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
The question that's been floating around my mind for like, ever, is, where are all the factories that mass-produced all these things?

They evolved from naturally occurring gears and pulleys.


QUOTE(ZacWilliam1 @ Dec 16 2010, 02:56 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Well, my plan was just to go through and recreate my original designs as best I could from memory, but it would be interesting to see how others imagine these creatures looking too.

It stands to reason that there may be regional variations in Cybertronic wildlife.

Edited by TheTurnipKing, 16 December 2010 - 12:09 PM.


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Posted 16 December 2010 - 12:29 PM

wow! amazing job man! keep them coming!
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Posted 16 December 2010 - 12:32 PM

QUOTE(Dissever @ Dec 16 2010, 10:06 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Hmm, is there a comprehensive list that you could toss up on here? I can't recall if tfwiki has a 'Cybertronian fauna' category or not. icon-arcee.gif

http://tfwiki.net/wi...tronic_wildlife

I'm really loving this whole idea. It needs an Autobot nature-show host to be covering it all though.
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Posted 16 December 2010 - 12:40 PM

Hound Irwin?
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Posted 16 December 2010 - 01:54 PM

Outback here mates, and next up we come to a true titan of the Cybertronian wilderness, the Titanium Moosebot. Ain't she a beauty? While many larger anibots have gone extinct in modern times due to the ongoing devestation and environmental pressures of the war, the Titanium Moosebot survives, in large part due to its remote and forbidding natural habitat. Let's take a look...






Truely a remarkable creature.


-ZacWilliam, who actually came up with too much material on this one to fit it all in with the images. Ah well. icon-hotrod.gif
Ever wonder about the speed of Turbofoxes?
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For a mechazoologic tour of the mechanimals of Cybertron.