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@  Pennpenn : (27 April 2017 - 03:23 AM)

Hard G. I don't give a solitary shit what the creators call it, the first word in the acronym is "Graphical". I have no idea why they'd think any sane human could, would, or should pronounce it any other way.

@  SHIELD Agent 47 : (27 April 2017 - 03:13 AM)

I acknowledge what the creators say, but whether I remember to use their pronunciation or not is hit or miss. Heck, I think I usually think of it in my head as "gee-i-ef", in parallel to "JPG" and "PNG".

@  Waspinator : (27 April 2017 - 02:50 AM)

Let's heat things up: what are everyone's opinions on how GIF should be pronounced?

@  Diecast : (26 April 2017 - 11:11 PM)

But I will say that a lot of fandom forums are generally more tolerable nowadays because most belligerent types stick to Facebook groups

@  Diecast : (26 April 2017 - 11:09 PM)

I do like their hard no-politics rule. Now that I do the occasional freelance writing for some local politics and I like zero percent of it my hobby space now. But holy cow, do they replace it with neck beard drama.

@  LordGigaIce : (26 April 2017 - 10:30 PM)

like Noideaforaname I posted on TFW for a while. I came here after I got harassed for daring to suggest that Play With This Too was run by unoriginal hacks, and yeah. This place so much more preferable.

@  Nutjob R/T : (26 April 2017 - 10:15 PM)

And you're turning us on

@  Nutjob R/T : (26 April 2017 - 10:15 PM)

The terrible secret of the Allspark: We all have this twisted fetish for rational thought processes

@  lastmaximal : (26 April 2017 - 10:13 PM)

Not everyone likes everything, and people aren't blind to shortfalls or annoyances resulting from constraints of how the brand is handled. We make many a joke out of these things. But it's a rare thing when entitlement replaces logic on here, where that seems to be poster raison d'etre everywhere else.

@  lastmaximal : (26 April 2017 - 10:11 PM)

It's utterly weird how these here boards seem so impervious an oasis when it comes to that depth of idiocy. Worshipping 3p and demanding the official companies "step it up" and stop being so lazy? Insisting the movies be done THEIR way, crapping on every single thing revealed about the films or toyline, then whining that they can't find (insert hot movie to here) or the official release of a movie figure doesn't capture the look in the film they hated? Etc

@  lastmaximal : (26 April 2017 - 10:09 PM)

It's not even a "brand pissing contest" or "board loyalty" thing, not least due to the fact that those don't really even happen here all that much. I'm just happy to be with levelheaded people who've outgrown the usual fan dumb tropes. You can have a civilized conversation here and people don't shit on things only to hide behind "but but but to each their own right?" when their myopic BS is challenged.

@  lastmaximal : (26 April 2017 - 10:07 PM)

With each time nonsense like this flares up on tfw or on local discussion venues (and it does quite a bit) I'm just reminded of why I've essentially been allspark bound for the last... Fifteen or so years.

@  Noideaforaname : (26 April 2017 - 10:07 PM)

On the plus side, tho, TFW has "appreciation threads" for practically everything, even stuff like Kre-O and PCC. And their toy database is quite handy.

@  Noideaforaname : (26 April 2017 - 10:03 PM)

I've been happily posting on TFW for years. Then, after being *here* for a few months, I look back and wonder how the hell I even bothered with it. I mean, my ignore list had hundreds of people on it. Literally HUNDREDS of ignored people. I even showed off said gargantuan list once (with a small thumbnail that you couldn't read any of the names on, mind you). That... that really should have been a warning sign, I suppose...

@  WorkbenchManiac : (26 April 2017 - 08:03 PM)

Thanks, I enjoyed reading the nerdrage. I should hang out over there more often.

@  Diecast : (26 April 2017 - 07:07 PM)

I mean, Reveal Your Shield. That gets complained about too.

@  Diecast : (26 April 2017 - 07:04 PM)

One of the reveal the shield news threads at TFW has movie fans and G1 fans arguing over who has it worse

@  WorkbenchManiac : (26 April 2017 - 06:49 PM)

You got me awfully curious. What thread ware we talking about?

@  Diecast : (26 April 2017 - 02:17 PM)

That was a quality read. Both sides of that thread's argument went pretty crazy.

@  Noideaforaname : (26 April 2017 - 02:11 PM)

"When Beast Wars made Optimus a monkey nobody complained" ~ someone desperate for a 'gotcha'

@  Diecast : (26 April 2017 - 02:05 PM)

I want to find the rock they've been under that there isn't constantly complaining about something.

@  Diecast : (26 April 2017 - 02:04 PM)

For the lack if a better word, it baffles me when someone starts a discussion somewhere that's like "Does anyone else not like the movies?"

@  TheMightyMol... : (26 April 2017 - 12:13 PM)

Careful, it might have something to say about that.

@  MEDdMI : (26 April 2017 - 12:13 PM)

I'm gonna have to check your opinion out real good to make sure.

@  TheMightyMol... : (26 April 2017 - 11:55 AM)

Oppinions are like assholes. Everyone has one, but mine is better so shut up.

@  ▲ndrusi : (26 April 2017 - 11:08 AM)

To clarify on point 1 since I was typing early in the morning again, "you must hate exactly what I hate" and "you msut like exactly what I like" aren't actually the same statement but they're the same thought process which is "my opinions are objective facts." If you see someone espousing one, they're probably thinking the other, too.

@  lastmaximal : (26 April 2017 - 10:57 AM)

... what.

@  Bass X0 : (26 April 2017 - 10:15 AM)

Andrusi, I imagine to some people online, there isn't that much of a world of difference, at least going by the venom they post; although not at RiD specifically.

@  unluckiness : (26 April 2017 - 08:55 AM)

The scale of liking and hating is an interval one so you can not like something but not hate it. Pretty sure there's apathy and dislike in between there at least.

@  wonko the sane? : (26 April 2017 - 08:07 AM)

And humans are perfectly capable of hating things in unison while being divided on liking.

@  ▲ndrusi : (26 April 2017 - 07:34 AM)

On the other hand, there's a world of difference between "I hate RID" and "I hate Nazis."

@  ▲ndrusi : (26 April 2017 - 07:27 AM)

On one hand, "hating what I hate" IS "liking what I like." One of those cultures can't be worse than the other because they're literally the same culture.

@  ▲ndrusi : (26 April 2017 - 07:26 AM)

I think that comparison is both an oversimplification AND a meaningless distinction.

@  wonko the sane? : (26 April 2017 - 07:16 AM)

That's the internet effect. Distance and anonimity make for easy and consequence-less extremism.

@  Bass X0 : (26 April 2017 - 06:58 AM)

I think the aggressive "How dare you not hate exactly what I hate" culture online is worse than the aggressive "How dare you not like exactly what I like" culture.

@  MEDdMI : (26 April 2017 - 06:19 AM)

And now that song/scene and its many many parodies are running through my head.

@  unluckiness : (26 April 2017 - 06:18 AM)

Patrick Swayze didnt!

@  MEDdMI : (26 April 2017 - 05:58 AM)

lol. As long as they knock first.

@  LBD "Nyt... : (26 April 2017 - 05:57 AM)

Or as ghosts. I guess ghosts would be acceptable.

@  LBD "Nyt... : (26 April 2017 - 05:57 AM)

For now, I'd just find some small comfort in knowing those who have passed actually are in some sort of better place.

@  LBD "Nyt... : (26 April 2017 - 05:56 AM)

I'd find comfort in knowing that one way or another, that suffering would eventually end and a new, potentially happier beginning awaits.

@  MEDdMI : (26 April 2017 - 05:54 AM)

@LBD At the same time, I can't imagine wanting to stay in even a happy afterlife when fleshies are still suffering.

@  2017 : (26 April 2017 - 05:49 AM)

Celebrating and welcoming death just gives them more ideological hoops to justify killing others. So yeah, no thanks.

@  LBD "Nyt... : (26 April 2017 - 05:48 AM)

The idea of death doesn't bother me so much as no longer existing.

@  MEDdMI : (26 April 2017 - 05:48 AM)

at the very least, my body will feed the grass which feeds the antelope which feeds the lio- ....wait

@  LBD "Nyt... : (26 April 2017 - 05:47 AM)

Yeah, that's kind of the thing.

@  MEDdMI : (26 April 2017 - 05:47 AM)

Some cultures celebrate/welcome death (of course, those also have some form of afterlife)

@  wonko the sane? : (26 April 2017 - 05:45 AM)

You shouldn't be. What with having absolutely no knowledge or control over it.

@  2017 : (26 April 2017 - 05:45 AM)

Death is scary, which is why we either spend our lives avoiding the subject or staying up late overthinking it.

@  LBD "Nyt... : (26 April 2017 - 05:44 AM)

"Never did want to live forever." I'm more bothered about what -- if anything -- is next.


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#1 Demovere Xeno

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Posted 02 November 2010 - 05:29 PM

So I've been looking through reviews on this guy, and the ones I've read are pretty polarized. Some say that you should buy them for the individual robot modes, while others say that the innovative combining style offsets the mostly-simple individual modes.

What about you guys who own the set? I've been eyeing the four being sold on BBTS, but I'm not sure yet if I do want to nab them. I already have Rail Racer from the same series - who is one of my favorite combiners, loose knees aside - so I'm hoping to get this guy to compliment Racer's unique combination sequence.

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Posted 02 November 2010 - 05:33 PM

I love both the individuals and the combiner.

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Posted 02 November 2010 - 05:43 PM

It was decent enough at the time but I couldn't really recommend them now. If you like the general aesthetic from the line itself them go ahead. But there are better toys about now.

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Posted 02 November 2010 - 05:55 PM

QUOTE(Demovere Xeno @ Nov 2 2010, 06:29 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
So I've been looking through reviews on this guy, and the ones I've read are pretty polarized. Some say that you should buy them for the individual robot modes, while others say that the innovative combining style offsets the mostly-simple individual modes.

What about you guys who own the set? I've been eyeing the four being sold on BBTS, but I'm not sure yet if I do want to nab them. I already have Rail Racer from the same series - who is one of my favorite combiners, loose knees aside - so I'm hoping to get this guy to compliment Racer's unique combination sequence.

Don't expect the same quality of aesthetics and engineering that you experienced with Rail Racer. Landfill is something of a Frankenstein monster. This has pros and cons. The cool part is that three of the four components can be either the arms or a leg. I personally think Heavy Load and Hightower pull this off better than Grimlock because they connect more solidly with the chest component, Wedge. Although you're more likely to see Grimlock as the arms because they generally look better, even if they're not as solid. The con is that if you're not careful it is *very* easy to turn Landfill into bUiLDthInG, a mess of robot parts and construction equipment. His legs really don't have any useful articulation, but you can get some nice poses with any of the available arm styles, but placing the shovel, crane gun, and dumptruck bed so they look useful is tricky.

Some people have come up with different chest configurations like this one: http://www.oafe.net/yo/tfrid_land.php Some of them work pretty well, some not so much. Grimlock as arms does allow you to be a bit more creative. I always liked the RiD deco for Landfill, but I sold him off after acquiring the Target Devastator set. The Frankenstein construction equipment motiff works better as a yellowgreen Decepticon, imho. icon-hotrod.gif

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Posted 02 November 2010 - 05:57 PM

You can get leg articulation lots of ways, actually, I can take some pics of my preferred combo when I get home if you'd like.

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Posted 02 November 2010 - 05:58 PM

I like Landfill a lot. The individuals vary from interesting-but-iffy (Grimlock) to perfectly-good-but-a-little-dull-and-also-really-small (Wedge).

However, he's from a pretty significantly different design aesthetic than Rail Racer, both superficially and engineering-wise. So I wouldn't assume that just because you like Rail Racer (I do, although man Midnight Express sucks) that you'll also like Landfill. My guess is, the bigger a fan you are of combining Transformers as a general concept, the more you'll like him. If your thing is beautiful display pieces, maybe not.

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Posted 02 November 2010 - 06:29 PM

Full disclaimer: I was not thrilled with most of RiD, but Landfill really floats the old proverbial boat for me. I think it probably helps that I actually have the Devastator repaint and he's not a horrible Lego-like build-a-bot like the Magnus Prime contraption.

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Posted 02 November 2010 - 06:51 PM

I miss bUiLdThInG.
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Posted 02 November 2010 - 07:03 PM

QUOTE(Alpha Omega Trion Supreme @ Nov 2 2010, 06:55 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
The con is that if you're not careful it is *very* easy to turn Landfill into bUiLDthInG, a mess of robot parts and construction equipment.

Hell, even if you ARE careful... icon-wildride.gif
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Posted 02 November 2010 - 07:32 PM

It's a very fun combiner, even if it has some drawbacks. It's also unique, using a combination not seen anywhere else which allows him to have 3 different combined modes.

As for the individual bots, I rank RiD BumblebeeWedge as the best, Grimlock second (if only for how weird he is and his pretty neat scorpion mode I came up with), with Hightower (great weapons and head sculpt) leading ahead of Wideload (great headsculpt full of character, but his weapon is uninspiring). Aesthetically, they feel more like true G1 update-toys than some of the other RiD new molds (like the Car Bros, which are really Beast Wars toys wearing car kibble).

Also, you might consider going for either repaint of the set, as they're probably easier to get complete (the Wm version has all four in one box, and the Devastator splits them into two boxes) and they have unified schemes, which avoids the whole "bUIlDthINg" look. Devastator in particular looks great, although I want the even more Bumblebee-looking Wedge from the WM set.

Edited by Octavius Prime, 02 November 2010 - 07:34 PM.


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Posted 02 November 2010 - 07:39 PM

I like the molds pretty well. I've got both the yellow and Devastator versions, and have had a lot of fun over the years fidgeting with them. The individual modes seemed a lot more awesome compared to Armada toys than to more recent ones, but they are still pretty solid. I've never been really crazy about Grimlock, but the other 3 are definitely solid, as is the combined form. The combining method really is unique and interesting.

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Posted 02 November 2010 - 07:46 PM

The individual robots are very good if you go for blocky, simple construction robots. The combiner is great as a fun, innovative combination scheme, and less great as an actual robot.

So it depends? If you like what he sets out to do, he does those things well.

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Posted 02 November 2010 - 08:07 PM

Dunno the names, but the bulldozer is one of my favorite Transformers of the last ten years. He fits right in on my Classics shelf, with his blocky proportions and simple yet satisfying transformation.

The others have been in a storage box for quite some time now. The green steam shovel is interesting, but the other two are pretty dull (aside from the pistol that came with the red crane, which is currently wielded by Classics Bumblebee), and the combined mode has some pretty crazy proportions no matter which order they go in.

So, I'd say the bulldozer is absolutely worth getting. If the others have to come along too, fine, but they're not necessary in my book.

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Posted 02 November 2010 - 08:13 PM

What sort of witchcraft do you do to keep Wedge from falling backwards, CPF? icon-fire.gif

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Posted 02 November 2010 - 08:21 PM

I don't remember that being an issue.

I guess he's usually holding his gun-thingy, which may be a counterbalance. But I don't immediately think of it as one of the robots that can't stand on its own. He doesn't have heelspurs, but he also has a big chest and no backpack, so there shouldn't be much weight to pull him backwards.

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Posted 02 November 2010 - 08:41 PM

I bought him in his original colors recently, and I really like him. (It seems like I'm one of the few who likes the original colors... I enjoy a unified team color scheme as much as the next guy, but part of me also likes a giant robot who's made out of a bunch of different little robots to LOOK like a giant robot who's made out of a bunch of different little robots.)

The tri-combination gimmick is pretty clever, although I pretty much stick to Hightower and Heavy Load as legs. In "chest mode", I angle Wedge's shovel pieces back, just because I don't like how they look sticking straight out.

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Posted 02 November 2010 - 08:49 PM

Build King is one of my favorite gestalts. Tons of play value, especially if you like being creative with your transformers.

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Posted 02 November 2010 - 09:42 PM

I have four versions of these toys (Car Robots, RiD, yellow Landfill, and Conctructicons), so...you probably know my answer icon-hotrod.gif

Here's the thing though...don't expect the typical Transformer combiner at all. Heck, for the dump truck and crane, don't expect typical Transformers. There's just something about them that is kinda missing that Transformers-vibe, almost making them feel like they were designed for some other Japanese transforming robot toy line. It's tough to explain.

Personally, I like them for it. Even with four sets of them, they still manage to make themselves feel unique amongst my collection. Will you like them because/despite it? Well, that's all personal opinion, so I can't really tell you what to think...

Other than "Wedge is great. I should buy Wedge." icon-hotrod.gif He really is a "tiny God" before the phrase was coined icon-ironhide.gif

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Posted 02 November 2010 - 10:00 PM

Thanks for the opinions, guys. icon-hotrod.gif

QUOTE(CabOOOse! @ Nov 2 2010, 02:57 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
You can get leg articulation lots of ways, actually, I can take some pics of my preferred combo when I get home if you'd like.

If it's not too much trouble, thanks. I was wondering about that; some of the reviews I read say that Landfill has quite limited articulation in his combined mode legs.

QUOTE(Octavius Prime @ Nov 2 2010, 04:32 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Also, you might consider going for either repaint of the set, as they're probably easier to get complete (the Wm version has all four in one box, and the Devastator splits them into two boxes) and they have unified schemes, which avoids the whole "bUIlDthINg" look. Devastator in particular looks great, although I want the even more Bumblebee-looking Wedge from the WM set.

I have been looking for either of those sets for a while now; I alas ignored the all-yellow team and Constructicon repaints when I saw them several years ago. icon-wildride.gif Sadly, the ones I've seen online these days are way over my budget. icon-screamer.gif The Car Robots versions I found on BBTS are much closer to how much I'm willing to pay for these guys. Plus, I agree with Abberation - it's more interesting to see them in different colors, making it more obvious that they're several robots that combine into a much-larger robot.

QUOTE(ChessPieceFace @ Nov 2 2010, 05:07 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
The green steam shovel is interesting, but the other two are pretty dull (aside from the pistol that came with the red crane, which is currently wielded by Classics Bumblebee)...

That's actually another one of the reasons I want this set. icon-fire.gif I have the G3 trailer with comes with the spare gun for Bumblebee, but like someone posted on the TF image thread a long time ago, Hightower's tiny gun can fit inside Bee's vehicle mode.

So...... I may save up for all four of these guys, after all. icon-hotrod.gif I have been wanting these guys for quite a while now, and it'll be a shame to let that chance slip by now. Just...... nobody else buy them off BBTS first, alright? icon-waspy.gif

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Posted 02 November 2010 - 10:04 PM

It's a good set and I think it mostly holds up going back and playing with it again, but I really wish that Grimlock/Build Hurricane wasn't so crappy and awkward compared to the other team members. Even if it meant he ended up being similar to Heavy Load and Hightower.

Despite the fact that I use Wal-Mart Classics Devastator (Energon redeco) in my display, I actually still kind of like the Universe 1 recolor of the Build Team as Devastator as well, just because I find the blocky bodies and cartoony faces to work really well with Classics. Again, the crappiness of the Grimlock mold kind of holds me back from wanting to display the set.

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