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@  Diecast : (26 April 2017 - 02:17 PM)

That was a quality read. Both sides of that thread's argument went pretty crazy.

@  Noideaforaname : (26 April 2017 - 02:11 PM)

"When Beast Wars made Optimus a monkey nobody complained" ~ someone desperate for a 'gotcha'

@  Diecast : (26 April 2017 - 02:05 PM)

I want to find the rock they've been under that there isn't constantly complaining about something.

@  Diecast : (26 April 2017 - 02:04 PM)

For the lack if a better word, it baffles me when someone starts a discussion somewhere that's like "Does anyone else not like the movies?"

@  TheMightyMol... : (26 April 2017 - 12:13 PM)

Careful, it might have something to say about that.

@  MEDdMI : (26 April 2017 - 12:13 PM)

I'm gonna have to check your opinion out real good to make sure.

@  TheMightyMol... : (26 April 2017 - 11:55 AM)

Oppinions are like assholes. Everyone has one, but mine is better so shut up.

@  ▲ndrusi : (26 April 2017 - 11:08 AM)

To clarify on point 1 since I was typing early in the morning again, "you must hate exactly what I hate" and "you msut like exactly what I like" aren't actually the same statement but they're the same thought process which is "my opinions are objective facts." If you see someone espousing one, they're probably thinking the other, too.

@  lastmaximal : (26 April 2017 - 10:57 AM)

... what.

@  Bass X0 : (26 April 2017 - 10:15 AM)

Andrusi, I imagine to some people online, there isn't that much of a world of difference, at least going by the venom they post; although not at RiD specifically.

@  unluckiness : (26 April 2017 - 08:55 AM)

The scale of liking and hating is an interval one so you can not like something but not hate it. Pretty sure there's apathy and dislike in between there at least.

@  wonko the sane? : (26 April 2017 - 08:07 AM)

And humans are perfectly capable of hating things in unison while being divided on liking.

@  ▲ndrusi : (26 April 2017 - 07:34 AM)

On the other hand, there's a world of difference between "I hate RID" and "I hate Nazis."

@  ▲ndrusi : (26 April 2017 - 07:27 AM)

On one hand, "hating what I hate" IS "liking what I like." One of those cultures can't be worse than the other because they're literally the same culture.

@  ▲ndrusi : (26 April 2017 - 07:26 AM)

I think that comparison is both an oversimplification AND a meaningless distinction.

@  wonko the sane? : (26 April 2017 - 07:16 AM)

That's the internet effect. Distance and anonimity make for easy and consequence-less extremism.

@  Bass X0 : (26 April 2017 - 06:58 AM)

I think the aggressive "How dare you not hate exactly what I hate" culture online is worse than the aggressive "How dare you not like exactly what I like" culture.

@  MEDdMI : (26 April 2017 - 06:19 AM)

And now that song/scene and its many many parodies are running through my head.

@  unluckiness : (26 April 2017 - 06:18 AM)

Patrick Swayze didnt!

@  MEDdMI : (26 April 2017 - 05:58 AM)

lol. As long as they knock first.

@  LBD "Nyt... : (26 April 2017 - 05:57 AM)

Or as ghosts. I guess ghosts would be acceptable.

@  LBD "Nyt... : (26 April 2017 - 05:57 AM)

For now, I'd just find some small comfort in knowing those who have passed actually are in some sort of better place.

@  LBD "Nyt... : (26 April 2017 - 05:56 AM)

I'd find comfort in knowing that one way or another, that suffering would eventually end and a new, potentially happier beginning awaits.

@  MEDdMI : (26 April 2017 - 05:54 AM)

@LBD At the same time, I can't imagine wanting to stay in even a happy afterlife when fleshies are still suffering.

@  2017 : (26 April 2017 - 05:49 AM)

Celebrating and welcoming death just gives them more ideological hoops to justify killing others. So yeah, no thanks.

@  LBD "Nyt... : (26 April 2017 - 05:48 AM)

The idea of death doesn't bother me so much as no longer existing.

@  MEDdMI : (26 April 2017 - 05:48 AM)

at the very least, my body will feed the grass which feeds the antelope which feeds the lio- ....wait

@  LBD "Nyt... : (26 April 2017 - 05:47 AM)

Yeah, that's kind of the thing.

@  MEDdMI : (26 April 2017 - 05:47 AM)

Some cultures celebrate/welcome death (of course, those also have some form of afterlife)

@  wonko the sane? : (26 April 2017 - 05:45 AM)

You shouldn't be. What with having absolutely no knowledge or control over it.

@  2017 : (26 April 2017 - 05:45 AM)

Death is scary, which is why we either spend our lives avoiding the subject or staying up late overthinking it.

@  LBD "Nyt... : (26 April 2017 - 05:44 AM)

"Never did want to live forever." I'm more bothered about what -- if anything -- is next.

@  2017 : (26 April 2017 - 05:44 AM)

Though I think the brain is a finite storage space so you'd probably start forgetting so much after some point it'd be like a new person transitioning in every few centuries. That'd be a good reason to keep a diary.

@  2017 : (26 April 2017 - 05:43 AM)

I think immortality is possible biologically in the future, or at least living for vastly longer spans of time. I'd personally be happy to live at least a few thousand years, but I'd aim for forever.

@  LBD "Nyt... : (26 April 2017 - 05:34 AM)

@MEDdMI Oh man, that bugs me all the time.

@  LBD "Nyt... : (26 April 2017 - 05:33 AM)

Well, yesterday was a depressing bout of thinking I was going to get TR Hot Rod and then not getting TR Hot Rod after all (among other things).

@  MEDdMI : (26 April 2017 - 05:31 AM)

Which is also something that bugs me about the "your dead loved ones are always watching you" concept. Do you mind? I'd like a little privacy, please!

@  MEDdMI : (26 April 2017 - 05:30 AM)

Even if it was possible, I can't help but think people would skip to the "good" parts, like sex.

@  MEDdMI : (26 April 2017 - 05:26 AM)

exactly.

@  unluckiness : (26 April 2017 - 05:21 AM)

Besides the fact that it's all silly sci-fi scenarios, you can't just experience a memory and feel what that person felt since you have your own set of perceptual biases by which to judge the event

@  unluckiness : (26 April 2017 - 05:19 AM)

We already have something like that. It's called history class.

@  MEDdMI : (26 April 2017 - 05:18 AM)

"But in my ancestor's memory, they stole our orange first!"

@  Nevermore : (26 April 2017 - 05:14 AM)

"Your great-great-great-great-grandfather stole my great-great-great-great-grandfather's apple! I will kill you for that!"

@  Nevermore : (26 April 2017 - 05:14 AM)

If we had all our ancestors' knowledge, too many people would just use that as a excuse to continue old grudges for generations.

@  MEDdMI : (26 April 2017 - 05:13 AM)

I remember the same event a bit differently than my parents do, some things I'm sure happened but they don't remember or vice versa, etc.

@  MEDdMI : (26 April 2017 - 05:12 AM)

the problem with knowledge and memories is that our brains interpret/fill in gaps so it may not be completely accurate. It wouldn't be much different from autobiographical books/movies.

@  LordGigaIce : (26 April 2017 - 03:37 AM)

yeah...this could just end up as a way for them to sell our grandkids Crystal Pepsi Max

@  TM2-Megatron : (26 April 2017 - 03:35 AM)

Well, maybe this facebook mind reading thing I've been hearing about is the first step to that.... though I have to admit I'd prefer if it weren't such an advertising and data-collection obsessed company working on it

@  LordGigaIce : (26 April 2017 - 03:25 AM)

i'm legitimately hoping for the day when that happens, my snark aside, TM2-Megatron. Imagine what could be accomplished if future generations had first hand knowledge of the thoughts and contexts of the events that shaped their ancestors', and their own, world?

@  TM2-Megatron : (26 April 2017 - 03:24 AM)

Even if it's just a way to download knowledge and memories without consciousness from a brain, I think that would go a long way towards easing people's minds.


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#1 Confuzor

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Posted 17 August 2010 - 02:23 PM

I wasn't sure if this was the right forum for this, but I figured it would be bad form to post it in the Buy/Sell/Trade forum since it's not up for sale yet. I'm looking to see what a fair price I could ask for these 2 figures I've got. Fair for me and the buyer, if you know what I mean.

I've been a semi-regular forumer here for about 6 years, so I trust your guys' opinions on such things. I've never tried to sell used TFs before, so I don't know where to begin. Of course, once I've come to a fair starting price, I'll post it here to the proper forum before taking it to E-bay. It's the least I could do ^_^

The truth of the matter is, while these toys are some of the big guns collectors like, they're not in the best condition (as the photos I've taken will show) but they do have their boxes, which I hear is a plus, regardless of quality.


Backstory:
I acquired this Metroplex and Jetfire from a friend about 3 years back who was moving away and found them in her attic. Since she knew I was a TFfan and her older brother no longer wanted them, she gave them to me. They've been sitting in my room for a while and I decided that I need money and someone else may appreciate them a bit more.


Here are pics in box:















As you can see, the boxes have seen better days. The Jetfire box has the techspecs cut out and barely holds together. Metroplex's is more complete, it even still has the original Toys R Us price tag($32.97 ^_^)

Toy pics in the next post.

Edited by Confuzor, 17 August 2010 - 02:27 PM.


#2 Confuzor

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Posted 17 August 2010 - 02:37 PM

Next up is pics of Jetfire himself.







He's got all his main parts. He's missing one of his Jet pods and his gun. His hands don't seem to want to slide back into the arms, I didn't want to force them. Clearly he has some random yellowing all over.

His left Clavicle joint (the part that allows the jet to fold in half) has a metal part that seems to have broken free of it's plastic encasement. It only really becomes an issue during transformation, as in Robot and his alt mode everything holds together pretty well without it. Also, one of the tail fin parts broke at the base while I was taking photos.



Up next: Metroplex.

#3 Confuzor

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Posted 17 August 2010 - 02:44 PM

Now Metroplex:











He's unfortunately missing alot of parts. He has almost no guns except a small white one. His fist parts are gone as well. The little robot helper/ Tower guy is missing his legs. All joints necessary for transformation to base mode function (as you can see by the above pics) The spring loaded Head popping mechanism functions as well.


So that's my story guys, please give me your honest opinion on what would be a fair asking price for these guys. Once I come to a decision, I'll make a proper ost in the Buy/Sell/trade section. Thanks alot!

Edited by Confuzor, 17 August 2010 - 02:48 PM.


#4 Freddycon

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Posted 17 August 2010 - 03:30 PM

Well, I'm no expert, but I'd say go do some research on mint and not-so-mint bots on Ebay, see what the regular market demand is for them, and then use your personal judgement on what you think the TF's are worth. Obviously you won't be able to get Mint-In-Box prices for them. So consider what you would pay for them at mint and then make what you think are fair deductions for the damages and missing items, as well as the overall condition of the bots.

All in all go with the things you think are fair. You certainly won't be able to please everyone but if you can get a fair price that you feel good with and the customer feels good paying, them it's win-win all around!

Edited by Freddycon, 17 August 2010 - 03:33 PM.


#5 Detective Fork

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Posted 17 August 2010 - 03:38 PM

Because of the missing parts and the damage, I wouldn't expect to make a mint on these. Also keep in mind that Metroplex has been reissued recently.

#6 Confuzor

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Posted 18 August 2010 - 12:47 AM

I'm very aware that I won't be seeing MIB prices for these guys, hence asking for "Fair" price suggestions.

Thanks for the heads up about Metroplex re-issue.

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Posted 21 August 2010 - 04:39 PM

Sorry to double post (not as much assistance in here as I'd hoped...)

Looking on E-bay, I think I would be able to purchase the missing accessories and include the price of doing so in the final asking price? Is that something people usually do?

I really haven't done this before, so I'm quite ignorant as to what is normal and accepted and what is frowned upon behavior.

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Posted 21 August 2010 - 05:08 PM

I'd like to have a Metroplex but I have no interest in having the box, so it me it's worthless.

#9 TheMightyMollusk

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Posted 21 August 2010 - 05:35 PM

You should just box them up and send them to me. I'll take care of it for you. icon-op.gif

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