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@  wonko the sane? : (26 April 2017 - 08:07 AM)

And humans are perfectly capable of hating things in unison while being divided on liking.

@  ▲ndrusi : (26 April 2017 - 07:34 AM)

On the other hand, there's a world of difference between "I hate RID" and "I hate Nazis."

@  ▲ndrusi : (26 April 2017 - 07:27 AM)

On one hand, "hating what I hate" IS "liking what I like." One of those cultures can't be worse than the other because they're literally the same culture.

@  ▲ndrusi : (26 April 2017 - 07:26 AM)

I think that comparison is both an oversimplification AND a meaningless distinction.

@  wonko the sane? : (26 April 2017 - 07:16 AM)

That's the internet effect. Distance and anonimity make for easy and consequence-less extremism.

@  Bass X0 : (26 April 2017 - 06:58 AM)

I think the aggressive "How dare you not hate exactly what I hate" culture online is worse than the aggressive "How dare you not like exactly what I like" culture.

@  MEDdMI : (26 April 2017 - 06:19 AM)

And now that song/scene and its many many parodies are running through my head.

@  unluckiness : (26 April 2017 - 06:18 AM)

Patrick Swayze didnt!

@  MEDdMI : (26 April 2017 - 05:58 AM)

lol. As long as they knock first.

@  LBD "Nyt... : (26 April 2017 - 05:57 AM)

Or as ghosts. I guess ghosts would be acceptable.

@  LBD "Nyt... : (26 April 2017 - 05:57 AM)

For now, I'd just find some small comfort in knowing those who have passed actually are in some sort of better place.

@  LBD "Nyt... : (26 April 2017 - 05:56 AM)

I'd find comfort in knowing that one way or another, that suffering would eventually end and a new, potentially happier beginning awaits.

@  MEDdMI : (26 April 2017 - 05:54 AM)

@LBD At the same time, I can't imagine wanting to stay in even a happy afterlife when fleshies are still suffering.

@  2017 : (26 April 2017 - 05:49 AM)

Celebrating and welcoming death just gives them more ideological hoops to justify killing others. So yeah, no thanks.

@  LBD "Nyt... : (26 April 2017 - 05:48 AM)

The idea of death doesn't bother me so much as no longer existing.

@  MEDdMI : (26 April 2017 - 05:48 AM)

at the very least, my body will feed the grass which feeds the antelope which feeds the lio- ....wait

@  LBD "Nyt... : (26 April 2017 - 05:47 AM)

Yeah, that's kind of the thing.

@  MEDdMI : (26 April 2017 - 05:47 AM)

Some cultures celebrate/welcome death (of course, those also have some form of afterlife)

@  wonko the sane? : (26 April 2017 - 05:45 AM)

You shouldn't be. What with having absolutely no knowledge or control over it.

@  2017 : (26 April 2017 - 05:45 AM)

Death is scary, which is why we either spend our lives avoiding the subject or staying up late overthinking it.

@  LBD "Nyt... : (26 April 2017 - 05:44 AM)

"Never did want to live forever." I'm more bothered about what -- if anything -- is next.

@  2017 : (26 April 2017 - 05:44 AM)

Though I think the brain is a finite storage space so you'd probably start forgetting so much after some point it'd be like a new person transitioning in every few centuries. That'd be a good reason to keep a diary.

@  2017 : (26 April 2017 - 05:43 AM)

I think immortality is possible biologically in the future, or at least living for vastly longer spans of time. I'd personally be happy to live at least a few thousand years, but I'd aim for forever.

@  LBD "Nyt... : (26 April 2017 - 05:34 AM)

@MEDdMI Oh man, that bugs me all the time.

@  LBD "Nyt... : (26 April 2017 - 05:33 AM)

Well, yesterday was a depressing bout of thinking I was going to get TR Hot Rod and then not getting TR Hot Rod after all (among other things).

@  MEDdMI : (26 April 2017 - 05:31 AM)

Which is also something that bugs me about the "your dead loved ones are always watching you" concept. Do you mind? I'd like a little privacy, please!

@  MEDdMI : (26 April 2017 - 05:30 AM)

Even if it was possible, I can't help but think people would skip to the "good" parts, like sex.

@  MEDdMI : (26 April 2017 - 05:26 AM)

exactly.

@  unluckiness : (26 April 2017 - 05:21 AM)

Besides the fact that it's all silly sci-fi scenarios, you can't just experience a memory and feel what that person felt since you have your own set of perceptual biases by which to judge the event

@  unluckiness : (26 April 2017 - 05:19 AM)

We already have something like that. It's called history class.

@  MEDdMI : (26 April 2017 - 05:18 AM)

"But in my ancestor's memory, they stole our orange first!"

@  Nevermore : (26 April 2017 - 05:14 AM)

"Your great-great-great-great-grandfather stole my great-great-great-great-grandfather's apple! I will kill you for that!"

@  Nevermore : (26 April 2017 - 05:14 AM)

If we had all our ancestors' knowledge, too many people would just use that as a excuse to continue old grudges for generations.

@  MEDdMI : (26 April 2017 - 05:13 AM)

I remember the same event a bit differently than my parents do, some things I'm sure happened but they don't remember or vice versa, etc.

@  MEDdMI : (26 April 2017 - 05:12 AM)

the problem with knowledge and memories is that our brains interpret/fill in gaps so it may not be completely accurate. It wouldn't be much different from autobiographical books/movies.

@  LordGigaIce : (26 April 2017 - 03:37 AM)

yeah...this could just end up as a way for them to sell our grandkids Crystal Pepsi Max

@  TM2-Megatron : (26 April 2017 - 03:35 AM)

Well, maybe this facebook mind reading thing I've been hearing about is the first step to that.... though I have to admit I'd prefer if it weren't such an advertising and data-collection obsessed company working on it

@  LordGigaIce : (26 April 2017 - 03:25 AM)

i'm legitimately hoping for the day when that happens, my snark aside, TM2-Megatron. Imagine what could be accomplished if future generations had first hand knowledge of the thoughts and contexts of the events that shaped their ancestors', and their own, world?

@  TM2-Megatron : (26 April 2017 - 03:24 AM)

Even if it's just a way to download knowledge and memories without consciousness from a brain, I think that would go a long way towards easing people's minds.

@  TM2-Megatron : (26 April 2017 - 03:22 AM)

I dunno; like life itself I think the things that define it are open to change. It's not like I have grand expectations of immortality, constantly downloading my consciousness into freshly-grown genetically-enhanced clones of myself. But I think it's a waste for so much accumulated experience and memories to just wink out.

@  LordGigaIce : (26 April 2017 - 03:21 AM)

or something

@  LordGigaIce : (26 April 2017 - 03:21 AM)

all semblence of order our purpose are symtoms of the sickness in man's ego mad mind. sense is not possible until the end.

@  LordGigaIce : (26 April 2017 - 03:19 AM)

existence is a vulgar absurdity

@  unluckiness : (26 April 2017 - 03:18 AM)

Eh, death is part of what defines life. Sooner we accept that it's just a thing that happens, the better.

@  Pennpenn : (26 April 2017 - 03:13 AM)

Probably be easier to develop that kind of thing if a significant portion of the population didn't think it was going to happen anyway for no adequately explainable reason.

@  TM2-Megatron : (26 April 2017 - 02:42 AM)

Death doesn't terrify me, but I have to admit I find the notion of its inevitably more than a little disappointing. I'd hope there's eventually some way to preserve our minds in some form prior to death

@  TheMightyMol... : (26 April 2017 - 01:55 AM)

Or maybe some broken kid in a giant cyborg will turn us all into tang. Who knows what the future brings?

@  Waspinator : (26 April 2017 - 01:52 AM)

As someone terrified of death, I for one welcome our transhumanist singularity overlords.

@  TheMightyMol... : (26 April 2017 - 01:52 AM)

Our grandchildren's grandchildren's grandchildren's grandchildren will be less than dust before heat death matters anyway.

@  2017 : (26 April 2017 - 01:51 AM)

Signularity is a meaningless buzzword, like a lot of this transhumanist late-game stuff.


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Posted 25 May 2010 - 11:37 AM

BSG went away last year. Lost is gone. Heroes finally kicked the bucket. What do we geeks have left to entertain ourselves in the sci-fi/fantasy realm of television? Supernatural and Smallville will likely both end next season. Is there anything left for us to fight and argue and get nerd rage over?

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Posted 25 May 2010 - 11:44 AM

Chuck? Stargate universe?

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Posted 25 May 2010 - 11:50 AM

SGU, V, whatever new junk scifi dredges up, a few other oddities and trickles here and there.

Oh and imports like Doctor Who, Sarah Jane Adventures, and Sentai and such.

As to animated TV, I think we are fully SOL until Hub launches, and even then hard to tell what we will be getting.
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Posted 25 May 2010 - 12:06 PM

Caprica if it gets renewed. As for upcoming shows the Cape and Spielberg's Terra Nova seem promising.

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Posted 25 May 2010 - 12:11 PM

I just watched one of the best Sci-Fi/Drama shows of all time from start to finish, having missed it the first time around -- Roswell.

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Posted 25 May 2010 - 12:19 PM

24 just ended too - not sci/fi, but definitely a lot of overlap in viewership I'm sure.

Might be a good time to dust-off some old shows you missed the first time around. Buffy is pretty good (the second season is when it really starts going), Angel was an excellent series (better than Buffy), but of course the best Joss Whedon show is Firefly & Serenity.

Then there's other non-scifi stuff that I've heard is good, like Six Feet Under, The Wire, and Mad Men.

But I'm saving the best for last - The Shield. If you haven't seen The Shield, you're missing out on what is easily, IMO, the best written TV series ever. If you haven't ever seen it, forgo any other TV show attachment, and start getting those discs from Netflix.

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Posted 25 May 2010 - 12:29 PM

The answer is obvious... Reruns.
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Posted 25 May 2010 - 12:30 PM

Futurama is going to be back soon. Ugly Americans is good.
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Posted 25 May 2010 - 12:44 PM

QUOTE(xZAOx @ May 25 2010, 01:19 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Might be a good time to dust-off some old shows you missed the first time around. Buffy is pretty good (the second season is when it really starts going), Angel was an excellent series (better than Buffy), but of course the best Joss Whedon show is Firefly & Serenity.


But I'm saving the best for last - The Shield. If you haven't seen The Shield, you're missing out on what is easily, IMO, the best written TV series ever. If you haven't ever seen it, forgo any other TV show attachment, and start getting those discs from Netflix.


I cannot agree more. Especially about the greatness of Angel and The Shield. I was pissed that I didn't make it to Botcon last year in CA. I found a website that had the addresses of a ton of The Shield locations. The church used for the Barn, a few of the streets, Aceveda's house, etc... and was going to check them out.

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To the thread in general:

There are always times like this where all of our favorite shows seem to end simultaneously. But the positive is that usually new ones come to replace them and usually do so in groups. Something else will come and we'll all fawn over it, just no clue what it will be yet.

If Lucas ever makes his live-action Star Wars TV series, I'm sure that will help fill the void. If the rebooted Star Trek movie franchise does well with # 2, I can picture a new Trek show. With Disney funding Marvel Studios now, I wouldn't be surprised to see some kind of comic-inspired show down the line (though stuff like Runaways and Young Avengers would fit their demographics best).

Also, for the person who mentioned the Shield, Michael Chiklis is working on a show about a Madoff-like Ponzi scammer. That might be interesting.

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Posted 25 May 2010 - 12:52 PM

Chuck, Chuck and more Chuck. And Caprica, but mostly Chuck.
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Posted 25 May 2010 - 12:53 PM

QUOTE(Kalidor @ May 25 2010, 12:11 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I just watched one of the best Sci-Fi/Drama shows of all time from start to finish, having missed it the first time around -- Roswell.

Yay! I'm finally not the only person I know who ever watched and liked this show! I also recommend it highly to anyone else. It's 3 seasons, and a complete story.

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Posted 25 May 2010 - 12:55 PM

While not all are really Sci/fi or Fantasy based, there still are some great shows out there.

Castle - Awesome show with Nathan Fillion doing an excellent job in it.
V - Never saw the original, but the remake has been pretty entertaining.
Big Bang theory - This is a perfect Geek comedy show. It has an awesome cast and has yet to disappoint me.
SG: Universe - Pretty good Star Gate show. I haven't watched the second half of season 1 yet, but I can't wait to plow through it on my DVR.

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Posted 25 May 2010 - 01:03 PM

No love for Warehouse 13?

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Posted 25 May 2010 - 01:20 PM

Clone Wars continues to be pretty good. And it's only a matter of time before Star Trek returns to TV.
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Posted 25 May 2010 - 01:59 PM

QUOTE(Solarstorm @ May 25 2010, 01:44 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
With Disney funding Marvel Studios now, I wouldn't be surprised to see some kind of comic-inspired show down the line (though stuff like Runaways and Young Avengers would fit their demographics best).



Please do not suggest such things!!! I cannot fathom how badly Disney would Butcher those in a "for TV" translation. Runaways is my favorite comic book property of all time, and I don't want to see it in the wrong hands. Now you get the original creative team back together, and have Joss executive produce and do some directing and put it on a proper station, then maybe something could happen.


back on topic:
Some other geek scifi to catch up on:
The other two Stargate shows
Classic Doctor Who (26 years worth)
Hercules and Xena are slowly arriving on DVD for some camp goodness
Sanctuary is good I hear, never seen it.


Hmm, I wonder if Blakes 7 will ever be out on DVD stateside. I've always been curious about that...
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Posted 25 May 2010 - 02:25 PM

QUOTE(Pigbag @ May 25 2010, 02:20 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Clone Wars continues to be pretty good. And it's only a matter of time before Star Trek returns to TV.

We can only its another ten years before trek comes back. It's a series that does not deserve to die... but also doesn't deserve to continue being treated the way it has been in the last few years. They need to SERIOUSLY let it sit and let a new generation of writers take a whack at it.

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Posted 25 May 2010 - 02:58 PM

QUOTE(Pigbag @ May 25 2010, 01:20 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Clone Wars continues to be pretty good. And it's only a matter of time before Star Trek returns to TV.

Indeed! I don't know how I forgot about that!

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Posted 25 May 2010 - 03:33 PM

How in the blue hell has no one mentioned Fringe?

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Posted 25 May 2010 - 03:37 PM

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How in the blue hell has no one mentioned Fringe?


Because it's horrible?

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I tried to watch the first episode, but couldn't keep myself from ridiculing it. I personally found it extremely stupid, far-fetched, and full of ignorant conclusions. This coming from someone who watched all of Lost and 24. I hated it.

I guess you could say it wasn't my cup of tea.

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Posted 25 May 2010 - 03:40 PM

QUOTE(xZAOx @ May 25 2010, 03:37 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
QUOTE(Thunderous Iron Moose 3000! @ May 25 2010, 03:33 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
How in the blue hell has no one mentioned Fringe?


Because it's horrible?

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I tried to watch the first episode, but couldn't keep myself from ridiculing it. I personally found it extremely stupid, far-fetched, and full of ignorant conclusions. This coming from someone who watched all of Lost and 24. I hated it.

I guess you could say it wasn't my cup of tea.

That was pretty much my feeling on the show. I wanted to like it too, but just couldn't. The "I peed on myself" line was the only really entertaining part, and I'm sorry, that's not good enough reason to tune back in.

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