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@  TheMightyMol... : (24 April 2017 - 01:49 PM)

Hey man, don't dongshame.

@  Benbot : (24 April 2017 - 12:32 PM)

#crotchproblems

@  Robowang : (24 April 2017 - 11:53 AM)

Menasor's problem is that his crotch is waaaaaaaaaaaaaay too high. I couldn't care less about those other issues. If your dong is a chestburster, something ain't right.

@  BlackMax : (24 April 2017 - 11:40 AM)

Seems like all the combiners have an issue like that, the legs can never be completely straight in combined mode, the finished big bot is always looming eerily or hip-thrusting.

@  SHIELD Agent 47 : (24 April 2017 - 11:39 AM)

I doubt having an integrated trailer would have swayed me into buying CW Motormaster. But what definitely put me off were Internet reports of awful hip ratcheting.

@  BlackMax : (24 April 2017 - 11:36 AM)

I might also mention that ~not~ being a big truck has worked for the Internet pretty well.

@  unluckiness : (24 April 2017 - 11:32 AM)

I moaned about Motormaster because his combiner mode was awful

@  Rycochet : (24 April 2017 - 11:31 AM)

People moaned about the choices made during Combiner wars.that meant characters like Motormaster/Menasor weren't G1G1G1.

@  BlackMax : (24 April 2017 - 11:23 AM)

He could always be a very small red truck.

@  TheMightyMol... : (24 April 2017 - 10:59 AM)

But how will you know it's Optimus Prime if he's not a big red truck?

@  Broadside : (24 April 2017 - 10:20 AM)

Personally, I'm not a fan of the extreme-accuracy trend. The character choices are kind of sure-fine-whatever, but outside of stuff like Alpha Trion that's a huge divergence from the source material, there doesn't feel like there's much imagination in the designs any more.

@  Pennpenn : (24 April 2017 - 05:03 AM)

Because you might as well start as you mean to go on?

@  Nevermore : (24 April 2017 - 04:16 AM)

It does. Preview image is Legion's penis tongue.

@  SHIELD Agent 47 : (24 April 2017 - 04:15 AM)

Hold it. Please tell me Kiss Players doesn't have a GoBox.

@  Autobot Bubbs : (24 April 2017 - 03:10 AM)

That is epically messed up

@  Autobot Bubbs : (24 April 2017 - 03:10 AM)

GURD.... youtube just auto-played a new trailer for the Alien flick.... featuring John Denver's 'country roads' as BG music....

@  Noideaforaname : (24 April 2017 - 12:37 AM)

The Generations lineup should be decided by hitting Random Page on the wiki. "Next one is... Crankstart." 'Alright, I love the Scavengers!' "No, no, CrankSTART. The repaint of a repaint of a repaint of a Scout version of a Deluxe based on a background vehicle from the Live Action film." 'Oh'

@  RichardT1977 : (23 April 2017 - 11:31 PM)

After we get a couple of Pretenders. And a Titans Return Star Saber (not a difficult retool from Galvatron).

@  BlackMax : (23 April 2017 - 10:21 PM)

I really do like all the attention to the 80s toys, being from that era myself. However, I would be really happy if (let's say post Trypticon) the Generations line turns to the 2001 RiD line, Beast Wars stuff, and moves forwarda bit.

@  SHIELD Agent 47 : (23 April 2017 - 08:19 PM)

I'm curious because I'm not an 80s kid nor have I ever held an actual 80s toy in my hands, but I'm pretty sure a mathematically significant portion of 80s kids here do have a like for cartoon accuracy.

@  SHIELD Agent 47 : (23 April 2017 - 08:15 PM)

How much of this community favors versus not favors the current Hasbro design team's general trend of accuracy to classic 1980s toys and lack of attention to any other era of Transformers?

@  Fruitloop Mu... : (23 April 2017 - 07:36 PM)

Telly, ah, got it.

@  Evac : (23 April 2017 - 06:41 PM)

"You can do magic things!" "It's called evil, kid."

@  Foffy : (23 April 2017 - 06:27 PM)

Potatoes don't have ears. That's corn.

@  Telly : (23 April 2017 - 06:27 PM)

little furry potatos

@  Evac : (23 April 2017 - 06:24 PM)

This potato's got big ears...

@  Foffy : (23 April 2017 - 06:18 PM)

The potato rebellion will be swift and brutal.

@  Waspinator : (23 April 2017 - 03:48 PM)

IT'S WATCHING US

@  Telly : (23 April 2017 - 03:34 PM)

yeah, at the time im posting this, theres a "2" next to it and me and fruitloop are shown to be the 2 people reading it

@  Telly : (23 April 2017 - 03:33 PM)

i think it just means that someone is reading the shoutbox

@  Fruitloop Mu... : (23 April 2017 - 03:25 PM)

Re The Rise of Cobra: I like bad movies and action sequences involving elite ninjas, so I watched / fast-forwarded through it on Netflix a couple of years ago.

@  Fruitloop Mu... : (23 April 2017 - 03:23 PM)

Can anyone tell me why the Shoutbox has a notification (a "1") when I login sometimes? I scroll through and don't see anything addressed to me. What does it mean?

@  ▲ndrusi : (23 April 2017 - 01:33 PM)

I miss the 2000s when my local stores got new toys more than once a year.

@  NotVeryKnightly : (23 April 2017 - 01:09 PM)

I mean, it might be hard to not know about something before release at all, but the degree of familiarity that you described is only attainable if you intentionally seek things out.

@  NotVeryKnightly : (23 April 2017 - 12:59 PM)

That's at least partially your own fault. The "in motion" part sounds like you even watched videos, which require conscious effort, unlike pictures that might be hard to even avoid.

@  Bass X0 : (23 April 2017 - 12:22 PM)

I miss the 80s where the first time I ever saw Transformers toys was on the toy shelves and hadn't already saw the toy from every angle and in motion several months beforehand. It made seeing a toy in the store something very special to me that I can't recapture now.

@  Evac : (23 April 2017 - 12:14 PM)

I could see Generations becoming a TRU exclusive line, now that I think about it.

@  Xellos : (23 April 2017 - 12:14 PM)

Also, Generations weathered AOE, and the TLK line seems to be short as well, so I think we'll still be seeing some room for Generations.

@  TheMightyMol... : (23 April 2017 - 12:11 PM)

Titans aren't really wide-released anyway. About the only brick-and-mortar chain to reliably carry them is Toys R Us.

@  NotVeryKnightly : (23 April 2017 - 12:08 PM)

Isn't Trypticon still a long way from now?

@  Evac : (23 April 2017 - 11:57 AM)

They wouldn't let a big-ticket item like that get cancelled.

@  Evac : (23 April 2017 - 11:57 AM)

Counter argument: They still haven't released Trypticon.

@  unluckiness : (23 April 2017 - 09:25 AM)

But yeah, not having any big-name media means it's the most likely, although the premiere series packaging might convince retailers to dedicate more shelf space, kinda like SW Black.

@  unluckiness : (23 April 2017 - 09:24 AM)

I'd expect Generations to be the sacrificial lamb since they can't possibly stock RID any less.

@  RichardT1977 : (23 April 2017 - 09:06 AM)

I'm thinking the subline that doesn't have a movie or TV show will be the one on the cutting board.

@  RichardT1977 : (23 April 2017 - 09:05 AM)

Back to TF toys: the question is whether or not retailers will be willing to commit the peg/shelf space for three sublines. And which one will be sidelined if space is at a premium.

@  unluckiness : (23 April 2017 - 06:28 AM)

No idea.

@  TheMightyMol... : (23 April 2017 - 03:40 AM)

Sometimes the Shoutbox takes a little longer to catch up to a new avatar.

@  NotVeryKnightly : (23 April 2017 - 03:00 AM)

In the Shoutbox I'm seeing the pink thing instead of that guy with the weird eyes.

@  Telly : (23 April 2017 - 02:59 AM)

looks the same to me. maybe it looks different cause its smaller?


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#1 lonegamer8

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Posted 10 March 2010 - 02:46 AM

Bumblebee #4 out Wednesday, March 10, 2010.

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Posted 10 March 2010 - 12:51 PM

QUOTE(lonegamer8 @ Mar 10 2010, 02:46 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Bumblebee #4 out Wednesday, March 10, 2010.


And not a bad end to the series. Can't say it was among IDW's best entries, but it wasn't a bad one.

I wonder how the end will effect the ongoing...


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Posted 10 March 2010 - 03:10 PM

QUOTE(Echowarrior @ Mar 10 2010, 01:51 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
QUOTE(lonegamer8 @ Mar 10 2010, 02:46 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Bumblebee #4 out Wednesday, March 10, 2010.

I wonder how the end will effect the ongoing...


Probably not at all, considering their track record of late with design consistency.

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Posted 10 March 2010 - 07:54 PM

I hope Skywarp's okay and comes back.

After all, Thundercracker was completely wrecked. Maybe Skywarp teleported out (unless he couldn't, I only skimmed it, I didn't read the whole thing).

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Posted 10 March 2010 - 07:59 PM

QUOTE(Powered Convoy @ Mar 10 2010, 07:54 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I hope Skywarp's okay and comes back.

After all, Thundercracker was completely wrecked. Maybe Skywarp teleported out (unless he couldn't, I only skimmed it, I didn't read the whole thing).


My understanding is that Skywarp is merely severely damaged by the control board going all explodey - odds are he's in Skywatch custody for the time being. Severely damaged, but otherwise more than capable of coming back in the future.




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Posted 10 March 2010 - 08:02 PM

In a comic universe where body models are explicitly allowed to change randomly between each artist and comic, the big payoff and lasting consequence of this limited series...is a new body model for Bumblebee.

Huh.

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Posted 10 March 2010 - 08:56 PM

QUOTE(Xaaron @ Mar 10 2010, 08:02 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
In a comic universe where body models are explicitly allowed to change randomly between each artist and comic, the big payoff and lasting consequence of this limited series...is a new body model for Bumblebee.

Huh.


One that appears to be modeled after Movieverse 'Bee, however. Not sure if that's a good thing, but hey, why not?


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Posted 10 March 2010 - 09:43 PM

It does resemble the Camaro, but the actual robot bits don't look like it. I really don't like the design of the robot much either.

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Posted 10 March 2010 - 10:02 PM

Bumblebee getting a new body is a major plot point. After he got a new body for literally no reason at the start of the series. So bloody stupid.

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Posted 10 March 2010 - 10:31 PM

Pretty good - I think this might have worked better as three issues. The main climax of the story built much on Bumblebee's relationship with the little girl, which was only introduced so late as #3. So the whole thing about Blurr just feels like the comic was jumping through a hoop to show how tight the continuity is with Blur being chased off at the end of one issue in the ongoing and showing up on the run in this series - although off the top of my head I can't think of a better way to structure it, and I'm fairly sure that Bumblebee (Goldbug) will work better reading it in one piece. Eagerly anticipating Prowl.
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Posted 11 March 2010 - 11:08 AM

I liked the issue a lot. It was no Wreckers, but I thought it was a very good story about Bumblebee, with some satisfying payoffs.

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Posted 11 March 2010 - 12:34 PM

Agreed - I honestly didn't think it was a bad issue.

I hate the fact though that suddenly, in a miniseries where the designs have already varied drastically from the ongoing (especially in Bumblebee and Blurr's cases), suddenly a new design is a plot point.

I don't mind Chee's STYLE at all, and I do like the style. But I hate the design inconsistencies, ESPECIALLY when we're then expected to accept a new design that's being carried over to the ongoing.

I wish we'd seen Chee's versions of Don's designs rather than G1 animation models.

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Posted 11 March 2010 - 06:06 PM

Thought I would mention that Schmidt has copped to the Blurr thing being a genuine mistake:

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And to be fair, when talking about the design versus artistic license (and please feel free to continue if you like) the Blur alt mode discrepancy was, point blank, something I missed. Had I caught it, I would have changed it. So, while that does exist in print, it's not an example that accurately depicts our intentions. And I do apologize for missing it. I am only human after all.


This at least makes me feel better than thinking it was something they were cool with. I don't particularly mind the redrawing of Bumblebee in a different style (It's pretty minor), but the Blurr bit seemed going too far for something the company actually wanted. I'll gladly take an admission of mistake over a concerted direction toward open inconsistency.

He also mentioned that HIGHLIGHT to view:
as of issue 6, Don will be drawing Bumblebee with his new body.

Eh, anyway, I still say he shed his Earth form for the hovercar so he could go faster. Where's my No Prize?

Edited by Moroboshi Ataru, 11 March 2010 - 06:06 PM.


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Posted 11 March 2010 - 06:12 PM

Man, I just assumed that he was going to be rebuilt into Goldbug at the end, and then I remembered IDW had made Goldbug a separate character. Which made little sense at the time, and now REALLY stands out as pointless when THAT would have added a neat touch to the end of this story. But I suppose I can't moan THAT much, as it means... well, he's still Bumblebee.

But yeah, I really quite enjoyed this mini.

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Posted 11 March 2010 - 06:34 PM

I actually prefer this, because it's less "Just like it was in G1" to have Goldbug as his own 'bot. (Meanwhile, I like Galvatron, Scourge and Cyclonus to consistently be a trio. It...bothers me when one isn't present, like in Worlds Collide, when Dirge replaced Cyclonus. So it's arbitrary with me, apparently, whether I want them to follow G1 or not.)

(And in IDW's defense, they were originally going to go a more original direction with Scourge, i.e. have him not be in the DU crew, and be the Decepticon Kup instead, but Hasbro nixed it.)

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Posted 11 March 2010 - 06:36 PM

Spotlight: Metroplex came out right around the same time as Coda, which featured the prologue to the Bumblebee series. In hindsight, Goldbug was probably introduced as a separate character for no other reason then to justify why Bumblebee wouldn't take that name and look upon being upgraded.

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Posted 11 March 2010 - 07:05 PM

That's kind of a cynical way to look at it, though. icon-fire.gif Or it implies more forethought toward continuity than IDW sometimes shows. Anyhow, you ask me, the more characters, the better (And this is a more believable "Two characters" thing than B'Boom and Apache being separate guys. That was just...hm.) Heck, Bumblebee and Goldbug have more different-looking bot modes than Bumblebee and Hubcap (esp. w. the Su design for Bee...though the brand-new design in this comic also makes him a distinct bot), who have long been separate characters.

Having read the issue, I like that Wheeljack and Ratchet tend to view this new upgrade of 'Bee's as a mistake, and a sign of his not staying himself, instead of being agog at how cool he looks.

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Posted 11 March 2010 - 11:53 PM

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Heck, Bumblebee and Goldbug have more different-looking bot modes


But they have the same head, transformation, and altmode!

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Posted 12 March 2010 - 12:26 AM

Well, yeah, but G1 Bumblebee is rarely depicted with the toy-accurate head that he shares with Goldbug. Plus, I feel that the different transformation of the rear of the car differentiates them by virtue of Goldbug having the back end of the car magically turn into a rectangle behind his head. Also, Goldbug had a much more rectangular character model, with sharper edges (For instance in the shape of the shoulders and in the torso), Bumblebee a more rounded and basic one. I dunno...I know that Hubcap is a different guy than Bumblebee, who happens to share the same transformation, but I can't help but feel like he's Bumblebee with an orange face and a slightly different chest and head design.

Round vs. boxy:
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http://tfwiki.net/wi...dbugthecure.jpg

(Geez, G1 Bee needs to lay off the ro-nuts....)

Also, in the current comics, Bumblebee tends to have the hood on his chest, door wings, etc. (I consider the Bumblebee pictured in this series up till just before the end of issue 4 to be sort of an aberration, i.e. he didn't really look like that but for artist's interpretation. I mean, even Ratchet in this mini was an interpretation of Su's design, as Don's versions often tend to be, so drawing the Bee G1-style was just a little odd.). Whereas Goldbug is a teched-up version of his original character model with a Cybertronian alt mode.

Then again, I always preferred Goldbug. Apparently I was the type of kid Hasbro was looking for. Hey, Prime's dead! Aw...wow, Rodimus! Awesome!

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Posted 12 March 2010 - 08:58 AM

I enjoyed this issue, it was a satisfacotry, and bittersweet ending to the mini series.

Bumblebee better watch out though, you never know when Ratchet may decide to rebuild him back into his old body! icon-arcee.gif

Edited by Monocle, 12 March 2010 - 08:58 AM.