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@  Kalidor : (22 July 2017 - 09:45 PM)

I think the official meaning is that a namesake is the person or thing that is named after something else. So the USS Kalidor would be Kalidor's namesake

@  Pennpenn : (22 July 2017 - 08:30 PM)

I thought it was either?

@  SHIELD Agent 47 : (22 July 2017 - 08:27 PM)

It is very irritating that no one seems to agree on whether the word "namesake" refers to the thing that came first or the thing that came second.

@  2017 : (22 July 2017 - 07:19 PM)

I'd like it, but I really don't have the cash or the justification.

@  Paladin : (22 July 2017 - 02:48 PM)

Anyone still need a Chaos on Velocitron set? Found one at TRU today...

@  TheMightyMol... : (22 July 2017 - 01:27 PM)

He REALLY likes blowing stuff up.

@  Dekafox : (22 July 2017 - 12:42 PM)

G1 Scattershot's 3rd mode gimmick?

@  MEDdMI : (22 July 2017 - 12:04 PM)

Nothing can be more awkward than the crotch rubsigns.

@  Bass X0 : (22 July 2017 - 11:28 AM)

well, they had to go somewhere.

@  Pennpenn : (22 July 2017 - 02:54 AM)

TR Quake's shoulder symbols are very awkward looking

@  Kalidor : (21 July 2017 - 10:58 PM)

..er myself.

@  Kalidor : (21 July 2017 - 10:58 PM)

NOT RESPONDING

@  Kalidor : (21 July 2017 - 10:58 PM)

...

@  Kalidor : (21 July 2017 - 10:58 PM)

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@  Kalidor : (21 July 2017 - 10:58 PM)

Couldn't say it bett.....

@  Steevy Maximus : (21 July 2017 - 10:33 PM)

You just don't appreciate the speed of a solid state drive until you have to use an old laptop with an old spinning drive

@  Patchouli Kn... : (21 July 2017 - 08:32 PM)

If there's at least one, you can army-build.

@  NotVeryKnightly : (21 July 2017 - 07:25 PM)

Are there even enough toys of him to collect?

@  TheMightyMol... : (21 July 2017 - 04:21 PM)

A nerd.

@  Nevermore : (21 July 2017 - 04:19 PM)

Speaking of, what do you call someone who collects toys of the Marvel character The Collector?

@  Nevermore : (21 July 2017 - 04:18 PM)

What about people who collect the "Die Hard" movies?

@  wonko the sane? : (21 July 2017 - 03:54 PM)

A lot of the die hard collectors don't need to be louder...

@  SHIELD Agent 47 : (21 July 2017 - 03:22 PM)

@Nevermore Benbot means "amped" as in excited. I believe the term is shorthand for (a sound) amplifier.

@  Nevermore : (21 July 2017 - 03:10 PM)

Or is "shorthand" a synonym for "amputated"?

@  Nevermore : (21 July 2017 - 03:10 PM)

Is "amped" shorthand for "amputated"?

@  Benbot : (21 July 2017 - 12:28 PM)

I am amped! But I also have standards.

@  Fear or Courage : (21 July 2017 - 08:38 AM)

I consider Thew to basically be the model toy collector. We should all aim to be so amped about the thing we collect.

@  Pennpenn : (21 July 2017 - 07:21 AM)

And some people are just whiny jerks who like to complain about stuff and don't realise that, so will invent irrational grievances to fuel that need.

@  Rycochet : (21 July 2017 - 06:13 AM)

A lot of toy collectors don't seem to get that the things the collect are toys.and have unrealistic expectations of what's doable in a modern retail environment. You're not going to get a $100 figure's worth of parts and paint for $20 or less and gimmicks are needed tomake the toys actually, you know, fun.

@  Foffy : (20 July 2017 - 09:40 PM)

Not necessarily. With the right condiments, they can taste surprisingly nice.

@  Evac : (20 July 2017 - 09:37 PM)

I think most toy collectors are bitter in some form.

@  Diecast : (20 July 2017 - 09:37 PM)

...or maybe I'm the bitter one?!  Oh no.

@  Diecast : (20 July 2017 - 09:32 PM)

And I don't even mean that everyone should love it all. But it does seem to bring the angrier ones in from the lurking.

@  Diecast : (20 July 2017 - 09:29 PM)

It's these reveals that always remind me how exceptionally bitter a large portion of toy collectors are on other forums.

@  Sean Whitmore : (20 July 2017 - 07:06 PM)

SDCC toy reveals make adults happy by telling them what they can get eventually. Kids don't care what they can get eventually, you make them happy by getting them whatever's available now.

@  Jalaguy : (20 July 2017 - 06:10 PM)

They exist, they just don't show them at SDCC because they assume that the adult fanbase doesn't care about them.

@  Steevy Maximus : (20 July 2017 - 06:03 PM)

On SDCC stuff...I'm disappointed, but not surprised, at the lack of the actual KIDS toys among all the toys for us old men

@  Steevy Maximus : (20 July 2017 - 04:15 PM)

:burn

@  Steevy Maximus : (20 July 2017 - 04:15 PM)

SSA response? "How would we know to un enroll you if you don't tell us?"

@  Steevy Maximus : (20 July 2017 - 04:14 PM)

I'm supposed to un-enrolled in Medicare at the end of the month (36 months post-transplant), but I'm getting a bill for next quarter's coverage.

@  Steevy Maximus : (20 July 2017 - 04:14 PM)

I would LOVE to have ONE THING done correctly and promptly by the Social Security Administration

@  Ms Virion : (20 July 2017 - 02:22 PM)

=(

@  SHIELD Agent 47 : (20 July 2017 - 01:43 PM)

Noooo!!!!!

@  Paladin : (20 July 2017 - 01:39 PM)

well shit... https://uk.style.yah...-182818808.html

@  Kalidor : (19 July 2017 - 08:46 PM)

https://www.allspark...rive-questions/

@  wonko the sane? : (19 July 2017 - 07:53 PM)

So good it'll whack you in the lobanza.

@  Bass X0 : (19 July 2017 - 06:12 PM)

mafiace cream?

@  Bass X0 : (19 July 2017 - 04:49 PM)

adios mafia.

@  Patchouli Kn... : (19 July 2017 - 03:26 PM)

for ice cream

@  MEDdMI : (19 July 2017 - 02:52 PM)

But he must scream.


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#661 mx-01 archon

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Posted 02 March 2010 - 06:03 PM

Yikes at the original Predacon heads. Poor Tantrum looks to have a sticker for a face. Interestingly, it looks like Razorclaw's head might have been planned to transform into Predaking's. Either that, or it's just badly mistransformed.

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Posted 02 March 2010 - 06:35 PM

We've known about Razorclaw's transforming head since Kyde dropped that fact right after the patent was found. Where are you seeing this exactly, though?

Oh, the Euro catalog. Duh.

Edited by Spark, 02 March 2010 - 06:39 PM.

Fall of Cybertron will blow your mind. That is all.

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Posted 02 March 2010 - 06:41 PM

Must've missed that one.

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Posted 02 March 2010 - 06:55 PM

Whoa, I never knew that Broadside's alternate character model was based on an alternate version of the *toy*! Always figured it was wildly differing artistic interpretation of the base figure that saw retail.

Edited by Moroboshi Ataru, 02 March 2010 - 06:55 PM.


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Posted 02 March 2010 - 08:21 PM

QUOTE(FortMax @ Mar 2 2010, 04:47 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Right. The '85 Minibots were already out.


Also: Monzo to the rescue!

Monzo OWNS that? And it's official rather than a custom? That is VERY pink. Not even the magenta that I'm used to.

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That is the Eightiesest color scheme and I wish we'd gotten it.

"You'd better stay close to me!"
"No, you'd better stay close to ME... bitch."
(not that there's anything wrong with men wearing pink...)
they both had similar heads too... @_@; Maybe Hot Rod turning to more of a red was to differentiate the two of them.

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Posted 02 March 2010 - 08:26 PM

QUOTE(Spark @ Mar 2 2010, 06:35 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
We've known about Razorclaw's transforming head since Kyde dropped that fact right after the patent was found. Where are you seeing this exactly, though?

Oh, the Euro catalog. Duh.

What Euro catalog?

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Posted 02 March 2010 - 08:42 PM

Hey everyone, I have some interesting information to share with you about the history of this particular catalog. I emailed the eBay seller to let them know about the community effort here as well as the charity drive, since I thought they might like to know about what their catalog sparked. Below is the response I received, which not only expresses their thoughts about all that, but shares some really interesting history about the catalog. Bear in mind it's all on their say-so, but I think it makes a lot of sense given some of the questions raised by this particular catalog, so this is the full email:
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Oh WOW! We truly had no idea! Thank you so much for sending us that link and letting us know that the efforts to raise the funds for the catalog turned into such a charitable event to help. That's truly remarkable.

Now, to make it more special we'll tell you a little more about our findings in our research for this catalog. We had shared this with a few people who contacted us for a little back history on it.

We had hung onto it thinking it was something special for that special collector after learning of it's limited printing by Hasbro this particular year. Hasbro was very secretive this particular year because of all the NEW Transformers, G.I.Joe items and the release of JEM, which many thought would have been in this catalog but Hasbro pulled a fast one to keep her undercover until she was showcased at the actual ToyFair in 1986. Hasbro employees we talked to, who worked there during this time, have said that this catalog was only produced in an effort make Mattel think that they had changed their mind not to release JEM, who was direct competition for Barbie, after an undercover employee from Mattel working at Hasbro discovered they were developing JEM. It was this effort by Hasbro to produce this pre toy fari catalog as a 'smoke screen' of sorts that resulted in their showcasing so many rare Transformer and G.I.Joe prototypes. When we showed a couple of Hasbro employees the catalog they went 'Holy Cow. Do yo know why that was actually produced the way it was?' And continued to tell us about JEM and then about how rarely seen the prototypes of Transformers and G.I.Joe were in it because of it.

So, who would have ever thought that JEM would have resulted in the production of these pre toy fair catalogs like this, and given fans a chance to see such rare prototypes for the Transformer and G.I.Joe toylines?

They Hasbro employees we talked to said they were surprised to even see one of these surface because of the very limited number that was produced of them. They focused more on printing a massive number of the actual 1986 Toy Fair catalog to let everyone on earth know about JEM and their launch of the toyline to go along with their cartoon release, etc. They really wanted to smash Barbie, but alas was unsuccessful. icon-screamer.gif But a great effort on Hasbro's part.

We hope your community truly enjoys the catalog, and shares it with everyone.

We are also so happy now to have learned it turned into something that has become so helpful for others. Please thank your community for us and tell them this has truly made our day! Heck our year! icon-hotrod.gif

Stay Outrageous!

Edited by Galenraff, 02 March 2010 - 08:43 PM.

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Posted 02 March 2010 - 08:52 PM

Now that is a truly awesome way to cap off this fantastic event.

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Posted 02 March 2010 - 09:18 PM

That is awesome. I wonder how the real catalogue varied beyond having JEM in it.

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Posted 02 March 2010 - 09:51 PM

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QUOTE(Big Show @ Mar 2 2010, 11:57 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Yes. Yes we do.

And thank you for reminding me again what I hate about the fandom so soon after reminding me what I love about it. icon-ironhide.gif Balance in life and all that, I guess.

QUOTE(Big Show @ Mar 2 2010, 11:57 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
And as for the hotlinking, Seibertron isn't new to the game. They know damn well that it is a common courtesy to host the images on their own, rather than soak up the bandwidth of the wiki.

I'd still rather PM and give them a chance to take it down first, then only "retaliate" if they don't. Especially since the whole reason it was newsed in the first place was because I made an announcement post hoping they would to promote the matter. Especially since the moderator in question, you know, donated some of his own money to the charity, too.

But whatever, I guess. Sorry for preferring to take the polite route first before escalating. Guess that'll learn me. icon-primal.gif


The polite way would have been the appropriate way to go as well as someone contacting myself, the site's owner. The Allspark's owner is a really nice guy and I would never dare dream doing that to him or to any other site owner.

I'm sorry if hotlinking an image from tfwiki caused anyone server issues. It is frustrating as a website owner that some website's don't want you to take their images while other sites don't want you to hotlink their images. While I understand the frustration of what happens when images are hotlinked back at least 5 years ago, most server companies have either lifted bandwidth restrictions or they now provide you with at least 3,000 to 5,000+ GB of bandwidth that's a non-issue. I have a few suggestions that might help the owner of tfwiki.net regarding bandwidth issues if they would contact me. As you can imagine, bandwidth issues have been no stranger to Seibertron.com over the past 10 years.

I have sent a message to Walky asking for him to contact me to work things out so that this situation can be avoided in the future. No ill will was intended by posting the images in our news section. Swapping an image out with an image that contains offensive and inappropriate language is not right nor is it fair to people on Seibertron.com, especially when someone should've contacted myself or the entire staff via the "Contact Us" form on Seibertron.com or sent an email to news@seibertron.com or staff@seibertron.com.

Edit: Walky contacted me and apologized. I provided him with some code to prevent hotlinking images in the future via an htaccess file. Hopefully they'll update their htaccess file so that bandwidth concerns like this won't be an issue for them in the future.

Edited by Seibertron, 02 March 2010 - 10:27 PM.


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Posted 02 March 2010 - 10:04 PM

This was quite the accomplishment of this community and should be very proud of themselves especially during a time that is hard financially for so many Congrats!!!!! icon-hotrod.gif

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Posted 02 March 2010 - 11:05 PM

QUOTE(Seibertron @ Mar 2 2010, 08:51 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
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Yes. Yes we do.

And thank you for reminding me again what I hate about the fandom so soon after reminding me what I love about it. icon-ironhide.gif Balance in life and all that, I guess.

QUOTE(Big Show @ Mar 2 2010, 11:57 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
And as for the hotlinking, Seibertron isn't new to the game. They know damn well that it is a common courtesy to host the images on their own, rather than soak up the bandwidth of the wiki.

I'd still rather PM and give them a chance to take it down first, then only "retaliate" if they don't. Especially since the whole reason it was newsed in the first place was because I made an announcement post hoping they would to promote the matter. Especially since the moderator in question, you know, donated some of his own money to the charity, too.

But whatever, I guess. Sorry for preferring to take the polite route first before escalating. Guess that'll learn me. icon-primal.gif


The polite way would have been the appropriate way to go as well as someone contacting myself, the site's owner. The Allspark's owner is a really nice guy and I would never dare dream doing that to him or to any other site owner.

I'm sorry if hotlinking an image from tfwiki caused anyone server issues. It is frustrating as a website owner that some website's don't want you to take their images while other sites don't want you to hotlink their images. While I understand the frustration of what happens when images are hotlinked back at least 5 years ago, most server companies have either lifted bandwidth restrictions or they now provide you with at least 3,000 to 5,000+ GB of bandwidth that's a non-issue. I have a few suggestions that might help the owner of tfwiki.net regarding bandwidth issues if they would contact me. As you can imagine, bandwidth issues have been no stranger to Seibertron.com over the past 10 years.

I have sent a message to Walky asking for him to contact me to work things out so that this situation can be avoided in the future. No ill will was intended by posting the images in our news section. Swapping an image out with an image that contains offensive and inappropriate language is not right nor is it fair to people on Seibertron.com, especially when someone should've contacted myself or the entire staff via the "Contact Us" form on Seibertron.com or sent an email to news@seibertron.com or staff@seibertron.com.

Edit: Walky contacted me and apologized. I provided him with some code to prevent hotlinking images in the future via an htaccess file. Hopefully they'll update their htaccess file so that bandwidth concerns like this won't be an issue for them in the future.

Okay, awesome. icon-ironhide.gif I'm glad everyone was able to handle it appropriately in the end, despite some hiccups at the beginning.

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Posted 02 March 2010 - 11:17 PM

EFF YEAH, RESOLUTION!
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EFF YEAH, RESOLUTION!

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Posted 02 March 2010 - 11:57 PM

Truly, truly outrageous!

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Posted 03 March 2010 - 02:11 AM

PLEASE NOTE:

What transpired with the Hot-Linking was between Seibertron and TFWiki. It has now been resolved by those who were affected by it and we will no longer host anymore comments in this thread relating to it. It does not involve the Allspark.com nor should ongoing conversation sully the great joint effort of all of us and the various websites who participated in this Toyfair book purchase or the much larger Charity drive.

Thank you

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Posted 03 March 2010 - 03:27 AM

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QUOTE(Jeysie @ Mar 2 2010, 12:02 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I'd still rather PM and give them a chance to take it down first, then only "retaliate" if they don't.


Kiss Players would be retaliation. hug Yeah Seacons is ribbing.


This. Chill pill, folks! Well, folk.


I just clicked from page 24 as it says in the title, and clicked on the link to the first page of the scan, only to get the hug YEAH! SEACONS!




A tad confusing icon-wildride.gif

EDIT: Posted to nudge someone to maybe update the link on page 24 for the first catalogue scan ;)

Edited by Mecha KJ, 03 March 2010 - 03:37 AM.


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Posted 03 March 2010 - 03:52 AM

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I just clicked from page 24 as it says in the title, and clicked on the link to the first page of the scan, only to get the hug YEAH! SEACONS!




A tad confusing icon-wildride.gif

EDIT: Posted to nudge someone to maybe update the link on page 24 for the first catalogue scan icon-arcee.gif

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Posted 03 March 2010 - 04:39 AM

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I guess this explains why Hot Rod showed up in the cartoon and comics half the time as pink instead of red.


If by "half the time" you mean "all the time" because that's the colour HE WAS SUPPOSED TO BE GODAMMIT TAKARA GIVE ME MY PINK HOT ROD I WANT IT.

After seeing it I think they made the right choice changing hs colours, but dammedif I don't still want a movie accurate one.
Also Dead End, Brawl and others are much more toon accurate. Want!

QUOTE(Blueshift @ Mar 2 2010, 10:43 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
This is amazing! Looks like the Decepticon plane picture is the same one used in the Europe 'Ultimate Battle' catalogue, at a far better resolution of course. The Autobot cars picture isn't the same one, but the Hot Rod and Blurr look the same, it may have been the same photo session.

I did the grey Runamuck/bout/whatever ;v

Yeh I noticed that too, used to pore over those pics as a kid after all. icon-fire.gif

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Posted 03 March 2010 - 04:40 AM

I can't get the scan of the front of the catalogue to upload, its too big, I'll see if I can get onto my photobucket account....

Edit - Gottit! Not big images at all though. Photobucket seems to resize them.
UK cat scan page 2
UK cat scan page 1
I always thought it loked like Magnus was originally meant to be leader (it actually calls him that here), but they made Rodimus Prime as a last minute change so that the movie could be more like Star Wars with a teenage protaganist that deveops into a leader.

I wonder why they didn't think to just make Ultra Magnus an upgrade for Prime so kids would want the new version? Perhaps they thought kids would only want one toy of each character.

Edited by BlitzwingHaz, 03 March 2010 - 04:57 AM.