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@  Benbot : (18 November 2019 - 04:01 PM)

And a good boy

@  Liege : (18 November 2019 - 09:19 AM)

Hound is at least a very good toy.

@  ThunderWear : (18 November 2019 - 09:11 AM)

Hound is the only other one that even comes close to Chromia in my area, and he ships in two separate waves.

@  Liege : (18 November 2019 - 08:58 AM)

This might be how they finally get rid of all the Chromias. I've not seen a shelfwarmer like that in ages.

@  RichardT1977 : (17 November 2019 - 08:26 PM)

It's a good deal if you want a full set of Refraktor (and if they have them at your location)

@  TheMightyMol... : (17 November 2019 - 04:43 PM)

Here we can buy two and get one free, but at least two of them are gonna be the same toy, because lol distribution.

@  Bass X0 : (17 November 2019 - 01:01 PM)

In the U.K., it’s more like you but two, you only get one given how expensive they are.

@  RichardT1977 : (17 November 2019 - 11:38 AM)

Transformers are Buy 2 Get 1 free at Target this week.

@  Bass X0 : (17 November 2019 - 04:29 AM)

2019 has been one long South Park episode.

@  Sjogre : (16 November 2019 - 10:46 PM)

Okay, that actually sounds pretty fun.

@  Maximus Ambus : (15 November 2019 - 12:49 PM)

It was set in the forties, featured Nazi's as the villains and had Kiko fight mostly Ice Age animals and a mythical dragon that now ruled the island guarding Kongs treasure.

@  Paladin : (15 November 2019 - 11:37 AM)

and it was ALSO eleven hours long.

@  Maximus Ambus : (15 November 2019 - 10:55 AM)

In a alternate reality Peter Jackson made Son of Kong.

@  wonko the sane? : (15 November 2019 - 09:30 AM)

To be fair to boba: everyone else to go into the sarlacc was a sacrifice. Stripped almost naked and tossed, and didn't have body armor, a jetpack and a weapon.

@  TheMightyMol... : (15 November 2019 - 06:54 AM)

Nah, he just has to keep up his plot insurance payments so he can shoot his way out of the Sarlacc again.

@  PlutoniumBoss : (15 November 2019 - 02:59 AM)

Funny, but everyone knows he bounty hunts for Jabba Hutt to finance his 'Vette.

@  Tm_Silverclaw : (15 November 2019 - 02:54 AM)

Okay.. Not sure why.. but streaming is harder than jsut playing the game.. even though that's pretty much what I was doing.

@  Xellos : (14 November 2019 - 06:47 PM)

What type of vehicle does Boba Fett use for time travel? A Man-DeLorean.

@  TM2-Megatron : (14 November 2019 - 03:55 PM)

Admittedly, it's been a long time since I've been to a walk-in clinic, as I tend not to get sick (and the one time I do every 4-5 years, I prefer just riding it out at home), but the last time I went I'm pretty sure you could just show up, no appointment. It may be different in Quebec,though

@  Nevermore : (14 November 2019 - 02:36 PM)

One thing to note about health insurance in Germany is that we have a two-class system: mandatory health insurance is basically the economy class, while private health insurance is the business class.

@  Nevermore : (14 November 2019 - 02:32 PM)

My local doctor is actually a shared office with several doctors where you will get randomly assigned to one of the doctors available that day.

@  Nevermore : (14 November 2019 - 02:30 PM)

Also, employers are required by law to cover part of their employees' health insurance fees, so I only have to pay my part.

@  Nevermore : (14 November 2019 - 02:28 PM)

Basic examinations and sick notes (known as "work-inability certificates" in Germany) for the employer are covered by our health insurances by default.

@  TheMightyMol... : (14 November 2019 - 12:02 PM)

Around here, we can go to a walk-in clinic whenever, but might have to wait in the queue until there's a doctor available, which can take hours on a busy day. And then hope our insurance will cover anything.

@  wonko the sane? : (14 November 2019 - 07:38 AM)

There actually are a good number of clinics around here: but the walk ins require an appointment (what?) and are only done once a week. IF you can get an appointment, you see a doctor usually within 40 minutes, but good luck getting the appointment.

@  Nevermore : (14 November 2019 - 03:35 AM)

Depending on the day.

@  Nevermore : (14 November 2019 - 03:35 AM)

We have family doctors (called "house doctors") with regular office hours where you may need an hour or two of waiting time.

@  TM2-Megatron : (14 November 2019 - 12:50 AM)

Two weeks? That seems a little long; are there not a lot of walk-in clinics around you?

@  wonko the sane? : (13 November 2019 - 07:01 PM)

Does germany make it quick and easy to see a doctor too? Cause an emergency doctor visit can take two weeks out here, and an emergency ROOM visit can take 18-24 hours.

@  Nevermore : (13 November 2019 - 06:43 PM)

(Good thing is, under German law, if you call in sick during your vacation and see a doctor immediately, you get to keep your vacation days.)

@  Nevermore : (13 November 2019 - 06:42 PM)

Too bad. My plans wee to do two more overtime hours before having my last day of vacation for the year on Friday. Oh well.

@  Nevermore : (13 November 2019 - 06:41 PM)

So I'm currently on medical leave for a particularly stupid reason: Burned my back with a hot-water bag while sleeping last night. Though the doctor said I'm hardly the first person to have this happen to them.

@  Patch : (13 November 2019 - 06:11 PM)

Just a particularly odious example of the 90s era of depicting transgender women as either the subject of crude humor, or "Jerry Springer" material.

@  Ashley : (13 November 2019 - 04:55 PM)

I think Ace Ventura legit contributed to me spending years in self denial. I will never be ok with Jim Carrey.

@  Benbot : (13 November 2019 - 01:22 PM)

I thought he since changed his tune.

@  Tm_Silverclaw : (13 November 2019 - 12:51 PM)

Jim Carry Paladin?

@  Maximus Ambus : (13 November 2019 - 12:22 PM)

Don't doubt what he can do. Sonic the Hedgehog!

@  Paladin : (13 November 2019 - 11:51 AM)

not giving a dime to a transphobic antivaxxer.

@  wonko the sane? : (13 November 2019 - 11:25 AM)

It'll be a terrible movie if jim carrey phones it in. Otherwise it should be decent.

@  Paladin : (13 November 2019 - 10:45 AM)

sonics' still gonna be a terrible movie but at least they whined loud enough to make him look passable for a 2-minute trailer. "yay."

@  ▲ndrusi : (13 November 2019 - 10:37 AM)

But of course to annoying people there's no such thing as different decisions made for different reasons, there is only "I like it so it's right" and "I don't like it so it's wrong."

@  ▲ndrusi : (13 November 2019 - 10:35 AM)

Even if we pretend it's objective truth that they were both bad, then they were bad in very different ways.

@  ▲ndrusi : (13 November 2019 - 10:33 AM)

Sonic's previous movie design looked genuinely bad. The Transformers '07 designs just looked insufficiently like what certain loud and obnoxious parts of the fandom think Transformers are required to always look like.

@  Otaku : (13 November 2019 - 08:50 AM)

Um... Purple Monkey Dishwasher?

@  TheMightyMol... : (13 November 2019 - 08:25 AM)

Do we really need to have Every Movie Transformer Thread Ever in the Squawkbox?

@  Bass X0 : (13 November 2019 - 08:13 AM)

Sure it made money but that doesn’t mean it has appealing character designs. Lot of god awful fugly faces in the Transformers movies.

@  Otaku : (12 November 2019 - 08:25 PM)

@Liege My issue with Transformers (2007) were elements I thought were unnecessary.  I know it was supposed to just be a joke, but I didn't ever need to hear about "Sam's Happy Time". >.> Which, being in awe of the first "live action" TF-film, didn't even register until I'd already purchased and watched it on DVD a few times (after seeing it in theaters 3 times).

@  Liege : (12 November 2019 - 08:22 PM)

For all the Bayisms in the 07 movie, it was tempered by Spielberg as producer. Designs aside it was an enjoyable popcorn blockbuster about a boy and his first car who happens to be an alien from another planet. They sequels are just Bay going unchecked after he proved how much bank he could bring in.

@  TM2-Megatron : (12 November 2019 - 07:12 PM)

I didn't find the designs in the '07 movie to be that bad, personally. What got really offputting was how Cybertronians in general become such huge a-holes in the later films; the designs were very much secondary to their horrible personalities

@  Sabrblade : (12 November 2019 - 06:59 PM)

And yet, Transformers still broke the bank at the box office, opened up the brand to a whole new generation of fans, shot the brand up to mainstream appeal, and enabled all kinds of new collector-oriented lines and other avenues to come about. Not saying Sonic's movie will do the same for his series, but the 2007 TF movie certainly did more good than harm.


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#661 mx-01 archon

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Posted 02 March 2010 - 06:03 PM

Yikes at the original Predacon heads. Poor Tantrum looks to have a sticker for a face. Interestingly, it looks like Razorclaw's head might have been planned to transform into Predaking's. Either that, or it's just badly mistransformed.

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Posted 02 March 2010 - 06:35 PM

We've known about Razorclaw's transforming head since Kyde dropped that fact right after the patent was found. Where are you seeing this exactly, though?

Oh, the Euro catalog. Duh.

Edited by Spark, 02 March 2010 - 06:39 PM.

Fall of Cybertron will blow your mind. That is all.

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Posted 02 March 2010 - 06:41 PM

Must've missed that one.

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Posted 02 March 2010 - 06:55 PM

Whoa, I never knew that Broadside's alternate character model was based on an alternate version of the *toy*! Always figured it was wildly differing artistic interpretation of the base figure that saw retail.

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Posted 02 March 2010 - 08:21 PM

QUOTE(FortMax @ Mar 2 2010, 04:47 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Right. The '85 Minibots were already out.


Also: Monzo to the rescue!

Monzo OWNS that? And it's official rather than a custom? That is VERY pink. Not even the magenta that I'm used to.

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That is the Eightiesest color scheme and I wish we'd gotten it.

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(not that there's anything wrong with men wearing pink...)
they both had similar heads too... @[email protected]; Maybe Hot Rod turning to more of a red was to differentiate the two of them.

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Posted 02 March 2010 - 08:26 PM

QUOTE(Spark @ Mar 2 2010, 06:35 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
We've known about Razorclaw's transforming head since Kyde dropped that fact right after the patent was found. Where are you seeing this exactly, though?

Oh, the Euro catalog. Duh.

What Euro catalog?

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Posted 02 March 2010 - 08:42 PM

Hey everyone, I have some interesting information to share with you about the history of this particular catalog. I emailed the eBay seller to let them know about the community effort here as well as the charity drive, since I thought they might like to know about what their catalog sparked. Below is the response I received, which not only expresses their thoughts about all that, but shares some really interesting history about the catalog. Bear in mind it's all on their say-so, but I think it makes a lot of sense given some of the questions raised by this particular catalog, so this is the full email:
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Oh WOW! We truly had no idea! Thank you so much for sending us that link and letting us know that the efforts to raise the funds for the catalog turned into such a charitable event to help. That's truly remarkable.

Now, to make it more special we'll tell you a little more about our findings in our research for this catalog. We had shared this with a few people who contacted us for a little back history on it.

We had hung onto it thinking it was something special for that special collector after learning of it's limited printing by Hasbro this particular year. Hasbro was very secretive this particular year because of all the NEW Transformers, G.I.Joe items and the release of JEM, which many thought would have been in this catalog but Hasbro pulled a fast one to keep her undercover until she was showcased at the actual ToyFair in 1986. Hasbro employees we talked to, who worked there during this time, have said that this catalog was only produced in an effort make Mattel think that they had changed their mind not to release JEM, who was direct competition for Barbie, after an undercover employee from Mattel working at Hasbro discovered they were developing JEM. It was this effort by Hasbro to produce this pre toy fari catalog as a 'smoke screen' of sorts that resulted in their showcasing so many rare Transformer and G.I.Joe prototypes. When we showed a couple of Hasbro employees the catalog they went 'Holy Cow. Do yo know why that was actually produced the way it was?' And continued to tell us about JEM and then about how rarely seen the prototypes of Transformers and G.I.Joe were in it because of it.

So, who would have ever thought that JEM would have resulted in the production of these pre toy fair catalogs like this, and given fans a chance to see such rare prototypes for the Transformer and G.I.Joe toylines?

They Hasbro employees we talked to said they were surprised to even see one of these surface because of the very limited number that was produced of them. They focused more on printing a massive number of the actual 1986 Toy Fair catalog to let everyone on earth know about JEM and their launch of the toyline to go along with their cartoon release, etc. They really wanted to smash Barbie, but alas was unsuccessful. icon-screamer.gif But a great effort on Hasbro's part.

We hope your community truly enjoys the catalog, and shares it with everyone.

We are also so happy now to have learned it turned into something that has become so helpful for others. Please thank your community for us and tell them this has truly made our day! Heck our year! icon-hotrod.gif

Stay Outrageous!

Edited by Galenraff, 02 March 2010 - 08:43 PM.

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Posted 02 March 2010 - 08:52 PM

Now that is a truly awesome way to cap off this fantastic event.

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Posted 02 March 2010 - 09:18 PM

That is awesome. I wonder how the real catalogue varied beyond having JEM in it.

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Posted 02 March 2010 - 09:51 PM

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Yes. Yes we do.

And thank you for reminding me again what I hate about the fandom so soon after reminding me what I love about it. icon-ironhide.gif Balance in life and all that, I guess.

QUOTE(Big Show @ Mar 2 2010, 11:57 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
And as for the hotlinking, Seibertron isn't new to the game. They know damn well that it is a common courtesy to host the images on their own, rather than soak up the bandwidth of the wiki.

I'd still rather PM and give them a chance to take it down first, then only "retaliate" if they don't. Especially since the whole reason it was newsed in the first place was because I made an announcement post hoping they would to promote the matter. Especially since the moderator in question, you know, donated some of his own money to the charity, too.

But whatever, I guess. Sorry for preferring to take the polite route first before escalating. Guess that'll learn me. icon-primal.gif


The polite way would have been the appropriate way to go as well as someone contacting myself, the site's owner. The Allspark's owner is a really nice guy and I would never dare dream doing that to him or to any other site owner.

I'm sorry if hotlinking an image from tfwiki caused anyone server issues. It is frustrating as a website owner that some website's don't want you to take their images while other sites don't want you to hotlink their images. While I understand the frustration of what happens when images are hotlinked back at least 5 years ago, most server companies have either lifted bandwidth restrictions or they now provide you with at least 3,000 to 5,000+ GB of bandwidth that's a non-issue. I have a few suggestions that might help the owner of tfwiki.net regarding bandwidth issues if they would contact me. As you can imagine, bandwidth issues have been no stranger to Seibertron.com over the past 10 years.

I have sent a message to Walky asking for him to contact me to work things out so that this situation can be avoided in the future. No ill will was intended by posting the images in our news section. Swapping an image out with an image that contains offensive and inappropriate language is not right nor is it fair to people on Seibertron.com, especially when someone should've contacted myself or the entire staff via the "Contact Us" form on Seibertron.com or sent an email to [email protected] or [email protected]

Edit: Walky contacted me and apologized. I provided him with some code to prevent hotlinking images in the future via an htaccess file. Hopefully they'll update their htaccess file so that bandwidth concerns like this won't be an issue for them in the future.

Edited by Seibertron, 02 March 2010 - 10:27 PM.


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Posted 02 March 2010 - 10:04 PM

This was quite the accomplishment of this community and should be very proud of themselves especially during a time that is hard financially for so many Congrats!!!!! icon-hotrod.gif

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Posted 02 March 2010 - 11:05 PM

QUOTE(Seibertron @ Mar 2 2010, 08:51 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
QUOTE(Jeysie @ Mar 2 2010, 12:02 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
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Yes. Yes we do.

And thank you for reminding me again what I hate about the fandom so soon after reminding me what I love about it. icon-ironhide.gif Balance in life and all that, I guess.

QUOTE(Big Show @ Mar 2 2010, 11:57 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
And as for the hotlinking, Seibertron isn't new to the game. They know damn well that it is a common courtesy to host the images on their own, rather than soak up the bandwidth of the wiki.

I'd still rather PM and give them a chance to take it down first, then only "retaliate" if they don't. Especially since the whole reason it was newsed in the first place was because I made an announcement post hoping they would to promote the matter. Especially since the moderator in question, you know, donated some of his own money to the charity, too.

But whatever, I guess. Sorry for preferring to take the polite route first before escalating. Guess that'll learn me. icon-primal.gif


The polite way would have been the appropriate way to go as well as someone contacting myself, the site's owner. The Allspark's owner is a really nice guy and I would never dare dream doing that to him or to any other site owner.

I'm sorry if hotlinking an image from tfwiki caused anyone server issues. It is frustrating as a website owner that some website's don't want you to take their images while other sites don't want you to hotlink their images. While I understand the frustration of what happens when images are hotlinked back at least 5 years ago, most server companies have either lifted bandwidth restrictions or they now provide you with at least 3,000 to 5,000+ GB of bandwidth that's a non-issue. I have a few suggestions that might help the owner of tfwiki.net regarding bandwidth issues if they would contact me. As you can imagine, bandwidth issues have been no stranger to Seibertron.com over the past 10 years.

I have sent a message to Walky asking for him to contact me to work things out so that this situation can be avoided in the future. No ill will was intended by posting the images in our news section. Swapping an image out with an image that contains offensive and inappropriate language is not right nor is it fair to people on Seibertron.com, especially when someone should've contacted myself or the entire staff via the "Contact Us" form on Seibertron.com or sent an email to [email protected] or [email protected]

Edit: Walky contacted me and apologized. I provided him with some code to prevent hotlinking images in the future via an htaccess file. Hopefully they'll update their htaccess file so that bandwidth concerns like this won't be an issue for them in the future.

Okay, awesome. icon-ironhide.gif I'm glad everyone was able to handle it appropriately in the end, despite some hiccups at the beginning.

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Posted 02 March 2010 - 11:17 PM

EFF YEAH, RESOLUTION!
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EFF YEAH, RESOLUTION!

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Posted 02 March 2010 - 11:57 PM

Truly, truly outrageous!

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Posted 03 March 2010 - 02:11 AM

PLEASE NOTE:

What transpired with the Hot-Linking was between Seibertron and TFWiki. It has now been resolved by those who were affected by it and we will no longer host anymore comments in this thread relating to it. It does not involve the Allspark.com nor should ongoing conversation sully the great joint effort of all of us and the various websites who participated in this Toyfair book purchase or the much larger Charity drive.

Thank you

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Posted 03 March 2010 - 03:27 AM

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I'd still rather PM and give them a chance to take it down first, then only "retaliate" if they don't.


Kiss Players would be retaliation. hug Yeah Seacons is ribbing.


This. Chill pill, folks! Well, folk.


I just clicked from page 24 as it says in the title, and clicked on the link to the first page of the scan, only to get the hug YEAH! SEACONS!




A tad confusing icon-wildride.gif

EDIT: Posted to nudge someone to maybe update the link on page 24 for the first catalogue scan ;)

Edited by Mecha KJ, 03 March 2010 - 03:37 AM.


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Posted 03 March 2010 - 03:52 AM

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I just clicked from page 24 as it says in the title, and clicked on the link to the first page of the scan, only to get the hug YEAH! SEACONS!




A tad confusing icon-wildride.gif

EDIT: Posted to nudge someone to maybe update the link on page 24 for the first catalogue scan icon-arcee.gif

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Posted 03 March 2010 - 04:39 AM

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I guess this explains why Hot Rod showed up in the cartoon and comics half the time as pink instead of red.


If by "half the time" you mean "all the time" because that's the colour HE WAS SUPPOSED TO BE GODAMMIT TAKARA GIVE ME MY PINK HOT ROD I WANT IT.

After seeing it I think they made the right choice changing hs colours, but dammedif I don't still want a movie accurate one.
Also Dead End, Brawl and others are much more toon accurate. Want!

QUOTE(Blueshift @ Mar 2 2010, 10:43 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
This is amazing! Looks like the Decepticon plane picture is the same one used in the Europe 'Ultimate Battle' catalogue, at a far better resolution of course. The Autobot cars picture isn't the same one, but the Hot Rod and Blurr look the same, it may have been the same photo session.

I did the grey Runamuck/bout/whatever ;v

Yeh I noticed that too, used to pore over those pics as a kid after all. icon-fire.gif

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Posted 03 March 2010 - 04:40 AM

I can't get the scan of the front of the catalogue to upload, its too big, I'll see if I can get onto my photobucket account....

Edit - Gottit! Not big images at all though. Photobucket seems to resize them.
UK cat scan page 2
UK cat scan page 1
I always thought it loked like Magnus was originally meant to be leader (it actually calls him that here), but they made Rodimus Prime as a last minute change so that the movie could be more like Star Wars with a teenage protaganist that deveops into a leader.

I wonder why they didn't think to just make Ultra Magnus an upgrade for Prime so kids would want the new version? Perhaps they thought kids would only want one toy of each character.

Edited by BlitzwingHaz, 03 March 2010 - 04:57 AM.