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@  SHIELD Agent 47 : (23 April 2017 - 08:19 PM)

I'm curious because I'm not an 80s kid nor have I ever held an actual 80s toy in my hands, but I'm pretty sure a mathematically significant portion of 80s kids here do have a like for cartoon accuracy.

@  SHIELD Agent 47 : (23 April 2017 - 08:15 PM)

How much of this community favors versus not favors the current Hasbro design team's general trend of accuracy to classic 1980s toys and lack of attention to any other era of Transformers?

@  Fruitloop Mu... : (23 April 2017 - 07:36 PM)

Telly, ah, got it.

@  Evac : (23 April 2017 - 06:41 PM)

"You can do magic things!" "It's called evil, kid."

@  Foffy : (23 April 2017 - 06:27 PM)

Potatoes don't have ears. That's corn.

@  Telly : (23 April 2017 - 06:27 PM)

little furry potatos

@  Evac : (23 April 2017 - 06:24 PM)

This potato's got big ears...

@  Foffy : (23 April 2017 - 06:18 PM)

The potato rebellion will be swift and brutal.

@  Waspinator : (23 April 2017 - 03:48 PM)

IT'S WATCHING US

@  Telly : (23 April 2017 - 03:34 PM)

yeah, at the time im posting this, theres a "2" next to it and me and fruitloop are shown to be the 2 people reading it

@  Telly : (23 April 2017 - 03:33 PM)

i think it just means that someone is reading the shoutbox

@  Fruitloop Mu... : (23 April 2017 - 03:25 PM)

Re The Rise of Cobra: I like bad movies and action sequences involving elite ninjas, so I watched / fast-forwarded through it on Netflix a couple of years ago.

@  Fruitloop Mu... : (23 April 2017 - 03:23 PM)

Can anyone tell me why the Shoutbox has a notification (a "1") when I login sometimes? I scroll through and don't see anything addressed to me. What does it mean?

@  ▲ndrusi : (23 April 2017 - 01:33 PM)

I miss the 2000s when my local stores got new toys more than once a year.

@  NotVeryKnightly : (23 April 2017 - 01:09 PM)

I mean, it might be hard to not know about something before release at all, but the degree of familiarity that you described is only attainable if you intentionally seek things out.

@  NotVeryKnightly : (23 April 2017 - 12:59 PM)

That's at least partially your own fault. The "in motion" part sounds like you even watched videos, which require conscious effort, unlike pictures that might be hard to even avoid.

@  Bass X0 : (23 April 2017 - 12:22 PM)

I miss the 80s where the first time I ever saw Transformers toys was on the toy shelves and hadn't already saw the toy from every angle and in motion several months beforehand. It made seeing a toy in the store something very special to me that I can't recapture now.

@  Evac : (23 April 2017 - 12:14 PM)

I could see Generations becoming a TRU exclusive line, now that I think about it.

@  Xellos : (23 April 2017 - 12:14 PM)

Also, Generations weathered AOE, and the TLK line seems to be short as well, so I think we'll still be seeing some room for Generations.

@  TheMightyMol... : (23 April 2017 - 12:11 PM)

Titans aren't really wide-released anyway. About the only brick-and-mortar chain to reliably carry them is Toys R Us.

@  NotVeryKnightly : (23 April 2017 - 12:08 PM)

Isn't Trypticon still a long way from now?

@  Evac : (23 April 2017 - 11:57 AM)

They wouldn't let a big-ticket item like that get cancelled.

@  Evac : (23 April 2017 - 11:57 AM)

Counter argument: They still haven't released Trypticon.

@  unluckiness : (23 April 2017 - 09:25 AM)

But yeah, not having any big-name media means it's the most likely, although the premiere series packaging might convince retailers to dedicate more shelf space, kinda like SW Black.

@  unluckiness : (23 April 2017 - 09:24 AM)

I'd expect Generations to be the sacrificial lamb since they can't possibly stock RID any less.

@  RichardT1977 : (23 April 2017 - 09:06 AM)

I'm thinking the subline that doesn't have a movie or TV show will be the one on the cutting board.

@  RichardT1977 : (23 April 2017 - 09:05 AM)

Back to TF toys: the question is whether or not retailers will be willing to commit the peg/shelf space for three sublines. And which one will be sidelined if space is at a premium.

@  unluckiness : (23 April 2017 - 06:28 AM)

No idea.

@  TheMightyMol... : (23 April 2017 - 03:40 AM)

Sometimes the Shoutbox takes a little longer to catch up to a new avatar.

@  NotVeryKnightly : (23 April 2017 - 03:00 AM)

In the Shoutbox I'm seeing the pink thing instead of that guy with the weird eyes.

@  Telly : (23 April 2017 - 02:59 AM)

looks the same to me. maybe it looks different cause its smaller?

@  NotVeryKnightly : (23 April 2017 - 02:57 AM)

@unluckiness why/how is your avatar here different than the one in your profile

@  unluckiness : (23 April 2017 - 02:44 AM)

Revengeance

@  TheMightyMol... : (23 April 2017 - 01:33 AM)

Some people say revenge is sweet. Others say revenge is a dish best served cold. So basically, revenge is ice cream.

@  Verity Carlo : (22 April 2017 - 05:51 PM)

Retribution is fun.

@  LBD "Nyt... : (22 April 2017 - 05:39 PM)

'Sides, we all know the best G.I. Joe movie is Street Fighter, even if people haven't realized it yet.

@  LBD "Nyt... : (22 April 2017 - 05:39 PM)

I thought it was... okay. Okay as a movie, kinda fun, but not quite really feeling the G.I. Joe. I heard the sequel fixed that, but I've yet to see it.

@  Daith : (22 April 2017 - 05:26 PM)

Not sure about others but tried too hard to mainstream the idea to the public, making Baroness and the future Cobra Commander Duke's ex fiance and her brother was stupid and convoluted, and the power armor was a bit dumb

@  SHIELD Agent 47 : (22 April 2017 - 05:14 PM)

What's the general opinion here about G.I. Joe: The Rise of Cobra?

@  BlackMax : (22 April 2017 - 02:55 PM)

In response to whether Arachnid Base or Orcanoch is the weirder.

@  BlackMax : (22 April 2017 - 02:55 PM)

My friend Take: "My vote goes to Spider Volcanobutt."

@  Rycochet : (22 April 2017 - 02:37 PM)

When I find myself in times of trouble, small marsupials come to me. Chattering and hissing, wallabies.

@  Evac : (22 April 2017 - 02:17 PM)

ROCKO'S MODERN LIIIIIIFE

@  Foffy : (22 April 2017 - 02:07 PM)

Did somebody mention wallabies?

@  Telly : (22 April 2017 - 01:38 PM)

"Walls of 'bee". walmart will be changing their name during movie time. they will now be called "walbee"

@  NotVeryKnightly : (22 April 2017 - 12:49 PM)

I'm pretty sure even Hasbro reps have admitted that they went overboard with Bee repaints.

@  Rycochet : (22 April 2017 - 12:34 PM)

Parents/retailers want them, it's cost effective to produce them, therefore they get made. Walls of 'bee may not be what we want to see, but here we are.

@  Bass X0 : (22 April 2017 - 12:29 PM)

That still doesn't justify all the barely repainted Bumblebee and Optimus Prime toys in slightly different shades of their standard color scheme.

@  Rycochet : (22 April 2017 - 12:26 PM)

The movie toylines are a necessary evil at this point, they help us get nice things so I can tolerate them.

@  TheMightyMol... : (22 April 2017 - 12:19 PM)

Eh, I'm more indifferent to the movies than angry.


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#1 Blueshift

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Posted 31 December 2009 - 01:43 PM

I don't usually pick up the Titan Transformers magazine since it is reprints of comics I already own and original comics of Skids and Mudflap. But my attention was piqued when I was told that issue 8 finished off the reprinting of All Hail Megatron.



I thought this was strange since after 8 months they'd only reprinted up to issue 5. It turns out that Titan have completely cut, mangled and CHANGED the plot of AHM to bring it to a screeching halt in just 24 pages. The magazine's editorial promises us an "epic, power-punching ending [as it] rushes head long towards its stunning conclusion".

So uh, what did they DO? Being horribly anal, I have documented the changes below!


Page 1-2 (AHM 6 p 1-2)
Kup and Jazz have a chinwag

Page 3-4 (AHM 6 p 3-4)
Starscream and Megatron have a chinwag

(We now miss out the fight between Skywarp and Bombshell)


page 5-7 (AHM 6 p10-12)
Kup and Jazz continue to chinwag

(We miss the conversation between Ironhide and Roadbuster, the sighting of the Swarm and Perceptor being scary)


Page 8-10 (AHM 6 p18-20)
Megatron and Starscream keep arguing

(We miss the decision to bomb New York and the insecticon creation flashback)


Page 11-17 (AHM 7 p5-11)
Jazz's flashback up until the splash of Megatron taking the Matrix from Prime

(We miss Sideswipe talking to Sunstreaker)


Page 18-20 (AHM 7 p15-17)
Jazz continues his flashback telling of how Prime sacrificed himself to save everyone else.
(We miss Ironhide fighting Mirage. We then miss ALL of issue 8, including Sunstreaker's death! From issue 9 we then miss the humans on Earth chatting to Spike)


Page 21 (AHM 9 p9 (panels 4&7) p15 (panel 2) p 16 (panels 4-6)
In an astonishingly bad piece of editing, Titan have MERGED some of AHMs pages, so that Ratchet enters, tells everyone Prime is about to die, Sideswipe gets angry (with changed dialogue, so that references to Sunstreaker are changed to Prime). Sideswipe now seems to be angry that Prime is definately dead, and makes it sound like Prime committed suicide due to the baffling name changes.


Terrible photo of the terrible new page (I couldn't get it without the lens flare, sorry)

page 22-24 (AHM 9 19-21)
Sideswipe's page of monologuing. Hilariously he talks about Sunstreaker's death here, so we have to assume he died off-panel somewhere.

And then the double-page splash of Optimus Prime returning. Ratchet's diagnosis 2 pages prior seemed a bit pessimistic then.

Then it says THE END!



Oh dear. Oh dear. Titan. What are you playing at? I can kinda see that they might have wanted to rush through the story, or perhaps relaunch the second half as a 'new' story, but then a little box tells us that if we want to read the rest, we need to go to Forbidden Planet and buy the trades.

I used to like Titan as a company, but this is a flabbergastingly bad piece of hack work. The WORST part is, that the Transformers mag, as one sold in supermarkets and newsagents, gets a ridiculously high distribution rate, in the tens of thousands. This is going to be how most people will read this tale!

But hey, free disk launcher!

Edited by Blueshift, 31 December 2009 - 01:59 PM.


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Posted 31 December 2009 - 01:46 PM

wow. just when we believed AHM's pacing and story-telling was as bad as it could get, someone goes out of their way to prove us wrong.

I'm glad I don't get the Titan comics.

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Posted 31 December 2009 - 02:31 PM

Hahahahaha. "Prime's dead because he wanted OUT."

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Posted 31 December 2009 - 02:33 PM

Now I'm wondering where on earth this will go on the wiki!

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Posted 31 December 2009 - 02:34 PM

It's the return of Suicidal Marvel Prime! "Prime's DEAD. He's dead because he lost that video game."

Edited by Moroboshi Ataru, 31 December 2009 - 02:35 PM.


#6 Bass X0

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Posted 31 December 2009 - 02:43 PM

It puts Sideswipe switching off Hunter's life support machine in a new perspective now.

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Posted 31 December 2009 - 03:04 PM

Oh man. Thank you for this, Blueshift. It is through the terrible that we can all find mirth.

I seriously Bwahaha'd at this. Good stuff.

Edited by Sprocket, 31 December 2009 - 03:08 PM.

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#8 Blueshift

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Posted 31 December 2009 - 03:06 PM

QUOTE(Sprocket @ Dec 31 2009, 03:04 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Oh man. Thank you for this, Blueshift. It is through the terrible that we can all find mirth.

I seriously Bwahaha'd at this.


Thanks! Makes it worthwhile that I went out especially in the cold to procure this at a king's ransom of 2.99. That is like, 5 of your colonial dollars!

Edited by Blueshift, 31 December 2009 - 03:07 PM.


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Posted 31 December 2009 - 04:00 PM

I always thought the Titan Magazine was kind of a dumb way to drum up interest for TF's in the UK when there are plenty of more practical solutions, like properly converting the prices of the toys instead of just swapping out the dollar sign for a pound sign, for example.

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Posted 31 December 2009 - 04:05 PM

QUOTE(Madworld @ Dec 31 2009, 09:00 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I always thought the Titan Magazine was kind of a dumb way to drum up interest for TF's in the UK when there are plenty of more practical solutions, like properly converting the prices of the toys instead of just swapping out the dollar sign for a pound sign, for example.


that would be like blaming IDW for poor distribution of the toys and cancelling the Animated TV show.

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Posted 31 December 2009 - 04:17 PM

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there are plenty of more practical solutions, like properly converting the prices of the toys instead of just swapping out the dollar sign for a pound sign, for example.

You realise that different prices for the same item in different parts of the world has to do with a lot more than simple exchange rates, right? Do you think that Burger King or Apple "swaps out the dollar sign for a pound sign" just because they feel like making a bunch more profit?

#12 Blueshift

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Posted 31 December 2009 - 04:36 PM

QUOTE(Professor @ Dec 31 2009, 04:17 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
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there are plenty of more practical solutions, like properly converting the prices of the toys instead of just swapping out the dollar sign for a pound sign, for example.

You realise that different prices for the same item in different parts of the world has to do with a lot more than simple exchange rates, right? Do you think that Burger King or Apple "swaps out the dollar sign for a pound sign" just because they feel like making a bunch more profit?


While I don't want to turn this thread into one about the horrors of Hasbro UK, I'd just like to point out that while some products like ipods ARE more expensive over here, they are not THAT much more expensive, and certainly don't just 'swap the dollar signs for pounds'. Go check on amazon.

Meanwhile Hasbro's new deluxe price over here is around 22.5 dollars.It would be cheaper to import them from America, which would be hilarious if it wasn't so tragic.

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Posted 31 December 2009 - 04:44 PM

i'm on a budget so i may have to import...

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Posted 31 December 2009 - 04:45 PM

QUOTE(Bass X0 @ Dec 31 2009, 05:35 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
that would be like blaming IDW for poor distribution of the toys and cancelling the Animated TV show.

I'm not blaming them for anything, I just think it was dumb of Hasbro UK to put out a Titan Magazine in an attempt to drum up interest in TF's. How many other toylines have an entire magazine dedicated to them?

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Posted 31 December 2009 - 04:50 PM

now, question.

Is this worse than "GET IN THE SHIP" or just about equal?

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Posted 31 December 2009 - 04:51 PM

QUOTE(Madworld @ Dec 31 2009, 04:45 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
QUOTE(Bass X0 @ Dec 31 2009, 05:35 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
that would be like blaming IDW for poor distribution of the toys and cancelling the Animated TV show.

I'm not blaming them for anything, I just think it was dumb of Hasbro UK to put out a Titan Magazine in an attempt to drum up interest in TF's. How many other toylines have an entire magazine dedicated to them?


Titan put out the magazine. They pay Hasbro money to be able to make it.

And obviously there's enough interest since it has been going for nearly 3 years now!

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Posted 31 December 2009 - 04:57 PM

QUOTE(Blueshift @ Dec 31 2009, 04:36 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
QUOTE(Professor @ Dec 31 2009, 04:17 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
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there are plenty of more practical solutions, like properly converting the prices of the toys instead of just swapping out the dollar sign for a pound sign, for example.

You realise that different prices for the same item in different parts of the world has to do with a lot more than simple exchange rates, right? Do you think that Burger King or Apple "swaps out the dollar sign for a pound sign" just because they feel like making a bunch more profit?


While I don't want to turn this thread into one about the horrors of Hasbro UK, I'd just like to point out that while some products like ipods ARE more expensive over here, they are not THAT much more expensive, and certainly don't just 'swap the dollar signs for pounds'. Go check on amazon.

Meanwhile Hasbro's new deluxe price over here is around 22.5 dollars.It would be cheaper to import them from America, which would be hilarious if it wasn't so tragic.


WAH WAH WAH! LOOK AT ME! I'M FROM THE UK AND I THINK PRICES ARE TOO HIGH! WAAAAAAH!!

Get over yourselves, boys.


Now... about this edit. Wow. That's a pretty titanic edit. I've never heard of anything like it. Transformers has had some comic edits over the years that have changed the meaning of things. There's an Australian TPB that re-edits the first four issues of the Marvel comics to completely remove Shockwave and the Dinobots and end on Optimus Prime's victory speech -- and a similar UK edit which actually has new art.

But this... wow. That's like the ULTIMATE studio cut. I wonder if Shane McCarthy knows about this.

Also: Does this mean they TOTALLY destroyed his, "Headmasters are bad!!" thesis?

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(I'm an Aussie, so I have a god-given right to call Brits on their freakin' whining.)

Edited by Boltax, 31 December 2009 - 04:58 PM.


#18 Blueshift

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Posted 31 December 2009 - 05:01 PM

QUOTE(Boltax @ Dec 31 2009, 04:57 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
(I'm an Aussie, so I have a god-given right to call Brits on their freakin' whining.)


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Posted 31 December 2009 - 05:10 PM

"chinwag"?

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Posted 31 December 2009 - 05:25 PM

Yappin' the mouth but nothing important comes out.