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@  Nevermore : (10 August 2020 - 06:48 PM)

Even worse when I can produce those verifiable facts at a later point, and then the other person simply claims the argument was the other way round (as in, I was actually arguing their position and vice versa).

@  Nevermore : (10 August 2020 - 06:47 PM)

I can argue with people about my versus their memory of events when verifiable facts are not readily available, though, and I get really annoyed when I'm capable of presenting a precise, step-by-step summary with multiple key points that can be used for future verification, and the other person just goes "nope, wrong" without going into detail.

@  Nevermore : (10 August 2020 - 06:45 PM)

I forget things, and I misremember things. But when presented with verifiable facts, my reaction is more like "Huh, could have sworn it was like that", not "this reality is not my own".

@  Nevermore : (10 August 2020 - 06:43 PM)

I have an extremely good memory (which I have proven time and again), and even I can be mistaken.

@  NotVeryKnightly : (10 August 2020 - 06:40 PM)

Might be worth pointing out that it only became "Mandela Effect" and not just "I remembered this wrong" when a conspiracy theorist insisted it was proof of alternate timelines.

@  Otaku : (10 August 2020 - 06:29 PM)

Incorrectly remembering Nelson Mandela's fate may be uniquely American... but is it really that strange to get South African political history wrong when you're no where near South Africa?

@  Otaku : (10 August 2020 - 06:29 PM)

I always assumed the Mandela Effect was a "human thing", not an American thing.

@  wonko the sane? : (10 August 2020 - 02:03 PM)

Then there are people who outright manufacture memories for whatever reason.

@  PlutoniumBoss : (10 August 2020 - 01:13 PM)

The human brain is so flaky that it is extremely unlikely that a given person does NOT have any false memories.

@  OverDrive73 : (10 August 2020 - 01:05 PM)

Perhaps it's simple word association the movie Sinbad and then our minds apply the same memories to a man named Sinbad.

@  OverDrive73 : (10 August 2020 - 01:04 PM)

The Mandela Effect is the same as people remembering Sinbad in a movie where he played a genie... Of which he never did.

@  MidnightFox : (10 August 2020 - 09:36 AM)

People that believe Mandela Effect things would rather come up with any number of reasons as to why their version doesn't have any actual evidence(like alternate timelines collapsing into our own) than just admit they remembered something wrong

@  MidnightFox : (10 August 2020 - 09:35 AM)

Sort of. It's more that when presented with a verifiable fact, they double down because it's what they believe instead of changing their minds

@  ▲ndrusi : (10 August 2020 - 09:25 AM)

"I could have sworn that ______."

@  ▲ndrusi : (10 August 2020 - 09:25 AM)

I'm not arguing with either of those two statements, but they're not really connected. Mandela Effect is, to oversimplify, people being widely mistaken about what they think *is* a verifiable fact. Nothing to do with opinions.

@  MidnightFox : (10 August 2020 - 08:52 AM)

Pretty sure the Mandela Effect in general is an American thing. Opinion > Verifiable Facts is sadly a pretty American thing

@  Nevermore : (10 August 2020 - 04:27 AM)

Ask these people how Apartheid ended according to their recollection, and I'm sure they'll draw a blank.

@  Nevermore : (10 August 2020 - 04:25 AM)

You got two black anti-Apartheid activists who were imprisoned by the oppressive regime. One died, the other was Nelson Mandela. It's not a far stretch that Americans who don't know many details about the history of other countries would mix up the two.

@  Nevermore : (10 August 2020 - 04:24 AM)

My own theory is that these people are simply mixing up Nelson Mandela and Steve Biko, another South African anti-Apartheid activist, who did indeed die in police custody in 1977. There was an Oscar-nominated movie about his life starring Denzel Washington that came out in 1987, the same time frame these people claim remembering Mandela dying.

@  Nevermore : (10 August 2020 - 04:17 AM)

I met a few people from South Africa, and they either never heard of the phenomenon at all, or only know of it from the internet. Apparently, it's completely unknown in South Africa, and it might even be entirely limited to the United States.

@  Nevermore : (10 August 2020 - 04:16 AM)

So does anyone remember the "Mandela Effect"? I'm talking specifically about the original case where many people vividly remember Nelson Mandela dying in prison in the 1980s.

@  Tm_Silverclaw : (10 August 2020 - 03:16 AM)

Crisis of Corona.

@  TheMightyMol... : (09 August 2020 - 06:16 PM)

Which crisis crossover are we on now? I lost track.

@  Rycochet : (09 August 2020 - 05:18 PM)

Much of the past decade has been the part of the comic series where less than stellar authors have driven the series into the ground and the editors are getting ready to either do a big multi issue crossover, leading to a reboot.

@  Bass X0 : (09 August 2020 - 02:28 PM)

At this point I've just decided to consider 2020 "not canon."

@  TheMightyMol... : (09 August 2020 - 02:18 PM)

'member Pepperidge Farm?

@  Maximus Ambus : (09 August 2020 - 02:10 PM)

Before the 'member berries there was Pepperidge farm. Pepperidge farm remembers.

@  OverDrive73 : (09 August 2020 - 12:21 PM)

>>>Shameless Plug<<< FYI. posted the last part of Quest for Tires in Allspark Pictures

@  SG Roadbuster : (08 August 2020 - 01:53 PM)

@Nevermore yes.

@  Nevermore : (08 August 2020 - 09:11 AM)

Is $30 a good deal for Subscription Service Breakdown?

@  Trpodeca : (08 August 2020 - 06:24 AM)

Oh dear God no. Twitter has changed it's default layout to the terrible new one. Why waste so much space on the left?

@  Steevy Maximus : (07 August 2020 - 08:28 PM)

@Bass X0, yeah, the Joe comic got REALLY solid in the upper 20s to the Cobra Civil War. It's interesting to see how well the Joe comic has aged relative to the cartoon. Where as I feel the opposite is true of Transformers

@  -LittleAutob... : (07 August 2020 - 03:58 PM)

Its so fun watching past TF Conventions.

@  Bass X0 : (07 August 2020 - 02:20 PM)

I've been reading classic 80s G.I. Joe lately. Its still decent even though I don't have any nostalgia towards it.

@  Sabrblade : (07 August 2020 - 08:50 AM)

Think of it as Adam West Batman instead. ;)

@  wonko the sane? : (07 August 2020 - 07:49 AM)

That sounds more like the flash, or maybe booster gold than batman.

@  Sabrblade : (07 August 2020 - 12:27 AM)

They would get bored fighting each other and instead decide to take an epic cross-country road trip together.

@  RichardT1977 : (06 August 2020 - 08:57 PM)

What would happen if Batman were to fight Squirrel Girl?

@  PlutoniumBoss : (04 August 2020 - 09:03 PM)

Unless you count the Mask vs Lobo special, but that's less a duel and more a duet.

@  PlutoniumBoss : (04 August 2020 - 08:52 PM)

My favorite crossover fight was Thor vs Shazam/Captain Marvel. Early in the fight, Thor discovers that Billy Batson needs lightning to transform, and being a god of lightning he simply denies him that.

@  Sabrblade : (04 August 2020 - 08:46 PM)

Let's see a fight between Death Battle and Super Power Beat Down

@  TheMightyMol... : (04 August 2020 - 06:15 PM)

Which Lobo later claimed was because he was paid to take a dive. Yes, really.

@  TheMightyMol... : (04 August 2020 - 06:15 PM)

And then there's the times it's been decided by a fan vote, which is how we get things like Lobo (who can go toe-to-toe with Superman at full strength) losing to Wolverine.

@  Nevermore : (04 August 2020 - 05:49 PM)

And then there are the "but my favorite characater will totes win because I say so" people.

@  Nevermore : (04 August 2020 - 05:49 PM)

I mean, there are some people who really approach this from a somewhat reasonable standpoint, coming up with a plausible scenario and a setting that creates a fair environment that doesn't favor one character.

@  Nevermore : (04 August 2020 - 05:46 PM)

My favorite stupid "why would they even fight each other" question recently was about three versions of Optimus Prime (G1, Bayverse and Aligned).

@  Nevermore : (04 August 2020 - 05:45 PM)

Batman obviously can beat everyone. Even Galactus. He's Batman. He's so smart, he'll just throw a Batarang and hit the weak spot at Galactus's forehead, knocking him out instantaneously.

@  wonko the sane? : (04 August 2020 - 11:37 AM)

It's almost like all drama is just manufactured pissing contests to keep us all entertained and distracted. :p

@  Tm_Silverclaw : (04 August 2020 - 10:16 AM)

Or they could go White Ranger vs Scorpion route and have both win. ;P

@  ▲ndrusi : (04 August 2020 - 09:35 AM)

Besides, we all know the answer is nearly always "they fight to a standstill and then team up against a common enemy."


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#1981 mx-01 archon

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Posted 11 June 2019 - 03:15 PM

There was a "leak" a week or so back that went into a few details about the game, and said that it ended with Aerith's death in the Forgotten City.



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Posted 11 June 2019 - 09:42 PM

Well, I guess that leak was wrong.


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Posted 12 June 2019 - 12:51 AM

Im very leery of the FF7 remake because long development times, staff changes and ground-up revisions never end well.

Also FF7 wasnt all that good to begin with. fyte me

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Posted 12 June 2019 - 02:46 AM

It wasn't, but it's still Influential.

 

And it lead to the best game in the series, FFIX.


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Posted 12 June 2019 - 06:33 AM

Im very leery of the FF7 remake because long development times, staff changes and ground-up revisions never end well.
Also FF7 wasnt all that good to begin with. fyte me


I'm pretty confident. Fans have been asking for this for a long time. They know the pressure is on to make this perfect. Plus this is just part 1. They want us to buy the next chapters. At this point, I'm sure they'd rather delay it than screw it up.

I get the feeling they'll probably end this in Kalm. We're definitely seeing Neiblheim. That would introduce Sephiroth and should set up the the plot for the next one.
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Posted 12 June 2019 - 03:16 PM

Further in my FF15 report: Well the fight againt Titan and the first summoning of Ramuh are both equally hugging epic.


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Posted 12 June 2019 - 04:55 PM

Yeah, at first I was disappointed by how rare summons were in XV. But then I saw just how epic they were and how much damage they could dish out and...well...it made sense why.
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Posted 13 June 2019 - 12:13 AM

 

They know the pressure is on to make this perfect.

 

Perfect would have been one game.

 

 

They want us to buy the next chapters.

 

Who is this good for aside from Square Enix? I don't think there's never been a piece of media that has benefited from the adaptation splitting it into multiple parts for no reason aside from long-term profits.

 

 

At this point, I'm sure they'd rather delay it than screw it up.

 

I don't think there's ever been an episodic game series that hasn't screwed up at least once by the very nature of being episodic.


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Posted 17 June 2019 - 12:46 PM

So I vastly enjoy and respect 15's attempts to be epic... except for one...  because I think it ends up being TOO epic. The Adamantoise, its sheer size and ridiculous amount of health just makes this battle boring and tedious more then anything. It's not been anywhere near as fun or amazing as other Epic bosses I've come across.


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Posted 17 June 2019 - 03:20 PM

Fastest way I know of to beat adamantoise is to use the Ring of Lucii. Spam the Alterna spell (opens dimensional gate that suck enemies in). I've had it work the first time. I've had times where I've had to spam it for 10+ minutes. But casting Alterna then warping to refill the magic meter is still the fastest way I know of doing it.

Here's a video I made. You may want to skip somewhere closer to the 10 minute mark.


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Posted 17 June 2019 - 03:51 PM

Fastest way I know of to beat adamantoise is to use the Ring of Lucii. Spam the Alterna spell (opens dimensional gate that suck enemies in). I've had it work the first time. I've had times where I've had to spam it for 10+ minutes. But casting Alterna then warping to refill the magic meter is still the fastest way I know of doing it.

Here's a video I made. You may want to skip somewhere closer to the 10 minute mark.

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Yeah, I didn't have that. I did it the hard way because after about 10 minutes it was just, as Galdious likes to say: Kill or be killed. And now I think I'm done with the game for today. Got the achievement and adamtium thing to max out health. Im tired, frustrated, but least its worth it for that reward.

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Posted 17 June 2019 - 04:00 PM

Oh wow! You mean you weren't post game yet? And you still managed it? Dang! What level was your team?
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Posted 17 June 2019 - 05:36 PM

 

 

They know the pressure is on to make this perfect.

 

Perfect would have been one game.

 

 

They want us to buy the next chapters.

 

Who is this good for aside from Square Enix? I don't think there's never been a piece of media that has benefited from the adaptation splitting it into multiple parts for no reason aside from long-term profits.

 

 

At this point, I'm sure they'd rather delay it than screw it up.

 

I don't think there's ever been an episodic game series that hasn't screwed up at least once by the very nature of being episodic.

 

 

The grand scope of this game seems like it's going to be well beyond anything we've seen before.  Releasing it episodically is less risky than trying to go all-in, all-or-nothing.  It's easier to hook us into $80 installments annually or whatever, as opposed to dumping a massive, $250 game on us another five years out.



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Posted 17 June 2019 - 06:13 PM

Just finished World of Final Fantasy.

 

 

That is actually a very under-rated FF game.



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Posted 17 June 2019 - 06:14 PM

Oh wow! You mean you weren't post game yet? And you still managed it? Dang! What level was your team?

 

67-ish. Chapter 9. I did the cursed canvas quest and hunt, went back to turn that in to the magazine guy, when I got there I got the quest introducing the Adamantoise. I finsih that and then get told that Takka has the hunt for it. So I go and accept, thinking that like ANY OTHER hunt I could do it at my leasure. Nope. So decide "what the hell, it'll kill me anyway." Turns out it's overall not really that deadly and rarely ever knocked more then 2 teammates into or past the danger zone,. It does do a shit load of damage and I did run out of my hi-potions and exilers, and hi-exliers, but despite the literal mountain of health it has, its possible to wittle its health down over the course of about 2 hours, not including breaks becuase that is an exhausting fight.


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Posted 17 June 2019 - 08:49 PM

*slow clap*

I was post game and high leveled (I forget how high, but at least high 80's if not 90's. I did it the hard way and it still took hours. So congratulations!

At 67, you should be ready to go for the end game.
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Posted 18 June 2019 - 03:59 AM

Looking forward to the Final Fantasy VIII Remastered release. While i still have my complaints about the story and Squall, i have a lot of nostalgia for the game.

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Posted 18 June 2019 - 07:43 AM

*slow clap*

I was post game and high leveled (I forget how high, but at least high 80's if not 90's. I did it the hard way and it still took hours. So congratulations!

At 67, you should be ready to go for the end game.

 

By time I get to the endgame I might be in the 80s with how I play, lol.


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Posted 19 June 2019 - 05:35 PM

I just beat Tiamat in the Henne Mines. With that, I'm pretty much caught up with where I quit playing on the PS2. That Tiamat gave me sooooo much trouble on PS2. I can't tell you how satisfying it was to beat the snot out of him on my first try...underleveled!
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Posted 19 June 2019 - 05:38 PM

The fight with Levianthan is very awesome... but I got HUGE flashbacks to Sonic Adventure...


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