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@  wonko the sane? : (23 January 2018 - 07:02 AM)

He's actually interfacing with the public and is generally charismatic. He's no more effective than harper, but at least he can work a room.

@  Locoman : (23 January 2018 - 12:39 AM)

-shrugs- He says the right things more often, at least.

@  SHIELD Agent 47 : (22 January 2018 - 11:03 PM)

Well is Trudeau an improvement over Harper?

@  wonko the sane? : (22 January 2018 - 10:54 PM)

Most of the country is sick of trudeau, they very well might get in anyway. Might as well vote for the shmuck who actually wants to do good, but will accidentally screw it up, over the shmucks who'll lie about it.

@  TM2-Megatron : (22 January 2018 - 07:14 PM)

Voting NDP is how the Conservatives get in, though

@  wonko the sane? : (22 January 2018 - 07:12 PM)

because the road to hell is, after all, paved with good intentions.

@  wonko the sane? : (22 January 2018 - 07:12 PM)

There isn't one of those in this lot. Vote for the one whom won't deliberately do damage... so NDP.

@  TM2-Megatron : (22 January 2018 - 07:09 PM)

I usually feel an obligation to vote in any election, but I honestly won't know who to vote for next time around. I don't like any of them, and I think the best we can hope for is someone who won't do any more damage

@  TM2-Megatron : (22 January 2018 - 07:04 PM)

Pretending to try to figure out how to undo the absolutely flawless system of wealth concentration they and their predecessors designed

@  TM2-Megatron : (22 January 2018 - 07:04 PM)

Well, they're all off to Davos now, supposedly to lament the horribly skewed wealth distribution that's gotten even worse since last year's meeting

@  wonko the sane? : (22 January 2018 - 07:03 PM)

Conversely, being impressed by politicians isn't something you should be happy about.

@  wonko the sane? : (22 January 2018 - 07:02 PM)

The other side of the canadian coin right now is a harper clone. If trudeau runs again, the choice is NDP or liberal. It all depends on how the NDP plays out under the new guy, but so far I am unimpressed.

@  TM2-Megatron : (22 January 2018 - 07:00 PM)

I don't disagree. Trudeau is a clown and he's been a huge disappointment. I was naive enough to believe he'd actually stick to his word and do something to help the middle class. He's never getting my vote again

@  wonko the sane? : (22 January 2018 - 07:00 PM)

This little raptor is freaking BOSS! Also, I've been drinking, so kinda mellow.

@  wonko the sane? : (22 January 2018 - 07:00 PM)

Been playing with slash for the last hour though, totally worth it.

@  wonko the sane? : (22 January 2018 - 06:59 PM)

After duties and the exchange AND shipping. I'm not even going to bother appealing, it'll take ages and achieve nothing.

@  TM2-Megatron : (22 January 2018 - 06:59 PM)

I assuming it was toys, and those have a 0% duty rate even when the object isn't of North American manufacture. In that case, it just should've been taxes and the processing fee

@  wonko the sane? : (22 January 2018 - 06:58 PM)

We won't get it. Nothing the trudeau government has done has actually helped the end level canadian citizen, and with trump on the other side: it'll only get worse.

@  TM2-Megatron : (22 January 2018 - 06:58 PM)

Wonko, if you feel the customs weren't assessed properly you can always contact them to appeal. Generally, the fee should only be taxes (GST/QST in your case) + duties (if applicable, depending on the type of item where it was made) + Canada Post's processing fee. If the item was properly valued on the parcel, it usually shouldn't reach paid twice territory

@  TM2-Megatron : (22 January 2018 - 06:49 PM)

One of the things I'm hoping comes out of these NAFTA talks (assuming they don't kill it) is Canada adopting an increased duty-free limit. $20 compared to the American's $800 is really ridiculous

@  TM2-Megatron : (22 January 2018 - 06:47 PM)

Stuff sent via more expensive shipping methods, though, might attract their attention more often

@  TM2-Megatron : (22 January 2018 - 06:46 PM)

Although it might depend what method it was sent via USPS. Pretty much the only things I receive from the US anymore in Canada are sent First Class Parcel (which is trackable), and I don't think Customs really scrutinizes those ones that much

@  TM2-Megatron : (22 January 2018 - 06:41 PM)

In fact I almost never get charged. Only when the stated value on the package is in the extreme range, like $300 or more

@  TM2-Megatron : (22 January 2018 - 06:41 PM)

Strange the duties were so high. I've been hit by UPS with their insane fees, but I've always had good experiences with USPS and Canada Post

@  wonko the sane? : (22 January 2018 - 05:36 PM)

USPS then canada post.

@  RichardT1977 : (22 January 2018 - 05:25 PM)

Very carefully, I hope

@  TM2-Megatron : (22 January 2018 - 03:32 PM)

How was it delivered?

@  wonko the sane? : (22 January 2018 - 02:24 PM)

the duties pushed the cost of it into "paid twice" range.

@  Benbot : (22 January 2018 - 02:06 PM)

Well, at least hospitalization won't send you into bankruptcy. There's always that.

@  Tm_Silverclaw : (22 January 2018 - 01:52 PM)

o.O

@  wonko the sane? : (22 January 2018 - 01:40 PM)

And not happy anymore. 40 bucks on duties. Free trade my ass.

@  wonko the sane? : (22 January 2018 - 11:26 AM)

Yay! I should get my package from BBTS today!

@  Arazyr : (22 January 2018 - 10:50 AM)

Okay, now I get the snake thing. Thanks for the Pokemon reference. It was a bit after my time... 8^)

@  CastletonSnob : (22 January 2018 - 08:05 AM)

This is a Transformers fansite. Do you like big bots and you cannot lie?

@  Telly : (22 January 2018 - 03:32 AM)

no. was just making a silly/stupid joke

@  TheMightyMol... : (22 January 2018 - 03:22 AM)

Onyx is a stone. Onix is a rock snake. Do you even Pokemon, bro?

@  Telly : (22 January 2018 - 02:44 AM)

could be a rock made of snakes. we just dont know!

@  Foffy : (22 January 2018 - 02:15 AM)

He is a snake made of rock, though

@  Jetstream C-18 : (21 January 2018 - 08:56 PM)

No, Onyx is a snake.

@  Arazyr : (21 January 2018 - 01:12 PM)

Something I only just "got" last night: Of course IDW's GB Blackrock is associated with Onyx Prime. Onyx is a black rock.

@  Tm_Silverclaw : (21 January 2018 - 07:37 AM)

Bet a lot of military people won't want to work this monday. ;(

@  Pennpenn : (21 January 2018 - 07:27 AM)

It seems sort of intuitive for a lot of people because it's the first day in the week that you're working.

@  Nevermore : (21 January 2018 - 04:54 AM)

Germany considers Monday the first day of the week.

@  PlutoniumBoss : (21 January 2018 - 01:34 AM)

The judge obviously had a more material motive than the one he claimed, there need to be some serious investigation of that case.

@  Tm_Silverclaw : (20 January 2018 - 05:04 PM)

The reason is even worse. :(

@  SHIELD Agent 47 : (20 January 2018 - 04:34 PM)

That moron is a shame to his profession.

@  Tm_Silverclaw : (20 January 2018 - 09:34 AM)

I just think a Judge going on and Jury Tampering, trying to make the Jury think a sex taffiker is innocent is sickening. *won't say why he did that as that goes in P&R*

@  Sabrblade : (20 January 2018 - 09:21 AM)

Heh, the schedules for my work weeks begin with Saturday

@  wonko the sane? : (20 January 2018 - 07:01 AM)

Thing about the US is... you can say that any time you want as much as you want. You're still going to get shot, but it might not be because you said that though.

@  NotVeryKnightly : (20 January 2018 - 02:20 AM)

You just did.


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#1 (Deactivated) Ataru

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Posted 29 September 2009 - 05:21 PM

Assuming that Hasbro doesn't just do "The Movie, but a cartoon" (I love the Movie toys, but I get bored even with good things if they continue for too long; variety is best!), what sort of mainline would you like to see follow up on the Movie? Keep in mind that Hasbro has said Universe will continue to be a sub-line, if I recall correctly, and won't be the next mainline.

One thing I've wanted to see for awhile is a line of beast/vehicle/robot triple changers, using semi-futuristic, i.e. Animated-level-of-futuristic vehicle modes. For instance, a Prime who turns from a firetruck to a dragon to a robot, or a Megatron who turns from a tank to robot to gorilla. icon-fire.gif As long as they kept the beast modes rather G1-style, I don't think it would be too unsightly, say, to have a truck turn into a robot tiger, or something.

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Posted 29 September 2009 - 09:20 PM

bring back animated+classics plz. ):

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Posted 29 September 2009 - 09:27 PM

Since they've said Classics/Universe will be back [as its usual side line], gimme anything for the main line. Preferably something on the same level of quality writing as Animated.


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Posted 29 September 2009 - 09:27 PM

If it's a Classics themed line, my interest will drop drastically.

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Posted 29 September 2009 - 09:29 PM

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If it's a Classics themed line, my interest will drop drastically.


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Posted 29 September 2009 - 09:34 PM

I just don't want Transformers to end up being perpetual releases of the same danged people and for all of the design sensibilities going to recreate characters from 20 years ago, instead of forging ahead with new and modern ideas that add to and challenge our perception of what Transformers should be.

It's always been a non-static, imaginative line, even when it draws from the past, and if we get Classics all the time, we're just gonna get repeat repeat repeat.

Reimagine, not recreate. That's what I want.

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Posted 29 September 2009 - 09:36 PM

You know, I'd kind of love to see TransTech get a second attempt, but using the Fan Club's Axiom Nexus-verse as a setting.

I'd be more willing to say that I'd want to see Shattered Glass, but I think the prose storyline is really going to fully cover that continuity, so TransTech it is.

Seriously, though, those two universes are just so delightfully unique that I kind of hate seeing them languishing in the relative obscurity of the Fan Club.

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Posted 29 September 2009 - 09:37 PM

QUOTE(Razorsaw @ Sep 30 2009, 02:27 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
If it's a Classics themed line, my interest will drop drastically.

I just don't want Transformers to end up being perpetual releases of the same danged people and for all of the design sensibilities going to recreate characters from 20 years ago, instead of forging ahead with new and modern ideas that add to and challenge our perception of what Transformers should be.

It's always been a non-static, imaginative line, even when it draws from the past, and if we get Classics all the time, we're just gonna get repeat repeat repeat.

Reimagine, not recreate. That's what I want.


Will you still be posting? Honestly, the distinctions you're making in your opinion there are so arbitrary, I'm not even sure where to begin. But it's okay that Animated was by far the most homage heavy and fanwanky series ever, as long as it was drawn in a zany way, right?

As long as they're continuing Classics style stuff in an adequate way on the side, I'm pretty open minded as long as the writing is good in the show. I wouldn't mind a return to something a little more beast focused, and I'd still love to see more mythological creatures show up in a line.

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Posted 29 September 2009 - 09:40 PM

I prefer something completely fresh from where we've been and definitely something completely unrelated to the movie. No doubt the mindless machines (ironic) will soon be pumping out a TF3 and possibly more so there will be plenty of opportunity for more ugly robots in the future. Let's take a break from it for a year or more.

My dream would be TransTech, but seeing as that is incredibly unlikely, I wouldn't mind a return to organic Beasts. I also would love a line that has an over the top anime look. I just hope it is something original and not simply another alt universe with sad attempts at recreating/reimagining classic characters and basic story plot. Either continue the original continuity or move in a completely new direction, please.

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Posted 29 September 2009 - 09:41 PM

QUOTE(Jeremy @ Sep 29 2009, 09:37 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I wouldn't mind a return to something a little more beast focused, and I'd still love to see more mythological creatures show up in a line.


A line of mythological creatures would be very cool. Beast Wars III anyone?

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Posted 29 September 2009 - 09:47 PM

Something akin to Classics & Universe 2.0.

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Posted 29 September 2009 - 09:47 PM

Considering that the past two main lines have been the movies and Animated, I think that there's more than enough room for Classics-aesthetic figures as a sub-line. As for the main line, I don't have any preferences, oddly enough. The movie figures are still my favorite aesthetic, but at this point, they'll have produced almost all of my favorite characters in either the first or second movie line.

I'd like to see some Master-style figures done with modern technology, though.

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Posted 29 September 2009 - 09:50 PM

QUOTE(Razorsaw @ Sep 29 2009, 10:34 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I just don't want Transformers to end up being perpetual releases of the same danged people and for all of the design sensibilities going to recreate characters from 20 years ago, instead of forging ahead with new and modern ideas that add to and challenge our perception of what Transformers should be.


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Seems to me like the last 15 years or so has been about that. Beast Wars/Machines, RiD, Armada, Energon, Cybertron and the Movie have all had tons of new, modern ideas. There have been lots of homages, yes, but there's also been just as many, if not more totally new ideas, characters and such. How much more originality do you need to drown yourself in before you realize you already have more than enough of it? Maybe you're just one of those spoiled babies that want MORE MORE MORE, no matter what. At least the Classics lovers can be satisfied to a certain point since G1 ended over 20 years ago, there's only so many characters to remake, as opposed to more and more characterless "original" characters that can be made up easily for newer lines and shows.

Also, complaining about too much classic characters and figures, but wildly praising Animated, which like Jeremy said, is more fanwanky than anything else is just *scrubbed*.

Edited by C16, 29 September 2009 - 09:55 PM.


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Posted 29 September 2009 - 09:51 PM

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It's always been a non-static, imaginative line, even when it draws from the past, and if we get Classics all the time, we're just gonna get repeat repeat repeat.


Define "Classics themed" then.

Animated was VERY Classic themed for example. As was Classics even though they're so very different from each other.

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Posted 29 September 2009 - 09:56 PM

QUOTE(MrBlud @ Sep 29 2009, 10:51 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Define "Classics themed" then.


Anything without big chins, wide chests or stick thighs.

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Posted 29 September 2009 - 09:59 PM

Glyph, Tap-Out, Radalert, Sunstorm, Classics Wasp, Slaughterhouse...

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Posted 29 September 2009 - 10:07 PM

I really don't think we're gonna be seeing any Classics 3.0 or anything. I think we're going to get Movie-styled versions of stuff from now on. At least in between cartoon series, which may or may not be movie-esque in their own ways.

I hope you folks like ROTF Dirge and Bludgeon and Brakedown, 'cuz I think you'll be seeing a lot of stuff like that.

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Posted 29 September 2009 - 10:08 PM

It really would be refreshing to have a show about entirely new characters with cameo or references to the ones we know.

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Posted 29 September 2009 - 10:08 PM

Animated also took those classic concepts and made them anew in ways that were fresh and not tired and boring.

But even then, there's a comic series? What do we get? G1. Ideas for a toy repaint? G1. You guys act like G1 has been getting the short end of the stick when it's been getting all the lucre even when it's not the "main" toyline.

Yes, Animated used a lot of G1 elements, but it also turned them on its ear. The Seekers are clones, not Starscream's vaguely characterized goon squad. Blackarachnia takes Elita-1 and her BW incarnation and makes her completely different. Shockwave is a new spin on his G1 cartoon characterization. Soundwave plays a guitar and tries to take over for the machines. Ratchet - just everything about Ratchet. Blitzwing! Optimus is a low rung dude.

And even then, we get Dirt Boss, Bulkhead, Sentinel Prime, Lugnut! Transformers has always excelled when it balances the old and the new in a way that comes off as a nice, breath of fresh air. If we focus too much on Classics, we'll get something like G.I. Joe that repeats repeats repeats and doesn't go anywhere and just becomes stale.

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Posted 29 September 2009 - 10:11 PM

I would love some beasts. Especially mythological creatures and/or fuzors.