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@  Robowang : (24 April 2017 - 11:53 AM)

Menasor's problem is that his crotch is waaaaaaaaaaaaaay too high. I couldn't care less about those other issues. If your dong is a chestburster, something ain't right.

@  BlackMax : (24 April 2017 - 11:40 AM)

Seems like all the combiners have an issue like that, the legs can never be completely straight in combined mode, the finished big bot is always looming eerily or hip-thrusting.

@  SHIELD Agent 47 : (24 April 2017 - 11:39 AM)

I doubt having an integrated trailer would have swayed me into buying CW Motormaster. But what definitely put me off were Internet reports of awful hip ratcheting.

@  BlackMax : (24 April 2017 - 11:36 AM)

I might also mention that ~not~ being a big truck has worked for the Internet pretty well.

@  unluckiness : (24 April 2017 - 11:32 AM)

I moaned about Motormaster because his combiner mode was awful

@  Rycochet : (24 April 2017 - 11:31 AM)

People moaned about the choices made during Combiner wars.that meant characters like Motormaster/Menasor weren't G1G1G1.

@  BlackMax : (24 April 2017 - 11:23 AM)

He could always be a very small red truck.

@  TheMightyMol... : (24 April 2017 - 10:59 AM)

But how will you know it's Optimus Prime if he's not a big red truck?

@  Broadside : (24 April 2017 - 10:20 AM)

Personally, I'm not a fan of the extreme-accuracy trend. The character choices are kind of sure-fine-whatever, but outside of stuff like Alpha Trion that's a huge divergence from the source material, there doesn't feel like there's much imagination in the designs any more.

@  Pennpenn : (24 April 2017 - 05:03 AM)

Because you might as well start as you mean to go on?

@  Nevermore : (24 April 2017 - 04:16 AM)

It does. Preview image is Legion's penis tongue.

@  SHIELD Agent 47 : (24 April 2017 - 04:15 AM)

Hold it. Please tell me Kiss Players doesn't have a GoBox.

@  Autobot Bubbs : (24 April 2017 - 03:10 AM)

That is epically messed up

@  Autobot Bubbs : (24 April 2017 - 03:10 AM)

GURD.... youtube just auto-played a new trailer for the Alien flick.... featuring John Denver's 'country roads' as BG music....

@  Noideaforaname : (24 April 2017 - 12:37 AM)

The Generations lineup should be decided by hitting Random Page on the wiki. "Next one is... Crankstart." 'Alright, I love the Scavengers!' "No, no, CrankSTART. The repaint of a repaint of a repaint of a Scout version of a Deluxe based on a background vehicle from the Live Action film." 'Oh'

@  RichardT1977 : (23 April 2017 - 11:31 PM)

After we get a couple of Pretenders. And a Titans Return Star Saber (not a difficult retool from Galvatron).

@  BlackMax : (23 April 2017 - 10:21 PM)

I really do like all the attention to the 80s toys, being from that era myself. However, I would be really happy if (let's say post Trypticon) the Generations line turns to the 2001 RiD line, Beast Wars stuff, and moves forwarda bit.

@  SHIELD Agent 47 : (23 April 2017 - 08:19 PM)

I'm curious because I'm not an 80s kid nor have I ever held an actual 80s toy in my hands, but I'm pretty sure a mathematically significant portion of 80s kids here do have a like for cartoon accuracy.

@  SHIELD Agent 47 : (23 April 2017 - 08:15 PM)

How much of this community favors versus not favors the current Hasbro design team's general trend of accuracy to classic 1980s toys and lack of attention to any other era of Transformers?

@  Fruitloop Mu... : (23 April 2017 - 07:36 PM)

Telly, ah, got it.

@  Evac : (23 April 2017 - 06:41 PM)

"You can do magic things!" "It's called evil, kid."

@  Foffy : (23 April 2017 - 06:27 PM)

Potatoes don't have ears. That's corn.

@  Telly : (23 April 2017 - 06:27 PM)

little furry potatos

@  Evac : (23 April 2017 - 06:24 PM)

This potato's got big ears...

@  Foffy : (23 April 2017 - 06:18 PM)

The potato rebellion will be swift and brutal.

@  Waspinator : (23 April 2017 - 03:48 PM)

IT'S WATCHING US

@  Telly : (23 April 2017 - 03:34 PM)

yeah, at the time im posting this, theres a "2" next to it and me and fruitloop are shown to be the 2 people reading it

@  Telly : (23 April 2017 - 03:33 PM)

i think it just means that someone is reading the shoutbox

@  Fruitloop Mu... : (23 April 2017 - 03:25 PM)

Re The Rise of Cobra: I like bad movies and action sequences involving elite ninjas, so I watched / fast-forwarded through it on Netflix a couple of years ago.

@  Fruitloop Mu... : (23 April 2017 - 03:23 PM)

Can anyone tell me why the Shoutbox has a notification (a "1") when I login sometimes? I scroll through and don't see anything addressed to me. What does it mean?

@  ▲ndrusi : (23 April 2017 - 01:33 PM)

I miss the 2000s when my local stores got new toys more than once a year.

@  NotVeryKnightly : (23 April 2017 - 01:09 PM)

I mean, it might be hard to not know about something before release at all, but the degree of familiarity that you described is only attainable if you intentionally seek things out.

@  NotVeryKnightly : (23 April 2017 - 12:59 PM)

That's at least partially your own fault. The "in motion" part sounds like you even watched videos, which require conscious effort, unlike pictures that might be hard to even avoid.

@  Bass X0 : (23 April 2017 - 12:22 PM)

I miss the 80s where the first time I ever saw Transformers toys was on the toy shelves and hadn't already saw the toy from every angle and in motion several months beforehand. It made seeing a toy in the store something very special to me that I can't recapture now.

@  Evac : (23 April 2017 - 12:14 PM)

I could see Generations becoming a TRU exclusive line, now that I think about it.

@  Xellos : (23 April 2017 - 12:14 PM)

Also, Generations weathered AOE, and the TLK line seems to be short as well, so I think we'll still be seeing some room for Generations.

@  TheMightyMol... : (23 April 2017 - 12:11 PM)

Titans aren't really wide-released anyway. About the only brick-and-mortar chain to reliably carry them is Toys R Us.

@  NotVeryKnightly : (23 April 2017 - 12:08 PM)

Isn't Trypticon still a long way from now?

@  Evac : (23 April 2017 - 11:57 AM)

They wouldn't let a big-ticket item like that get cancelled.

@  Evac : (23 April 2017 - 11:57 AM)

Counter argument: They still haven't released Trypticon.

@  unluckiness : (23 April 2017 - 09:25 AM)

But yeah, not having any big-name media means it's the most likely, although the premiere series packaging might convince retailers to dedicate more shelf space, kinda like SW Black.

@  unluckiness : (23 April 2017 - 09:24 AM)

I'd expect Generations to be the sacrificial lamb since they can't possibly stock RID any less.

@  RichardT1977 : (23 April 2017 - 09:06 AM)

I'm thinking the subline that doesn't have a movie or TV show will be the one on the cutting board.

@  RichardT1977 : (23 April 2017 - 09:05 AM)

Back to TF toys: the question is whether or not retailers will be willing to commit the peg/shelf space for three sublines. And which one will be sidelined if space is at a premium.

@  unluckiness : (23 April 2017 - 06:28 AM)

No idea.

@  TheMightyMol... : (23 April 2017 - 03:40 AM)

Sometimes the Shoutbox takes a little longer to catch up to a new avatar.

@  NotVeryKnightly : (23 April 2017 - 03:00 AM)

In the Shoutbox I'm seeing the pink thing instead of that guy with the weird eyes.

@  Telly : (23 April 2017 - 02:59 AM)

looks the same to me. maybe it looks different cause its smaller?

@  NotVeryKnightly : (23 April 2017 - 02:57 AM)

@unluckiness why/how is your avatar here different than the one in your profile

@  unluckiness : (23 April 2017 - 02:44 AM)

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#1 (Deactivated) Ataru

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Posted 29 September 2009 - 05:21 PM

Assuming that Hasbro doesn't just do "The Movie, but a cartoon" (I love the Movie toys, but I get bored even with good things if they continue for too long; variety is best!), what sort of mainline would you like to see follow up on the Movie? Keep in mind that Hasbro has said Universe will continue to be a sub-line, if I recall correctly, and won't be the next mainline.

One thing I've wanted to see for awhile is a line of beast/vehicle/robot triple changers, using semi-futuristic, i.e. Animated-level-of-futuristic vehicle modes. For instance, a Prime who turns from a firetruck to a dragon to a robot, or a Megatron who turns from a tank to robot to gorilla. icon-fire.gif As long as they kept the beast modes rather G1-style, I don't think it would be too unsightly, say, to have a truck turn into a robot tiger, or something.

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Posted 29 September 2009 - 09:20 PM

bring back animated+classics plz. ):

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Posted 29 September 2009 - 09:27 PM

Since they've said Classics/Universe will be back [as its usual side line], gimme anything for the main line. Preferably something on the same level of quality writing as Animated.


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Posted 29 September 2009 - 09:27 PM

If it's a Classics themed line, my interest will drop drastically.

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Posted 29 September 2009 - 09:29 PM

QUOTE(Razorsaw @ Sep 29 2009, 10:27 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
If it's a Classics themed line, my interest will drop drastically.


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Posted 29 September 2009 - 09:34 PM

I just don't want Transformers to end up being perpetual releases of the same danged people and for all of the design sensibilities going to recreate characters from 20 years ago, instead of forging ahead with new and modern ideas that add to and challenge our perception of what Transformers should be.

It's always been a non-static, imaginative line, even when it draws from the past, and if we get Classics all the time, we're just gonna get repeat repeat repeat.

Reimagine, not recreate. That's what I want.

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Posted 29 September 2009 - 09:36 PM

You know, I'd kind of love to see TransTech get a second attempt, but using the Fan Club's Axiom Nexus-verse as a setting.

I'd be more willing to say that I'd want to see Shattered Glass, but I think the prose storyline is really going to fully cover that continuity, so TransTech it is.

Seriously, though, those two universes are just so delightfully unique that I kind of hate seeing them languishing in the relative obscurity of the Fan Club.

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Posted 29 September 2009 - 09:37 PM

QUOTE(Razorsaw @ Sep 30 2009, 02:27 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
If it's a Classics themed line, my interest will drop drastically.

I just don't want Transformers to end up being perpetual releases of the same danged people and for all of the design sensibilities going to recreate characters from 20 years ago, instead of forging ahead with new and modern ideas that add to and challenge our perception of what Transformers should be.

It's always been a non-static, imaginative line, even when it draws from the past, and if we get Classics all the time, we're just gonna get repeat repeat repeat.

Reimagine, not recreate. That's what I want.


Will you still be posting? Honestly, the distinctions you're making in your opinion there are so arbitrary, I'm not even sure where to begin. But it's okay that Animated was by far the most homage heavy and fanwanky series ever, as long as it was drawn in a zany way, right?

As long as they're continuing Classics style stuff in an adequate way on the side, I'm pretty open minded as long as the writing is good in the show. I wouldn't mind a return to something a little more beast focused, and I'd still love to see more mythological creatures show up in a line.

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Posted 29 September 2009 - 09:40 PM

I prefer something completely fresh from where we've been and definitely something completely unrelated to the movie. No doubt the mindless machines (ironic) will soon be pumping out a TF3 and possibly more so there will be plenty of opportunity for more ugly robots in the future. Let's take a break from it for a year or more.

My dream would be TransTech, but seeing as that is incredibly unlikely, I wouldn't mind a return to organic Beasts. I also would love a line that has an over the top anime look. I just hope it is something original and not simply another alt universe with sad attempts at recreating/reimagining classic characters and basic story plot. Either continue the original continuity or move in a completely new direction, please.

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Posted 29 September 2009 - 09:41 PM

QUOTE(Jeremy @ Sep 29 2009, 09:37 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I wouldn't mind a return to something a little more beast focused, and I'd still love to see more mythological creatures show up in a line.


A line of mythological creatures would be very cool. Beast Wars III anyone?

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Posted 29 September 2009 - 09:47 PM

Something akin to Classics & Universe 2.0.

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Posted 29 September 2009 - 09:47 PM

Considering that the past two main lines have been the movies and Animated, I think that there's more than enough room for Classics-aesthetic figures as a sub-line. As for the main line, I don't have any preferences, oddly enough. The movie figures are still my favorite aesthetic, but at this point, they'll have produced almost all of my favorite characters in either the first or second movie line.

I'd like to see some Master-style figures done with modern technology, though.

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Posted 29 September 2009 - 09:50 PM

QUOTE(Razorsaw @ Sep 29 2009, 10:34 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I just don't want Transformers to end up being perpetual releases of the same danged people and for all of the design sensibilities going to recreate characters from 20 years ago, instead of forging ahead with new and modern ideas that add to and challenge our perception of what Transformers should be.


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Seems to me like the last 15 years or so has been about that. Beast Wars/Machines, RiD, Armada, Energon, Cybertron and the Movie have all had tons of new, modern ideas. There have been lots of homages, yes, but there's also been just as many, if not more totally new ideas, characters and such. How much more originality do you need to drown yourself in before you realize you already have more than enough of it? Maybe you're just one of those spoiled babies that want MORE MORE MORE, no matter what. At least the Classics lovers can be satisfied to a certain point since G1 ended over 20 years ago, there's only so many characters to remake, as opposed to more and more characterless "original" characters that can be made up easily for newer lines and shows.

Also, complaining about too much classic characters and figures, but wildly praising Animated, which like Jeremy said, is more fanwanky than anything else is just *scrubbed*.

Edited by C16, 29 September 2009 - 09:55 PM.


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Posted 29 September 2009 - 09:51 PM

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It's always been a non-static, imaginative line, even when it draws from the past, and if we get Classics all the time, we're just gonna get repeat repeat repeat.


Define "Classics themed" then.

Animated was VERY Classic themed for example. As was Classics even though they're so very different from each other.

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Posted 29 September 2009 - 09:56 PM

QUOTE(MrBlud @ Sep 29 2009, 10:51 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Define "Classics themed" then.


Anything without big chins, wide chests or stick thighs.

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Posted 29 September 2009 - 09:59 PM

Glyph, Tap-Out, Radalert, Sunstorm, Classics Wasp, Slaughterhouse...

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Posted 29 September 2009 - 10:07 PM

I really don't think we're gonna be seeing any Classics 3.0 or anything. I think we're going to get Movie-styled versions of stuff from now on. At least in between cartoon series, which may or may not be movie-esque in their own ways.

I hope you folks like ROTF Dirge and Bludgeon and Brakedown, 'cuz I think you'll be seeing a lot of stuff like that.

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Posted 29 September 2009 - 10:08 PM

It really would be refreshing to have a show about entirely new characters with cameo or references to the ones we know.

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Posted 29 September 2009 - 10:08 PM

Animated also took those classic concepts and made them anew in ways that were fresh and not tired and boring.

But even then, there's a comic series? What do we get? G1. Ideas for a toy repaint? G1. You guys act like G1 has been getting the short end of the stick when it's been getting all the lucre even when it's not the "main" toyline.

Yes, Animated used a lot of G1 elements, but it also turned them on its ear. The Seekers are clones, not Starscream's vaguely characterized goon squad. Blackarachnia takes Elita-1 and her BW incarnation and makes her completely different. Shockwave is a new spin on his G1 cartoon characterization. Soundwave plays a guitar and tries to take over for the machines. Ratchet - just everything about Ratchet. Blitzwing! Optimus is a low rung dude.

And even then, we get Dirt Boss, Bulkhead, Sentinel Prime, Lugnut! Transformers has always excelled when it balances the old and the new in a way that comes off as a nice, breath of fresh air. If we focus too much on Classics, we'll get something like G.I. Joe that repeats repeats repeats and doesn't go anywhere and just becomes stale.

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Posted 29 September 2009 - 10:11 PM

I would love some beasts. Especially mythological creatures and/or fuzors.