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@  Evac : (28 April 2017 - 11:49 AM)

And I... Have my sarcasm.

@  TheMightyMol... : (28 April 2017 - 11:47 AM)

Search history has changed! Spam forums triumph! And you....you no longer post relevant content!

@  Evac : (28 April 2017 - 11:46 AM)

Mayhem hazzzz planzzzz.

@  Nutjob R/T : (28 April 2017 - 11:36 AM)

Subforums don't die. They wait. And plan.

@  Benbot : (28 April 2017 - 09:44 AM)

Are there any plans to delete or move dead subforums?

@  MEDdMI : (28 April 2017 - 05:49 AM)

instead of blackjack, we have dice rolls in the RP and there was an actual card game in another thread.

@  Bass X0 : (28 April 2017 - 05:19 AM)

They could start their own Beast Mayhem with Blackjack and Hookers.

@  MEDdMI : (28 April 2017 - 05:16 AM)

There's plenty of talented artists in Beast Mayhem! ....though we tend to draw things that can't be posted anyway. :doh

@  wlg3 : (28 April 2017 - 01:15 AM)

I really enjoy the creative sub forums of TFW, though, like their kitbash and fan art forums. The creative forums have lots of talented, friendly people and is an active, supportive community.

@  wlg3 : (28 April 2017 - 01:13 AM)

Gotta agree with Evac... TFW has a lot of cool, talented people, but they're overwhelmingly outnumbered by unbearable neckbeards

@  LordGigaIce : (27 April 2017 - 10:20 PM)

I do enjoy the TFW podcast. and that subforum's usually very civil. It's the best place to actually talk about TFers there :D also the Radicons forum is ok if you just like looking at kitbash pr0n

@  Evac : (27 April 2017 - 10:18 PM)

There's some cool people on the site, thankfully. It's just the morons tend to outnumber them... Which is generally the rule on most forums thanks to the GIFT.

@  Evac : (27 April 2017 - 10:17 PM)

In all honesty, the better parts of the site are the non-TF parts.

@  LordGigaIce : (27 April 2017 - 10:13 PM)

yeah, and their love of 3p is just...i don't get it.

@  Noideaforaname : (27 April 2017 - 10:03 PM)

TFW can be... literal with the rules sometimes. Like, a discussion about favorite human characters gets LOCKED if you mention Agent Fowler because "all Prime discussion belongs in the RiD forums".

@  LordGigaIce : (27 April 2017 - 09:48 PM)

Also, as far as TFW's No Politics goes...it's nice in theory but then you end up with the current IDW stories that lean HEAVILY into politics and religion. I've had more than a few lengthy posts exploring the parallels between the IDW Decepticon movement and various real world socialist movements deleted because it was technically "politics." So hug 'em. I really only visit there these days to poke around the podcast subforum.

@  LordGigaIce : (27 April 2017 - 09:45 PM)

My person canon is that the Quintessons created Cybertron as a factory to make the TFers as mechs, but they became self aware and they revolted. then Cybertronian society began to develop and the events of the revolt became mythologised as the stories of the Knights of Cyberton, the Thirteen, etc...real events that became the basis for religion, essentially.

@  Evac : (27 April 2017 - 09:34 PM)

Timeout. Does it convert?

@  Nutjob R/T : (27 April 2017 - 09:29 PM)

.... Wait I think those are actually ninjas

@  Nutjob R/T : (27 April 2017 - 09:29 PM)

Fact: Transformers are mammals. Fact: The purpose of a Transformer is to flip out and kill people

@  ▲ndrusi : (27 April 2017 - 06:54 PM)

Transformers are alien space robots from space.]

@  Rycochet : (27 April 2017 - 06:49 PM)

Transformers believe they were created by <X>, others believe they were created by <Y> and/or <Z>. There are lots of theories, disagreements but ultimately nobody knows for sure.

@  Noideaforaname : (27 April 2017 - 05:11 PM)

Squid robits build machines. Machines decide they had enough of that and kicked the squid robits off the planet. Everything's pretty chill for a while until machines get mad for dumb reasons and break the planet. THE END

@  Bass X0 : (27 April 2017 - 04:22 PM)

Primus created Cybertron and The Thirteen. Then later, the Quintessons come to the planet they call Seibertron and use Primus' power; the plasma energy chamber to forge military robots Destrons and consumer robots Cybertrons. The Cybertrons and Destrons rise up and drive the Quintessons away but are unable to live in peace with each other. And so the Cybertron population become the Autobot army and the Destrons become Decepticons, with the Autobots renaming their planet Cybertron. Far far later still, bacteria that was present on the asteroid Primus imprisoned himself within has evolved into organic life within Cybertron...

@  Evac : (27 April 2017 - 03:35 PM)

But aside from the ending Trent and Siph made for them at FunPub, the 3H Wreckers comics kinda sucked.

@  Evac : (27 April 2017 - 03:34 PM)

That's what the 3H Wreckers comics kind of did, actually.

@  wonko the sane? : (27 April 2017 - 03:30 PM)

So, what? The maker of the makers kinda thing?

@  Bass X0 : (27 April 2017 - 02:55 PM)

My fanon is both the Quintesson and Primus origins. They're compatible.

@  Rycochet : (27 April 2017 - 02:37 PM)

I prefer the profile book/movie interpretation of the Quintessons, a race whose entire purpose is to capture and execute those who escape Unicron.

@  Noideaforaname : (27 April 2017 - 02:03 PM)

I like the Quintesson origin partly because it's a twist on the robot revolution cliche, partly because of the irony of a people uniting against their own creators just to fall into endless civil war, and mostly because i just really like the Quintessons themselves.

@  Diecast : (27 April 2017 - 12:03 PM)

I preferred the Primus origin until it became the more common origin, fiction wise.

@  ▲ndrusi : (27 April 2017 - 11:08 AM)

Since the analogy to humans isn't perfect, it could also be interpreted as closer to "maternity ward."

@  Locoman : (27 April 2017 - 11:02 AM)

I think the most unfortunately named Transformer in their society would probably be Hot Spot, which is like having a human named "Placenta."

@  Locoman : (27 April 2017 - 11:02 AM)

Confusing, I bet.

@  Noideaforaname : (27 April 2017 - 10:58 AM)

I wonder what everyday Transformer society is like where half the population are named after common objects and stuff...

@  TheMightyMol... : (27 April 2017 - 10:53 AM)

I bet Gears hates this.

@  Noideaforaname : (27 April 2017 - 10:18 AM)

Naturally occuring gears! (hey, if bugs can do it...)

@  Evac : (27 April 2017 - 10:00 AM)

They're both better than the Primus origin.

@  unluckiness : (27 April 2017 - 09:56 AM)

The Allspark sucks. I much prefer the quintessons origin.

@  Dracula : (27 April 2017 - 07:23 AM)

I hate the allspark! That's why it's been the only TF forum I've bothered with for almost 10 years!

@  Robowang : (27 April 2017 - 07:13 AM)

As much as I pick on us, that's a really big reason why I like it here too. Plus the traffic isn't so heavy that anything you post gets lost in five minutes.

@  Rycochet : (27 April 2017 - 06:00 AM)

The Allspark is one of the first Transformers sites I've been to where there's no weird hero worship of the staff or two or three staffers who are weirdly aggressive about certain transformers related topics and never fail to show it. This is probably the first site in my near two decades in the fandom I can post and not feel I'm a few steps away from falling afoul of some unwritten rule that will cause people to pile on, so yay Allspark.

@  LBD "Nyt... : (27 April 2017 - 05:31 AM)

*pops in* "Hm, I wonder where the conversation has gone since last night..." *reads* "...huh. I did not see any of that coming."

@  MEDdMI : (27 April 2017 - 05:26 AM)

*apart!

@  MEDdMI : (27 April 2017 - 05:26 AM)

This board has provided me with the only RP campaign that didn't fall a

@  SHIELD Agent 47 : (27 April 2017 - 05:17 AM)

So what? We're disciples of Primus and they're disciples of Unicron?

@  lastmaximal : (27 April 2017 - 04:26 AM)

I'm really not surprised.

@  Nevermore : (27 April 2017 - 04:16 AM)

Well, the users over on TFW in return accuse the Allspark of being an elitist clique that ostracizes everyone who doesn't act like they do (i.e. civil), whereas TFW is more welcoming to everyone regardless of their views.

@  Pennpenn : (27 April 2017 - 03:23 AM)

Hard G. I don't give a solitary shit what the creators call it, the first word in the acronym is "Graphical". I have no idea why they'd think any sane human could, would, or should pronounce it any other way.

@  SHIELD Agent 47 : (27 April 2017 - 03:13 AM)

I acknowledge what the creators say, but whether I remember to use their pronunciation or not is hit or miss. Heck, I think I usually think of it in my head as "gee-i-ef", in parallel to "JPG" and "PNG".


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#1 NightViper

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Posted 10 August 2009 - 06:00 PM

Hasbro's answers for Round 3 of the Q&A have rolled in!

1) How many Human Alliance figures are scheduled for the Revenge of the Fallen toy line? And when you decide to end the Revenge of the Fallen toy line, is there any chance that this fan-popular sub-line will continue? There are still plenty of human and not-so human characters that could use toys. Like Daniel with Arcee, Spike with Hot Rod, or Una and Chak with Transmetal Cheetor!

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1) Currently, we have announced five figures for the Human Alliance line, Bumblebee, Sideswipe, Autobot Skids, Barricade and Mudflap. Outside of these announced figures, we are already investigating other characters and pairings that would make sense for the line. As a whole, humans have always played an important part within the Transformers fantasy, especially in the two live action films. With that in mind, we have tried to bring those relationships to life in toy form. We are eager to see what the reaction to the line will be and will base our future decisions on where this line goes based on these results.


2) After Perceptor and the Insecticons, how many other reissues are planned? Or if there are currently no plans for more reissues, but it's something that you'd like to look into in the future, which figures would you personally like to see reissued in the US market?

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2) Currently, there are no plans to release any other reissues at this time. However, we would always strongly consider any re-issues that Takara has previously done.



3) "Revenge of the Fallen" has brought with it a more adult-aimed Transformers, both in terms of toy complexity and the adult humor sprinkled generously throughout the movie. What will this mean for any future toys and fiction--including comics, toy bios and cartoons-- that Hasbro may have planned for the movie continuity? Would a movie continuity cartoon revert back to the more child friendly stories as we've seen with the past few years, or would it keep a flavoring of the adult themes that Michael Bay brought to the films?

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Posted 10 August 2009 - 06:15 PM

So, where is the answer to #3 then?

#3 NightViper

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Posted 10 August 2009 - 06:16 PM

They didn't answer it.

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Posted 10 August 2009 - 06:23 PM

That's unfortunate PR.

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Posted 10 August 2009 - 06:29 PM

Hasbro crack the multiverse in two with TFWIKI.Net's answers!

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Posted 10 August 2009 - 06:37 PM

QUOTE(NightViper @ Aug 10 2009, 04:00 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
2) After Perceptor and the Insecticons, how many other reissues are planned? Or if there are currently no plans for more reissues, but it's something that you'd like to look into in the future, which figures would you personally like to see reissued in the US market?

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2) Currently, there are no plans to release any other reissues at this time. However, we would always strongly consider any re-issues that Takara has previously done.


I'd like to see a future Q&A ask why Hasbro won't go ahead and do something before Takara for a change. Even if we all know the answer already, I'd like to see Hasbro acknowledge this one publicly....

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Posted 10 August 2009 - 06:37 PM

Wow, swank answer for the multiverse question. I particularly like the "dead end" universes as an explanation for conflicting fiction.

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Posted 10 August 2009 - 06:38 PM

QUOTE(NightViper @ Aug 10 2009, 07:16 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
They didn't answer it.

... So they wasted what could have been a really good question like "If the retailers don't accept the upcoming Animated toys, will you distribute them through Hasbro Toy Shop?" or "Are there any plans for Voyager and/or Deluxe molds for Scrapper and Hightower?" for something they won't answer?











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Posted 10 August 2009 - 06:38 PM

Very nice, if circuitous, answer to the Fallen question.

#10 NightViper

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Posted 10 August 2009 - 06:44 PM

QUOTE(Spin-Out @ Aug 10 2009, 07:38 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
QUOTE(NightViper @ Aug 10 2009, 07:16 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
They didn't answer it.

... So they wasted what could have been a really good question like "If the retailers don't accept the upcoming Animated toys, will you distribute them through Hasbro Toy Shop?" or "Are there any plans for Voyager and/or Deluxe molds for Scrapper and Hightower?" for something they won't answer?
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Uh, the sites themselves are the ones that select the three questions out of the various submissions. So if anyone is to blame for selecting a non-answerable question, it's the Allspark's staff (myself included). We thought that the question would do well at addressing how Hasbro felt about the themes directed towards more mature audiences as present in ROTF, and how they might treat them in the future. Apparently Hasbro didn't think it a good question, however.

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Posted 10 August 2009 - 06:51 PM

WoooHooo! to the Hasbro answer for the TFWiki's Multiversal singularity question. They could have just blown it off, or told us "a wizard did it" but they actually gave us a really good answer that works. Bravo Hasbro, good job. icon-hotrod.gif
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Posted 10 August 2009 - 06:59 PM

I can't believe they answered my Tfwiki.net question. What a glorious, triumphant bulljive-storm that was to witness.

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Posted 10 August 2009 - 07:01 PM

I haven't seen so much technobabble since Voyager...and it STILL managed to explain things.

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Posted 10 August 2009 - 07:16 PM

QUOTE(MrBlud @ Aug 10 2009, 07:01 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I haven't seen so much technobabble since Voyager...and it STILL managed to explain things.

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Heck, even *I* like that answer, and I make no efforts to hide that I think the multiversal singularity stuff is a crock of jive. It goes around in circles with big words designed for the purpose... but it WORKS.

Edited by Lukeblast, 10 August 2009 - 07:18 PM.


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Posted 10 August 2009 - 07:27 PM

QUOTE(Shattered @ Aug 10 2009, 07:38 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Very nice, if circuitous, answer to the Fallen question.



Eh, not really. It was pretty much code for, "Yes, we're sticking with Lee's assertion that the 13 (Fallen incl.) are multiversal singularites like Primus and Unicron. Conflicts in fiction are of no consequence because of quantum physics."

Basically, it's Hasbro's version of the Retcon Punch.

I would have preferred the much simpler "No, only Primus and Unicron are multiversal singularites. They're gods, so this makes sense for them. Normal transformers, even the 13, exist within their own universe even if they have analogues in other universes that are very similar."

And that's what I'll stick with as far as fanon goes. For example, to me, there's no Fallen in the UT. The closest guy is Sideways, though I haven't decided if he's on of the UT 13 or not.

I'm really encouraged by the Human Alliance response, though. If they want it to succeed, however, they need to severely ramp up distribution. They can't let it get treated the same way as alternators, especially at 10 dollars more in cost.

Edited by Octavius Prime, 10 August 2009 - 07:31 PM.


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Posted 10 August 2009 - 07:33 PM

I'm glad someone asked about the cancelled Alternators. As I was the one that first found both, and every Q&A and the two Botcons I went to I always forget about that question.

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Posted 10 August 2009 - 08:22 PM


Hasbro's answer to the multiversals is magnificently opaque. It's dazzling in the dictionary definition--it impresses you so much you don't at first notice that it doesn't actually answer the question and in fact sets up the question as being unanswerable. I like that.

I'd like it a whole helluvvalot more if it had ever been or would ever be expressed in any mainstream TF story. I mean, sure as hell that's what IDW should have been publishing instead of AHM.

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Posted 10 August 2009 - 08:26 PM

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I would have preferred the much simpler "No, only Primus and Unicron are multiversal singularites. They're gods, so this makes sense for them. Normal transformers, even the 13, exist within their own universe even if they have analogues in other universes that are very similar."


But that's not the correct answer.

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Posted 10 August 2009 - 09:06 PM

QUOTE(NightViper @ Aug 10 2009, 07:44 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
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Or fist, for those amongst us with a penchant for irrational rage and volitility.

In all seriousness, are we sure they....just refused to answer it? Or did someone at Hasbro forget to copy the whole response when they sent it out?

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Posted 10 August 2009 - 09:14 PM

QUOTE(NightViper @ Aug 10 2009, 07:00 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
2) After Perceptor and the Insecticons, how many other reissues are planned? Or if there are currently no plans for more reissues, but it's something that you'd like to look into in the future, which figures would you personally like to see reissued in the US market?

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2) Currently, there are no plans to release any other reissues at this time. However, we would always strongly consider any re-issues that Takara has previously done.



Well, we have been seeing Takara churn out a lot lately so I have hopes.

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