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@  Robowang : (24 April 2017 - 11:53 AM)

Menasor's problem is that his crotch is waaaaaaaaaaaaaay too high. I couldn't care less about those other issues. If your dong is a chestburster, something ain't right.

@  BlackMax : (24 April 2017 - 11:40 AM)

Seems like all the combiners have an issue like that, the legs can never be completely straight in combined mode, the finished big bot is always looming eerily or hip-thrusting.

@  SHIELD Agent 47 : (24 April 2017 - 11:39 AM)

I doubt having an integrated trailer would have swayed me into buying CW Motormaster. But what definitely put me off were Internet reports of awful hip ratcheting.

@  BlackMax : (24 April 2017 - 11:36 AM)

I might also mention that ~not~ being a big truck has worked for the Internet pretty well.

@  unluckiness : (24 April 2017 - 11:32 AM)

I moaned about Motormaster because his combiner mode was awful

@  Rycochet : (24 April 2017 - 11:31 AM)

People moaned about the choices made during Combiner wars.that meant characters like Motormaster/Menasor weren't G1G1G1.

@  BlackMax : (24 April 2017 - 11:23 AM)

He could always be a very small red truck.

@  TheMightyMol... : (24 April 2017 - 10:59 AM)

But how will you know it's Optimus Prime if he's not a big red truck?

@  Broadside : (24 April 2017 - 10:20 AM)

Personally, I'm not a fan of the extreme-accuracy trend. The character choices are kind of sure-fine-whatever, but outside of stuff like Alpha Trion that's a huge divergence from the source material, there doesn't feel like there's much imagination in the designs any more.

@  Pennpenn : (24 April 2017 - 05:03 AM)

Because you might as well start as you mean to go on?

@  Nevermore : (24 April 2017 - 04:16 AM)

It does. Preview image is Legion's penis tongue.

@  SHIELD Agent 47 : (24 April 2017 - 04:15 AM)

Hold it. Please tell me Kiss Players doesn't have a GoBox.

@  Autobot Bubbs : (24 April 2017 - 03:10 AM)

That is epically messed up

@  Autobot Bubbs : (24 April 2017 - 03:10 AM)

GURD.... youtube just auto-played a new trailer for the Alien flick.... featuring John Denver's 'country roads' as BG music....

@  Noideaforaname : (24 April 2017 - 12:37 AM)

The Generations lineup should be decided by hitting Random Page on the wiki. "Next one is... Crankstart." 'Alright, I love the Scavengers!' "No, no, CrankSTART. The repaint of a repaint of a repaint of a Scout version of a Deluxe based on a background vehicle from the Live Action film." 'Oh'

@  RichardT1977 : (23 April 2017 - 11:31 PM)

After we get a couple of Pretenders. And a Titans Return Star Saber (not a difficult retool from Galvatron).

@  BlackMax : (23 April 2017 - 10:21 PM)

I really do like all the attention to the 80s toys, being from that era myself. However, I would be really happy if (let's say post Trypticon) the Generations line turns to the 2001 RiD line, Beast Wars stuff, and moves forwarda bit.

@  SHIELD Agent 47 : (23 April 2017 - 08:19 PM)

I'm curious because I'm not an 80s kid nor have I ever held an actual 80s toy in my hands, but I'm pretty sure a mathematically significant portion of 80s kids here do have a like for cartoon accuracy.

@  SHIELD Agent 47 : (23 April 2017 - 08:15 PM)

How much of this community favors versus not favors the current Hasbro design team's general trend of accuracy to classic 1980s toys and lack of attention to any other era of Transformers?

@  Fruitloop Mu... : (23 April 2017 - 07:36 PM)

Telly, ah, got it.

@  Evac : (23 April 2017 - 06:41 PM)

"You can do magic things!" "It's called evil, kid."

@  Foffy : (23 April 2017 - 06:27 PM)

Potatoes don't have ears. That's corn.

@  Telly : (23 April 2017 - 06:27 PM)

little furry potatos

@  Evac : (23 April 2017 - 06:24 PM)

This potato's got big ears...

@  Foffy : (23 April 2017 - 06:18 PM)

The potato rebellion will be swift and brutal.

@  Waspinator : (23 April 2017 - 03:48 PM)

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@  Telly : (23 April 2017 - 03:34 PM)

yeah, at the time im posting this, theres a "2" next to it and me and fruitloop are shown to be the 2 people reading it

@  Telly : (23 April 2017 - 03:33 PM)

i think it just means that someone is reading the shoutbox

@  Fruitloop Mu... : (23 April 2017 - 03:25 PM)

Re The Rise of Cobra: I like bad movies and action sequences involving elite ninjas, so I watched / fast-forwarded through it on Netflix a couple of years ago.

@  Fruitloop Mu... : (23 April 2017 - 03:23 PM)

Can anyone tell me why the Shoutbox has a notification (a "1") when I login sometimes? I scroll through and don't see anything addressed to me. What does it mean?

@  ▲ndrusi : (23 April 2017 - 01:33 PM)

I miss the 2000s when my local stores got new toys more than once a year.

@  NotVeryKnightly : (23 April 2017 - 01:09 PM)

I mean, it might be hard to not know about something before release at all, but the degree of familiarity that you described is only attainable if you intentionally seek things out.

@  NotVeryKnightly : (23 April 2017 - 12:59 PM)

That's at least partially your own fault. The "in motion" part sounds like you even watched videos, which require conscious effort, unlike pictures that might be hard to even avoid.

@  Bass X0 : (23 April 2017 - 12:22 PM)

I miss the 80s where the first time I ever saw Transformers toys was on the toy shelves and hadn't already saw the toy from every angle and in motion several months beforehand. It made seeing a toy in the store something very special to me that I can't recapture now.

@  Evac : (23 April 2017 - 12:14 PM)

I could see Generations becoming a TRU exclusive line, now that I think about it.

@  Xellos : (23 April 2017 - 12:14 PM)

Also, Generations weathered AOE, and the TLK line seems to be short as well, so I think we'll still be seeing some room for Generations.

@  TheMightyMol... : (23 April 2017 - 12:11 PM)

Titans aren't really wide-released anyway. About the only brick-and-mortar chain to reliably carry them is Toys R Us.

@  NotVeryKnightly : (23 April 2017 - 12:08 PM)

Isn't Trypticon still a long way from now?

@  Evac : (23 April 2017 - 11:57 AM)

They wouldn't let a big-ticket item like that get cancelled.

@  Evac : (23 April 2017 - 11:57 AM)

Counter argument: They still haven't released Trypticon.

@  unluckiness : (23 April 2017 - 09:25 AM)

But yeah, not having any big-name media means it's the most likely, although the premiere series packaging might convince retailers to dedicate more shelf space, kinda like SW Black.

@  unluckiness : (23 April 2017 - 09:24 AM)

I'd expect Generations to be the sacrificial lamb since they can't possibly stock RID any less.

@  RichardT1977 : (23 April 2017 - 09:06 AM)

I'm thinking the subline that doesn't have a movie or TV show will be the one on the cutting board.

@  RichardT1977 : (23 April 2017 - 09:05 AM)

Back to TF toys: the question is whether or not retailers will be willing to commit the peg/shelf space for three sublines. And which one will be sidelined if space is at a premium.

@  unluckiness : (23 April 2017 - 06:28 AM)

No idea.

@  TheMightyMol... : (23 April 2017 - 03:40 AM)

Sometimes the Shoutbox takes a little longer to catch up to a new avatar.

@  NotVeryKnightly : (23 April 2017 - 03:00 AM)

In the Shoutbox I'm seeing the pink thing instead of that guy with the weird eyes.

@  Telly : (23 April 2017 - 02:59 AM)

looks the same to me. maybe it looks different cause its smaller?

@  NotVeryKnightly : (23 April 2017 - 02:57 AM)

@unluckiness why/how is your avatar here different than the one in your profile

@  unluckiness : (23 April 2017 - 02:44 AM)

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What was the main reason BotCon 2009's set didn't sell out?

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#1 xZAOx

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Posted 22 May 2009 - 06:52 PM

2005, they can't get rid of them.

2006, sold all but 36, which were sold quickly online afterwards.

2007, sold out before BotCon.

2008, sold out even quicker.

So here we are at 2009, which a box set that's actually going to be available at the convention for late registration at a minimum. Why do you think this is?

I believe it's a combination of all factors, but I think the single biggest reason is that the toys are less popular this year. If the toys were more popular, I think more people would've made the effort to get out to California - or at the least, got an Iacon (non-attending) set.

Although I do know of multiple people that the economy, in some way, shape, or form, has caused them from being able to go this year.

And even though they've made more than ever before (Pete stated this), I bet they could've made the same amount for 2007 and 2008's sets and they still would've sold out. Probably even with 2006's set (even though it would've been post-convention).

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Posted 22 May 2009 - 06:59 PM

A five and a half hour drive is pretty far. icon-screamer.gif

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Posted 22 May 2009 - 06:59 PM

Yeah, probably a little of everything. I doubt they'll last through the weekend, though.

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Posted 22 May 2009 - 07:13 PM

QUOTE(Bocc Kob @ May 22 2009, 07:59 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
A five and a half hour drive is pretty far. icon-screamer.gif

A five and a half hour drive is the closest you'll ever have it. I have that much just to get to the airport. icon-waspy.gif I'm taking two days there and two days back.

QUOTE(Mouse_Pad @ May 22 2009, 07:59 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Yeah, probably a little of everything. I doubt they'll last through the weekend, though.

Hm... I was going to say the location. *shrug* I think that could be narrowed down by finding out how many attendees fly VS drive/bus depending on the locations. I know it's pretty stupid for me to do this year.

I think FunPub probably shouldn't combine so many bad choices together if they can help it. (well... I guess they can't. maybe.) If they're going to have it on the West Coast, during a recession, make sure the exclusives are nostalgia-heavy. It's just not solid enough here. I think Razorclaw's probably the biggest draw. I think this was a BAD year to make TWO MASSIVE figures that are original characters. Even if it was Flak and Roadbuster (which neither of them are. It's not Roadbuster, and Flak's even less popular than the movie characters), it wouldn't be enough. This should have been the year we got Sunstorm. If FP's going to be adamant about not reusing a mold, then neither Energon or Classic Starscream's mold will be used for Sunstorm, and both/either lie with Hasbro.

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Posted 22 May 2009 - 07:18 PM

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What was the main reason BotCon 2009's set didn't sell out?


I'm gonna chalk this one up to Crab People.
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Posted 22 May 2009 - 07:19 PM

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What was the main reason BotCon 2009's set didn't sell out?


I'm gonna chalk this one up to Crab People.

Perhaps even Rare Endangered Spy Crabs

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Posted 22 May 2009 - 07:23 PM

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What was the main reason BotCon 2009's set didn't sell out?


I'm gonna chalk this one up to Crab People.

Perhaps even Rare Endangered Spy Crabs


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#8 Shanghai

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Posted 22 May 2009 - 07:24 PM

Just flip them over and....


Well, you know the rest.



I can't really see how these have not sold out already, though lack of interest seems to be the biggest. I mean everyone HAD to have the jets, as we all remember. And Shattered Glass, while it had plenty of people who were not interested, at least won over many on concept. This one though, just doesn't have that spark, outside of a few of the characters. But yeah, a lot of factors play a part.

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Posted 22 May 2009 - 07:26 PM

I think all of the above.

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Posted 22 May 2009 - 07:26 PM

QUOTE(Bocc Kob @ May 22 2009, 07:59 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
A five and a half hour drive is pretty far. icon-screamer.gif


Oh, c'mon, I've made at least that much of a drive to BotCon probably seven times. Sometimes double that. Once triple. Don't make me laugh and/or mock you!

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Posted 22 May 2009 - 07:26 PM

Not so great figs in a crappy economy, hardly surprising they haven't sold out yet.

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Posted 22 May 2009 - 08:13 PM

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I'm gonna chalk this one up to Crab People.

Perhaps even Rare Endangered Spy Crabs


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#13 The Jawa

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Posted 22 May 2009 - 08:16 PM

Bad timing... and way too expensive.

This year.

Figures I'm moving out West next year. icon-screamer.gif
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Posted 22 May 2009 - 08:17 PM

If they still have some by weekend's ....end, at least when the next sold out set happens they'll have something better to offer than the 2005 set.
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Posted 22 May 2009 - 08:19 PM

QUOTE(Robogeek1973 @ May 22 2009, 08:26 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Not so great figs in a crappy economy, hardly surprising they haven't sold out yet.

I think it's more these two than anything.

I'm not going because of location, but I didn't think it was a bad choice of location, just not convenient for me.



#16 NightViper

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Posted 22 May 2009 - 08:33 PM

Where's the "Because of Universe/Classics/Henkei" option? Seriously, a few years back we'd all be drooling over these toys. Now, however, unless it's a perfectly redesigned upgrade for a G1 character, most people are indifferent about the repaint. Don't get me wrong, there are exceptions, but it seems that most non-G1 toys that get cast as G1 characters are met with a tad more hostility than they have previously. Not that that a bad thing. Not that that a good thing. Just an observation.

That and the "They made more of them" option. Had they made the same as last year, they would have sold out within a month. Maybe a little longer. Still though, a long ass time ago. If you remember how rapidly that first 80% plus sold, that's probably around the usual number produced. There are really just a few stragglers preventing them from selling out. Nothing catastrophically "fail" about the numbers sold by any means.

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Posted 22 May 2009 - 08:56 PM

I dunno, all I want is Leozack and Banzai-Tron, cause I love me some obscure Transformers.
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Posted 22 May 2009 - 09:38 PM

I suspect it's the economy.

And I seriously hope they have sets available online post-Con. While I've no eagerness to own Scourge, I'd like to have the others from the main set...and I'm sure Scourge could be sold easily on eBay.


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Posted 22 May 2009 - 09:45 PM

QUOTE(Bocc Kob @ May 22 2009, 11:59 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
A five and a half hour drive is pretty far. icon-screamer.gif


Do you have any idea how many people take five and half hour flights to get to Botcon every year?

You have nothing to complain about, sir.

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Posted 22 May 2009 - 09:52 PM

Well, to be fair, you can at least take a nap on a five hour flight. Not so much on a car trip, especially if he's driving.