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@  wonko the sane? : (23 January 2018 - 07:02 AM)

He's actually interfacing with the public and is generally charismatic. He's no more effective than harper, but at least he can work a room.

@  Locoman : (23 January 2018 - 12:39 AM)

-shrugs- He says the right things more often, at least.

@  SHIELD Agent 47 : (22 January 2018 - 11:03 PM)

Well is Trudeau an improvement over Harper?

@  wonko the sane? : (22 January 2018 - 10:54 PM)

Most of the country is sick of trudeau, they very well might get in anyway. Might as well vote for the shmuck who actually wants to do good, but will accidentally screw it up, over the shmucks who'll lie about it.

@  TM2-Megatron : (22 January 2018 - 07:14 PM)

Voting NDP is how the Conservatives get in, though

@  wonko the sane? : (22 January 2018 - 07:12 PM)

because the road to hell is, after all, paved with good intentions.

@  wonko the sane? : (22 January 2018 - 07:12 PM)

There isn't one of those in this lot. Vote for the one whom won't deliberately do damage... so NDP.

@  TM2-Megatron : (22 January 2018 - 07:09 PM)

I usually feel an obligation to vote in any election, but I honestly won't know who to vote for next time around. I don't like any of them, and I think the best we can hope for is someone who won't do any more damage

@  TM2-Megatron : (22 January 2018 - 07:04 PM)

Pretending to try to figure out how to undo the absolutely flawless system of wealth concentration they and their predecessors designed

@  TM2-Megatron : (22 January 2018 - 07:04 PM)

Well, they're all off to Davos now, supposedly to lament the horribly skewed wealth distribution that's gotten even worse since last year's meeting

@  wonko the sane? : (22 January 2018 - 07:03 PM)

Conversely, being impressed by politicians isn't something you should be happy about.

@  wonko the sane? : (22 January 2018 - 07:02 PM)

The other side of the canadian coin right now is a harper clone. If trudeau runs again, the choice is NDP or liberal. It all depends on how the NDP plays out under the new guy, but so far I am unimpressed.

@  TM2-Megatron : (22 January 2018 - 07:00 PM)

I don't disagree. Trudeau is a clown and he's been a huge disappointment. I was naive enough to believe he'd actually stick to his word and do something to help the middle class. He's never getting my vote again

@  wonko the sane? : (22 January 2018 - 07:00 PM)

This little raptor is freaking BOSS! Also, I've been drinking, so kinda mellow.

@  wonko the sane? : (22 January 2018 - 07:00 PM)

Been playing with slash for the last hour though, totally worth it.

@  wonko the sane? : (22 January 2018 - 06:59 PM)

After duties and the exchange AND shipping. I'm not even going to bother appealing, it'll take ages and achieve nothing.

@  TM2-Megatron : (22 January 2018 - 06:59 PM)

I assuming it was toys, and those have a 0% duty rate even when the object isn't of North American manufacture. In that case, it just should've been taxes and the processing fee

@  wonko the sane? : (22 January 2018 - 06:58 PM)

We won't get it. Nothing the trudeau government has done has actually helped the end level canadian citizen, and with trump on the other side: it'll only get worse.

@  TM2-Megatron : (22 January 2018 - 06:58 PM)

Wonko, if you feel the customs weren't assessed properly you can always contact them to appeal. Generally, the fee should only be taxes (GST/QST in your case) + duties (if applicable, depending on the type of item where it was made) + Canada Post's processing fee. If the item was properly valued on the parcel, it usually shouldn't reach paid twice territory

@  TM2-Megatron : (22 January 2018 - 06:49 PM)

One of the things I'm hoping comes out of these NAFTA talks (assuming they don't kill it) is Canada adopting an increased duty-free limit. $20 compared to the American's $800 is really ridiculous

@  TM2-Megatron : (22 January 2018 - 06:47 PM)

Stuff sent via more expensive shipping methods, though, might attract their attention more often

@  TM2-Megatron : (22 January 2018 - 06:46 PM)

Although it might depend what method it was sent via USPS. Pretty much the only things I receive from the US anymore in Canada are sent First Class Parcel (which is trackable), and I don't think Customs really scrutinizes those ones that much

@  TM2-Megatron : (22 January 2018 - 06:41 PM)

In fact I almost never get charged. Only when the stated value on the package is in the extreme range, like $300 or more

@  TM2-Megatron : (22 January 2018 - 06:41 PM)

Strange the duties were so high. I've been hit by UPS with their insane fees, but I've always had good experiences with USPS and Canada Post

@  wonko the sane? : (22 January 2018 - 05:36 PM)

USPS then canada post.

@  RichardT1977 : (22 January 2018 - 05:25 PM)

Very carefully, I hope

@  TM2-Megatron : (22 January 2018 - 03:32 PM)

How was it delivered?

@  wonko the sane? : (22 January 2018 - 02:24 PM)

the duties pushed the cost of it into "paid twice" range.

@  Benbot : (22 January 2018 - 02:06 PM)

Well, at least hospitalization won't send you into bankruptcy. There's always that.

@  Tm_Silverclaw : (22 January 2018 - 01:52 PM)

o.O

@  wonko the sane? : (22 January 2018 - 01:40 PM)

And not happy anymore. 40 bucks on duties. Free trade my ass.

@  wonko the sane? : (22 January 2018 - 11:26 AM)

Yay! I should get my package from BBTS today!

@  Arazyr : (22 January 2018 - 10:50 AM)

Okay, now I get the snake thing. Thanks for the Pokemon reference. It was a bit after my time... 8^)

@  CastletonSnob : (22 January 2018 - 08:05 AM)

This is a Transformers fansite. Do you like big bots and you cannot lie?

@  Telly : (22 January 2018 - 03:32 AM)

no. was just making a silly/stupid joke

@  TheMightyMol... : (22 January 2018 - 03:22 AM)

Onyx is a stone. Onix is a rock snake. Do you even Pokemon, bro?

@  Telly : (22 January 2018 - 02:44 AM)

could be a rock made of snakes. we just dont know!

@  Foffy : (22 January 2018 - 02:15 AM)

He is a snake made of rock, though

@  Jetstream C-18 : (21 January 2018 - 08:56 PM)

No, Onyx is a snake.

@  Arazyr : (21 January 2018 - 01:12 PM)

Something I only just "got" last night: Of course IDW's GB Blackrock is associated with Onyx Prime. Onyx is a black rock.

@  Tm_Silverclaw : (21 January 2018 - 07:37 AM)

Bet a lot of military people won't want to work this monday. ;(

@  Pennpenn : (21 January 2018 - 07:27 AM)

It seems sort of intuitive for a lot of people because it's the first day in the week that you're working.

@  Nevermore : (21 January 2018 - 04:54 AM)

Germany considers Monday the first day of the week.

@  PlutoniumBoss : (21 January 2018 - 01:34 AM)

The judge obviously had a more material motive than the one he claimed, there need to be some serious investigation of that case.

@  Tm_Silverclaw : (20 January 2018 - 05:04 PM)

The reason is even worse. :(

@  SHIELD Agent 47 : (20 January 2018 - 04:34 PM)

That moron is a shame to his profession.

@  Tm_Silverclaw : (20 January 2018 - 09:34 AM)

I just think a Judge going on and Jury Tampering, trying to make the Jury think a sex taffiker is innocent is sickening. *won't say why he did that as that goes in P&R*

@  Sabrblade : (20 January 2018 - 09:21 AM)

Heh, the schedules for my work weeks begin with Saturday

@  wonko the sane? : (20 January 2018 - 07:01 AM)

Thing about the US is... you can say that any time you want as much as you want. You're still going to get shot, but it might not be because you said that though.

@  NotVeryKnightly : (20 January 2018 - 02:20 AM)

You just did.


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#1 Bass X0

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Posted 26 December 2008 - 04:19 PM

http://www.tfw2005.c...cts-listed.html

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Just received my off-month TFCC magazine, and for those of you who are club members, you know that we get an order form listing products "in stock" at the club store and available preorders these months. Well, this month's order form has some listings of toys we haven't heard of (or at least haven't been officially confirmed yet), so I thought I'd share.

The preorder deadline listed for these is March 3, so I'd imagine April is when we'd see these new Animated products:

Animated Deluxe Wave 3 '09: Arcee, Electrostatic Soundwave
Animated Voyager Wave 3 '09: Hydrodive Bumblebee, "Golfire" Grimlock

Keep in mind that these are just listings, so I have no idea what these products look like or anything. And I'm not sure what's up with "Golfire"-- I'm guessing it's a typo or shorthand for something longer, but I can't figure out what. "Goldenfire," perhaps?

Edited by Bass X0, 07 December 2009 - 09:29 AM.

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Posted 26 December 2008 - 04:23 PM


I thought the Q&A mentioned a Bumblebee-with-accessory at a smaller pricepoint, yet here's a Voyager. Maybe they're both coming out?

I hope Electro-Soundwave's new partner is Ratbat, who turns into a drum set.

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Posted 26 December 2008 - 04:30 PM

"Electrostatic" does not sound like Soundblaster.

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Posted 26 December 2008 - 04:57 PM

QUOTE(Thylacine2000 @ Dec 26 2008, 03:23 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I thought the Q&A mentioned a Bumblebee-with-accessory at a smaller pricepoint, yet here's a Voyager. Maybe they're both coming out?

I hope Electro-Soundwave's new partner is Ratbat, who turns into a drum set.

What I got from what they said was a small Bumblebee with more stuff.

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Posted 26 December 2008 - 05:04 PM

I'm pretty sure only 1 1/2 of them are repaints.
As Soundwave is supposed to have a new minion.
Although I guess Grimlock might come with something new.

I'm mainly disappointed with the fact that out of the four of them. There's only one new character.

QUOTE(Thylacine2000 @ Dec 26 2008, 04:23 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I thought the Q&A mentioned a Bumblebee-with-accessory at a smaller pricepoint, yet here's a Voyager. Maybe they're both coming out?

I hope Electro-Soundwave's new partner is Ratbat, who turns into a drum set.


It was a smaller Bumblebee with a large accessory. They never actually said anything about price point.
Although most of us assumed it would be a deluxe.


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Posted 26 December 2008 - 05:11 PM

Smaller Bumblebee, larger accessory, Voyager Class, "Hydrodrive". So he comes with a boat that he can sit in! And a captain's hat! And a spyglass! And a tongue-tied parrot who thinks he's better with women than he actually is...

...Or somethin' icon-fire.gif

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Posted 26 December 2008 - 05:16 PM

QUOTE(NightViper @ Dec 26 2008, 04:11 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Smaller Bumblebee, larger accessory, Voyager Class, "Hydrodrive". So he comes with a boat that he can sit in! And a captain's hat! And a spyglass! And a tongue-tied parrot who thinks he's better with women than he actually is...

...Or somethin' icon-fire.gif

I was just thing how much and Activators sized Bee would need to be packed with to be sold at Voyager prices. Maybe he come with a boat Fanzone and Sari?

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Posted 26 December 2008 - 05:18 PM

voyager class bumblebee?!!!!! what the crap?!! we don't need anymore big bumblebees!!!

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Posted 26 December 2008 - 05:18 PM

The new Bee needs to be much larger than the Activators version. I don't know where people got the completely insane idea that that thing is in any kind of scale with the larger figures.

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Posted 26 December 2008 - 05:25 PM

Bumblebee sounds weird but interesting. I just hope he's in scale as promised. I expect Grimlock to be a straight repaint with no new accessories. Electrostatic Soundwave sounds cool. Glad to see Arcee more solidly confirmed. I hope she has a car alt mode, not a bike (again).

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Posted 26 December 2008 - 05:43 PM

QUOTE(Yovnocrats @ Dec 26 2008, 04:18 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
The new Bee needs to be much larger than the Activators version. I don't know where people got the completely insane idea that that thing is in any kind of scale with the larger figures.

The last Hasbro Q&A.

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Posted 26 December 2008 - 05:51 PM

New Minion for Soundwave? Aw man...that means I have to buy him...I don't want any recolors...shot. Arcee sounds good...Voyager Bee? huh...

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Posted 26 December 2008 - 05:53 PM

QUOTE(Smitty @ Dec 26 2008, 05:43 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
QUOTE(Yovnocrats @ Dec 26 2008, 04:18 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
The new Bee needs to be much larger than the Activators version. I don't know where people got the completely insane idea that that thing is in any kind of scale with the larger figures.

The last Hasbro Q&A.

I think he's talking about Activators 'bee.


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Posted 26 December 2008 - 05:58 PM

A Grimlock who plays golf. I love it. Here's hoping his new colour scheme is all plaid!
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Posted 26 December 2008 - 06:06 PM

Golfire sounds like such a super-robot name.

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Posted 26 December 2008 - 06:09 PM

Hydrodrive Bumblebee sounds awesome. Can't wait to see his accessory.

Edited by Spin-Out, 26 December 2008 - 06:43 PM.


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Posted 26 December 2008 - 06:48 PM

QUOTE(Yovnocrats @ Dec 26 2008, 05:18 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
The new Bee needs to be much larger than the Activators version. I don't know where people got the completely insane idea that that thing is in any kind of scale with the larger figures.

Probably some screwy comedy scene, like the one in "Sari, Nobody's Home" where Ratchet holds him up by his foot and he's about the size of Ratchet's arm. Animated is terrible for scale consistency. Maybe not "Hoist driving a truck" terrible, but still pretty bad...

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Posted 26 December 2008 - 07:01 PM

activators bumblebee is closer in scale to deluxe ratchet and prowl than the deluxe bumblebee toy is. he's supposed to be smaller so with the toys available, the activators toy works the best.

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Posted 26 December 2008 - 07:09 PM

QUOTE(Thylacine2000 @ Dec 26 2008, 04:23 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I thought the Q&A mentioned a Bumblebee-with-accessory at a smaller pricepoint, yet here's a Voyager. Maybe they're both coming out?


His size class was never mentioned. Just that his toy was smaller than the Deluxe, and that he'd be coming with a large-ass accessory.

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I hope Electro-Soundwave's new partner is Ratbat, who turns into a drum set.


Ratbat, at least, seems likely, given Wyatt's love for the guy.

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Posted 26 December 2008 - 07:43 PM

QUOTE(Bass X0 @ Dec 26 2008, 07:01 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
activators bumblebee is closer in scale to deluxe ratchet and prowl than the deluxe bumblebee toy is. he's supposed to be smaller so with the toys available, the activators toy works the best.



The Activators is just simply too small in both modes to be anywhere near accurate scale with the other Autobots. If you follow the rule of Prowl being just taller than bumblebee, none of his current toys work. Deluxe is much too big and bulky, and the Activators is too short and inaccurate. Neither is really any closer to being 'in scale' than the other. The Deluxe would have been fine if they had just scaled everything down a tad. If he was just shorter than Prowl in robot mode, his car mode and limbs would have been okay too. His proportions compared to the animation would still be off (the toy has huge feet and large, misshapen arm kibble.) I'm hoping that if they're putting the effort into re-making him, they also spent some time making him actually look like the character we've had presented to us.