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@  TheMightyMol... : (24 April 2017 - 01:49 PM)

Hey man, don't dongshame.

@  Benbot : (24 April 2017 - 12:32 PM)

#crotchproblems

@  Robowang : (24 April 2017 - 11:53 AM)

Menasor's problem is that his crotch is waaaaaaaaaaaaaay too high. I couldn't care less about those other issues. If your dong is a chestburster, something ain't right.

@  BlackMax : (24 April 2017 - 11:40 AM)

Seems like all the combiners have an issue like that, the legs can never be completely straight in combined mode, the finished big bot is always looming eerily or hip-thrusting.

@  SHIELD Agent 47 : (24 April 2017 - 11:39 AM)

I doubt having an integrated trailer would have swayed me into buying CW Motormaster. But what definitely put me off were Internet reports of awful hip ratcheting.

@  BlackMax : (24 April 2017 - 11:36 AM)

I might also mention that ~not~ being a big truck has worked for the Internet pretty well.

@  unluckiness : (24 April 2017 - 11:32 AM)

I moaned about Motormaster because his combiner mode was awful

@  Rycochet : (24 April 2017 - 11:31 AM)

People moaned about the choices made during Combiner wars.that meant characters like Motormaster/Menasor weren't G1G1G1.

@  BlackMax : (24 April 2017 - 11:23 AM)

He could always be a very small red truck.

@  TheMightyMol... : (24 April 2017 - 10:59 AM)

But how will you know it's Optimus Prime if he's not a big red truck?

@  Broadside : (24 April 2017 - 10:20 AM)

Personally, I'm not a fan of the extreme-accuracy trend. The character choices are kind of sure-fine-whatever, but outside of stuff like Alpha Trion that's a huge divergence from the source material, there doesn't feel like there's much imagination in the designs any more.

@  Pennpenn : (24 April 2017 - 05:03 AM)

Because you might as well start as you mean to go on?

@  Nevermore : (24 April 2017 - 04:16 AM)

It does. Preview image is Legion's penis tongue.

@  SHIELD Agent 47 : (24 April 2017 - 04:15 AM)

Hold it. Please tell me Kiss Players doesn't have a GoBox.

@  Autobot Bubbs : (24 April 2017 - 03:10 AM)

That is epically messed up

@  Autobot Bubbs : (24 April 2017 - 03:10 AM)

GURD.... youtube just auto-played a new trailer for the Alien flick.... featuring John Denver's 'country roads' as BG music....

@  Noideaforaname : (24 April 2017 - 12:37 AM)

The Generations lineup should be decided by hitting Random Page on the wiki. "Next one is... Crankstart." 'Alright, I love the Scavengers!' "No, no, CrankSTART. The repaint of a repaint of a repaint of a Scout version of a Deluxe based on a background vehicle from the Live Action film." 'Oh'

@  RichardT1977 : (23 April 2017 - 11:31 PM)

After we get a couple of Pretenders. And a Titans Return Star Saber (not a difficult retool from Galvatron).

@  BlackMax : (23 April 2017 - 10:21 PM)

I really do like all the attention to the 80s toys, being from that era myself. However, I would be really happy if (let's say post Trypticon) the Generations line turns to the 2001 RiD line, Beast Wars stuff, and moves forwarda bit.

@  SHIELD Agent 47 : (23 April 2017 - 08:19 PM)

I'm curious because I'm not an 80s kid nor have I ever held an actual 80s toy in my hands, but I'm pretty sure a mathematically significant portion of 80s kids here do have a like for cartoon accuracy.

@  SHIELD Agent 47 : (23 April 2017 - 08:15 PM)

How much of this community favors versus not favors the current Hasbro design team's general trend of accuracy to classic 1980s toys and lack of attention to any other era of Transformers?

@  Fruitloop Mu... : (23 April 2017 - 07:36 PM)

Telly, ah, got it.

@  Evac : (23 April 2017 - 06:41 PM)

"You can do magic things!" "It's called evil, kid."

@  Foffy : (23 April 2017 - 06:27 PM)

Potatoes don't have ears. That's corn.

@  Telly : (23 April 2017 - 06:27 PM)

little furry potatos

@  Evac : (23 April 2017 - 06:24 PM)

This potato's got big ears...

@  Foffy : (23 April 2017 - 06:18 PM)

The potato rebellion will be swift and brutal.

@  Waspinator : (23 April 2017 - 03:48 PM)

IT'S WATCHING US

@  Telly : (23 April 2017 - 03:34 PM)

yeah, at the time im posting this, theres a "2" next to it and me and fruitloop are shown to be the 2 people reading it

@  Telly : (23 April 2017 - 03:33 PM)

i think it just means that someone is reading the shoutbox

@  Fruitloop Mu... : (23 April 2017 - 03:25 PM)

Re The Rise of Cobra: I like bad movies and action sequences involving elite ninjas, so I watched / fast-forwarded through it on Netflix a couple of years ago.

@  Fruitloop Mu... : (23 April 2017 - 03:23 PM)

Can anyone tell me why the Shoutbox has a notification (a "1") when I login sometimes? I scroll through and don't see anything addressed to me. What does it mean?

@  ▲ndrusi : (23 April 2017 - 01:33 PM)

I miss the 2000s when my local stores got new toys more than once a year.

@  NotVeryKnightly : (23 April 2017 - 01:09 PM)

I mean, it might be hard to not know about something before release at all, but the degree of familiarity that you described is only attainable if you intentionally seek things out.

@  NotVeryKnightly : (23 April 2017 - 12:59 PM)

That's at least partially your own fault. The "in motion" part sounds like you even watched videos, which require conscious effort, unlike pictures that might be hard to even avoid.

@  Bass X0 : (23 April 2017 - 12:22 PM)

I miss the 80s where the first time I ever saw Transformers toys was on the toy shelves and hadn't already saw the toy from every angle and in motion several months beforehand. It made seeing a toy in the store something very special to me that I can't recapture now.

@  Evac : (23 April 2017 - 12:14 PM)

I could see Generations becoming a TRU exclusive line, now that I think about it.

@  Xellos : (23 April 2017 - 12:14 PM)

Also, Generations weathered AOE, and the TLK line seems to be short as well, so I think we'll still be seeing some room for Generations.

@  TheMightyMol... : (23 April 2017 - 12:11 PM)

Titans aren't really wide-released anyway. About the only brick-and-mortar chain to reliably carry them is Toys R Us.

@  NotVeryKnightly : (23 April 2017 - 12:08 PM)

Isn't Trypticon still a long way from now?

@  Evac : (23 April 2017 - 11:57 AM)

They wouldn't let a big-ticket item like that get cancelled.

@  Evac : (23 April 2017 - 11:57 AM)

Counter argument: They still haven't released Trypticon.

@  unluckiness : (23 April 2017 - 09:25 AM)

But yeah, not having any big-name media means it's the most likely, although the premiere series packaging might convince retailers to dedicate more shelf space, kinda like SW Black.

@  unluckiness : (23 April 2017 - 09:24 AM)

I'd expect Generations to be the sacrificial lamb since they can't possibly stock RID any less.

@  RichardT1977 : (23 April 2017 - 09:06 AM)

I'm thinking the subline that doesn't have a movie or TV show will be the one on the cutting board.

@  RichardT1977 : (23 April 2017 - 09:05 AM)

Back to TF toys: the question is whether or not retailers will be willing to commit the peg/shelf space for three sublines. And which one will be sidelined if space is at a premium.

@  unluckiness : (23 April 2017 - 06:28 AM)

No idea.

@  TheMightyMol... : (23 April 2017 - 03:40 AM)

Sometimes the Shoutbox takes a little longer to catch up to a new avatar.

@  NotVeryKnightly : (23 April 2017 - 03:00 AM)

In the Shoutbox I'm seeing the pink thing instead of that guy with the weird eyes.

@  Telly : (23 April 2017 - 02:59 AM)

looks the same to me. maybe it looks different cause its smaller?


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#1 Bass X0

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Posted 26 December 2008 - 04:19 PM

http://www.tfw2005.c...cts-listed.html

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Just received my off-month TFCC magazine, and for those of you who are club members, you know that we get an order form listing products "in stock" at the club store and available preorders these months. Well, this month's order form has some listings of toys we haven't heard of (or at least haven't been officially confirmed yet), so I thought I'd share.

The preorder deadline listed for these is March 3, so I'd imagine April is when we'd see these new Animated products:

Animated Deluxe Wave 3 '09: Arcee, Electrostatic Soundwave
Animated Voyager Wave 3 '09: Hydrodive Bumblebee, "Golfire" Grimlock

Keep in mind that these are just listings, so I have no idea what these products look like or anything. And I'm not sure what's up with "Golfire"-- I'm guessing it's a typo or shorthand for something longer, but I can't figure out what. "Goldenfire," perhaps?

Edited by Bass X0, 07 December 2009 - 09:29 AM.

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Posted 26 December 2008 - 04:23 PM


I thought the Q&A mentioned a Bumblebee-with-accessory at a smaller pricepoint, yet here's a Voyager. Maybe they're both coming out?

I hope Electro-Soundwave's new partner is Ratbat, who turns into a drum set.

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Posted 26 December 2008 - 04:30 PM

"Electrostatic" does not sound like Soundblaster.

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Posted 26 December 2008 - 04:57 PM

QUOTE(Thylacine2000 @ Dec 26 2008, 03:23 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I thought the Q&A mentioned a Bumblebee-with-accessory at a smaller pricepoint, yet here's a Voyager. Maybe they're both coming out?

I hope Electro-Soundwave's new partner is Ratbat, who turns into a drum set.

What I got from what they said was a small Bumblebee with more stuff.

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Posted 26 December 2008 - 05:04 PM

I'm pretty sure only 1 1/2 of them are repaints.
As Soundwave is supposed to have a new minion.
Although I guess Grimlock might come with something new.

I'm mainly disappointed with the fact that out of the four of them. There's only one new character.

QUOTE(Thylacine2000 @ Dec 26 2008, 04:23 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I thought the Q&A mentioned a Bumblebee-with-accessory at a smaller pricepoint, yet here's a Voyager. Maybe they're both coming out?

I hope Electro-Soundwave's new partner is Ratbat, who turns into a drum set.


It was a smaller Bumblebee with a large accessory. They never actually said anything about price point.
Although most of us assumed it would be a deluxe.


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Posted 26 December 2008 - 05:11 PM

Smaller Bumblebee, larger accessory, Voyager Class, "Hydrodrive". So he comes with a boat that he can sit in! And a captain's hat! And a spyglass! And a tongue-tied parrot who thinks he's better with women than he actually is...

...Or somethin' icon-fire.gif

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Posted 26 December 2008 - 05:16 PM

QUOTE(NightViper @ Dec 26 2008, 04:11 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Smaller Bumblebee, larger accessory, Voyager Class, "Hydrodrive". So he comes with a boat that he can sit in! And a captain's hat! And a spyglass! And a tongue-tied parrot who thinks he's better with women than he actually is...

...Or somethin' icon-fire.gif

I was just thing how much and Activators sized Bee would need to be packed with to be sold at Voyager prices. Maybe he come with a boat Fanzone and Sari?

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Posted 26 December 2008 - 05:18 PM

voyager class bumblebee?!!!!! what the crap?!! we don't need anymore big bumblebees!!!

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Posted 26 December 2008 - 05:18 PM

The new Bee needs to be much larger than the Activators version. I don't know where people got the completely insane idea that that thing is in any kind of scale with the larger figures.

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Posted 26 December 2008 - 05:25 PM

Bumblebee sounds weird but interesting. I just hope he's in scale as promised. I expect Grimlock to be a straight repaint with no new accessories. Electrostatic Soundwave sounds cool. Glad to see Arcee more solidly confirmed. I hope she has a car alt mode, not a bike (again).

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Posted 26 December 2008 - 05:43 PM

QUOTE(Yovnocrats @ Dec 26 2008, 04:18 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
The new Bee needs to be much larger than the Activators version. I don't know where people got the completely insane idea that that thing is in any kind of scale with the larger figures.

The last Hasbro Q&A.

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Posted 26 December 2008 - 05:51 PM

New Minion for Soundwave? Aw man...that means I have to buy him...I don't want any recolors...shot. Arcee sounds good...Voyager Bee? huh...

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Posted 26 December 2008 - 05:53 PM

QUOTE(Smitty @ Dec 26 2008, 05:43 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
QUOTE(Yovnocrats @ Dec 26 2008, 04:18 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
The new Bee needs to be much larger than the Activators version. I don't know where people got the completely insane idea that that thing is in any kind of scale with the larger figures.

The last Hasbro Q&A.

I think he's talking about Activators 'bee.


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Posted 26 December 2008 - 05:58 PM

A Grimlock who plays golf. I love it. Here's hoping his new colour scheme is all plaid!
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Posted 26 December 2008 - 06:06 PM

Golfire sounds like such a super-robot name.

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Posted 26 December 2008 - 06:09 PM

Hydrodrive Bumblebee sounds awesome. Can't wait to see his accessory.

Edited by Spin-Out, 26 December 2008 - 06:43 PM.

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Posted 26 December 2008 - 06:48 PM

QUOTE(Yovnocrats @ Dec 26 2008, 05:18 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
The new Bee needs to be much larger than the Activators version. I don't know where people got the completely insane idea that that thing is in any kind of scale with the larger figures.

Probably some screwy comedy scene, like the one in "Sari, Nobody's Home" where Ratchet holds him up by his foot and he's about the size of Ratchet's arm. Animated is terrible for scale consistency. Maybe not "Hoist driving a truck" terrible, but still pretty bad...

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Posted 26 December 2008 - 07:01 PM

activators bumblebee is closer in scale to deluxe ratchet and prowl than the deluxe bumblebee toy is. he's supposed to be smaller so with the toys available, the activators toy works the best.

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Posted 26 December 2008 - 07:09 PM

QUOTE(Thylacine2000 @ Dec 26 2008, 04:23 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I thought the Q&A mentioned a Bumblebee-with-accessory at a smaller pricepoint, yet here's a Voyager. Maybe they're both coming out?


His size class was never mentioned. Just that his toy was smaller than the Deluxe, and that he'd be coming with a large-ass accessory.

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I hope Electro-Soundwave's new partner is Ratbat, who turns into a drum set.


Ratbat, at least, seems likely, given Wyatt's love for the guy.

#20 Mark Montag

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Posted 26 December 2008 - 07:43 PM

QUOTE(Bass X0 @ Dec 26 2008, 07:01 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
activators bumblebee is closer in scale to deluxe ratchet and prowl than the deluxe bumblebee toy is. he's supposed to be smaller so with the toys available, the activators toy works the best.



The Activators is just simply too small in both modes to be anywhere near accurate scale with the other Autobots. If you follow the rule of Prowl being just taller than bumblebee, none of his current toys work. Deluxe is much too big and bulky, and the Activators is too short and inaccurate. Neither is really any closer to being 'in scale' than the other. The Deluxe would have been fine if they had just scaled everything down a tad. If he was just shorter than Prowl in robot mode, his car mode and limbs would have been okay too. His proportions compared to the animation would still be off (the toy has huge feet and large, misshapen arm kibble.) I'm hoping that if they're putting the effort into re-making him, they also spent some time making him actually look like the character we've had presented to us.