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@  wonko the sane? : (14 November 2019 - 07:38 AM)

There actually are a good number of clinics around here: but the walk ins require an appointment (what?) and are only done once a week. IF you can get an appointment, you see a doctor usually within 40 minutes, but good luck getting the appointment.

@  Nevermore : (14 November 2019 - 03:35 AM)

Depending on the day.

@  Nevermore : (14 November 2019 - 03:35 AM)

We have family doctors (called "house doctors") with regular office hours where you may need an hour or two of waiting time.

@  TM2-Megatron : (14 November 2019 - 12:50 AM)

Two weeks? That seems a little long; are there not a lot of walk-in clinics around you?

@  wonko the sane? : (13 November 2019 - 07:01 PM)

Does germany make it quick and easy to see a doctor too? Cause an emergency doctor visit can take two weeks out here, and an emergency ROOM visit can take 18-24 hours.

@  Nevermore : (13 November 2019 - 06:43 PM)

(Good thing is, under German law, if you call in sick during your vacation and see a doctor immediately, you get to keep your vacation days.)

@  Nevermore : (13 November 2019 - 06:42 PM)

Too bad. My plans wee to do two more overtime hours before having my last day of vacation for the year on Friday. Oh well.

@  Nevermore : (13 November 2019 - 06:41 PM)

So I'm currently on medical leave for a particularly stupid reason: Burned my back with a hot-water bag while sleeping last night. Though the doctor said I'm hardly the first person to have this happen to them.

@  Patch : (13 November 2019 - 06:11 PM)

Just a particularly odious example of the 90s era of depicting transgender women as either the subject of crude humor, or "Jerry Springer" material.

@  Ashley : (13 November 2019 - 04:55 PM)

I think Ace Ventura legit contributed to me spending years in self denial. I will never be ok with Jim Carrey.

@  Benbot : (13 November 2019 - 01:22 PM)

I thought he since changed his tune.

@  Tm_Silverclaw : (13 November 2019 - 12:51 PM)

Jim Carry Paladin?

@  Maximus Ambus : (13 November 2019 - 12:22 PM)

Don't doubt what he can do. Sonic the Hedgehog!

@  Paladin : (13 November 2019 - 11:51 AM)

not giving a dime to a transphobic antivaxxer.

@  wonko the sane? : (13 November 2019 - 11:25 AM)

It'll be a terrible movie if jim carrey phones it in. Otherwise it should be decent.

@  Paladin : (13 November 2019 - 10:45 AM)

sonics' still gonna be a terrible movie but at least they whined loud enough to make him look passable for a 2-minute trailer. "yay."

@  ▲ndrusi : (13 November 2019 - 10:37 AM)

But of course to annoying people there's no such thing as different decisions made for different reasons, there is only "I like it so it's right" and "I don't like it so it's wrong."

@  ▲ndrusi : (13 November 2019 - 10:35 AM)

Even if we pretend it's objective truth that they were both bad, then they were bad in very different ways.

@  ▲ndrusi : (13 November 2019 - 10:33 AM)

Sonic's previous movie design looked genuinely bad. The Transformers '07 designs just looked insufficiently like what certain loud and obnoxious parts of the fandom think Transformers are required to always look like.

@  Otaku : (13 November 2019 - 08:50 AM)

Um... Purple Monkey Dishwasher?

@  TheMightyMol... : (13 November 2019 - 08:25 AM)

Do we really need to have Every Movie Transformer Thread Ever in the Squawkbox?

@  Bass X0 : (13 November 2019 - 08:13 AM)

Sure it made money but that doesn’t mean it has appealing character designs. Lot of god awful fugly faces in the Transformers movies.

@  Otaku : (12 November 2019 - 08:25 PM)

@Liege My issue with Transformers (2007) were elements I thought were unnecessary.  I know it was supposed to just be a joke, but I didn't ever need to hear about "Sam's Happy Time". >.> Which, being in awe of the first "live action" TF-film, didn't even register until I'd already purchased and watched it on DVD a few times (after seeing it in theaters 3 times).

@  Liege : (12 November 2019 - 08:22 PM)

For all the Bayisms in the 07 movie, it was tempered by Spielberg as producer. Designs aside it was an enjoyable popcorn blockbuster about a boy and his first car who happens to be an alien from another planet. They sequels are just Bay going unchecked after he proved how much bank he could bring in.

@  TM2-Megatron : (12 November 2019 - 07:12 PM)

I didn't find the designs in the '07 movie to be that bad, personally. What got really offputting was how Cybertronians in general become such huge a-holes in the later films; the designs were very much secondary to their horrible personalities

@  Sabrblade : (12 November 2019 - 06:59 PM)

And yet, Transformers still broke the bank at the box office, opened up the brand to a whole new generation of fans, shot the brand up to mainstream appeal, and enabled all kinds of new collector-oriented lines and other avenues to come about. Not saying Sonic's movie will do the same for his series, but the 2007 TF movie certainly did more good than harm.

@  Bass X0 : (12 November 2019 - 06:09 PM)

Paramount changed Sonic due to fan backlash but refused to redo Transformers 2007 with new cgi appearances based on their classic forms everyone’s knows and loves, and can relate to. Trailer 1 Sonic is as appealing a design as 2007 Bumblebee...

@  TheMightyMol... : (12 November 2019 - 02:14 PM)

I don't. They're a pain in the ass to repair.

@  Benbot : (12 November 2019 - 12:48 PM)

I wish car companies would bring back flip up headlights

@  TheMightyMol... : (12 November 2019 - 09:07 AM)

Wear a hazmat suit. It's Walmart, they're used to weird.

@  wonko the sane? : (12 November 2019 - 07:54 AM)

2 inches of snow on the side of the house, 2 feet of snow on the deck. I hate this winter already.

@  Tm_Silverclaw : (11 November 2019 - 11:33 PM)

But that requires actually going IN walmart. ;P

@  Liege : (11 November 2019 - 11:22 PM)

Pro tip for anyone hunting the for the Walmart 35th exclusives: try the seasonal aisles rather than the toy section. I found the display with all the exclusives and a bunch of the reflector wave practically untouched amongst those novelty arcade machines and a bunch of frozen merch.

@  SHIELD Agent 47 : (11 November 2019 - 09:45 PM)

Although that does spark an idea for me. In a new continuity, Censere the Necrobot could be the herald Cityspeaker for Quintessa the Necrotitan just to play on their monikers utilizing Greek for dead, nekrós.

@  SHIELD Agent 47 : (11 November 2019 - 09:26 PM)

I hate to burst your bubble, Maximus Ambus, but 90% of things said in IDW turned out to be amnesiac half-rememberings courtesy of Adaptus or outright lies courtesy of Shockwave.

@  Jenny : (11 November 2019 - 08:54 AM)

The toy's designed to look like Wipe-Out, anyway.

@  NotVeryKnightly : (11 November 2019 - 08:14 AM)

Didn't they try to retcon that into a figure of speech because that connection went against everybody else's long-term plans?

@  Maximus Ambus : (11 November 2019 - 03:53 AM)

There's still some connection given Trypticon was created by Mortilus.

@  NotVeryKnightly : (11 November 2019 - 12:12 AM)

Yeah that toy doesn't exactly look like Necrobot.

@  Sabrblade : (10 November 2019 - 08:24 PM)

But.... it's just "Necro" not "Necrobot".

@  TheMightyMol... : (10 November 2019 - 05:10 PM)

But why does the God of Death need a giant space kaiju? Wait, never mind, answered my own question.

@  Maximus Ambus : (10 November 2019 - 02:15 PM)

Yowza I just realised Titans Trypticon comes with Necro AKA Censere AKA Mortilus.

@  Nevermore : (10 November 2019 - 01:15 PM)

I... think the best equivalent would actually be the British "There is room for improvement".

@  Nevermore : (10 November 2019 - 01:15 PM)

There's always a sense of irony to it, but what the ratio between irony (you really failed) and straightworwardness (at least you achieved something) is depends on the situation and the speaker.

@  Nevermore : (10 November 2019 - 01:12 PM)

The meaning can be both literal (you succeed on one level but fail on another), or it can be utterly ironic (you fail in every regard but the most technical; or even worse, "you really gave your best"), and anything in between.

@  Nevermore : (10 November 2019 - 01:10 PM)

For example: A singer can hit the notes really well, but clearly isn't a native speaker and what little of the lyrics you can make out sounds nothing like what it's supposed to be.

@  wonko the sane? : (10 November 2019 - 01:06 PM)

The premise seems to be the mixing of technical and aesthetic technical qualities towards the overall success.

@  wonko the sane? : (10 November 2019 - 01:05 PM)

But both "hollow victory" and pyrrhic victory" are referring to having lost as much as you've gained. IE; a battle was won but both armies were destroyed. The town being seiged is victorious, but all the soldiers are still dead. Nevermore's concept is more "You did it, but it's so ugly we don't know if you actually succeeded".

@  Sabrblade : (10 November 2019 - 11:35 AM)

Alternately, one could probably also call it a "hollow victory".

@  Sabrblade : (10 November 2019 - 11:35 AM)

Example: In the Powerpuff Girls episode "Uh Oh Dynamo", the monster-of-the-day was a really tough, giant-size one that required the use of a really destructive mech to defeat it. While the monster was ultimately beaten, the city of Townsville was utterly trashed by the mech's weapons in the process. So, while the city was saved from the monster, it was harmed even worse by the mech that saved it, making the victory bittersweet.


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#1 Telly

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Posted 28 July 2008 - 04:23 PM

wasnt sure if this should go in the other DK thread or not, so i started this one. feel free to move/merge it or whatever if thats best

anyway, i was just wondering why the dark knight is going nuts at the box office. sure, its a great movie, but is that the reason? are ppl going to see it massive droves cause its good or cause its heaths last film?
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Posted 28 July 2008 - 04:33 PM

Probably a combination of both. Most reviewers gave it a widely popular review, and I gotta say most people like the more realistic and less campy aspect of Nolans Batman. Ledgers death, while grim and really putting a kink in any future Joker appearances, gave the film a boost to the films advertising. This has got to be the most talked about Batman film since the first Tim Burton film. It's popularity attributes to a very wide media reference and it in itself being a great film. I thought Begins was the best Bat film before but this one outdid it even far greater than I thought it could be done.

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Posted 29 July 2008 - 12:56 AM

Because it's freaking awesome. It's the first movie I've EVER bothered seeing twice in a theater. I have several friends who also went to see it twice on the big screen.

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Posted 29 July 2008 - 01:05 AM

The Dark Knight is playing.

but then again

so is Stepbrothers.

hmmmmmmmmmm

one looks like it could be super awesome

but the other one looks like it might be actually terrible.

I mean my life of usually trying to see great movies is so boring

maybe I should see something awful just to miss it up

I mean live a little, put some varienty oh my theatrical playlist

yea, Stepbrothers sounds like it won't dissapoint

it will be exactly the kind of awful that my summer needs!
Woooo!

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Posted 29 July 2008 - 05:16 AM

The fact Nolan's Batverse is grounded in reality means "The Dark Knight" is less a Super Hero movie and more a High Crime Drama, something Hollywood hasn't had (or at least hasn't had a good one) for the past several years.

Edited by GC Rust, 29 July 2008 - 05:17 AM.


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Posted 29 July 2008 - 09:07 AM

It's well written, incredibly well acted, the special effects are amazing... in short, it's an epic. I didn't give a damn that heath ledger was dead when I went and saw it, I wanted to watch the new batman movie. I got something so much more than just a movie in the process.
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Posted 29 July 2008 - 09:24 AM

The good superhero movies will bring out the public in droves. Spiderman, X-Men, these Batman movies, Iron Man.

These comic-based movies are changing the landscape of Hollywood. Back around the turn of the millenium, I remember getting super excited because Unbreakable was "comic book based" or at things like "The Shadow" because it was a comic character. Pickins were pretty slim until X-Men came along and busted things wide open.

So it's not only a really good comic book movie, a sequel to one that people really liked, but it's also a sublime and phenomenal film in its own right beyond that. It's simply one of the best movies ever made.

That's why it's popular. I mean, it's one thing to get people packed into theaters for FX blockbuster hype-fests like Pirates or yes, even Transformers. Fun is one thing. But a movie like this gets all those people plus all the people who don't like going out for silly fun movies.

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Posted 29 July 2008 - 05:00 PM

I don't know why this movie is doing so well. Batman's not that great a superhero anyway.

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Posted 29 July 2008 - 05:39 PM

QUOTE(Galenraff @ Jul 29 2008, 09:24 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
These comic-based movies are changing the landscape of Hollywood. Back around the turn of the millenium, I remember getting super excited because Unbreakable was "comic book based" or at things like "The Shadow" because it was a comic character. Pickins were pretty slim until X-Men came along and busted things wide open.



True, but at the same time Comic based movies have to be extremely careful not to fall into their own genre's stereotype - being too comic bookish.

So far, the two titans that kick started the Comic Movie buzz - X-Men and Spider-Man - have both floundered because their third entries both went too wild, too crazy. I'm hoping the lessons learned by those two will help keep future Comic movies from traveling down that road as well, but it happened before in the 90s Batman movies, which also started out dark, gritty, and "realistic" then collapsed into a Neon Lighted sequel to Adam West's Batman series.

Then you've got movie series like Superman (or even Ang Lee's Hulk movie) that try to be too cerebral, and forget that at its core, these are Super Hero flicks and Super Hero flicks need super heroics.


And finally, lets not forget it's also thanks to the flood of sub-par Super Hero movies that keep the good ones looking really good. For every X-Men there is a Daredevil, for every Iron Man, there is a Ghost Rider, for every Dark Knight, there is Supergirl.

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Posted 29 July 2008 - 06:18 PM

QUOTE(Nick Shogun @ Jul 29 2008, 05:00 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I don't know why this movie is doing so well. Batman's not that great a superhero anyway.


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Posted 29 July 2008 - 07:02 PM

QUOTE(GC Rust @ Jul 29 2008, 05:39 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
For every X-Men there is a Daredevil, for every Iron Man, there is a Ghost Rider


i LIKED daredevil (the directors cut anyway) and ghost rider...
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Posted 29 July 2008 - 07:11 PM

QUOTE(Telly @ Jul 29 2008, 07:02 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
QUOTE(GC Rust @ Jul 29 2008, 05:39 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
For every X-Men there is a Daredevil, for every Iron Man, there is a Ghost Rider


i LIKED daredevil (the directors cut anyway) and ghost rider...


And I liked Ghost Rider.
Still doesn't even compare to Iron Man.

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Posted 29 July 2008 - 08:21 PM

QUOTE(Nick Shogun @ Jul 29 2008, 05:00 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I don't know why this movie is doing so well. Batman's not that great a superhero anyway.


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Posted 29 July 2008 - 08:55 PM

QUOTE(Zodberg @ Jul 29 2008, 02:05 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
The Dark Knight is playing.

but then again

so is Stepbrothers.

hmmmmmmmmmm

one looks like it could be super awesome

but the other one looks like it might be actually terrible.

I mean my life of usually trying to see great movies is so boring

maybe I should see something awful just to miss it up

I mean live a little, put some varienty oh my theatrical playlist

yea, Stepbrothers sounds like it won't dissapoint

it will be exactly the kind of awful that my summer needs!


I saw both. They were both awesome.