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@  Paladin : (13 November 2019 - 10:45 AM)

sonics' still gonna be a terrible movie but at least they whined loud enough to make him look passable for a 2-minute trailer. "yay."

@  ▲ndrusi : (13 November 2019 - 10:37 AM)

But of course to annoying people there's no such thing as different decisions made for different reasons, there is only "I like it so it's right" and "I don't like it so it's wrong."

@  ▲ndrusi : (13 November 2019 - 10:35 AM)

Even if we pretend it's objective truth that they were both bad, then they were bad in very different ways.

@  ▲ndrusi : (13 November 2019 - 10:33 AM)

Sonic's previous movie design looked genuinely bad. The Transformers '07 designs just looked insufficiently like what certain loud and obnoxious parts of the fandom think Transformers are required to always look like.

@  Otaku : (13 November 2019 - 08:50 AM)

Um... Purple Monkey Dishwasher?

@  TheMightyMol... : (13 November 2019 - 08:25 AM)

Do we really need to have Every Movie Transformer Thread Ever in the Squawkbox?

@  Bass X0 : (13 November 2019 - 08:13 AM)

Sure it made money but that doesn’t mean it has appealing character designs. Lot of god awful fugly faces in the Transformers movies.

@  Otaku : (12 November 2019 - 08:25 PM)

@Liege My issue with Transformers (2007) were elements I thought were unnecessary.  I know it was supposed to just be a joke, but I didn't ever need to hear about "Sam's Happy Time". >.> Which, being in awe of the first "live action" TF-film, didn't even register until I'd already purchased and watched it on DVD a few times (after seeing it in theaters 3 times).

@  Liege : (12 November 2019 - 08:22 PM)

For all the Bayisms in the 07 movie, it was tempered by Spielberg as producer. Designs aside it was an enjoyable popcorn blockbuster about a boy and his first car who happens to be an alien from another planet. They sequels are just Bay going unchecked after he proved how much bank he could bring in.

@  TM2-Megatron : (12 November 2019 - 07:12 PM)

I didn't find the designs in the '07 movie to be that bad, personally. What got really offputting was how Cybertronians in general become such huge a-holes in the later films; the designs were very much secondary to their horrible personalities

@  Sabrblade : (12 November 2019 - 06:59 PM)

And yet, Transformers still broke the bank at the box office, opened up the brand to a whole new generation of fans, shot the brand up to mainstream appeal, and enabled all kinds of new collector-oriented lines and other avenues to come about. Not saying Sonic's movie will do the same for his series, but the 2007 TF movie certainly did more good than harm.

@  Bass X0 : (12 November 2019 - 06:09 PM)

Paramount changed Sonic due to fan backlash but refused to redo Transformers 2007 with new cgi appearances based on their classic forms everyone’s knows and loves, and can relate to. Trailer 1 Sonic is as appealing a design as 2007 Bumblebee...

@  TheMightyMol... : (12 November 2019 - 02:14 PM)

I don't. They're a pain in the ass to repair.

@  Benbot : (12 November 2019 - 12:48 PM)

I wish car companies would bring back flip up headlights

@  TheMightyMol... : (12 November 2019 - 09:07 AM)

Wear a hazmat suit. It's Walmart, they're used to weird.

@  wonko the sane? : (12 November 2019 - 07:54 AM)

2 inches of snow on the side of the house, 2 feet of snow on the deck. I hate this winter already.

@  Tm_Silverclaw : (11 November 2019 - 11:33 PM)

But that requires actually going IN walmart. ;P

@  Liege : (11 November 2019 - 11:22 PM)

Pro tip for anyone hunting the for the Walmart 35th exclusives: try the seasonal aisles rather than the toy section. I found the display with all the exclusives and a bunch of the reflector wave practically untouched amongst those novelty arcade machines and a bunch of frozen merch.

@  SHIELD Agent 47 : (11 November 2019 - 09:45 PM)

Although that does spark an idea for me. In a new continuity, Censere the Necrobot could be the herald Cityspeaker for Quintessa the Necrotitan just to play on their monikers utilizing Greek for dead, nekrós.

@  SHIELD Agent 47 : (11 November 2019 - 09:26 PM)

I hate to burst your bubble, Maximus Ambus, but 90% of things said in IDW turned out to be amnesiac half-rememberings courtesy of Adaptus or outright lies courtesy of Shockwave.

@  Jenny : (11 November 2019 - 08:54 AM)

The toy's designed to look like Wipe-Out, anyway.

@  NotVeryKnightly : (11 November 2019 - 08:14 AM)

Didn't they try to retcon that into a figure of speech because that connection went against everybody else's long-term plans?

@  Maximus Ambus : (11 November 2019 - 03:53 AM)

There's still some connection given Trypticon was created by Mortilus.

@  NotVeryKnightly : (11 November 2019 - 12:12 AM)

Yeah that toy doesn't exactly look like Necrobot.

@  Sabrblade : (10 November 2019 - 08:24 PM)

But.... it's just "Necro" not "Necrobot".

@  TheMightyMol... : (10 November 2019 - 05:10 PM)

But why does the God of Death need a giant space kaiju? Wait, never mind, answered my own question.

@  Maximus Ambus : (10 November 2019 - 02:15 PM)

Yowza I just realised Titans Trypticon comes with Necro AKA Censere AKA Mortilus.

@  Nevermore : (10 November 2019 - 01:15 PM)

I... think the best equivalent would actually be the British "There is room for improvement".

@  Nevermore : (10 November 2019 - 01:15 PM)

There's always a sense of irony to it, but what the ratio between irony (you really failed) and straightworwardness (at least you achieved something) is depends on the situation and the speaker.

@  Nevermore : (10 November 2019 - 01:12 PM)

The meaning can be both literal (you succeed on one level but fail on another), or it can be utterly ironic (you fail in every regard but the most technical; or even worse, "you really gave your best"), and anything in between.

@  Nevermore : (10 November 2019 - 01:10 PM)

For example: A singer can hit the notes really well, but clearly isn't a native speaker and what little of the lyrics you can make out sounds nothing like what it's supposed to be.

@  wonko the sane? : (10 November 2019 - 01:06 PM)

The premise seems to be the mixing of technical and aesthetic technical qualities towards the overall success.

@  wonko the sane? : (10 November 2019 - 01:05 PM)

But both "hollow victory" and pyrrhic victory" are referring to having lost as much as you've gained. IE; a battle was won but both armies were destroyed. The town being seiged is victorious, but all the soldiers are still dead. Nevermore's concept is more "You did it, but it's so ugly we don't know if you actually succeeded".

@  Sabrblade : (10 November 2019 - 11:35 AM)

Alternately, one could probably also call it a "hollow victory".

@  Sabrblade : (10 November 2019 - 11:35 AM)

Example: In the Powerpuff Girls episode "Uh Oh Dynamo", the monster-of-the-day was a really tough, giant-size one that required the use of a really destructive mech to defeat it. While the monster was ultimately beaten, the city of Townsville was utterly trashed by the mech's weapons in the process. So, while the city was saved from the monster, it was harmed even worse by the mech that saved it, making the victory bittersweet.

@  Sabrblade : (10 November 2019 - 11:32 AM)

@Nevermore, sounds to me like what one might call a "bittersweet victory". The goal was met, but at great cost or by disastrous result that call into question if the achieved goal could even be called a success.

@  Arvegtor : (10 November 2019 - 09:40 AM)

Seems to be close enough to "Pyrrhic victory"

@  NotVeryKnightly : (10 November 2019 - 09:37 AM)

What do you get from putting the German term through a translator?

@  wonko the sane? : (10 November 2019 - 08:57 AM)

That is a ridiculously interesting concept. But I don't think english has a singular term for what you're describing.

@  Nevermore : (10 November 2019 - 08:28 AM)

Is there an English equivalent for what we Germans call "deductions in the B rating"? Context: Someone did something and suceeded on a technical level (as in, achieved the intended goal), but failed to some degree in the details, i.e. there was some collateral damage, or while a technical success, the end result is an aestetic failure. It can be used highly ironically, as in "barely achieved the intended goal, but failed so much in every aspect that's not purely technical that it might as well be considered an utter failure altogether." The German term is derived from the old judging syste in figure skating, which gave separate ratings for "technical merit" and "presentation", with the latter being the origin of the German term.

@  SHIELD Agent 47 : (10 November 2019 - 02:32 AM)

Huh. I did not know before today that "medieval" had an alternate spelling "mediaeval". Like "paleontology" and "palaeontology".

@  Maximus Ambus : (09 November 2019 - 04:15 PM)

'Beast Wars in underrated' the comment went. I exploded.

@  PlutoniumBoss : (09 November 2019 - 02:19 PM)

Absolutely.

@  wonko the sane? : (09 November 2019 - 02:14 PM)

So... you can look like a cop from the 70's AND a huge nerd at the same time?

@  PlutoniumBoss : (09 November 2019 - 02:09 PM)

I feel like the best way to carry the Switch would be an under-arm torso holster.

@  Tm_Silverclaw : (09 November 2019 - 12:31 PM)

It's not. hell. If the 3DS zelda case just stretched a LITTLE more it would fit.

@  TheMightyMol... : (09 November 2019 - 03:38 AM)

I feel like the Switch Lite is a bit big to have hanging on your belt like that, but I don't take my Switch out with me often anyway.

@  Tm_Silverclaw : (09 November 2019 - 01:13 AM)

I must be the only one who wants a switch lite case with a belt loop. o.O

@  TheMightyMol... : (08 November 2019 - 03:03 PM)

I'm gonna have "Chainsaw Buffet" and "Candy For the Cannibal" by Lordi playing in my head all night.

@  Maximus Ambus : (08 November 2019 - 12:36 PM)

Trick or treaters can only consent to cannibalism in Germania.


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Posted 27 July 2008 - 12:33 PM

Geoff Johns Brings the Legion to 'Smallville'.

Personally, I'm excited.
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Posted 27 July 2008 - 12:43 PM

that does sound promising.

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Posted 27 July 2008 - 02:10 PM

Pretty cool...but I think this would've worked better around season two or three when the show was still establishing its self. Maybe the Legion will finally be the ones who presude Clark into accepting his ultimate destiny as Superman. I can't wait to see Brainiac 5, Saturn Girl, and Cosmic Lad!!

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Posted 27 July 2008 - 03:07 PM

I'm getting pretty sick of Smallville with no Superman. Adding other heros doesn't really help. At least they abandoned the whole Lana subplot finally.
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Posted 27 July 2008 - 11:21 PM

And STILL no Batman...

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Posted 28 July 2008 - 10:10 AM

Indeed! Where is Batman?



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Posted 28 July 2008 - 10:11 AM

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Posted 28 July 2008 - 10:32 AM

QUOTE(The Predaking @ Jul 28 2008, 11:10 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Indeed! Where is Batman?

He's at home! Washin' his tights!

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Posted 28 July 2008 - 11:28 AM

QUOTE(Dante @ Jul 28 2008, 10:32 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
QUOTE(The Predaking @ Jul 28 2008, 11:10 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Indeed! Where is Batman?

He's at home! Washin' his tights!

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Posted 28 July 2008 - 12:43 PM

QUOTE(Dante @ Jul 28 2008, 08:32 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
QUOTE(The Predaking @ Jul 28 2008, 11:10 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Indeed! Where is Batman?

He's at home! Washin' his tights!

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Awesome......

But anyway, Bruce and Clark are basically the same age these days (yeah I know Bruce is supposed to be older, more like Lex's age), so going by that he's just returning to Gotham at this point to start his career has the owner of Wayne Enterprises and as Batman.

The real reason is that they can't get Warner Bro. to sign of on a Bruce appearance because of the Batman movies. Instead we got Ollie in that role in season six and the upcoming season eight. Oh and the guy that was rumored to supposed to be Bruce that turned out to be just another meteor freak back in season three (or was it two) Adam Knight.

As to the topic at hand.....once more Smallville jumps the shark and I'm all for it.


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Posted 28 July 2008 - 04:50 PM

Can he even fly yet? I stopped watching this show when Bart showed up.

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Posted 29 July 2008 - 03:27 PM

There is still a Batman embargo imposed on Smallville because of Batman Begins and The Dark Knight. You'd think though with the success of those two movies Warner Bros would be smart and release the embargo and let the Smallville fans have what we want and that is Bruce Wayne. We already bascially got him with Green Arrow as was mentioned above. Great quote from the Tim Burton Batman btw I laughed my ass off! Not one to defend Smallville but the series was never suppossed to be about Superman in the first place. Smallville was always designed to be about Clark Kent BEFORE he becomes Superman...so to say that you're getting sick and tired of watching Smallville without Superman doesn't really make that much sense since it isn't about Superman. I will agree though Clark ducking his destiny for this long and acting somewhat out of character is pissing a lot of fans off from this show. The theme of this season though from what the new showrunners have said seems to be finally getting Clark around to becoming Superman. I assume that the Legion is just another way of doing that.
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Posted 29 July 2008 - 05:51 PM

Why do Smallville fans want Batman so much? They haven't even gotten Superman yet.
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Posted 29 July 2008 - 07:37 PM

Early on fans wanted Batman mostly because Smallville started out as a proposal for a Young Bruce Wayne series. I think people wanted to see a young Clark Kent interacting with a young Bruce Wayne. Their original proposal for Bruce was that he would have gone to private school with Lex Luthor, the two of them forming a rivalry, and Bruce being a love interest for Lana. Clark would have a line along the lines of "That guy has serious issues." As a previous poster stated these plans were botched and the character turned out to be Adam Knight instead. Their Batman plans were then moved on to Green Arrow.

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Posted 30 July 2008 - 11:47 AM

I'm not sure I'll even bother watching Smallville in the fall. I've had the season finale sitting on my hard drive for weeks and haven't watched it yet.

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Posted 30 July 2008 - 09:48 PM

^ I've been having the same debate in my head. I care less and less about the show all the time. Enough is changing this year that I might keep going, if only to see if it improves. Realistically though, I doubt it will, which is what's making me want to keep watching.

It's one of those things where the show used to be so good, and I'm afraid that as soon as I stop watching, it'll be as good or better again. When really, it had an alright season, then two freaking fantastically good seasons, followed by 4 bad ones now each one only having bits and peices of interesting story.

I have DVR now though. I'll probably let them stack up and watch them when I feel like it, rather than feeling like it's an obligation.

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Posted 31 July 2008 - 01:52 PM

I gave up on the show around the middle of the season when Lana went off to college. It just got really repetitive, with the same three or four big teases over and over again. The introduction of other super heroes really seems to me to be more of a stall tactic than anything else: it's a way to keep Clark occupied so he doesn't have to choose the girl we know he gets, get the job we know he gets, and takes up the destiny we know he ends up with.

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Posted 31 July 2008 - 02:53 PM

Well my stance on season eight is pretty simple. I'll be watching the premire for sure, since the Justice League is involved and the comic con footage of Tess looks great, she's another Smallville hottie! Maxima is coming, and I'll be around for the Legion episodes. Its been confirmed that Lana is returning in November for sweeps so I'll be avoiding those episodes like the plauge. Also it appears from reading recent TV Guide interviews with the showrunners that Ollie is going be going through somekind of reflection process which I hope doesn't destroy his character completely. Also episode six has Jimmy and Clark discovering the letter that Chloe wrote Clark way back in season two's "Fever" I don't know how that is even possible since I thought Chloe destroyed that letter. I'll be sniffing around this season but not watching every week like I have been the previous four or five seaons.

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