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@  PlutoniumBoss : (04 August 2020 - 09:03 PM)

Unless you count the Mask vs Lobo special, but that's less a duel and more a duet.

@  PlutoniumBoss : (04 August 2020 - 08:52 PM)

My favorite crossover fight was Thor vs Shazam/Captain Marvel. Early in the fight, Thor discovers that Billy Batson needs lightning to transform, and being a god of lightning he simply denies him that.

@  Sabrblade : (04 August 2020 - 08:46 PM)

Let's see a fight between Death Battle and Super Power Beat Down

@  TheMightyMol... : (04 August 2020 - 06:15 PM)

Which Lobo later claimed was because he was paid to take a dive. Yes, really.

@  TheMightyMol... : (04 August 2020 - 06:15 PM)

And then there's the times it's been decided by a fan vote, which is how we get things like Lobo (who can go toe-to-toe with Superman at full strength) losing to Wolverine.

@  Nevermore : (04 August 2020 - 05:49 PM)

And then there are the "but my favorite characater will totes win because I say so" people.

@  Nevermore : (04 August 2020 - 05:49 PM)

I mean, there are some people who really approach this from a somewhat reasonable standpoint, coming up with a plausible scenario and a setting that creates a fair environment that doesn't favor one character.

@  Nevermore : (04 August 2020 - 05:46 PM)

My favorite stupid "why would they even fight each other" question recently was about three versions of Optimus Prime (G1, Bayverse and Aligned).

@  Nevermore : (04 August 2020 - 05:45 PM)

Batman obviously can beat everyone. Even Galactus. He's Batman. He's so smart, he'll just throw a Batarang and hit the weak spot at Galactus's forehead, knocking him out instantaneously.

@  wonko the sane? : (04 August 2020 - 11:37 AM)

It's almost like all drama is just manufactured pissing contests to keep us all entertained and distracted. :p

@  Tm_Silverclaw : (04 August 2020 - 10:16 AM)

Or they could go White Ranger vs Scorpion route and have both win. ;P

@  ▲ndrusi : (04 August 2020 - 09:35 AM)

Besides, we all know the answer is nearly always "they fight to a standstill and then team up against a common enemy."

@  ▲ndrusi : (04 August 2020 - 09:29 AM)

The best way to prove this is to give an example where the match is really lopsided in favor of one character but in popularity they're either evenly matched or the weaker one is more popular.

@  ▲ndrusi : (04 August 2020 - 09:27 AM)

The "who would win in a fight" discussions are really just people trying to make "which one's better" into something you can theoretically measure objectively, usually in a very specific way they think they've predetermined their favorite will win.

@  Otaku : (04 August 2020 - 02:01 AM)

@Nevermore So... you're saying you didn't like DC Versus Marvel/Marvel Versus DC?

@  Steevy Maximus : (03 August 2020 - 06:59 PM)

So, what happened to Hasbro's Zoids relaunch? An English dub, some stuff in southeast Asia, and now a game coming in October? That it?

@  wonko the sane? : (03 August 2020 - 10:46 AM)

Tidal wave, cause shooting water gets you nowhere.

@  Darth Gonzo : (03 August 2020 - 09:57 AM)

Who would win Tidal Wave or Broadside?

@  -LittleAutob... : (03 August 2020 - 08:17 AM)

Btw Happy birthday to those people in the box to the right \o/

@  -LittleAutob... : (03 August 2020 - 08:16 AM)

The bottom line is obvious. It makes no literal sense to fight someone on your faction. :/

@  wonko the sane? : (03 August 2020 - 06:14 AM)

That's because you're doing it wrong. You're supposed to just stack skills and ability against each other. It's not the palace of doom, it's an episode of american gladiators.

@  Nevermore : (03 August 2020 - 04:32 AM)

The only obvious winners of such a fight would be the bad guys.

@  Nevermore : (03 August 2020 - 04:29 AM)

And what does it even matter? They should work together, not stupidly fight each other for the mindless entertainment of idiot onlookers.

@  Nevermore : (03 August 2020 - 04:29 AM)

Why would two good guys fight each other? What are they fighting over?

@  Nevermore : (03 August 2020 - 04:28 AM)

I never understood these "who would win in a fight between two good guys" discussions. They make no sense to me.

@  Maximus Ambus : (02 August 2020 - 04:17 PM)

If G1 had continued we'd have had Starscream back in spirit - through Krunk, Snapdragons partner and possibly Skullcruncher unless he was mute.

@  Bass X0 : (02 August 2020 - 12:28 PM)

There are some decent impersonators in fandubs though.

@  -LittleAutob... : (02 August 2020 - 10:45 AM)

The only true Starscream voices are Steve Blum and Chris Latta, hands down.

@  Sabrblade : (02 August 2020 - 10:14 AM)

Why they didn't have Scott McNeil voicing that Starscream, when he was the one who had imitated Chris Latta when he voiced Cobra Commander in the DiC G.I. Joe cartoon, is beyond me.

@  wonko the sane? : (02 August 2020 - 09:57 AM)

Say what you will, that was an awesome scene.

@  Maximus Ambus : (02 August 2020 - 08:36 AM)

Beast Wars Starsream "I am AIR COMMANDER Starscream of the DECEPTICON BATTLEFLEET!"

@  Nevermore : (02 August 2020 - 07:02 AM)

I liked TF: Prime Starscream.

@  -LittleAutob... : (01 August 2020 - 08:36 PM)

Hearing Starscream's screechy voice in Cyberverse has to be the most annoying thing ever in Transformers. Even his G1 voice wasn't as bad. :doh

@  -LittleAutob... : (01 August 2020 - 08:35 PM)

KUP!

@  Sabrblade : (01 August 2020 - 04:58 PM)

Urkel!

@  TheMightyMol... : (01 August 2020 - 03:16 PM)

Steeeeeeeeve.

@  PlutoniumBoss : (01 August 2020 - 02:57 AM)

LEEEROOOOOOOOY! jhenkenz...

@  Hg Dragon : (01 August 2020 - 01:21 AM)

Candleja-

@  Sabrblade : (31 July 2020 - 11:02 PM)

Beetlejuice! Beetlejuice! Beetlejuice!

@  Echowarrior : (31 July 2020 - 10:18 PM)

Spongebob!

@  TheMightyMol... : (31 July 2020 - 05:13 PM)

KHAAAAAAAN

@  PlutoniumBoss : (31 July 2020 - 03:04 PM)

Bueller? Bueller?

@  Jet : (31 July 2020 - 11:31 AM)

DONKEY!

@  Maximus Ambus : (31 July 2020 - 06:55 AM)

Spanner

@  Xaaron : (31 July 2020 - 06:49 AM)

Jetstorm

@  Nevermore : (31 July 2020 - 05:33 AM)

Tankor

@  SG Roadbuster : (31 July 2020 - 04:44 AM)

Overrun

@  lastmaximal : (31 July 2020 - 01:33 AM)

Buckethead

@  TheMightyMol... : (30 July 2020 - 07:15 PM)

Now I wonder how many Transformers we can name with the fewest possible different names.

@  Nevermore : (30 July 2020 - 06:38 PM)

Ransack. That's like another 20 or so.


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#41 Maxx Blast

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Posted 18 July 2008 - 02:23 PM

QUOTE(Crazy Drummer? @ Jul 18 2008, 02:13 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
im curious what you mean by this "I just said they gave up on the gamer market"

whats the "gamer market"?


Late teens to 20something males. Most disposable income, most time, least responsibility, easiest to appeal to.

Basically, the group that makes the truly good M rated games into the juggernauts of the industry.
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Posted 18 July 2008 - 02:41 PM

QUOTE(Invincible M @ Jul 18 2008, 03:23 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
QUOTE(Crazy Drummer? @ Jul 18 2008, 02:13 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
im curious what you mean by this "I just said they gave up on the gamer market"

whats the "gamer market"?


Late teens to 20something males. Most disposable income, most time, least responsibility, easiest to appeal to.

Basically, the group that makes the truly good M rated games into the juggernauts of the industry.

If anything they are trying to widen the gamer market by not selling to one specific demographic. I know most of you guys see the gamer market is limited to what Invincible said, but Nintendo was smart enough business wise to realize that targeting the larger market could get more cash. Thats what the threads about, not which systems better, what games better, or even what internet services they offer.

Sure I'm not saying it's a great move towards our demographic, it sucks cause Nintendo is more about pleasing everyone than focusing on a awesome title ap to keep us 20 somethings thrilled. But it was a smart business move despite how you look at it. It's essentially the same move Square-Enix just did with FF XIII. Why focus on one market when there is another part of the market that is willing to try my product out that we haven't exploited yet.

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#43 The Predaking

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Posted 18 July 2008 - 02:49 PM

It's a broad term, I'll grant you that, so let me redefine what I meant.

Nintendo has given up trying to compete for the demographic of Males aged 14-30. They have focused on a larger broader appeal, and you can tell from the numbers, it's working for them. They are trying to go after the casual gamer by focusing on mini-game games, light gun games, and exercise/sport games. Sure, they still have Mario, Zelda, Metroid, and Brawl, but what else? What else is coming? They seem to be more focused on getting out Wiiresort and WiiMusic rather than develop a new IP(or revive an older one) to target the traditional Gamer market.

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Posted 18 July 2008 - 03:30 PM

Pikmin 3 is coming to Wii, for a revival IP. And MS is starting to follow Nintendo's lead by expanding into more casual gaming; getting into Avatars and their game channel with 1 vs 100, being able to share pictures with friends, and watching Netflix from your Xbox as well. Then they is stuff like You're in the Movies, Scene it, Lips, and other such titles. "Hey, We can do Casual too!" is the big thing I got from MS's E3 presentation.

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Posted 18 July 2008 - 03:37 PM

QUOTE(Database @ Jul 18 2008, 03:30 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Pikmin 3 is coming to Wii, for a revival IP. And MS is starting to follow Nintendo's lead by expanding into more casual gaming; getting into Avatars and their game channel with 1 vs 100, being able to share pictures with friends, and watching Netflix from your Xbox as well. Then they is stuff like You're in the Movies, Scene it, Lips, and other such titles. "Hey, We can do Casual too!" is the big thing I got from MS's E3 presentation.


Yeah, but meanwhile, Soul Caliber 4, Too Human, Halo Wars, Fallout 3, Resident Evil 5, Star Wars Force Unleashed, and Gears of War 2 coming on the 360 in the next 9 months.

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#46 Shadewing

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Posted 18 July 2008 - 03:58 PM

I wouldn't count Force Unleashed, as its coming to Wii as well. And only three of these did they give any time to in their presentation, before going into and spending the rest of the time, about how they are going Casual. Ending with an almost boring Squeenix presentation until the announcement of FF13 for 360.

Also for Wii, there is Dead Rising (Which someone mentioned Wii'd never get), Mad World, Deadly Creatures, Star Wars Force Unleashed, and Star Wars Clone Wars. Which people seem to over look just so they can say "HA HA Nintendo's got nothing coming!"

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Posted 18 July 2008 - 04:12 PM

QUOTE(Database @ Jul 18 2008, 03:58 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I wouldn't count Force Unleashed, as its coming to Wii as well. And only three of these did they give any time to in their presentation, before going into and spending the rest of the time, about how they are going Casual. Ending with an almost boring Squeenix presentation until the announcement of FF13 for 360.

Also for Wii, there is Dead Rising (Which someone mentioned Wii'd never get), Mad World, Deadly Creatures, Star Wars Force Unleashed, and Star Wars Clone Wars. Which people seem to over look just so they can say "HA HA Nintendo's got nothing coming!"


I actually enjoyed the other SE games, I'll definitely be checking up on them later on.

Force Unleashed, IIRC, is a scaled down version of what the game truly is. Dead Rising looks like it could be fun, depending on how they pull it off. I haven't seen or head anything about Mad world or Deadly Creatures, and Clone wars looked like another movie tie game to me.

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