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[Bigbot]

Wow, remind me again, when was it officially decided that sales for the main console make it a good system?

I thought it was the games that decided, my bad. :|

Well done for getting the wrong end of the stick. The thread is called 'best selling' not best or good, and whatever the games are, the wii is now undeniably the best selling system.

[RYNO]

Yeah this is not a shocker one bit. When you sell a Console, for much less than the competition, and then make it fun to play, which no one can really dispute, when playing with friends, it is a fun system, and add Name Recognition, it's going to sell.

I honestly believe the PS3 is the best system, at least the First run 60 Gig Models with full backwards Compatibility with PS1 and PS2 games, not to mention a Blueray player too boot.

But when I went to go buy that system, I had the PS3 that day. However with the Wii it took my Fiance over 2 months of searching and she never found one, and myself 4 days of hard searching before I found one. The Wii is very popular for many reasons.

This statistic is not shocking, and I do give props to The Big N, as I think from a Marketing Standpoint it was well conceived and well deserved.

Edited by RYNO, 18 July 2008 - 07:16 AM.

[The Predaking]

I wonder what all these Wii owners are playing then considering 360 games have outsold Wii and PS3 games combined. Must be a lot of wii sports going on or a ton of them are sitting on Ebay or something.

They certainly showed Sony and Microsoft how to play the console war game.

By having the cheapest system on the market and completely giving up on the gaming demographic?

[Bigbot]

I wonder what all these Wii owners are playing then considering 360 games have outsold Wii and PS3 games combined. Must be a lot of wii sports going on or a ton of them are sitting on Ebay or something.

They certainly showed Sony and Microsoft how to play the console war game.

By having the cheapest system on the market and completely giving up on the gaming demographic?

I can't speak for the US but over here a core 360 is ?159.99 and a wii is ?179.99 and it's still outselling 360's where I work

[wonko the sane?]

I wonder what all these Wii owners are playing then considering 360 games have outsold Wii and PS3 games combined. Must be a lot of wii sports going on or a ton of them are sitting on Ebay or something.

They certainly showed Sony and Microsoft how to play the console war game.

By having the cheapest system on the market and completely giving up on the gaming demographic?

The Wii actually has a LOT of good games. Granted, for each copy of "the godfather" there's a copy of "Jenga". Even ignoring the core brands for nintendo, there's no shortage of decent and respectable gameage.

You know what? I seriously don't get this. If you don't like the system, don't buy it. If you bought it and don't like it, sell it and move on already. Why keep whining about something so petty as some pretty lights on a TV screen. Fine, you got a hate on for nintendo/sony/microsoft/atari/yoo-hoo/pepsi/fire ants/dodge trucks/the general quality of road pavement, why come into a thread and be a downer when the people there like it fine. We get it already, you don't like it. We do, stop ruining our good time!

[Rust]

Go Nintendo They certainly showed Sony and Microsoft how to play the console war game.

While I give props to Nintendo for finally getting their act together, you can't really say Nintendo's winning this Console War.

Because, in their own words, Nintendo isn't participating in the Console War any longer. It's why the Wii and DS have ceased as pure Gaming machines and have become quasi-appliances. Nintendo's diversifying its machines into the Apple of Gaming Companies.

The sales of the console determine where the games go.

Doubtful. And that's not a slam on Nintendo, but let's face it - Modern day Gaming is about Graphical Horsepower. Let's not kid ourselves on this fact. Crysis' popularity stemmed solely from the fact it was such a gorgeous looking game that barely any rig beyond a super computer could run it at max settings. If it hadn't been for that, Crysis would have been yet another shooter in a sea of shooters.

Nintendo's Wii, while immensely popular and deserving all the games that come its way, will never achieve the same importance or status as the likes of the Xbox or Playstation simply because both those systems can handle more graphics and gameplay options. The fact the Xbox and Playstation are also fully Online consoles (Without the need for Friends Codes and the like), and again...developers are going to take advantage of those systems first.


Nintendo's got a lot going for them right now. The introduction of Wii Speak will go a long way in opening development doors for their console. But ultimately, I doubt we'll see a huge influx of popular games for the Nintendo system. Nintendo's taking baby steps, but it really is moving away from Gaming in general. I expect more games like Brain Age, WiiFit, and WiiSports then say Final Fantasy or Metal Gear.


And for Nintendo and their demographic, there is absolutely nothing wrong with that. Wii Sports + Three Other People = A damn good time.

[PiratedTVPro]

It's why the Wii and DS have ceased as pure Gaming machines and have become quasi-appliances.

I think if you really want to be truthful you'd switch that around and put PS3
and 360 in there instead of Wii and DS. They are pure gaming machines and
focused on nothing else. Can you say the same of the 360 and PS3? Which
ones are really "quasi-appliances"?

Now, I own a 360 for all of its many features, and it is definitely a selling point
but it's really not fair to throw something out there that's just blatantly untrue.

[Rust]

Now, I own a 360 for all of its many features, and it is definitely a selling point
but it's really not fair to throw something out there that's just blatantly untrue.

Huh?

The Playstation and Xbox are glorified computers.

The Wii and the DS have multipurpose functions to them. Brain Age is less a game and more a mental exercise, WiiFit is less a game and more a piece of exercise equipment. The DS GPS kiosks showing up in airports...


Saying the Wii and DS are quasi-appliances or that Nintendo is the Apple of the Gaming Industry is in no way a slam against the company. In fact, I applaud them for the ingenuity of it.

[MatrixPrime]

Here we go again. Can we we please stop with this console war bullcrap?

All camps have called a truce at my place, I own all the consoles

[MatrixPrime]

Now, I own a 360 for all of its many features, and it is definitely a selling point
but it's really not fair to throw something out there that's just blatantly untrue.

Huh?

The Playstation and Xbox are glorified computers.

The Wii and the DS have multipurpose functions to them. Brain Age is less a game and more a mental exercise, WiiFit is less a game and more a piece of exercise equipment. The DS GPS kiosks showing up in airports...


Saying the Wii and DS are quasi-appliances or that Nintendo is the Apple of the Gaming Industry is in no way a slam against the company. In fact, I applaud them for the ingenuity of it.

Uhhhh, ALL consolses/handhelds are glorified computers. And last I checked, all current-gen consoles are also multi-purpose as well.

[Galenraff]

Now, I own a 360 for all of its many features, and it is definitely a selling point
but it's really not fair to throw something out there that's just blatantly untrue.

Huh?

The Playstation and Xbox are glorified computers.

The Wii and the DS have multipurpose functions to them. Brain Age is less a game and more a mental exercise, WiiFit is less a game and more a piece of exercise equipment. The DS GPS kiosks showing up in airports...


Saying the Wii and DS are quasi-appliances or that Nintendo is the Apple of the Gaming Industry is in no way a slam against the company. In fact, I applaud them for the ingenuity of it.

"Appliance" generally means that it's a machine or a device suited for one particular purpose. The usage here being that 360 and PS3 are for hardcore gaming and that's it, thus they're appliances. Meanwhile, Nintendo has systems that are for a broader array of uses, making them not so much an appliance.

I think the way you originally meant it was you were implying that Nintendo's systems are less "game system" and instead can be described more broadly as "general household electronics."

I think you're both right, you just stumbled over the definition of "appliance" a little, but I hope that helps clear up any confusion.

[MintBerryCrunch]

I'll get a Wii when Metal Gear Solid 4 is released for it. Never.

[ChessPieceFace]

Now, I own a 360 for all of its many features, and it is definitely a selling point
but it's really not fair to throw something out there that's just blatantly untrue.

Huh?

The Playstation and Xbox are glorified computers.

The Wii and the DS have multipurpose functions to them. Brain Age is less a game and more a mental exercise, WiiFit is less a game and more a piece of exercise equipment. The DS GPS kiosks showing up in airports...


Saying the Wii and DS are quasi-appliances or that Nintendo is the Apple of the Gaming Industry is in no way a slam against the company. In fact, I applaud them for the ingenuity of it.

"Appliance" generally means that it's a machine or a device suited for one particular purpose. The usage here being that 360 and PS3 are for hardcore gaming and that's it, thus they're appliances. Meanwhile, Nintendo has systems that are for a broader array of uses, making them not so much an appliance.

I think the way you originally meant it was you were implying that Nintendo's systems are less "game system" and instead can be described more broadly as "general household electronics."

I think you're both right, you just stumbled over the definition of "appliance" a little, but I hope that helps clear up any confusion.

Personally, I still don't understand the comparison, whatever term is used. The 360 and PS3 are the ones setting themselves up as multimedia devices. DVD/Blu-Ray playback, HD, Windows Media connection for videos and music, NetFlix, etc.

The Wii and DS are game systems alone. Each has a fairly gimpy web browser, and you can plug in an SD card to play pictures, but the Wii is hardly a media center like the other two. Brain Age and WiiFit are just as much games as Rock Band or DDR, but a Blu-Ray movie is definitely not a game.

So... yeah. I don't follow the point here.

[skankerzero]

This doesn't surprise me at all.

In fact, the only reason the numbers are so low is because 70% of the people who want one can't find them still.

It makes me feel bad, because I'm not a Wii fan, and I can order them direct from Nintendo through work. We have access to as many as we want.

I bought one for my niece a month ago, but haven't really taken advantage of it like I should have.

[FortMax]

*starts digging for something to blackmail skankerzero with*

Are you going to be doing a promotion at GameStop's main offices any time soon?

[skankerzero]

*starts digging for something to blackmail skankerzero with*

Are you going to be doing a promotion at GameStop's main offices any time soon?

we might do a promotion at a local Gamestop here in Lewisville.

And if you want a Wii, just ask. We should be getting another order together very soon.
The Wii and all the Wii devices are standard price. Nintendo stopped giving discounts to 3rd party developers.

Edited by skankerzero, 18 July 2008 - 01:33 PM.

[The Predaking]

I wonder what all these Wii owners are playing then considering 360 games have outsold Wii and PS3 games combined. Must be a lot of wii sports going on or a ton of them are sitting on Ebay or something.

They certainly showed Sony and Microsoft how to play the console war game.

By having the cheapest system on the market and completely giving up on the gaming demographic?

The Wii actually has a LOT of good games. Granted, for each copy of "the godfather" there's a copy of "Jenga". Even ignoring the core brands for nintendo, there's no shortage of decent and respectable gameage.

You know what? I seriously don't get this. If you don't like the system, don't buy it. If you bought it and don't like it, sell it and move on already. Why keep whining about something so petty as some pretty lights on a TV screen. Fine, you got a hate on for nintendo/sony/microsoft/atari/yoo-hoo/pepsi/fire ants/dodge trucks/the general quality of road pavement, why come into a thread and be a downer when the people there like it fine. We get it already, you don't like it. We do, stop ruining our good time!

I'm just voicing my opinion on the thing. I never said I didn't like the machine, I just said they gave up o the gamer market(which they have. They are trying to sell consoles to your grandma now), and they have the cheapest system out there(which I don't even count the joke of the Arcade/Core SKU, though I guess you could point that out. Regardless, the system is a lot cheaper than the Premium 360 and 40 GB PS3.) There are a few games out there for it that I want, but not enough for me to go out and buy it right now. I can like it and point out it's faults you know. People can be fans of something without being an unrealistic Zealot over it.

[wonko the sane?]

They can try to sell a system to my grandma all they want. She's a tight assed bitch, and dead too.

And I wasn't necessarily referring to you predaking. Yes, you can like a system and still point out it's faults, but people like arsenal are intent on hating it, pointing out it's faults and trying to make every one else hate it to.

[Crazy Drummer?]

im curious what you mean by this "I just said they gave up on the gamer market"

whats the "gamer market"?

[FortMax]

*starts digging for something to blackmail skankerzero with*

Are you going to be doing a promotion at GameStop's main offices any time soon?

we might do a promotion at a local Gamestop here in Lewisville.

And if you want a Wii, just ask. We should be getting another order together very soon.
The Wii and all the Wii devices are standard price. Nintendo stopped giving discounts to 3rd party developers.

I already have one. Plus, blackmailing you is free Plus, I live about 10 miles from Gamestop's HQ.