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@  wonko the sane? : (19 September 2020 - 06:35 PM)

I loved what was there, and think it's pretty ripe for "renegades" style reboot.

@  Rycochet : (19 September 2020 - 03:13 PM)

It's a shame as I loved Spiral Zone, and the design from the Japanese Toyline of the same name are fantastic, I adore the monowheel motorbike.

@  Rycochet : (19 September 2020 - 03:12 PM)

Hasbro doesn't seem to have any interest in doing anything with the TV show, haven't greenlit any attempt to rerelease it, and there have been approaches, so I think it may be aother one of Tonka's legal carcrashes where everyone involved owns a piece and it's not really worth anyone sticking their neck out to claim ownership.

@  Steevy Maximus : (19 September 2020 - 01:47 PM)

I feel that homages and references would be a fun way to expand the GI Joe brand, and give a little love to lines that are unlikely to be acknowledged beyond such capacity.

@  Steevy Maximus : (19 September 2020 - 01:47 PM)

I was under the impression that Bandai was more the character design aspects, not story or characters.

@  Rycochet : (19 September 2020 - 12:55 PM)

Also isn't it in rights limbo, given how it's loosely based on concepts from a BanDai series much like GoBots?

@  Rycochet : (19 September 2020 - 12:52 PM)

We don't need a Spiral Zone reboot, in a decade or so we'll be living it.

@  wonko the sane? : (19 September 2020 - 12:49 PM)

Yeah, but it would fundamentally change the base premise of both gijoe and spiral zone. It's either not the world spanning threat it was, or the zone riders are backed up by a competent force. Either way, you compromise the context of both.

@  Steevy Maximus : (19 September 2020 - 12:19 PM)

Akin to what was done with Matt Tracker in 2008.

@  Steevy Maximus : (19 September 2020 - 12:18 PM)

Again, not a PURE transplant, but an integration of ideas and concepts into the world of GI Joe.

@  Steevy Maximus : (19 September 2020 - 12:18 PM)

@Wonko The Cobra Overlord, with help from Dr. Mindbender and Cesspool, develops machines capable of generating a mind-controlling fog. GI Joe stalwarts Flint, Airtight, Lifeline, and Psyche-Out are joined by Colonal Courage to infiltrate these zones and disable the machines. Figures would sport hostile environment suits (Eco warriors cross with Spiral Zone) and make new versions of the mono-wheel vehicles.

@  Maximus Ambus : (19 September 2020 - 09:39 AM)

Hasbroverse.2 with bought properties: Bravestarr, Ulysses 31, Galaxy Rangers, Shadow Raiders, Manta Force, Jayce and the Wheeled Warriors, Mighty Orbots, Jem and Bigfoot and the Muscle Machines. Seamless.

@  wonko the sane? : (19 September 2020 - 08:32 AM)

While acknoledging spiral zone would be pretty boss, I doubt they could actively integrate it into anything else: given the scale of the villains deeds.

@  Steevy Maximus : (19 September 2020 - 08:03 AM)

COPS, Spiral Zone, Shadow Strikers, Action Man, Centurions, MegaForce. They wouldn’t replicate the old lines, but simply acknowledging their existence would be nifty.

@  Steevy Maximus : (19 September 2020 - 08:01 AM)

I would love to see GI Joe become something of a “celebration of action figures”. Hasbro has SO MANY old action figure properties, and many could slot into the GI Joe umbrella with relative ease.

@  Otaku : (19 September 2020 - 12:04 AM)

G.I. Joe, CyberCOPS, and M.A.S.K. all seem like something that would work from Animated or Prime, though CyberCOPS might have been a bit trickier from Prime.

@  Sabrblade : (18 September 2020 - 11:02 PM)

Rik Alvarez originally wanted the last episode of Prime to spinoff into a new MASK reboot.

@  Otaku : (18 September 2020 - 08:19 PM)

The failed Hasbroverse reminds me how so many things could have been spun off from Transformers: Animated and (after that) Transformers: Prime.

@  ▲ndrusi : (18 September 2020 - 12:43 PM)

Requiem of the Wreckers was post-Revolution, but it was also, you know, a single issue.

@  NotVeryKnightly : (18 September 2020 - 11:06 AM)

But Roche didn't have a series to keep out from the crossovers since Sins of the Wreckers was before Revolution.

@  NotVeryKnightly : (18 September 2020 - 11:01 AM)

Oh wait, that post said Roche, not Barber.

@  Rycochet : (18 September 2020 - 10:46 AM)

And then seemed surprised nobody particlarly wanted it.

@  NotVeryKnightly : (18 September 2020 - 10:25 AM)

Wasn't Barber among the editorial guys that pushed for Hasbroverse?

@  Maximus Ambus : (18 September 2020 - 10:19 AM)

He did it possibly due to 616 Spider-Mans marriage reset between Civil War and Secret Invasion.

@  ▲ndrusi : (18 September 2020 - 09:20 AM)

Bendis kept a tight leash on Ultimate Spider-Man because it was mostly set far away from Earth?

@  -LittleAutob... : (18 September 2020 - 08:49 AM)

I'm learning so much-

@  Maruten : (18 September 2020 - 04:21 AM)

At its worst it was better than MASK, sure.

@  Maximus Ambus : (18 September 2020 - 02:15 AM)

At it's worst it still stomped all over the failed Hasbroverse. Roberts and Roche kept their respective series well out of that one for the same reasons Bendis kept a tight leash on Ultimate Spider-Man when Loeb and Miller wanted greater control for Ultimatum.

@  Maruten : (17 September 2020 - 06:37 PM)

That's so accurate it's physically painful.

@  Rycochet : (17 September 2020 - 02:05 PM)

The Red Dwarf of Transformers? An interesting, innovative and genuinely funny series that descended into a self referential mess of cliches that continues long after it should have been put out to pasture and rendered nerly everyone thoroughly unlikeable? That seems about right.

@  Bass X0 : (17 September 2020 - 01:59 PM)

MTMTE and Lost Light are the Red Dwarf of Transformers stories, as opposed to the others which are more like Star Wars and Star Trek.

@  Kalidor : (17 September 2020 - 01:37 PM)

Anyone in CONUS want a Skylynx for $100 shipped?

@  Maximus Ambus : (17 September 2020 - 01:34 PM)

Maybe an acquired taste in that's in that it's from a fan raised on the UK run where Transformers wasn't taken so seriously in many stories, especially some Earthforce standalones.

@  Paladin : (17 September 2020 - 09:47 AM)

so, terrible?

@  ▲ndrusi : (17 September 2020 - 09:26 AM)

Yeah I think at that point Lost Light is just the '86 movie without the soundtrack.

@  NotVeryKnightly : (17 September 2020 - 02:28 AM)

So, exctly what Triangleman just said.

@  Bass X0 : (17 September 2020 - 12:36 AM)

A few of the same characters.

@  ▲ndrusi : (17 September 2020 - 12:07 AM)

Now having actually read Galaxies #10, I don't actually see what it has in common with Lost Light at all besides featuring Ultra Magnus, Chromedome, and a spaceship.

@  ▲ndrusi : (16 September 2020 - 05:33 PM)

So, it's exactly like Lost Light, then.

@  Bass X0 : (16 September 2020 - 01:52 PM)

What if Lost Light was stripped bare of its charm and humor? Galaxies #10 is the answer.

@  ▲ndrusi : (16 September 2020 - 01:49 PM)

I didn't mean "*exactly* 15 years ago and no other time."

@  NotVeryKnightly : (16 September 2020 - 12:27 AM)

I mean, the comment was about a linewide gimmick of 15 years ago, not a gimmick only present in a minority of toys from that year.

@  Maximus Ambus : (16 September 2020 - 12:14 AM)

I'd like a western take on the UT for it's twentieth, like a annual CG or anime movie on Netflix that is a condensed retelling similar to the film Macross/Robotech: Do You Remember Love.

@  Maximus Ambus : (16 September 2020 - 12:11 AM)

Giant Planet had them, Energon had a few. I've been disappointed in Siege for not having something for the Micromasters, Earthrise has with the base bots but they've been wasted here.

@  NotVeryKnightly : (15 September 2020 - 10:47 PM)

Wasn't 15 years ago Cyber Keys rather than Minicons?

@  Steevy Maximus : (15 September 2020 - 09:38 PM)

By and large, even the worst Minicons have some unique engineering or design elements. The nostalgia factor aside, Micromasters got pretty samey after you got several, especially the "proper" 89 series.

@  unluckiness : (15 September 2020 - 07:13 PM)

There's certainly a load of crummy ones to sift through

@  TheMightyMol... : (15 September 2020 - 05:29 PM)

Or both. There's some overlap.

@  wonko the sane? : (15 September 2020 - 03:19 PM)

People either hated minicons or became completely addicted to them.

@  ▲ndrusi : (15 September 2020 - 03:17 PM)

A properly-planned theme, or as people called it 15 years ago, a stupid linewide baby toy gimmick that ruins the toys.


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#1 MrBlud

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Posted 17 July 2008 - 04:53 PM

Via Nintendo themselves

The big N is back on top!

Best selling home console and best selling portable console.

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Posted 17 July 2008 - 05:00 PM

Of course - even though casual gamers don't buy as many games as proper gamers do, casual gamers out number proper gamers.

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Posted 17 July 2008 - 05:19 PM

They deserve the portable spot but the console spot is totally underserved, they've done nothing to achieve something like that.

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Posted 17 July 2008 - 05:22 PM

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Except satisfy consumers.

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Posted 17 July 2008 - 05:25 PM

QUOTE(Arsenal @ Jul 17 2008, 04:19 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
They deserve the portable spot but the console spot is totally underserved, they've done nothing to achieve something like that.

the numbers would say you're completely, utterly, and totally wrong.


cool news.

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Posted 17 July 2008 - 08:10 PM

QUOTE(Razorsaw @ Jul 17 2008, 06:22 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
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Except satisfy consumers.


Which customers?

Or are you saying that every single Wii owner on the planet is 100% satisfied with the Wii?

The answer is no so you don't have to bust your brain thinking of something to say.

QUOTE(Asquian @ Jul 17 2008, 06:25 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
QUOTE(Arsenal @ Jul 17 2008, 04:19 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
They deserve the portable spot but the console spot is totally underserved, they've done nothing to achieve something like that.

the numbers would say you're completely, utterly, and totally wrong.


cool news.


Wanna squeeze in a few more words in there to feel superior?

I'll clear it up since some people lack reading comprehension skills.

IN MY OPINION, the Wii has nothing to deserve the spot it has, it has done nothing to sell as much as it has.

That better? Shall I put more spaces? Mayhaps spell out the big words?

See Nintendo to me has not found a balance between the markets, they exchanged one group for another and I consider that bad form, people WILL tire off the Wii eventually, people WILL tire of the motion crap, what then?

I would wonder if the market Nintendo gave the middle finger to would come back but I know the answer to that, yes, like the VG cats author said, Nintendo fans are like battered wives, they love their company no matter what.

I deal in marketing and the best balance to keep everyone happy is what I described, keep all your fans happy, discarding one group for another is a huge mistake and will inevitably backfire on Nintendo provided the angered discarded group is big enough.

Edited by Arsenal, 17 July 2008 - 08:12 PM.


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Posted 17 July 2008 - 08:24 PM

Here we go again. Can we we please stop with this console war bullcrap?

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Posted 17 July 2008 - 08:35 PM

Arsenal, it doesn't matter if they earned or even how they earned it. They did it. Doesn't matter if people went out and bought the Wii and then sold it two days later, they moved a new unit.

The numbers don't lie. They earned the top spot because they sold the most units. It's just that the numbers don't tell of satisfaction of the consumer base, only of it's size.

By the way, we get it: you don't like the Wii. How about just dodging these threads if all your gonna do be is a downer?
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Posted 17 July 2008 - 09:04 PM

This doesn't surprise me at all.

In fact, the only reason the numbers are so low is because 70% of the people who want one can't find them still.

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Posted 17 July 2008 - 09:34 PM

Go Nintendo icon-hotrod.gif They certainly showed Sony and Microsoft how to play the console war game.

Microsoft would have done better if their systems didn't do the whole red ring of death thing, and had to lose all their profit fixing them all.

And Sony, well they just got too ahead of themselves trying to compete when they weren't ready to move to the next system.

Nintendo really put themselves in a great position with the Wii. Now they''ll have the bucks to throw back into the next system and stay ontop where they belong icon-hotrod.gif

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Posted 17 July 2008 - 09:58 PM

I'm completely unsurprised.

It's a very well planned console, no one can deny that.
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Posted 17 July 2008 - 10:10 PM

Yay, Big N is back on top after so long being 3rd!

good stuff!

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Posted 18 July 2008 - 01:01 AM

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Lol still despite not having too many top aps, they figured not everyone can afford top notch tech, and tweaked what they had with a new twist that was still affordable and new to the general populace. Not just the hardcore gamers. It was a very smart move and in todays current economical crunch someones (not everyone) more liable to buy a $299 console over a $349 or $499 price tag.

Despite the facts of Better graphics, or more killer apps, or longer time on market, the Wii was a smart move. Now I'm not gonna say it's going to last. But Sony and Microsoft need to find a way to reduce prices, find a wider appeal, or just risk something new other than prettier visuals to draw people in. It worked for Nintendo and you can't argue with the Numbers.

Well you can but it's not gonna do any good right now. Go ahead and rant anyways. We know you will. But for our sakes please resist. We had enough in the E3 threads.

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Posted 18 July 2008 - 01:13 AM

Microsoft will probably have no problem, they're kinda like the Gamecube of this generation as far as "games over gimmicks", just with larger support. Though I don't really have any intention of getting one, if it were not for the RROD problem, I'd say they could have had this generation in the bag.

Sony's the one that really needs to pull their act together. The PS3 so far is about as big a blunder as the Nintendo 64, but unlike Nintendo, they have no first party support to keep them afloat. As more and more games decide to become duel PS3/360 titles, they could steadily lose any advantage they have.

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Posted 18 July 2008 - 02:01 AM

QUOTE(Roadgrabber @ Jul 18 2008, 02:13 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Microsoft will probably have no problem, they're kinda like the Gamecube of this generation as far as "games over gimmicks", just with larger support. Though I don't really have any intention of getting one, if it were not for the RROD problem, I'd say they could have had this generation in the bag.

Sony's the one that really needs to pull their act together. The PS3 so far is about as big a blunder as the Nintendo 64, but unlike Nintendo, they have no first party support to keep them afloat. As more and more games decide to become duel PS3/360 titles, they could steadily lose any advantage they have.



Don't you mean duel 360/Wii? *ducks!*


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Posted 18 July 2008 - 02:34 AM

It's almost 4 in the morning, so I took your post to mean duel-wielding a 360 and a Wii. icon-fire.gif

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Posted 18 July 2008 - 02:35 AM

Every publisher and developer underestimated the Wii and were totally unprepared for it's susccess. Surprising given the pattern in the previous generation of consoles that the weaker console comes out on top.
They can't afford to ignore it now.

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Posted 18 July 2008 - 02:47 AM

Of course that doesn't stop people from complaining and balking in disbelief that Wii games cost FIFTY DOLLARS!

Despite the fact that's 10 dollars cheaper than the next gen console games.

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Posted 18 July 2008 - 04:40 AM

Wow, remind me again, when was it officially decided that sales for the main console make it a good system?

I thought it was the games that decided, my bad. :|

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Posted 18 July 2008 - 05:50 AM

The sales of the console determine where the games go.