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@  PlutoniumBoss : (04 August 2020 - 09:03 PM)

Unless you count the Mask vs Lobo special, but that's less a duel and more a duet.

@  PlutoniumBoss : (04 August 2020 - 08:52 PM)

My favorite crossover fight was Thor vs Shazam/Captain Marvel. Early in the fight, Thor discovers that Billy Batson needs lightning to transform, and being a god of lightning he simply denies him that.

@  Sabrblade : (04 August 2020 - 08:46 PM)

Let's see a fight between Death Battle and Super Power Beat Down

@  TheMightyMol... : (04 August 2020 - 06:15 PM)

Which Lobo later claimed was because he was paid to take a dive. Yes, really.

@  TheMightyMol... : (04 August 2020 - 06:15 PM)

And then there's the times it's been decided by a fan vote, which is how we get things like Lobo (who can go toe-to-toe with Superman at full strength) losing to Wolverine.

@  Nevermore : (04 August 2020 - 05:49 PM)

And then there are the "but my favorite characater will totes win because I say so" people.

@  Nevermore : (04 August 2020 - 05:49 PM)

I mean, there are some people who really approach this from a somewhat reasonable standpoint, coming up with a plausible scenario and a setting that creates a fair environment that doesn't favor one character.

@  Nevermore : (04 August 2020 - 05:46 PM)

My favorite stupid "why would they even fight each other" question recently was about three versions of Optimus Prime (G1, Bayverse and Aligned).

@  Nevermore : (04 August 2020 - 05:45 PM)

Batman obviously can beat everyone. Even Galactus. He's Batman. He's so smart, he'll just throw a Batarang and hit the weak spot at Galactus's forehead, knocking him out instantaneously.

@  wonko the sane? : (04 August 2020 - 11:37 AM)

It's almost like all drama is just manufactured pissing contests to keep us all entertained and distracted. :p

@  Tm_Silverclaw : (04 August 2020 - 10:16 AM)

Or they could go White Ranger vs Scorpion route and have both win. ;P

@  ▲ndrusi : (04 August 2020 - 09:35 AM)

Besides, we all know the answer is nearly always "they fight to a standstill and then team up against a common enemy."

@  ▲ndrusi : (04 August 2020 - 09:29 AM)

The best way to prove this is to give an example where the match is really lopsided in favor of one character but in popularity they're either evenly matched or the weaker one is more popular.

@  ▲ndrusi : (04 August 2020 - 09:27 AM)

The "who would win in a fight" discussions are really just people trying to make "which one's better" into something you can theoretically measure objectively, usually in a very specific way they think they've predetermined their favorite will win.

@  Otaku : (04 August 2020 - 02:01 AM)

@Nevermore So... you're saying you didn't like DC Versus Marvel/Marvel Versus DC?

@  Steevy Maximus : (03 August 2020 - 06:59 PM)

So, what happened to Hasbro's Zoids relaunch? An English dub, some stuff in southeast Asia, and now a game coming in October? That it?

@  wonko the sane? : (03 August 2020 - 10:46 AM)

Tidal wave, cause shooting water gets you nowhere.

@  Darth Gonzo : (03 August 2020 - 09:57 AM)

Who would win Tidal Wave or Broadside?

@  -LittleAutob... : (03 August 2020 - 08:17 AM)

Btw Happy birthday to those people in the box to the right \o/

@  -LittleAutob... : (03 August 2020 - 08:16 AM)

The bottom line is obvious. It makes no literal sense to fight someone on your faction. :/

@  wonko the sane? : (03 August 2020 - 06:14 AM)

That's because you're doing it wrong. You're supposed to just stack skills and ability against each other. It's not the palace of doom, it's an episode of american gladiators.

@  Nevermore : (03 August 2020 - 04:32 AM)

The only obvious winners of such a fight would be the bad guys.

@  Nevermore : (03 August 2020 - 04:29 AM)

And what does it even matter? They should work together, not stupidly fight each other for the mindless entertainment of idiot onlookers.

@  Nevermore : (03 August 2020 - 04:29 AM)

Why would two good guys fight each other? What are they fighting over?

@  Nevermore : (03 August 2020 - 04:28 AM)

I never understood these "who would win in a fight between two good guys" discussions. They make no sense to me.

@  Maximus Ambus : (02 August 2020 - 04:17 PM)

If G1 had continued we'd have had Starscream back in spirit - through Krunk, Snapdragons partner and possibly Skullcruncher unless he was mute.

@  Bass X0 : (02 August 2020 - 12:28 PM)

There are some decent impersonators in fandubs though.

@  -LittleAutob... : (02 August 2020 - 10:45 AM)

The only true Starscream voices are Steve Blum and Chris Latta, hands down.

@  Sabrblade : (02 August 2020 - 10:14 AM)

Why they didn't have Scott McNeil voicing that Starscream, when he was the one who had imitated Chris Latta when he voiced Cobra Commander in the DiC G.I. Joe cartoon, is beyond me.

@  wonko the sane? : (02 August 2020 - 09:57 AM)

Say what you will, that was an awesome scene.

@  Maximus Ambus : (02 August 2020 - 08:36 AM)

Beast Wars Starsream "I am AIR COMMANDER Starscream of the DECEPTICON BATTLEFLEET!"

@  Nevermore : (02 August 2020 - 07:02 AM)

I liked TF: Prime Starscream.

@  -LittleAutob... : (01 August 2020 - 08:36 PM)

Hearing Starscream's screechy voice in Cyberverse has to be the most annoying thing ever in Transformers. Even his G1 voice wasn't as bad. :doh

@  -LittleAutob... : (01 August 2020 - 08:35 PM)

KUP!

@  Sabrblade : (01 August 2020 - 04:58 PM)

Urkel!

@  TheMightyMol... : (01 August 2020 - 03:16 PM)

Steeeeeeeeve.

@  PlutoniumBoss : (01 August 2020 - 02:57 AM)

LEEEROOOOOOOOY! jhenkenz...

@  Hg Dragon : (01 August 2020 - 01:21 AM)

Candleja-

@  Sabrblade : (31 July 2020 - 11:02 PM)

Beetlejuice! Beetlejuice! Beetlejuice!

@  Echowarrior : (31 July 2020 - 10:18 PM)

Spongebob!

@  TheMightyMol... : (31 July 2020 - 05:13 PM)

KHAAAAAAAN

@  PlutoniumBoss : (31 July 2020 - 03:04 PM)

Bueller? Bueller?

@  Jet : (31 July 2020 - 11:31 AM)

DONKEY!

@  Maximus Ambus : (31 July 2020 - 06:55 AM)

Spanner

@  Xaaron : (31 July 2020 - 06:49 AM)

Jetstorm

@  Nevermore : (31 July 2020 - 05:33 AM)

Tankor

@  SG Roadbuster : (31 July 2020 - 04:44 AM)

Overrun

@  lastmaximal : (31 July 2020 - 01:33 AM)

Buckethead

@  TheMightyMol... : (30 July 2020 - 07:15 PM)

Now I wonder how many Transformers we can name with the fewest possible different names.

@  Nevermore : (30 July 2020 - 06:38 PM)

Ransack. That's like another 20 or so.


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#1 MrBlud

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Posted 17 July 2008 - 04:53 PM

Via Nintendo themselves

The big N is back on top!

Best selling home console and best selling portable console.

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#2 Bass X0

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Posted 17 July 2008 - 05:00 PM

Of course - even though casual gamers don't buy as many games as proper gamers do, casual gamers out number proper gamers.

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Posted 17 July 2008 - 05:19 PM

They deserve the portable spot but the console spot is totally underserved, they've done nothing to achieve something like that.

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Posted 17 July 2008 - 05:22 PM

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Except satisfy consumers.

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Posted 17 July 2008 - 05:25 PM

QUOTE(Arsenal @ Jul 17 2008, 04:19 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
They deserve the portable spot but the console spot is totally underserved, they've done nothing to achieve something like that.

the numbers would say you're completely, utterly, and totally wrong.


cool news.

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Posted 17 July 2008 - 08:10 PM

QUOTE(Razorsaw @ Jul 17 2008, 06:22 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
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Except satisfy consumers.


Which customers?

Or are you saying that every single Wii owner on the planet is 100% satisfied with the Wii?

The answer is no so you don't have to bust your brain thinking of something to say.

QUOTE(Asquian @ Jul 17 2008, 06:25 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
QUOTE(Arsenal @ Jul 17 2008, 04:19 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
They deserve the portable spot but the console spot is totally underserved, they've done nothing to achieve something like that.

the numbers would say you're completely, utterly, and totally wrong.


cool news.


Wanna squeeze in a few more words in there to feel superior?

I'll clear it up since some people lack reading comprehension skills.

IN MY OPINION, the Wii has nothing to deserve the spot it has, it has done nothing to sell as much as it has.

That better? Shall I put more spaces? Mayhaps spell out the big words?

See Nintendo to me has not found a balance between the markets, they exchanged one group for another and I consider that bad form, people WILL tire off the Wii eventually, people WILL tire of the motion crap, what then?

I would wonder if the market Nintendo gave the middle finger to would come back but I know the answer to that, yes, like the VG cats author said, Nintendo fans are like battered wives, they love their company no matter what.

I deal in marketing and the best balance to keep everyone happy is what I described, keep all your fans happy, discarding one group for another is a huge mistake and will inevitably backfire on Nintendo provided the angered discarded group is big enough.

Edited by Arsenal, 17 July 2008 - 08:12 PM.


#7 Omgiamonfire

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Posted 17 July 2008 - 08:24 PM

Here we go again. Can we we please stop with this console war bullcrap?

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#8 wonko the sane?

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Posted 17 July 2008 - 08:35 PM

Arsenal, it doesn't matter if they earned or even how they earned it. They did it. Doesn't matter if people went out and bought the Wii and then sold it two days later, they moved a new unit.

The numbers don't lie. They earned the top spot because they sold the most units. It's just that the numbers don't tell of satisfaction of the consumer base, only of it's size.

By the way, we get it: you don't like the Wii. How about just dodging these threads if all your gonna do be is a downer?
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#9 Kalidor

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Posted 17 July 2008 - 09:04 PM

This doesn't surprise me at all.

In fact, the only reason the numbers are so low is because 70% of the people who want one can't find them still.

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Posted 17 July 2008 - 09:34 PM

Go Nintendo icon-hotrod.gif They certainly showed Sony and Microsoft how to play the console war game.

Microsoft would have done better if their systems didn't do the whole red ring of death thing, and had to lose all their profit fixing them all.

And Sony, well they just got too ahead of themselves trying to compete when they weren't ready to move to the next system.

Nintendo really put themselves in a great position with the Wii. Now they''ll have the bucks to throw back into the next system and stay ontop where they belong icon-hotrod.gif

Edited by Crazy Drummer?, 17 July 2008 - 09:35 PM.


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Posted 17 July 2008 - 09:58 PM

I'm completely unsurprised.

It's a very well planned console, no one can deny that.
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Posted 17 July 2008 - 10:10 PM

Yay, Big N is back on top after so long being 3rd!

good stuff!

VGM out...
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Posted 18 July 2008 - 01:01 AM

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Lol still despite not having too many top aps, they figured not everyone can afford top notch tech, and tweaked what they had with a new twist that was still affordable and new to the general populace. Not just the hardcore gamers. It was a very smart move and in todays current economical crunch someones (not everyone) more liable to buy a $299 console over a $349 or $499 price tag.

Despite the facts of Better graphics, or more killer apps, or longer time on market, the Wii was a smart move. Now I'm not gonna say it's going to last. But Sony and Microsoft need to find a way to reduce prices, find a wider appeal, or just risk something new other than prettier visuals to draw people in. It worked for Nintendo and you can't argue with the Numbers.

Well you can but it's not gonna do any good right now. Go ahead and rant anyways. We know you will. But for our sakes please resist. We had enough in the E3 threads.

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Posted 18 July 2008 - 01:13 AM

Microsoft will probably have no problem, they're kinda like the Gamecube of this generation as far as "games over gimmicks", just with larger support. Though I don't really have any intention of getting one, if it were not for the RROD problem, I'd say they could have had this generation in the bag.

Sony's the one that really needs to pull their act together. The PS3 so far is about as big a blunder as the Nintendo 64, but unlike Nintendo, they have no first party support to keep them afloat. As more and more games decide to become duel PS3/360 titles, they could steadily lose any advantage they have.

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Posted 18 July 2008 - 02:01 AM

QUOTE(Roadgrabber @ Jul 18 2008, 02:13 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Microsoft will probably have no problem, they're kinda like the Gamecube of this generation as far as "games over gimmicks", just with larger support. Though I don't really have any intention of getting one, if it were not for the RROD problem, I'd say they could have had this generation in the bag.

Sony's the one that really needs to pull their act together. The PS3 so far is about as big a blunder as the Nintendo 64, but unlike Nintendo, they have no first party support to keep them afloat. As more and more games decide to become duel PS3/360 titles, they could steadily lose any advantage they have.



Don't you mean duel 360/Wii? *ducks!*


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Posted 18 July 2008 - 02:34 AM

It's almost 4 in the morning, so I took your post to mean duel-wielding a 360 and a Wii. icon-fire.gif

Edited by Roadgrabber, 18 July 2008 - 02:34 AM.


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Posted 18 July 2008 - 02:35 AM

Every publisher and developer underestimated the Wii and were totally unprepared for it's susccess. Surprising given the pattern in the previous generation of consoles that the weaker console comes out on top.
They can't afford to ignore it now.

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#18 Kalidor

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Posted 18 July 2008 - 02:47 AM

Of course that doesn't stop people from complaining and balking in disbelief that Wii games cost FIFTY DOLLARS!

Despite the fact that's 10 dollars cheaper than the next gen console games.

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Posted 18 July 2008 - 04:40 AM

Wow, remind me again, when was it officially decided that sales for the main console make it a good system?

I thought it was the games that decided, my bad. :|

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Posted 18 July 2008 - 05:50 AM

The sales of the console determine where the games go.