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@  SHIELD Agent 47 : (11 November 2019 - 09:26 PM)

I hate to burst your bubble, Maximus Ambus, but 90% of things said in IDW turned out to be amnesiac half-rememberings courtesy of Adaptus or outright lies courtesy of Shockwave.

@  Jenny : (11 November 2019 - 08:54 AM)

The toy's designed to look like Wipe-Out, anyway.

@  NotVeryKnightly : (11 November 2019 - 08:14 AM)

Didn't they try to retcon that into a figure of speech because that connection went against everybody else's long-term plans?

@  Maximus Ambus : (11 November 2019 - 03:53 AM)

There's still some connection given Trypticon was created by Mortilus.

@  NotVeryKnightly : (11 November 2019 - 12:12 AM)

Yeah that toy doesn't exactly look like Necrobot.

@  Sabrblade : (10 November 2019 - 08:24 PM)

But.... it's just "Necro" not "Necrobot".

@  TheMightyMol... : (10 November 2019 - 05:10 PM)

But why does the God of Death need a giant space kaiju? Wait, never mind, answered my own question.

@  Maximus Ambus : (10 November 2019 - 02:15 PM)

Yowza I just realised Titans Trypticon comes with Necro AKA Censere AKA Mortilus.

@  Nevermore : (10 November 2019 - 01:15 PM)

I... think the best equivalent would actually be the British "There is room for improvement".

@  Nevermore : (10 November 2019 - 01:15 PM)

There's always a sense of irony to it, but what the ratio between irony (you really failed) and straightworwardness (at least you achieved something) is depends on the situation and the speaker.

@  Nevermore : (10 November 2019 - 01:12 PM)

The meaning can be both literal (you succeed on one level but fail on another), or it can be utterly ironic (you fail in every regard but the most technical; or even worse, "you really gave your best"), and anything in between.

@  Nevermore : (10 November 2019 - 01:10 PM)

For example: A singer can hit the notes really well, but clearly isn't a native speaker and what little of the lyrics you can make out sounds nothing like what it's supposed to be.

@  wonko the sane? : (10 November 2019 - 01:06 PM)

The premise seems to be the mixing of technical and aesthetic technical qualities towards the overall success.

@  wonko the sane? : (10 November 2019 - 01:05 PM)

But both "hollow victory" and pyrrhic victory" are referring to having lost as much as you've gained. IE; a battle was won but both armies were destroyed. The town being seiged is victorious, but all the soldiers are still dead. Nevermore's concept is more "You did it, but it's so ugly we don't know if you actually succeeded".

@  Sabrblade : (10 November 2019 - 11:35 AM)

Alternately, one could probably also call it a "hollow victory".

@  Sabrblade : (10 November 2019 - 11:35 AM)

Example: In the Powerpuff Girls episode "Uh Oh Dynamo", the monster-of-the-day was a really tough, giant-size one that required the use of a really destructive mech to defeat it. While the monster was ultimately beaten, the city of Townsville was utterly trashed by the mech's weapons in the process. So, while the city was saved from the monster, it was harmed even worse by the mech that saved it, making the victory bittersweet.

@  Sabrblade : (10 November 2019 - 11:32 AM)

@Nevermore, sounds to me like what one might call a "bittersweet victory". The goal was met, but at great cost or by disastrous result that call into question if the achieved goal could even be called a success.

@  Arvegtor : (10 November 2019 - 09:40 AM)

Seems to be close enough to "Pyrrhic victory"

@  NotVeryKnightly : (10 November 2019 - 09:37 AM)

What do you get from putting the German term through a translator?

@  wonko the sane? : (10 November 2019 - 08:57 AM)

That is a ridiculously interesting concept. But I don't think english has a singular term for what you're describing.

@  Nevermore : (10 November 2019 - 08:28 AM)

Is there an English equivalent for what we Germans call "deductions in the B rating"? Context: Someone did something and suceeded on a technical level (as in, achieved the intended goal), but failed to some degree in the details, i.e. there was some collateral damage, or while a technical success, the end result is an aestetic failure. It can be used highly ironically, as in "barely achieved the intended goal, but failed so much in every aspect that's not purely technical that it might as well be considered an utter failure altogether." The German term is derived from the old judging syste in figure skating, which gave separate ratings for "technical merit" and "presentation", with the latter being the origin of the German term.

@  SHIELD Agent 47 : (10 November 2019 - 02:32 AM)

Huh. I did not know before today that "medieval" had an alternate spelling "mediaeval". Like "paleontology" and "palaeontology".

@  Maximus Ambus : (09 November 2019 - 04:15 PM)

'Beast Wars in underrated' the comment went. I exploded.

@  PlutoniumBoss : (09 November 2019 - 02:19 PM)

Absolutely.

@  wonko the sane? : (09 November 2019 - 02:14 PM)

So... you can look like a cop from the 70's AND a huge nerd at the same time?

@  PlutoniumBoss : (09 November 2019 - 02:09 PM)

I feel like the best way to carry the Switch would be an under-arm torso holster.

@  Tm_Silverclaw : (09 November 2019 - 12:31 PM)

It's not. hell. If the 3DS zelda case just stretched a LITTLE more it would fit.

@  TheMightyMol... : (09 November 2019 - 03:38 AM)

I feel like the Switch Lite is a bit big to have hanging on your belt like that, but I don't take my Switch out with me often anyway.

@  Tm_Silverclaw : (09 November 2019 - 01:13 AM)

I must be the only one who wants a switch lite case with a belt loop. o.O

@  TheMightyMol... : (08 November 2019 - 03:03 PM)

I'm gonna have "Chainsaw Buffet" and "Candy For the Cannibal" by Lordi playing in my head all night.

@  Maximus Ambus : (08 November 2019 - 12:36 PM)

Trick or treaters can only consent to cannibalism in Germania.

@  Sabrblade : (07 November 2019 - 12:12 PM)

Hey, if the trick or treaters can't take some loving insults, that's their problem.

@  Arazyr : (07 November 2019 - 11:39 AM)

Just make sure to put the leftovers in the fridge, so they don't get spoiled.

@  wonko the sane? : (07 November 2019 - 11:10 AM)

I love children... but I can never eat a whole one.

@  TheMightyMol... : (07 November 2019 - 09:52 AM)

I can neither confirm nor deny this allegation.

@  Paladin : (07 November 2019 - 09:46 AM)

...you don't roast the trick or treaters, do you....

@  wonko the sane? : (07 November 2019 - 09:38 AM)

A cold beer, a warm fire, some smores and trick or treaters... Man, you got this life thing down.

@  wonko the sane? : (07 November 2019 - 09:37 AM)

That actually sounds pretty awesome.

@  MEDdMI : (07 November 2019 - 08:59 AM)

we'll move to the open garage if it's raining

@  MEDdMI : (07 November 2019 - 08:58 AM)

every Halloween since we got a house, TMM and I chill in the driveway with a fire bowl and roast things while handing out candy. It's pretty great.

@  Maximus Ambus : (07 November 2019 - 03:42 AM)

Peter Cullen voiced King Kong let that sink in.

@  TM2-Megatron : (06 November 2019 - 11:42 PM)

I've noticed that after a year or two, though, people with children will start getting into it for their kids

@  TM2-Megatron : (06 November 2019 - 11:41 PM)

I think a lot of the decline you see in Halloween is due to newcomers to Canada who don't really get it... I mean,there are only a handful of countries in the world that practice this particular oddity

@  SHIELD Agent 47 : (06 November 2019 - 12:29 PM)

I recently attended a talk on Samhain and its associated mythology by a professor from Limerick.

@  Otaku : (06 November 2019 - 11:49 AM)

Trunk or Treats have become more popular because it is supposed to be safer, and even if it isn't, it just tends to be easier for the Trick-or-Treaters.

@  wonko the sane? : (06 November 2019 - 11:00 AM)

That's okay: between ever more extreme weather, ever more violent society, and general paranoia of parents: halloweens not doing to well out here either.

@  Anonymous X : (06 November 2019 - 09:30 AM)

We used to have Bonfire Night here in the UK as our thing instead of Halloween... It's withered away for the most part. Halloween used to be the strange American tradition you knew of from ET or various cartoons

@  TheMightyMol... : (06 November 2019 - 06:33 AM)

So that's why I never get invited anywhere.

@  Otaku : (05 November 2019 - 12:36 PM)

@Bass X0 Are we talking about the quality of the costumes or their subject matter?  The former is a natural result of cosplay growing less and less niche over the decades.  The latter isn't new; mass produced stuff is at least as old as you or I and are we sure no one dressed as a cowboy or astronaut or whatever in the 1950's?  Monsters weren't allowed at certain parties, strange as it sounds. XP

@  Benbot : (05 November 2019 - 12:23 PM)

is the quick reply broken for anyone else or is it just me?


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#21 Cheetimus Primal

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Posted 17 July 2008 - 06:23 PM

I was just hoping for such a thing.
I doubt they'd have time for it and it would probably totally screw with the pacing of the film.
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Posted 17 July 2008 - 08:28 PM

The pirate DVD will be narrated by Gerard Butler, to boot.

Anyways, that trailer was everything I could ever hope for. The scene on Mars had me on the verge of tears.

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Posted 17 July 2008 - 08:58 PM

I'm sorry but everytime I hear/see Rorchach I sqweeee like a wee lil' girl !!!

He was my favorite character so I really can't wait to see him in action.

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Posted 18 July 2008 - 12:27 AM

Must resist...urge to watch...seeing TDK tomorrow...I can wait that long...urgh....
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Posted 18 July 2008 - 03:40 AM

Visually, this will be a breath taking movie(The glass castle on Mars made my jaw drop.)

But at the same time, I feel as if what we've seen of the movie seems to miss some of the point of the comic.
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Posted 18 July 2008 - 05:27 AM

Man, Silk Spectre and Ozymandias still look awful, but I think we've all had time to come to grips with the costumes. I'm looking forward to this if only to see how faithful they are to the comic and whether it translates well into action.

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Posted 18 July 2008 - 07:31 AM

QUOTE(Cheetimus Primal @ Jul 18 2008, 12:23 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I was just hoping for such a thing.
I doubt they'd have time for it and it would probably totally screw with the pacing of the film.

Yeh that's what I was thinking.
Glad to hear it may be on the DVD though. icon-hotrod.gif
I'm hoping the film'll feel like a sort of mix between 300 and The Usual Suspects.

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Posted 18 July 2008 - 08:03 AM

Even though I never read the comic, the trailer looked pretty interesting.

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Posted 18 July 2008 - 08:08 AM

dude you should atleast skem threw it watchmen is amazing it took me three read threws to get the whole story

it's that good
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Posted 18 July 2008 - 08:47 AM

This novel never really "clicked" for me. The ending was clever enough, and the story wasn't bad at all but I don't see it at the same level as everyone else here.

That being said, the trailer looked quite good. I look forward to the film.
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Posted 19 July 2008 - 11:41 PM

I hope they wage a good marketing campaign. The theater wasn't too enthused the other night.

While Watchmen is one of the greatest stories in comics history, some of the characters are generic knockoffs of popular characters when it comes to appearance. If you didn't know watchmen, Night Owl is a poor man's Batman.

The people at the theater before The Dark Knight were pretty vocal on the "WTF is this supposed to be?" Someone yelled "knock-off," an idiot in the row behind me was going "yeah, I'll see that movie...NOT!" (this HS kid must not have realized that Borat lines aren't funny anymore).

Oddly enough, most of the people in the theater cheered in the first 5 seconds. You see the DC logo and a man with lightning-type energy touching him. A guy yelled "FLASH" and got quite the cheer. The cheers faded pretty quickly.

Watchmen has the potential to be a great movie. Hopefully they can draw the audiences in. When you get past the archetypes and costumes, Watchmen has an amazing and powerful story.

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Posted 20 July 2008 - 03:10 AM

slightly off topic, but what's Silk Spectre's powers?


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Posted 20 July 2008 - 09:45 AM

QUOTE(KissPlay Lieger @ Jul 20 2008, 03:10 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
slightly off topic, but what's Silk Spectre's powers?

Being hot. She and most of the other Watchmen have no real powers Wikipedia list her abilities as athlete-level strength and great fighting prowess.

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Posted 20 July 2008 - 09:57 AM

QUOTE(Solarstorm @ Jul 20 2008, 12:41 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
If you didn't know watchmen, Night Owl is a poor man's Batman.


Poor Man's Blue Beetle, actually, since all the Watchmen characters were based on Charlston Comics characters (I'm sure you already knew that, but I'm just sayin'...).

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Posted 20 July 2008 - 10:46 AM

Afraid I'm siding with Alan Moore on this one. He doesn't want to see a Watchmen movie, and neither do I.

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Posted 20 July 2008 - 01:50 PM

best part is the music....I'll still see it, even though i have yet to finish the actual book..something like 30 pages from done .

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Posted 20 July 2008 - 01:59 PM

This movie looks phat! I also loved the trailer as well. It seems that DC are finally getting good in recent years icon-ironhide.gif

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Posted 20 July 2008 - 06:57 PM

QUOTE(MP5 @ Jul 20 2008, 11:46 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Afraid I'm siding with Alan Moore on this one. He doesn't want to see a Watchmen movie, and neither do I.


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Posted 20 July 2008 - 07:05 PM

If you have iTunes, you can get the narrated Watchman ep.... if you have not read the comic like me that is. The first one is free!

And yes this trailer is made of win.

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Posted 20 July 2008 - 07:07 PM

QUOTE(PiratedTVPro @ Jul 20 2008, 11:57 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
QUOTE(MP5 @ Jul 20 2008, 11:46 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Afraid I'm siding with Alan Moore on this one. He doesn't want to see a Watchmen movie, and neither do I.


Alan Moore doesn't want any movies made. He's a cinematic prick.



Seeing the movies that have been made from his work, I don't blame him for being a prick. icon-hotrod.gif





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