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@  Stepwise : (04 March 2021 - 09:07 PM)

Wonko - I'm really sorry - I've been in that spot where everything is falling apart at the same time.

@  wonko the sane? : (04 March 2021 - 04:49 PM)

a minivan which NOW sounds like it's on it's last legs. Christ, why is everything breaking now?!?!?

@  wonko the sane? : (04 March 2021 - 02:45 PM)

He's willing, but it's our parents minivan, and I'm half the labour.

@  TM2-Megatron : (04 March 2021 - 02:34 PM)

Like anything; if they're willing to haul it away it's theirs.

@  wonko the sane? : (04 March 2021 - 12:44 PM)

And now my brother wants the old fridge, so instead of letting the delivery folk deal with it, I need to move it.

@  NovaSaber : (04 March 2021 - 11:53 AM)

I take objection to the idea that public health is "politics" just because some politicians don't listen to the experts.

@  fourteenwings : (04 March 2021 - 10:59 AM)

I was only replying to the general sentiment of the last three posts before mine.

@  NotVeryKnightly : (04 March 2021 - 10:58 AM)

The person you replied to specifically gave the example of "limiting the amount of people in a facility".

@  NotVeryKnightly : (04 March 2021 - 10:58 AM)

This wasn't about "lock[ing] everyone in the country down".

@  fourteenwings : (04 March 2021 - 10:57 AM)

All I'm saying is there are lockdown and anti-lockdown people and hashing it out in the shoutbox on a toy forum is dumb.

@  fourteenwings : (04 March 2021 - 10:56 AM)

You don't have to lock everyone in the country down to mitigate risks in one population.

@  fourteenwings : (04 March 2021 - 10:56 AM)

Of course older people have it worse, but America is one of those countries where people ship their old people to homes far away from the action anyways.

@  NotVeryKnightly : (04 March 2021 - 10:55 AM)

What ar you even trying to say, anyway? That we shouldn't complain about others increasing the danger more than necessary?

@  fourteenwings : (04 March 2021 - 10:55 AM)

Frankly, there's a lot to say on this issue that can't be encompassed on the shoutbox and I really really don't want to have to deal with politics every single time I check the forums.

@  NotVeryKnightly : (04 March 2021 - 10:54 AM)

To claim that this is about the people in the 20-40 range is also disingenuous.

@  fourteenwings : (04 March 2021 - 10:53 AM)

Essential workers and such are pretty fit on average which is an extra boon for them.

@  fourteenwings : (04 March 2021 - 10:51 AM)

It's not really a personal choice issue, it's a risk versus well, anything you want to do issue. Literally leaving the house results in potential exposure, mask or no. Overall, most of us who hang out here are 20-40, and our survival rate is comparable with some pretty out there statistics.

@  NotVeryKnightly : (04 March 2021 - 10:39 AM)

Anybody who has to go out because of work or groceries or whatever can't just choose to avoid any potential disease-spreaders, for one thing.

@  NotVeryKnightly : (04 March 2021 - 10:38 AM)

Kind of disingenuous to frame this as just a personal choice issue.

@  fourteenwings : (04 March 2021 - 10:22 AM)

This whole "I can't handle people not me having the choice to not put on masks" thing's a bit much.

@  -LittleAutob... : (04 March 2021 - 09:14 AM)

Hey, Florida is one of the most infected states, and we won't even shut down. We may use masks, but restaurants, clubs, you name it, those are still wide open. Also, what's limiting the amount of people in a facility again? :p

@  Steevy Maximus : (03 March 2021 - 08:57 PM)

Oklahoma is right there, apparently. Dang bible belt. Nice people, but not the smartest cookies I've seen.

@  Hg Dragon : (03 March 2021 - 08:52 PM)

Don't worry! COME TO TEXAS WHERE OUR IDIOT GOVENOR DECALRED THE STATE 100% OPEN AND ENDED THE MASK MANDATE!!!

@  TM2-Megatron : (03 March 2021 - 04:21 PM)

Beyond just the not even being able to walk into most stores

@  wonko the sane? : (03 March 2021 - 04:21 PM)

No kidding, but right now: unless it's physically on the shelf in front of you: there's no clear idea when it'll be available. And that goes for just about everything.

@  TM2-Megatron : (03 March 2021 - 04:18 PM)

I've heard new appliances are hard to get, for some reason

@  wonko the sane? : (03 March 2021 - 04:13 PM)

And the new one we settled on is backlogged up to two months. Even better.

@  TM2-Megatron : (03 March 2021 - 11:59 AM)

I mean, it's not all bad. Disney's releasing Speed remastered on 4K

@  wonko the sane? : (03 March 2021 - 08:48 AM)

And now the fridge has died. So far 2021 has been WONDERFUL.

@  Hg Dragon : (01 March 2021 - 08:49 PM)

I'm upset I can't "Like" a shout...

@  TheMightyMol... : (28 February 2021 - 09:39 AM)

The US election? *rimshot*

@  Paladin : (28 February 2021 - 09:19 AM)

WHICH 2016 clown panic?

@  NotVeryKnightly : (28 February 2021 - 07:22 AM)

Didn't that come right after the 2016 clown panic? No way to make clowns not disturbing at the time, surely.

@  PlutoniumBoss : (28 February 2021 - 04:26 AM)

The clown guise is supposed to lure kids in, it's no good if it looks sus in one glance.

@  PlutoniumBoss : (28 February 2021 - 04:15 AM)

The new one tries too hard to be unsettling from the start. Curry's look is just a plain old clown, until he very much is not.

@  PlutoniumBoss : (28 February 2021 - 04:14 AM)

And Curry has a far more disturbing look at times than the newbie.

@  Sabrblade : (28 February 2021 - 02:22 AM)

And the original was a showcase of Tim Curry's delightfulness as an actor. 'Nuff said.

@  unluckiness : (27 February 2021 - 10:19 PM)

first one was a decent horror flick but the second was a mess plotwise and even the scares were worse

@  tigerhawk : (27 February 2021 - 04:57 PM)

Never understood the hype for the IT movies, too many floppy zombie chases, They're not in the least unsettling.

@  Maruten : (25 February 2021 - 06:00 PM)

It's better than the last one!

@  Steevy Maximus : (25 February 2021 - 11:30 AM)

The new Wizards of the Coast logo looks stupid

@  Steevy Maximus : (25 February 2021 - 11:29 AM)

It's really rather shocking watching the Investor Day presentation and seeing how much Hasbro actually owns now.

@  -LittleAutob... : (25 February 2021 - 10:26 AM)

If everyone had COMMON SENSE, then things would maybe go a little better-

@  repowers : (24 February 2021 - 05:33 PM)

If everyone would just have the exact same opinions as me then we wouldn't have this problem

@  Kalidor : (24 February 2021 - 01:49 PM)

It just depends on what it is. It is preferable to take it to P&R though. But sometimes current news as it's happening is less restrictive.

@  fourteenwings : (24 February 2021 - 12:18 AM)

Huh, good point (x3)

@  ▲ndrusi : (23 February 2021 - 11:46 AM)

Yeah. 1. People treat it like Twitter. 2. There's no "take it to P&R" since there's no P&R for the Shoutbox. 3. There's similarly no way to avoid either subjects or people in the Shoutbox since there's no division and it doesn't respect the ignore function, so people end up engaging when they normally wouldn't.

@  fourteenwings : (23 February 2021 - 10:56 AM)

Is there something about the Shoutbox that just means we get politics taking over the thing at least once a week?

@  wonko the sane? : (23 February 2021 - 08:26 AM)

At least your government is willing to talk about the collapsing medicare system. In quebec, their ignoring it in favour of talking about language again! Oh, and unconstitutionally denying access to eduction.

@  Shockwave 75 : (23 February 2021 - 07:52 AM)

At least here in my home province of Ontario we have a conservative gov't who doesn't want to cuz $$$$, but the argument is that they'll end up paying in medical care anyways for those sick people so why not?


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#81 TheMightyMollusk

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Posted 18 July 2008 - 07:57 AM

I tried FF8 a while back and lost interest around the end of the second disk. This thread made me want to try it again (also, apparently, I bought a strategy guide for it at some point), but I can't find it. This leads me to think I either traded it in or lent it out and never got it back. Oh well.

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Posted 18 July 2008 - 02:29 PM

Rock Band

was totally not what I was hoping it was gonna be. heres why i dont like it

-the guitar peripheral is horrible to play, i much prefer the extruded buttons, and clicky strum bar on the GH guitar, and if it werent for being able to use the GH guitar I wouldn't have even bothered with the guitar mode at all.
-the hammer on and pull offs are too hard to differ from the regular strum notes
-no "pro face off" mode where you just battle it out to see who wins.
-horrible online player matching system
-drums are so damn loud, thats all you can hear through the 360 wireless headsets on the other end
-peripherals break
-I cant stand that the song list is just one giant list instead of being broken up, and takes forever to navigate
-overall, way too easy of a game to beat, even on expert, I beat the guitar mode first time through each song except the last one, I failed once. And the drums first time through except running for the hills because I messed up the tempo change (I had never heard the song before, I didn't know how it went, but I beat it the second time through)

all and all, its an ok game, but my expectations were much much higher after already owning GH3. though, being the first edition, I gave it a break, and fully expect Rock Band 2 to blow me away.

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Posted 18 July 2008 - 02:48 PM

QUOTE(Crazy Drummer? @ Jul 18 2008, 12:29 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Rock Band

was totally not what I was hoping it was gonna be. heres why i dont like it

-the guitar peripheral is horrible to play, i much prefer the extruded buttons, and clicky strum bar on the GH guitar, and if it werent for being able to use the GH guitar I wouldn't have even bothered with the guitar mode at all.
-the hammer on and pull offs are too hard to differ from the regular strum notes
-no "pro face off" mode where you just battle it out to see who wins.
-horrible online player matching system
-drums are so damn loud, thats all you can hear through the 360 wireless headsets on the other end
-peripherals break
-I cant stand that the song list is just one giant list instead of being broken up, and takes forever to navigate
-overall, way too easy of a game to beat, even on expert, I beat the guitar mode first time through each song except the last one, I failed once. And the drums first time through except running for the hills because I messed up the tempo change (I had never heard the song before, I didn't know how it went, but I beat it the second time through)

all and all, its an ok game, but my expectations were much much higher after already owning GH3. though, being the first edition, I gave it a break, and fully expect Rock Band 2 to blow me away.

Takes all kinds. Me, I love Rock Band, and after going through GHIII once, thought, "this is it?" Also, I hated the "boss battles"--I just wanted to rock out to songs I liked. RB is definitely more of a "party" game than a score-whore game, though, so I can see why someone who loved the GH series might not be too into it.

However... I don't know that you're going to be much more impressed by RB2. The guitar doesn't feel much different at all (there's no more "mush," but it still felt imprecise to me compared to the Les Paul), no bosses, dunno about online matching, dunno about breaking. However, the song list is much easier to sort and navigate (how is GHIII's list any better, BTW?), the solo mode is more nonlinear and varied like Band World Tour so it may be harder (and it'll definitely be longer), and the drums are at least a little bit quieter, so it might be enough of a change for you.

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Posted 18 July 2008 - 03:36 PM

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Basically, I'm saying that the trailer does give you an idea for the market for it.

It would be fun for those people. Just trying to help him understand that.


It changed nothing. The game looks ridiculous. I can see some people having fun with the RTS section. (I personally hate RTS games) But other then that I STILL don't see why this game is going to sell. I just don't GET why people find that kinda jive to be fun. Never will, like I said.

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Posted 18 July 2008 - 03:41 PM

I suppose it's a test of your skills at managing stuff. icon-fire.gif

And the talk about Spore made me go dig up my copy of Sim City 3000. icon-fire.gif Weeee!

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Posted 18 July 2008 - 04:22 PM

QUOTE(Wingus @ Jul 18 2008, 04:41 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I suppose it's a test of your skills at managing stuff. icon-fire.gif

And the talk about Spore made me go dig up my copy of Sim City 3000. icon-fire.gif Weeee!


Heh, I suppose for me. Finding people who love games like Spore, could be the same like if you found someone who loved the taste of Brussel sprouts. You know it happens, but it baffels the HELL outta you.

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Posted 18 July 2008 - 05:03 PM

QUOTE(Internet Jesus @ Jul 18 2008, 12:44 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
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QUOTE(Internet Jesus @ Jul 16 2008, 05:10 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Also, Final Fantasy VIII.

I've played through it Six times or so now, each time trying to find SOMETHING redeeming about the characters and finding nothing worthwhile.

The magic system is bulljive, too.

And as for Final Fantasy VI/III? I think it's nostalgia-goggles. Kefka's awesome, but it's just not the be-all and end-all Final Fantasy many, many fans make it out to be, ESPECIALLY after the juggernaut of popularity Final Fantasy VII enjoyed.


BUT BUT BUT Squall is my favourite FF boy D=

Whiny emo-boy who hates everything except this one girl who kinda reminds him of his mom but is a total spaz?

Worst protagonist ever.


Biggest disappointment about FF8: Squall lived. I cheered SO hard at the end of the Disk and it end with him being pierced by that large shard of ice. Just the though of having someone else take him place made me eager for the rest of the game. And yet, he lived. icon-screamer.gif

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Posted 18 July 2008 - 05:34 PM

I liked Squall.

He felt so normal in a world of heroes. It was like, he just avoided all the anger (Zell) and despair (Selphie) and compassion (Rinoa).
He just shut up and did his job.

It was so compelling to me. It was like a superhero team led by Sarcastro.

And even he changed, even he fell in love. He wasn't a cold bastard, he was still human under all that apathy.

And "...Whatever." is still the best line in a Final Fantasy game, IMO. (Apart from FF3US with the Ghost Train boss using "Evil Toot".)

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Posted 18 July 2008 - 05:39 PM

"...Whatever" is in no way better then "YOU SPOONY BARD!". Not even in the same ballpark, let alone city, as it.

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#90 videomaster21XX

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Posted 18 July 2008 - 10:24 PM

The thing about Squall was he was afraid to let people get close to him. So he acted that way to prevent them from getting close. He was afraid that if he let someone 'in' he'd end up hurting them.

I'm not saying you need to like him, but that's the way he was. I understood this stand of his all too well. Rinoa however, saw past his 'wall' and managed to break it down and get him to open up. This is one of the things I loved about the game so much.

Course you'll all go on hating him anyway. But that's fine. I do the same thing with the whiner that is Kefka.

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Posted 19 July 2008 - 12:25 PM

Little Big Planet? months before it even comes out. Named best of E3 by g4. I know its important for the industry to see sony survive and to flourish but come on its just a cheesy sidescroller with create your own levels feature.

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Posted 20 July 2008 - 05:05 AM

Hated Majora's Mask with a firey passion. I don't know if I forgot how to play Zelda... I'm pretty sure it plays about the same as Ocarina of Time, and I loved OoT but I HATED this one. Everything about it pissed me off. The time limits, resetting my progress (well, I guess that was due to not getting anywhere within the time limits), the disturbing looking/sounding people.
I remember trying to give a potion to an old witch for a quest. The game tells you how to give it to her, and yet it doesn't tell you WHEN. I'm pretty sure I saw the icon in the dialog window for "press this to continue" and so I'd do that and then follow the instructions of pressing the button they told me to press to give it to her, only instead I would drink it. I had to press it WHILE the dialog window was up. Agonizing how many times I repeated that quest before I figured that out. What was great was how Link would taunt me each time, but pausing for a fraction of a second as he held the bottle out in front of himself, right in the witch's face before downing the thing like the sadistic lush he is.
Oh, and the spawning of Tingle, the Zelda universe's Teletubby. Ok, he only looks and creeps you out like a Teletubby, except he's got the face of an eccentric over-the-top gay mustached man. It's like biting into a block of sugar... ice... chalkboard. sugar-ice-chalkboard! It's just too gay. If Walky put Tingle on the cover of his Shortpacked book 3, I would tell him it's too gay, and I want to totally gay up my livingroom by having it on my theoretical coffee table, to spread the gay agenda to guests who visit.

Rainbow Six. I really wanted to play that game. It sounded so cool. tactics. I don't think the tutorials ever showed me how to give the right signals to my teammates. I understood it wasn't a typical FPS "rush in guns blazing" type of game. I just couldn't figure out how to do anything other than get shot instantly.

CounterStrike. TFC was my game. Defending or attacking, I could pick my role. (usually defending got me a lot more kills) I had a safe place and a dangerous place. It was nice to know where everything was. Not so with CS.

StarCraft. Oh, I played it. I played the hell out of it. But I never really "got it". I never learned how to play. I couldn't micromanage for jive. I couldn't play against human players. All I could do was play maps that were easy to defend. Seal a narrow passage with supply depots, bunkers behind them. siege tanks. and pray there's enough resources, or you're able to drop-ship in to another easily defendable spot. the computer either gives up, or... well there was that insane expansion pack AI that was really hard to beat... if he got too powerful our usual "fleet of battlecruisers" wasn't enough, because he'd red-goo us. and keeping a fleet of medics around ... and trying to heal every single one of 12 cruisers was really difficult.
I just have no interest in the hectic pace and gazillion different actions you could take in those complex strategies.


MMORPGs... uhg. I've played plenty of them. I think the problem is that I'm not good at the social interaction, especially in such a limited interaction. (hahah. this coming from a guy who spends more time talking to people online than in real life. shut up.) that's really key to grouping, getting into a guild... stuff you need in order to play.
EverQuest was not a game you could solo past a certain level. My poor Iksar monk struggled alone in the caves at level 45.
I dunno... I always feel so lost and alone in a MMORPG... for some reason I just don't know ... anything. What does it matter if I join someone for something or not? and then sometimes you do go with people, and it's a complete mess. you don't have healers or tanks, and you're just barely surviving. and no one knows where they're going. and people joining never show up.
and YOU don't know what you're doing either. You're just struggling to keep up with everyone. and then the guy leading you through finishes the dungeon. and then you find out you missed a step. and 20 levels later you still can't find a group to go back and there's no point to going back because the quests are greyed out. icon-waspy.gif
and Ryzom... Ryzom was not a good game for giving you direction and purpose. There were no quests. well there were a few. not enough to occupy the majority of your time playing though.

One of these days I wish they'd make an MMORPG that addresses all my concerns about real life. It offers you direction and purpose if you need it, but also gives you freedom to do what you want in ways that actually matter. rather than just the freedom to not do a quest, or the freedom to walk in two dimensions. or the freedom to wear different combinations of clothing. woo. although chosing outfits is nice, it's very difficult to do when also dealing with practical stats.

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Posted 20 July 2008 - 09:15 AM

Most games it seems like. I hate a lot of the titles everyone raves about.

Tho my most recent dissapointment was Lost Odyessy. I had heard it was actualy a very good RPG and finally got enough free time to start up on a new RPG game so i thought i would try it... couldnt even finish the first disk before i lost total intrest in the game. Usualy i would just power through a game even if i hated it just so i could see the end but after getting a DRE I just kinda couldnt find the desire to redo the section i lost my progress on and called it quits.


Throwing in my 2 cents about Spore.
I basicaly want this game because it reminds me heavily of one of my favorite SNES games of all time, E.V.O. But with the added bonus of intergalactic cruelity towards other peoples life forms.

mmmh... sweet sweet death from above followed by eventual detonation of a planet full of some persons lovingly crafted sentient life forms.. so good.


Put me in with the camp that loved FF8. Only reason I dont play it every now and again anymore is that Disc 2 got huge gashes put in it when one of the tabs from my PS1 broke off in the tray and wedged itself between the disk and the base of the drive. Now whenever it tries to load the witches Parade it locks up :/ I could never find a new copy of the game and plus at the time i really could afford to go buy one anyways.

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