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@  PlutoniumBoss : (04 August 2020 - 09:03 PM)

Unless you count the Mask vs Lobo special, but that's less a duel and more a duet.

@  PlutoniumBoss : (04 August 2020 - 08:52 PM)

My favorite crossover fight was Thor vs Shazam/Captain Marvel. Early in the fight, Thor discovers that Billy Batson needs lightning to transform, and being a god of lightning he simply denies him that.

@  Sabrblade : (04 August 2020 - 08:46 PM)

Let's see a fight between Death Battle and Super Power Beat Down

@  TheMightyMol... : (04 August 2020 - 06:15 PM)

Which Lobo later claimed was because he was paid to take a dive. Yes, really.

@  TheMightyMol... : (04 August 2020 - 06:15 PM)

And then there's the times it's been decided by a fan vote, which is how we get things like Lobo (who can go toe-to-toe with Superman at full strength) losing to Wolverine.

@  Nevermore : (04 August 2020 - 05:49 PM)

And then there are the "but my favorite characater will totes win because I say so" people.

@  Nevermore : (04 August 2020 - 05:49 PM)

I mean, there are some people who really approach this from a somewhat reasonable standpoint, coming up with a plausible scenario and a setting that creates a fair environment that doesn't favor one character.

@  Nevermore : (04 August 2020 - 05:46 PM)

My favorite stupid "why would they even fight each other" question recently was about three versions of Optimus Prime (G1, Bayverse and Aligned).

@  Nevermore : (04 August 2020 - 05:45 PM)

Batman obviously can beat everyone. Even Galactus. He's Batman. He's so smart, he'll just throw a Batarang and hit the weak spot at Galactus's forehead, knocking him out instantaneously.

@  wonko the sane? : (04 August 2020 - 11:37 AM)

It's almost like all drama is just manufactured pissing contests to keep us all entertained and distracted. :p

@  Tm_Silverclaw : (04 August 2020 - 10:16 AM)

Or they could go White Ranger vs Scorpion route and have both win. ;P

@  ▲ndrusi : (04 August 2020 - 09:35 AM)

Besides, we all know the answer is nearly always "they fight to a standstill and then team up against a common enemy."

@  ▲ndrusi : (04 August 2020 - 09:29 AM)

The best way to prove this is to give an example where the match is really lopsided in favor of one character but in popularity they're either evenly matched or the weaker one is more popular.

@  ▲ndrusi : (04 August 2020 - 09:27 AM)

The "who would win in a fight" discussions are really just people trying to make "which one's better" into something you can theoretically measure objectively, usually in a very specific way they think they've predetermined their favorite will win.

@  Otaku : (04 August 2020 - 02:01 AM)

@Nevermore So... you're saying you didn't like DC Versus Marvel/Marvel Versus DC?

@  Steevy Maximus : (03 August 2020 - 06:59 PM)

So, what happened to Hasbro's Zoids relaunch? An English dub, some stuff in southeast Asia, and now a game coming in October? That it?

@  wonko the sane? : (03 August 2020 - 10:46 AM)

Tidal wave, cause shooting water gets you nowhere.

@  Darth Gonzo : (03 August 2020 - 09:57 AM)

Who would win Tidal Wave or Broadside?

@  -LittleAutob... : (03 August 2020 - 08:17 AM)

Btw Happy birthday to those people in the box to the right \o/

@  -LittleAutob... : (03 August 2020 - 08:16 AM)

The bottom line is obvious. It makes no literal sense to fight someone on your faction. :/

@  wonko the sane? : (03 August 2020 - 06:14 AM)

That's because you're doing it wrong. You're supposed to just stack skills and ability against each other. It's not the palace of doom, it's an episode of american gladiators.

@  Nevermore : (03 August 2020 - 04:32 AM)

The only obvious winners of such a fight would be the bad guys.

@  Nevermore : (03 August 2020 - 04:29 AM)

And what does it even matter? They should work together, not stupidly fight each other for the mindless entertainment of idiot onlookers.

@  Nevermore : (03 August 2020 - 04:29 AM)

Why would two good guys fight each other? What are they fighting over?

@  Nevermore : (03 August 2020 - 04:28 AM)

I never understood these "who would win in a fight between two good guys" discussions. They make no sense to me.

@  Maximus Ambus : (02 August 2020 - 04:17 PM)

If G1 had continued we'd have had Starscream back in spirit - through Krunk, Snapdragons partner and possibly Skullcruncher unless he was mute.

@  Bass X0 : (02 August 2020 - 12:28 PM)

There are some decent impersonators in fandubs though.

@  -LittleAutob... : (02 August 2020 - 10:45 AM)

The only true Starscream voices are Steve Blum and Chris Latta, hands down.

@  Sabrblade : (02 August 2020 - 10:14 AM)

Why they didn't have Scott McNeil voicing that Starscream, when he was the one who had imitated Chris Latta when he voiced Cobra Commander in the DiC G.I. Joe cartoon, is beyond me.

@  wonko the sane? : (02 August 2020 - 09:57 AM)

Say what you will, that was an awesome scene.

@  Maximus Ambus : (02 August 2020 - 08:36 AM)

Beast Wars Starsream "I am AIR COMMANDER Starscream of the DECEPTICON BATTLEFLEET!"

@  Nevermore : (02 August 2020 - 07:02 AM)

I liked TF: Prime Starscream.

@  -LittleAutob... : (01 August 2020 - 08:36 PM)

Hearing Starscream's screechy voice in Cyberverse has to be the most annoying thing ever in Transformers. Even his G1 voice wasn't as bad. :doh

@  -LittleAutob... : (01 August 2020 - 08:35 PM)

KUP!

@  Sabrblade : (01 August 2020 - 04:58 PM)

Urkel!

@  TheMightyMol... : (01 August 2020 - 03:16 PM)

Steeeeeeeeve.

@  PlutoniumBoss : (01 August 2020 - 02:57 AM)

LEEEROOOOOOOOY! jhenkenz...

@  Hg Dragon : (01 August 2020 - 01:21 AM)

Candleja-

@  Sabrblade : (31 July 2020 - 11:02 PM)

Beetlejuice! Beetlejuice! Beetlejuice!

@  Echowarrior : (31 July 2020 - 10:18 PM)

Spongebob!

@  TheMightyMol... : (31 July 2020 - 05:13 PM)

KHAAAAAAAN

@  PlutoniumBoss : (31 July 2020 - 03:04 PM)

Bueller? Bueller?

@  Jet : (31 July 2020 - 11:31 AM)

DONKEY!

@  Maximus Ambus : (31 July 2020 - 06:55 AM)

Spanner

@  Xaaron : (31 July 2020 - 06:49 AM)

Jetstorm

@  Nevermore : (31 July 2020 - 05:33 AM)

Tankor

@  SG Roadbuster : (31 July 2020 - 04:44 AM)

Overrun

@  lastmaximal : (31 July 2020 - 01:33 AM)

Buckethead

@  TheMightyMol... : (30 July 2020 - 07:15 PM)

Now I wonder how many Transformers we can name with the fewest possible different names.

@  Nevermore : (30 July 2020 - 06:38 PM)

Ransack. That's like another 20 or so.


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Posted 14 July 2008 - 08:16 AM

Just starting this early so we can keep all the general info here. If and when you see some E3 news post it here and help keep the rest of us informed!

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Posted 14 July 2008 - 08:36 AM

PS3 is teh suxxx.

Wii is for kids and old people.

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Man tears will be shed when the FF7 remake isn't shown again.



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Posted 14 July 2008 - 09:41 AM

<insert info for game that we won't see until 2010>

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Posted 14 July 2008 - 12:05 PM

I'm looking forward to news on:

1. Rock Band 2 (come on, tracklist! And confirmation of whether or not RB1 songs can be downloaded into RB2!)
2. Animal Crossing Wii (heavily rumored to be finally officially announced)
3. Resident Evil 5

Plus, of course, any surprises for the 360, Wii, or DS.

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Posted 14 July 2008 - 12:13 PM

Looking out for more info on Chrono Trigger DS, Duke Nukem Forever ( yes...), A Vampire Story, Tomb Raider 8, Sam & Max Season 3 and StarCraft II. icon-hotrod.gif

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Posted 14 July 2008 - 12:24 PM

I'm so looking forward to Animal Crossing - but on the Wii - being announced.
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Posted 14 July 2008 - 12:36 PM

Trying to tie all these E3 threads together, you have this bit of news from Nintendo: Nintendo introduces Motion Plus

Also the Microsoft press conference will start at 10:30 AM PST.

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Posted 14 July 2008 - 12:48 PM

"Resident Evil 5 is out in North America and Europe, March 13th 2009"
Still a ways off, but at least we got a date...

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Posted 14 July 2008 - 01:02 PM

8 more months? Man, this game is going to rock and I don't want them to rush it, but I wish it would come out already!

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Posted 14 July 2008 - 01:09 PM

Still say they should make a version of it for the Wii. ;P

I'd enjoy the aiming a lot more. That's for sure.

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Posted 14 July 2008 - 01:18 PM

QUOTE(Tm_Silverclaw @ Jul 14 2008, 11:09 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Still say they should make a version of it for the Wii. ;P

I'd enjoy the aiming a lot more. That's for sure.

Still agree with you.

Sure does look pretty, though.

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Posted 14 July 2008 - 01:22 PM

QUOTE(Tm_Silverclaw @ Jul 14 2008, 01:09 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Still say they should make a version of it for the Wii. ;P

I'd enjoy the aiming a lot more. That's for sure.

thinking back to Transformers the Movie game, where the developers downscaled it a bit to medium res on the Wii and the fact the consoles capable of HDR lighting and heat haze effect, it's still a possability otherwise Capcom has a 'suirprising take on a next gen favourite' for the Wii.

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Posted 14 July 2008 - 01:23 PM

True.. Though if I put it in either system the 360 or Wii at my office now.. Most people wouldn't notice the diffrence.


Stupid Techs who set up the 360 have it running through Composit.

Worse yet.. no one has noticed!

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Posted 14 July 2008 - 01:43 PM

QUOTE(Tm_Silverclaw @ Jul 14 2008, 01:09 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Still say they should make a version of it for the Wii. ;P

I'd enjoy the aiming a lot more. That's for sure.


Better graphics(which is part of the presentation and the presentation is an important part in the game, as well as the marketing of said game), more classical gameplay(I prefer two sticks and a couple of buttons to motion control.), plus think of the audience(Late teens to 20 somethings) they're aiming for and what systems they have.(This of course, is a generalization as to who would actually buy RE5 in the first place. I consider the fact that everyone and their dogs have Wiis now adays, but for the most part, Wii owners are pick up and play, or 'simple' style gamers. Fun, but not super complex, difficult to play fun.)

Plus, from a gameplay stand point if they're going for realisim(something that I happen to find profoundly stupid, considering that video games are an escapist genre), aiming a pistol at a horde of zombies is not easy to do, hell, aiming a gun is an all around difficult thing to do. The point and click style shooting of the Wii could remove some of the realism they're going for, considering RE4 as an example(Which is really, a masterpeice of a game.) I'm not sure if that's how it works on the Wii version of RE4, having never played it, though. (All my friends who have it got it for PS2 or Gamecube when it was originally released, so yeah). Anyone care to fill me in?

360 and PS3 are the way to go for M rated titles, both from a developer sense and a player sense, which is in an odd way, a sort of symbotic relationship.

The Wii is a pick up and play sort of console, or at least, it's marketed in such a way, and I'd say on the majority, most owners of the Wii wouldn't buy, or even be interested in, Resident Evil 5. Same goes for GTA games.

Games come out or don't come out because of the marketing, and Capcom is clearly trying to appeal to the disposable income, low responsbilites crowd (Late teens to 20 somethings.) who want to shoot the crap out of some zombies.

and Older Adults and Kids aren't really the target audience for Zombie shooting action, and unfortunately, that's the target audience of the Wii, meaning that developers of more complex, M rated games will for the majority, place games on the 360 and/or PS3. (Not to say that Developers don't throw more classical gamers(I'd say the SNES generation. The NES generation is a bit wider, but the SNES era tends to be where today's definition of 'gamer' came from.) who have the Wii a bone every once and a while. No more heroes is a good example.)

That's how I see it, anyways.
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Posted 14 July 2008 - 01:49 PM

Thats why RE 4 sold amazingly well on the Wii huh?


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Posted 14 July 2008 - 02:01 PM

The Wii version of RE4 pretty much perfected an amazing game. The wiimote controls were really just beautiful--simple, accurate, and fun. And yeah, last I heard, it sold pretty well... given that it was already out for years on GCN, PS2, and PC, that's no small feat.

So yeah, I think people would buy it, and I think it'd be a great thing... even given the obvious graphical hit required.

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Posted 14 July 2008 - 02:05 PM

QUOTE(Tm_Silverclaw @ Jul 14 2008, 01:49 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Thats why RE 4 sold amazingly well on the Wii huh?


To be honest, It sold better on the Gamecube and the PS2 than it did on the Wii.

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Posted 14 July 2008 - 02:15 PM

QUOTE(Tm_Silverclaw @ Jul 14 2008, 01:49 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Thats why RE 4 sold amazingly well on the Wii huh?


Amazingly well is debatable.(Halo 3 and GTA IV fall into 'amazingly well' catagory for the current generation, others pale in comparison.)

RE4 had word of mouth, extremely good reviews and the fact that it was a masterpeice of a game on it's side. Meaning that with additional content, people were picking up Wii's for RE4, not the other way around. (The consoles marketed at children[which is never a bad way to go, when it comes to marketing] and a marketing pool that has been largely been ignored over the past few generations, the adults who haven't played video games since Atari)

Unfortunately, as much as the Wii will be defended, sales figures brought up, etc. it doesn't change that fact that the two renouned, M rated franchise games came out/ are coming for the 360 and the PS3 and not the Wii.

Also, what I found interesting about the gamecube/PS2 versions of RE4 was that the guns were hard as hell to shoot, accurately. Simplicity really takes away from some the realism. (Which is a term I hate in reference to video games, but meh. People want it, so developers are gonna do it.)
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Posted 14 July 2008 - 02:16 PM

You do realize GTA and Halo are the two most casual games out there right?


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Posted 14 July 2008 - 02:25 PM

QUOTE(Tm_Silverclaw @ Jul 14 2008, 02:16 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
You do realize GTA and Halo are the two most casual games out there right?


Indeed and they sold in record shattering numbers, on two(technically one, in Halo 3's case) system(s) that are in less households(in fact, quite a few less households) than the Wii.

Interesting.
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