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@  wonko the sane? : (14 November 2019 - 07:38 AM)

There actually are a good number of clinics around here: but the walk ins require an appointment (what?) and are only done once a week. IF you can get an appointment, you see a doctor usually within 40 minutes, but good luck getting the appointment.

@  Nevermore : (14 November 2019 - 03:35 AM)

Depending on the day.

@  Nevermore : (14 November 2019 - 03:35 AM)

We have family doctors (called "house doctors") with regular office hours where you may need an hour or two of waiting time.

@  TM2-Megatron : (14 November 2019 - 12:50 AM)

Two weeks? That seems a little long; are there not a lot of walk-in clinics around you?

@  wonko the sane? : (13 November 2019 - 07:01 PM)

Does germany make it quick and easy to see a doctor too? Cause an emergency doctor visit can take two weeks out here, and an emergency ROOM visit can take 18-24 hours.

@  Nevermore : (13 November 2019 - 06:43 PM)

(Good thing is, under German law, if you call in sick during your vacation and see a doctor immediately, you get to keep your vacation days.)

@  Nevermore : (13 November 2019 - 06:42 PM)

Too bad. My plans wee to do two more overtime hours before having my last day of vacation for the year on Friday. Oh well.

@  Nevermore : (13 November 2019 - 06:41 PM)

So I'm currently on medical leave for a particularly stupid reason: Burned my back with a hot-water bag while sleeping last night. Though the doctor said I'm hardly the first person to have this happen to them.

@  Patch : (13 November 2019 - 06:11 PM)

Just a particularly odious example of the 90s era of depicting transgender women as either the subject of crude humor, or "Jerry Springer" material.

@  Ashley : (13 November 2019 - 04:55 PM)

I think Ace Ventura legit contributed to me spending years in self denial. I will never be ok with Jim Carrey.

@  Benbot : (13 November 2019 - 01:22 PM)

I thought he since changed his tune.

@  Tm_Silverclaw : (13 November 2019 - 12:51 PM)

Jim Carry Paladin?

@  Maximus Ambus : (13 November 2019 - 12:22 PM)

Don't doubt what he can do. Sonic the Hedgehog!

@  Paladin : (13 November 2019 - 11:51 AM)

not giving a dime to a transphobic antivaxxer.

@  wonko the sane? : (13 November 2019 - 11:25 AM)

It'll be a terrible movie if jim carrey phones it in. Otherwise it should be decent.

@  Paladin : (13 November 2019 - 10:45 AM)

sonics' still gonna be a terrible movie but at least they whined loud enough to make him look passable for a 2-minute trailer. "yay."

@  ▲ndrusi : (13 November 2019 - 10:37 AM)

But of course to annoying people there's no such thing as different decisions made for different reasons, there is only "I like it so it's right" and "I don't like it so it's wrong."

@  ▲ndrusi : (13 November 2019 - 10:35 AM)

Even if we pretend it's objective truth that they were both bad, then they were bad in very different ways.

@  ▲ndrusi : (13 November 2019 - 10:33 AM)

Sonic's previous movie design looked genuinely bad. The Transformers '07 designs just looked insufficiently like what certain loud and obnoxious parts of the fandom think Transformers are required to always look like.

@  Otaku : (13 November 2019 - 08:50 AM)

Um... Purple Monkey Dishwasher?

@  TheMightyMol... : (13 November 2019 - 08:25 AM)

Do we really need to have Every Movie Transformer Thread Ever in the Squawkbox?

@  Bass X0 : (13 November 2019 - 08:13 AM)

Sure it made money but that doesn’t mean it has appealing character designs. Lot of god awful fugly faces in the Transformers movies.

@  Otaku : (12 November 2019 - 08:25 PM)

@Liege My issue with Transformers (2007) were elements I thought were unnecessary.  I know it was supposed to just be a joke, but I didn't ever need to hear about "Sam's Happy Time". >.> Which, being in awe of the first "live action" TF-film, didn't even register until I'd already purchased and watched it on DVD a few times (after seeing it in theaters 3 times).

@  Liege : (12 November 2019 - 08:22 PM)

For all the Bayisms in the 07 movie, it was tempered by Spielberg as producer. Designs aside it was an enjoyable popcorn blockbuster about a boy and his first car who happens to be an alien from another planet. They sequels are just Bay going unchecked after he proved how much bank he could bring in.

@  TM2-Megatron : (12 November 2019 - 07:12 PM)

I didn't find the designs in the '07 movie to be that bad, personally. What got really offputting was how Cybertronians in general become such huge a-holes in the later films; the designs were very much secondary to their horrible personalities

@  Sabrblade : (12 November 2019 - 06:59 PM)

And yet, Transformers still broke the bank at the box office, opened up the brand to a whole new generation of fans, shot the brand up to mainstream appeal, and enabled all kinds of new collector-oriented lines and other avenues to come about. Not saying Sonic's movie will do the same for his series, but the 2007 TF movie certainly did more good than harm.

@  Bass X0 : (12 November 2019 - 06:09 PM)

Paramount changed Sonic due to fan backlash but refused to redo Transformers 2007 with new cgi appearances based on their classic forms everyone’s knows and loves, and can relate to. Trailer 1 Sonic is as appealing a design as 2007 Bumblebee...

@  TheMightyMol... : (12 November 2019 - 02:14 PM)

I don't. They're a pain in the ass to repair.

@  Benbot : (12 November 2019 - 12:48 PM)

I wish car companies would bring back flip up headlights

@  TheMightyMol... : (12 November 2019 - 09:07 AM)

Wear a hazmat suit. It's Walmart, they're used to weird.

@  wonko the sane? : (12 November 2019 - 07:54 AM)

2 inches of snow on the side of the house, 2 feet of snow on the deck. I hate this winter already.

@  Tm_Silverclaw : (11 November 2019 - 11:33 PM)

But that requires actually going IN walmart. ;P

@  Liege : (11 November 2019 - 11:22 PM)

Pro tip for anyone hunting the for the Walmart 35th exclusives: try the seasonal aisles rather than the toy section. I found the display with all the exclusives and a bunch of the reflector wave practically untouched amongst those novelty arcade machines and a bunch of frozen merch.

@  SHIELD Agent 47 : (11 November 2019 - 09:45 PM)

Although that does spark an idea for me. In a new continuity, Censere the Necrobot could be the herald Cityspeaker for Quintessa the Necrotitan just to play on their monikers utilizing Greek for dead, nekrós.

@  SHIELD Agent 47 : (11 November 2019 - 09:26 PM)

I hate to burst your bubble, Maximus Ambus, but 90% of things said in IDW turned out to be amnesiac half-rememberings courtesy of Adaptus or outright lies courtesy of Shockwave.

@  Jenny : (11 November 2019 - 08:54 AM)

The toy's designed to look like Wipe-Out, anyway.

@  NotVeryKnightly : (11 November 2019 - 08:14 AM)

Didn't they try to retcon that into a figure of speech because that connection went against everybody else's long-term plans?

@  Maximus Ambus : (11 November 2019 - 03:53 AM)

There's still some connection given Trypticon was created by Mortilus.

@  NotVeryKnightly : (11 November 2019 - 12:12 AM)

Yeah that toy doesn't exactly look like Necrobot.

@  Sabrblade : (10 November 2019 - 08:24 PM)

But.... it's just "Necro" not "Necrobot".

@  TheMightyMol... : (10 November 2019 - 05:10 PM)

But why does the God of Death need a giant space kaiju? Wait, never mind, answered my own question.

@  Maximus Ambus : (10 November 2019 - 02:15 PM)

Yowza I just realised Titans Trypticon comes with Necro AKA Censere AKA Mortilus.

@  Nevermore : (10 November 2019 - 01:15 PM)

I... think the best equivalent would actually be the British "There is room for improvement".

@  Nevermore : (10 November 2019 - 01:15 PM)

There's always a sense of irony to it, but what the ratio between irony (you really failed) and straightworwardness (at least you achieved something) is depends on the situation and the speaker.

@  Nevermore : (10 November 2019 - 01:12 PM)

The meaning can be both literal (you succeed on one level but fail on another), or it can be utterly ironic (you fail in every regard but the most technical; or even worse, "you really gave your best"), and anything in between.

@  Nevermore : (10 November 2019 - 01:10 PM)

For example: A singer can hit the notes really well, but clearly isn't a native speaker and what little of the lyrics you can make out sounds nothing like what it's supposed to be.

@  wonko the sane? : (10 November 2019 - 01:06 PM)

The premise seems to be the mixing of technical and aesthetic technical qualities towards the overall success.

@  wonko the sane? : (10 November 2019 - 01:05 PM)

But both "hollow victory" and pyrrhic victory" are referring to having lost as much as you've gained. IE; a battle was won but both armies were destroyed. The town being seiged is victorious, but all the soldiers are still dead. Nevermore's concept is more "You did it, but it's so ugly we don't know if you actually succeeded".

@  Sabrblade : (10 November 2019 - 11:35 AM)

Alternately, one could probably also call it a "hollow victory".

@  Sabrblade : (10 November 2019 - 11:35 AM)

Example: In the Powerpuff Girls episode "Uh Oh Dynamo", the monster-of-the-day was a really tough, giant-size one that required the use of a really destructive mech to defeat it. While the monster was ultimately beaten, the city of Townsville was utterly trashed by the mech's weapons in the process. So, while the city was saved from the monster, it was harmed even worse by the mech that saved it, making the victory bittersweet.


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#41 LioConvoy

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Posted 09 July 2008 - 10:11 AM

I enjoyed it, personally.

My personal favorite was "deadshot".

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Posted 09 July 2008 - 06:12 PM

It was entertaining, but not must-see or anything. The dubbing in the voices was more obvious in some episodes than others. Bruce was just talking way too quickly sometimes, especially in Test Drive. It sounded unnatural. And the connections between the stories didn't really work for me--they felt kind of half-assed, especially when the one mafia boss is arrested and in the next story he's free. Also, Work Through Pain and Test Drive were both pretty stupid. The other four were a lot more entertaining. I particularly liked the Scarecrow/Killer Croc story. The art style really fit the story in it.

I think i actually enjoyed the extra TAS episodes on the disc more than I did the feature itself (but that's not saying much, considering how extremely awesome TAS is). It's one of those kid shows that, when you watch it 15 years later, none of the old appeal is gone, because they wrote it for an older audience. It's too bad that they're taken from badly deinterlaced 480i source. Oh well icon-hotrod.gif

Oh, and does anyone know if this is set in movie continuity? Or is it like those CG Spider-Man episodes that are just loosely based on movie continuity? Or is it just completely unrelated like TAS?

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Posted 09 July 2008 - 07:54 PM

I enjoyed it; some segments more than others.

The shorts done by Madhouse were the best. I dunno if it was by luck or by design, but they got all the supervillains. Which is fine, because they visually interpretted them maginificently. Killer Croc felt a little hamfisted into the story, but Scarecrow (voiced by Corey Burton!) was glorious.

As I had anticipated, I didn't much care for the segments where Bruce looked like a thirteen year-old boy. Couldn't stand the fact that he and Lucious Fox winked at each other no less than six dozen times in the span of two minutes. God dammit, Japan. Stop. Just stop. The ridiculously curved cowl of his Batman outfit didn't sit well with me, either.

The guy they got to voice Alfred confused me a bit. He sounded like he was doing an Efrem Zimbalist impression rather than a Michael Caine impression. In which case, why not just get Zimbalist? He's still alive and hasn't done anything (according to IMDB) since Justice League.

The casting of Rob Paulson as the leadr of the Italian Mafia also took me out of the experience. I adore Paulson's voice...in kiddy cartoons. But perhaps its because he's so synonimous with comedy and chilren's material that hearing him cursing and trying to sound serious and tough just didn't work for me.


Anyhow, the segments done by Madhouse were worth the price for me and the only parts of the film I was really anticipating. Oddly, the character designs all looked like they were the work of Yoshiaki Kawajiri, but he didn't direct either segment.

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Posted 10 July 2008 - 09:00 AM

I can't wait to get this when I get home.

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Posted 10 July 2008 - 12:07 PM

Oh yeah, one other thing I noticed that didn't sit right with me.

Apparently, they isolated the Narrows, turning them into a massive "Escape from New York"-style prison where deranged criminals are allowed to walk around the streets and buildings unchecked, killing each other?

Seems rather...unconstitutional.

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Posted 11 July 2008 - 07:59 AM

Well, I got it last night, but they hid it on the front porch so I didn't find it until this morning, so I have to wait to watch it later. icon-screamer.gif

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Posted 11 July 2008 - 02:07 PM

It was alright, but I wished I hadn't spent $20 on it. The animation on some of the stories was particularly annoying. Not "bad," just not to my taste. I especially disliked the first story with pudgy Batman.
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Posted 11 July 2008 - 06:08 PM

QUOTE(Pigbag @ Jul 11 2008, 03:07 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
It was alright, but I wished I hadn't spent $20 on it. The animation on some of the stories was particularly annoying. Not "bad," just not to my taste. I especially disliked the first story with pudgy Batman.

Too many experiences like this have lead me to swear off buying DVDs in favor of renting them from Netflix. In fact, I had this DVD in hand by noon the day it was released thanks to Netflix icon-hotrod.gif

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Posted 11 July 2008 - 07:23 PM

Loved it... The kid who saves him in the first story... I hope to god they wanted me to think "GOD DAMN THAT'S TITANS ROBIN" when they cast the same voice actor... cause I did...

I don't mind the animation and yes If you listen to the commentary track, they state this was DUBBED IN ENGLISH ... the picture was already done and Kevin Conroy had to match mouth flaps... TAS was done the other way around.. the voices were done first and then the art was matched to that...

need to watch the bonus episodes yet,

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Posted 11 July 2008 - 11:38 PM

I rented it yesterday and glad I did as I found it rather disapointed considering all of the hype it recieved. The animation was brillant, but I found the stories rather dull to be honest. Yes as Destron explained on the audio commentary they give an explaination as to why everyone seems to be speaking so fast. My favourite of all the segements was the David Goyer one "In Darkness Dwells" I think its called. Also if anyone is curious in the novelization that I read a day before I rented it, the author uses Detective Renee Montoya instead of Anna Rameriez and during the audio commentary for this segment there is a cryptic comment from the producer saying to watch "The Dark Knight" for the reason why she wasn't used. Interesting.

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Posted 13 July 2008 - 04:51 PM

Saw it over the weekend via OnDemand.





It put me to sleep.



Not even the Adam West "Batman" movie managed to do that.

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Posted 13 July 2008 - 06:47 PM

I enjoyed it. I liked some stories better than others. But like Animatrix, that seems to be kinda the point. It gives us differant takes, differant styles of anime and if you don't like one, that's fine. You'll probably find one you do like in one of the other stories.

"Have I got a Story For You" seems to take most of the flack for its animation. Having seen the animated segment from Kill Bill and "Kids Story" on Animatrix, the animation didn't really bother me as much. What I didn't like about it was that it was too derivative from the Animated Series "Legends of the Dark Night" and it didn't do nearly as good a job at it.

But still, I did love "Deadshot," "In Darkness Dwell," and to a lesser extent "Crossfire."

But to me, the icing on the cake is Kevin Conroy. Say what you will about Japanese animation and story telling...anytime I get to hear Kevin's voice acting on Batman, I'm happy.
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Posted 14 July 2008 - 09:06 AM

I've finally watched it all except for some of the bonus features/episodes. I really enjoyed it, as the stories were quite entertaining and the animation was quite well done.

QUOTE(Caldwin @ Jul 13 2008, 06:47 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
But to me, the icing on the cake is Kevin Conroy. Say what you will about Japanese animation and story telling...anytime I get to hear Kevin's voice acting on Batman, I'm happy.


Indeed. I wouldn't have been nearly as stoked for this without him voicing the character.

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Posted 15 July 2008 - 10:16 AM

That got a definite thumbs-up from me. I seem to be the odd one out here by considering "Working Through Pain" my favourite, with Deadshot coming up second.

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Posted 15 July 2008 - 11:22 AM

I liked Crossfire the best myself.

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Posted 16 July 2008 - 03:44 PM

I also really liked "Working Through Pain," even though it was a bit campy. I didn't feel like most of the segments had nearly enough time to tell the stories they tried to tell, with that one being an exception. And sadly, I really liked "Field Test," too, mainly for Fox's bits. Expecting Batman in several unique visual styles in oblique vignette story forms, I ended up liking the two most contained and generic-looking segments and being rather disappointed with the others. So I really didn't get out of it what I had hoped to.
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Posted 16 July 2008 - 09:59 PM

I liked "Working Through Pain," mainly because of what was essentially movie-continuity Lady Shiva (rendered much more impressive than the comics' stereotypical Dangerous Asian Lady).

Though yeah, the out-of-order storytelling bugged me. As did the fact that the costume couldn't decide whether it was cloth or armour.

And finally, DAVID MACCALLUM AS ALFRED!!!!

(Kept expecting Bruce to call him "Ducky.")

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Posted 19 July 2008 - 07:35 AM

I watched it last night via Netflix. Didn't care for most of it. Deadshot was the best, both in terms of storytelling and animation. The voice acting was definitely a notch below what we usually get from DC, but that's the problem with dubbing. Gordon's voice work stuck out as particularly poor to me.