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@  Bass X0 : (16 July 2020 - 09:43 AM)

Circuit-breaker '84, this is Megatron's rubber duck. We've got ourselves a Rodimus Convoy. Do you copy? Over.

@  fourteenwings : (16 July 2020 - 07:06 AM)

I'm not going to sit here and bicker with you. I've made my point very clear and have nothing more to say on the issue.

@  ▲ndrusi : (16 July 2020 - 07:00 AM)

I can't do anything to prevent hurricanes either but it'd be absurd to suggest I therefore shouldn't talk about them.

@  fourteenwings : (16 July 2020 - 06:57 AM)

Basically neither you nor I even like South Park anyways so the best you can do is leave it alone rather than suggest it is corrupting hearts and minds.

@  ▲ndrusi : (16 July 2020 - 06:55 AM)

In that case I'm... not sure what the point is?

@  fourteenwings : (16 July 2020 - 06:53 AM)

Nobody should be taking their morals from South Park. You can't prevent people from doing it. It's an artistic work with fans. I don't think I'm off-track.

@  ▲ndrusi : (16 July 2020 - 06:51 AM)

As far as I can tell you just of course'd the thing you were poopooing...

@  fourteenwings : (16 July 2020 - 06:47 AM)

Also, this is starting to get a bit too serious for the shoutbox (though it already was)

@  fourteenwings : (16 July 2020 - 06:47 AM)

"It's that they're internalizing the overall attitude that the writers display through the show's writing." Of course, that's South Park's "artistic" style. It's what South Park's audience wants, and that's okay.

@  ▲ndrusi : (16 July 2020 - 06:47 AM)

You can probably finish the sentence "I got 50% of my sense of humor from" with the name of some fictional work.

@  fourteenwings : (16 July 2020 - 06:45 AM)

And it still wouldn't be S.W.A.T.'ss or Grey's Anatomy's or South Park's fault.

@  ▲ndrusi : (16 July 2020 - 06:45 AM)

The idea isn't that people are taking South Park's in-universe parody moral lessons seriously (though as Nevermore points out, you can't safely assume that isn't also happening). It's that they're internalizing the overall attitude that the writers display through the show's writing.

@  fourteenwings : (16 July 2020 - 06:45 AM)

"People say" those people are right, and you should listen to them. We can't protect people from themselves, but you can advise them well.

@  Nevermore : (16 July 2020 - 06:27 AM)

So many medical disasters because someone took what they saw on a hospital show at face value.

@  Nevermore : (16 July 2020 - 06:25 AM)

So many people who think police and court procedure works like it does in Hollywood, and act accordingly. Sometimes to their own disadvantage, sometimes just to the frustration of well-meaning authorities.

@  Nevermore : (16 July 2020 - 06:24 AM)

People say "you shouldn't take your morals from a TV show" all the time, but regardless of how these people want things to work doesn't mean other people aren't doing it anyways.

@  fourteenwings : (16 July 2020 - 06:01 AM)

And I mean, if you're looking for a 1950s conservative position on something, it's certainly that a TV show is rotting children's minds.

@  fourteenwings : (16 July 2020 - 06:00 AM)

Conservatives are not hiding under the bed waiting to ruin... uh... Family Guy of all things? And like, nobody should be taking their morals from South Park. Expecting such things is impractical.

@  Maximus Ambus : (16 July 2020 - 01:10 AM)

It was just the cartoon with those foul mouthed kids in the UK until that bubble burst after the movie. Reviewers joked the movies target audience would be unable to see it for the rating.

@  Paladin : (15 July 2020 - 05:14 PM)

see also: "South Park." the show that poisoned a generation by teaching them "it's stupid to feel for other people."

@  Rycochet : (15 July 2020 - 11:04 AM)

'Take that! People who care about things!'

@  Rycochet : (15 July 2020 - 11:02 AM)

With Brian, he stopped being the voice of reason and started to be the right wing notion of a liberal, someone who's lazy, pretentious, doesn't work at anything, is every bit as abusive as the rest of the cast and only wins arguments with strawmen.

@  Otaku : (15 July 2020 - 10:56 AM)

Of course, I stopped enjoying Family Guy around that time, so my bias is clear. XP

@  Otaku : (15 July 2020 - 10:54 AM)

Is it because they changed or we changed?  Stuff that was charming, or at least, funny at first can get really annoying the longer you know a person... and I find that can go for fictional characters as well.

@  ▲ndrusi : (15 July 2020 - 08:03 AM)

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@  Maximus Ambus : (15 July 2020 - 03:45 AM)

One example is Family Guy where around season 8 Brian is suddenly reviled by everyone and has acted way out of character since.

@  Maximus Ambus : (15 July 2020 - 03:44 AM)

My least favorite thing in fiction is when it changes hands so you get a author, writer or showrunner who hates a character or messes with a arc/layout.

@  Sabrblade : (14 July 2020 - 06:02 PM)

You'll shoot yer eye out, kid.

@  TheMightyMol... : (14 July 2020 - 04:36 PM)

I shot the sheriff.

@  ▲ndrusi : (14 July 2020 - 04:24 PM)

han wasn't even in the movie until later

@  ▲ndrusi : (14 July 2020 - 04:23 PM)

the stormtroopers shot first

@  Sabrblade : (14 July 2020 - 03:33 PM)

Maclunkey

@  Paladin : (14 July 2020 - 06:18 AM)

the correct answwer to "who shot first" will always be "Harrison Ford if he ever hears that hugging question again."

@  Maximus Ambus : (14 July 2020 - 12:25 AM)

Han shot first. Plain and simple.

@  -LittleAutob... : (13 July 2020 - 06:21 PM)

\(-_-)

@  Bass X0 : (13 July 2020 - 05:26 PM)

"Here's a little---whatever. A little thing. A disclosure. An insight. Revisionism---I've always been fascinated by it. By the idea of a writer going back and altering things. Make no mistake: an edit is a profoundly aggressive act. As Froid once said, we grieve for the murdered word. If you want to get the measure of an author, don't look at what they've left on the page.... look at what they've taken away." -- Rung (MTMTE #28)

@  Verno : (11 July 2020 - 11:20 PM)

2021: :idea :rolleyes :p :D

@  -LittleAutob... : (11 July 2020 - 06:20 PM)

Perfection. :thumbsup

@  Patch : (11 July 2020 - 06:17 PM)

My plans:  :hmm  2020:  :)

@  -LittleAutob... : (11 July 2020 - 06:02 PM)

Our plans for 2020 were as amazing as Optimus Prime. But then 2020 came like Hot Rod.

@  -LittleAutob... : (11 July 2020 - 05:50 PM)

Indeed....

@  Bass X0 : (11 July 2020 - 05:40 PM)

"He who dies with the most toys wins."

@  Rycochet : (11 July 2020 - 01:11 PM)

Hey you, get moving, it's not too far, you're looking good so come as you are. Hey you, you never know what you'll see, when it's through that door with the 73.

@  Rycochet : (11 July 2020 - 01:10 PM)

Hey you, get ready, get on your feet. Get into gear and hit the street.

@  Maximus Ambus : (11 July 2020 - 12:46 PM)

I recall number 73 (old british show) discussing the Transformers movie and had the presenters trying to transform a few figures, one argued his deflated beach ball was a Transformer too.

@  PlutoniumBoss : (11 July 2020 - 08:03 AM)

And he's a big ball, but he's not the biggest ball of them all. (That'll be Pulse Unicron.)

@  Maximus Ambus : (11 July 2020 - 07:37 AM)

Trypticon so scared my Primus figure he turned into a ball.

@  ▲ndrusi : (09 July 2020 - 09:56 PM)

King Nine, however, will not return.

@  Bass X0 : (09 July 2020 - 05:05 PM)

Bass_X0 will return after these messages ^^^

@  TheMightyMol... : (09 July 2020 - 03:37 PM)

WHATAMIFIGHTINGFOOOOOOOOARRGH


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#1 PiratedTVPro

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Posted 06 May 2008 - 01:39 PM

With the rumor coming up that Matthew McConaughey could be under
consideration for the Captain America film, I was wondering how you
guys would cast the movies... It's hard for me to think of guys that are
shaped the way you'd want Cap and Thor to be shaped, who also have
the blonde hair and blue eyed look. I know that those things can be
taken care of by hair and makeup, but who would you cast?
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Posted 06 May 2008 - 02:30 PM

Well I can't find any pics of him and he's probably too old now, but Billy Smith, who played Thunder on the original American Gladiators was pretty much Thor incarnate.

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Posted 06 May 2008 - 02:42 PM

QUOTE(Kalidor @ May 6 2008, 03:30 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Well I can't find any pics of him and he's probably too old now, but Billy Smith, who played Thunder on the original American Gladiators was pretty much Thor incarnate.


Yeah, but it's going to be hard getting people into the seats by billing the
movie with "BILLY SMITH from the AMERICAN GLADIATORS!" That's the
biggest problem. There's tons to people who look like they could play both
Captain America and Thor, but not many NAMES, I mean, real stars, who
would be able to look like Cap and Thor...
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Posted 06 May 2008 - 02:47 PM

Then they might as well get The Rock to play Thor then.

But realistically, like you said, very few people fit the bill, even fewer that are stars.



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Posted 06 May 2008 - 02:52 PM

Giving someone blonde hair and blue eyes is exactly the toughest thing to do any more. (Hair dye and colour contacts)

I think the key is finding good actors, regardless of what they look like.

Matthew McConaughey maybe look(somewhat) like Cap, but he's a horrific actor. (Also, Cap is not Southern. No no no no no no no no no no no no no no no)

Thor's a much harder cast than Cap is and I have no idea what the possibilities even are. Thor'll have to be a lot slimmer on screen than he is in the books.
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Posted 06 May 2008 - 02:52 PM

Looks-wise, Daniel Craig would OWN as Captain America.

Thor... I got nothing.

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Posted 06 May 2008 - 02:54 PM

QUOTE(Kalidor @ May 6 2008, 03:47 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Then they might as well get The Rock to play Thor then.

But realistically, like you said, very few people fit the bill, even fewer that are stars.


I'd throw Thomas Jane and Aaron Eckhart out there, but they're already kind of
taken, although I'd love to have Thomas Jane as Captain America. From what I
could tell of my time on the Punisher Set (3 WHOLE DAYS) he really loved what
he was doing and wanted to make an amazing movie no matter what. But really
I'd love to see either of their chins in the Captian America cowl...

After seeing Karl Urban in LotR and Pathfinder I think he could pull of a more
svelte Thor. Maybe Dominic Purcell for a much hardier one, and then just to
round it would with three, maybe Josh Holloway (Sawyer from LOST).
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Posted 06 May 2008 - 02:57 PM

A ripped josh holloway(with someone properly shaving him) would be pretty good as Thor, actually.

I'd buy it.
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Posted 06 May 2008 - 03:14 PM

QUOTE(Invincible M @ May 6 2008, 03:52 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Giving someone blonde hair and blue eyes is exactly the toughest thing to do any more. (Hair dye and colour contacts)

I think the key is finding good actors, regardless of what they look like.

Matthew McConaughey maybe look(somewhat) like Cap, but he's a horrific actor. (Also, Cap is not Southern. No no no no no no no no no no no no no no no)

Thor's a much harder cast than Cap is and I have no idea what the possibilities even are. Thor'll have to be a lot slimmer on screen than he is in the books.




I must agree. Coloring can be tailored to fit the part, talent can't.
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Posted 06 May 2008 - 03:18 PM

QUOTE(Paladin @ May 6 2008, 04:14 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I must agree. Coloring can be tailored to fit the part, talent can't.


I agree 100%, but who would fit both is what I'd like to know. If it comes down to
it I'm 100% in the "Bleach his hair and put Contacts In" camp. I want someone like
Downey who is an absolutely inspired choice for these two characters. It just so
happens that Downey is the spitting image of Stark in my mind, so everything was
perfect there...
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Posted 06 May 2008 - 03:19 PM

Too bad he's probably too old now, or you could just cast Dolph "I will break you" Lundgren as Thor. Just toss a wig and some armor on Ivan Drago and he's good to go.

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Posted 06 May 2008 - 03:28 PM

Cap would also need to have a presence, be inspiring, as that's fundamentally important to the character.

Something Mcconaughey could never, ever, ever pull off.

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Posted 07 May 2008 - 12:39 AM

Kevin McKidd (Journeyman, Rome) has been suggested on another forum for Thor.

I can see it.

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Posted 07 May 2008 - 07:53 AM

Oddly I think that for Cap I would like to see Christian Bale

and one of the best people that I could think of for Thor is Viggo Mortensen.

I just think that Bale could do a heck of a job pulling of the all american soldier.

And I think that Viggo has the right rugged looks and decent enough acting skills to pull of thor with the right makeup.

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Posted 07 May 2008 - 09:38 AM

Channing Tatum would make a good Steve/Cap (he's playing Duke in G.I. Joe)

and despite his pro wrestling past... Bill Goldberg is a pretty good actor and could pull off Thor. (or maybe even Odin)


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Posted 07 May 2008 - 10:43 AM

From what I was reading, Marvel wants Triple H, dont know how true that is though.

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Posted 07 May 2008 - 11:03 AM

QUOTE(Predacon_Cryotek @ May 7 2008, 11:43 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
From what I was reading, Marvel wants Triple H, dont know how true that is though.


Dear God No.
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Posted 07 May 2008 - 11:23 AM

QUOTE(PiratedTVPro @ May 6 2008, 03:54 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
QUOTE(Kalidor @ May 6 2008, 03:47 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Then they might as well get The Rock to play Thor then.

But realistically, like you said, very few people fit the bill, even fewer that are stars.


I'd throw Thomas Jane and Aaron Eckhart out there, but they're already kind of
taken, although I'd love to have Thomas Jane as Captain America. From what I
could tell of my time on the Punisher Set (3 WHOLE DAYS) he really loved what
he was doing and wanted to make an amazing movie no matter what. But really
I'd love to see either of their chins in the Captian America cowl...

After seeing Karl Urban in LotR and Pathfinder I think he could pull of a more
svelte Thor. Maybe Dominic Purcell for a much hardier one, and then just to
round it would with three, maybe Josh Holloway (Sawyer from LOST).

I don't know anything about Captain America, other than what the character looks like, and the first thing that came to mind was Thomas Jane. Like you said, he loved what he was doing with The Punisher, and because he didn't like how they were treating the character, he left the sequel. That's what you want out of the star for these kind of films, someone who is willing to take it seriously.

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Posted 07 May 2008 - 12:05 PM

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Posted 07 May 2008 - 03:01 PM

QUOTE(Predacon_Cryotek @ May 7 2008, 10:43 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
From what I was reading, Marvel wants Triple H, dont know how true that is though.

That has been rumored on and off, but the last rumor I heard almost a year ago was that they were looking at Journeyman's Kevin McKidd.
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