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@  Jenny : (11 November 2019 - 08:54 AM)

The toy's designed to look like Wipe-Out, anyway.

@  NotVeryKnightly : (11 November 2019 - 08:14 AM)

Didn't they try to retcon that into a figure of speech because that connection went against everybody else's long-term plans?

@  Maximus Ambus : (11 November 2019 - 03:53 AM)

There's still some connection given Trypticon was created by Mortilus.

@  NotVeryKnightly : (11 November 2019 - 12:12 AM)

Yeah that toy doesn't exactly look like Necrobot.

@  Sabrblade : (10 November 2019 - 08:24 PM)

But.... it's just "Necro" not "Necrobot".

@  TheMightyMol... : (10 November 2019 - 05:10 PM)

But why does the God of Death need a giant space kaiju? Wait, never mind, answered my own question.

@  Maximus Ambus : (10 November 2019 - 02:15 PM)

Yowza I just realised Titans Trypticon comes with Necro AKA Censere AKA Mortilus.

@  Nevermore : (10 November 2019 - 01:15 PM)

I... think the best equivalent would actually be the British "There is room for improvement".

@  Nevermore : (10 November 2019 - 01:15 PM)

There's always a sense of irony to it, but what the ratio between irony (you really failed) and straightworwardness (at least you achieved something) is depends on the situation and the speaker.

@  Nevermore : (10 November 2019 - 01:12 PM)

The meaning can be both literal (you succeed on one level but fail on another), or it can be utterly ironic (you fail in every regard but the most technical; or even worse, "you really gave your best"), and anything in between.

@  Nevermore : (10 November 2019 - 01:10 PM)

For example: A singer can hit the notes really well, but clearly isn't a native speaker and what little of the lyrics you can make out sounds nothing like what it's supposed to be.

@  wonko the sane? : (10 November 2019 - 01:06 PM)

The premise seems to be the mixing of technical and aesthetic technical qualities towards the overall success.

@  wonko the sane? : (10 November 2019 - 01:05 PM)

But both "hollow victory" and pyrrhic victory" are referring to having lost as much as you've gained. IE; a battle was won but both armies were destroyed. The town being seiged is victorious, but all the soldiers are still dead. Nevermore's concept is more "You did it, but it's so ugly we don't know if you actually succeeded".

@  Sabrblade : (10 November 2019 - 11:35 AM)

Alternately, one could probably also call it a "hollow victory".

@  Sabrblade : (10 November 2019 - 11:35 AM)

Example: In the Powerpuff Girls episode "Uh Oh Dynamo", the monster-of-the-day was a really tough, giant-size one that required the use of a really destructive mech to defeat it. While the monster was ultimately beaten, the city of Townsville was utterly trashed by the mech's weapons in the process. So, while the city was saved from the monster, it was harmed even worse by the mech that saved it, making the victory bittersweet.

@  Sabrblade : (10 November 2019 - 11:32 AM)

@Nevermore, sounds to me like what one might call a "bittersweet victory". The goal was met, but at great cost or by disastrous result that call into question if the achieved goal could even be called a success.

@  Arvegtor : (10 November 2019 - 09:40 AM)

Seems to be close enough to "Pyrrhic victory"

@  NotVeryKnightly : (10 November 2019 - 09:37 AM)

What do you get from putting the German term through a translator?

@  wonko the sane? : (10 November 2019 - 08:57 AM)

That is a ridiculously interesting concept. But I don't think english has a singular term for what you're describing.

@  Nevermore : (10 November 2019 - 08:28 AM)

Is there an English equivalent for what we Germans call "deductions in the B rating"? Context: Someone did something and suceeded on a technical level (as in, achieved the intended goal), but failed to some degree in the details, i.e. there was some collateral damage, or while a technical success, the end result is an aestetic failure. It can be used highly ironically, as in "barely achieved the intended goal, but failed so much in every aspect that's not purely technical that it might as well be considered an utter failure altogether." The German term is derived from the old judging syste in figure skating, which gave separate ratings for "technical merit" and "presentation", with the latter being the origin of the German term.

@  SHIELD Agent 47 : (10 November 2019 - 02:32 AM)

Huh. I did not know before today that "medieval" had an alternate spelling "mediaeval". Like "paleontology" and "palaeontology".

@  Maximus Ambus : (09 November 2019 - 04:15 PM)

'Beast Wars in underrated' the comment went. I exploded.

@  PlutoniumBoss : (09 November 2019 - 02:19 PM)

Absolutely.

@  wonko the sane? : (09 November 2019 - 02:14 PM)

So... you can look like a cop from the 70's AND a huge nerd at the same time?

@  PlutoniumBoss : (09 November 2019 - 02:09 PM)

I feel like the best way to carry the Switch would be an under-arm torso holster.

@  Tm_Silverclaw : (09 November 2019 - 12:31 PM)

It's not. hell. If the 3DS zelda case just stretched a LITTLE more it would fit.

@  TheMightyMol... : (09 November 2019 - 03:38 AM)

I feel like the Switch Lite is a bit big to have hanging on your belt like that, but I don't take my Switch out with me often anyway.

@  Tm_Silverclaw : (09 November 2019 - 01:13 AM)

I must be the only one who wants a switch lite case with a belt loop. o.O

@  TheMightyMol... : (08 November 2019 - 03:03 PM)

I'm gonna have "Chainsaw Buffet" and "Candy For the Cannibal" by Lordi playing in my head all night.

@  Maximus Ambus : (08 November 2019 - 12:36 PM)

Trick or treaters can only consent to cannibalism in Germania.

@  Sabrblade : (07 November 2019 - 12:12 PM)

Hey, if the trick or treaters can't take some loving insults, that's their problem.

@  Arazyr : (07 November 2019 - 11:39 AM)

Just make sure to put the leftovers in the fridge, so they don't get spoiled.

@  wonko the sane? : (07 November 2019 - 11:10 AM)

I love children... but I can never eat a whole one.

@  TheMightyMol... : (07 November 2019 - 09:52 AM)

I can neither confirm nor deny this allegation.

@  Paladin : (07 November 2019 - 09:46 AM)

...you don't roast the trick or treaters, do you....

@  wonko the sane? : (07 November 2019 - 09:38 AM)

A cold beer, a warm fire, some smores and trick or treaters... Man, you got this life thing down.

@  wonko the sane? : (07 November 2019 - 09:37 AM)

That actually sounds pretty awesome.

@  MEDdMI : (07 November 2019 - 08:59 AM)

we'll move to the open garage if it's raining

@  MEDdMI : (07 November 2019 - 08:58 AM)

every Halloween since we got a house, TMM and I chill in the driveway with a fire bowl and roast things while handing out candy. It's pretty great.

@  Maximus Ambus : (07 November 2019 - 03:42 AM)

Peter Cullen voiced King Kong let that sink in.

@  TM2-Megatron : (06 November 2019 - 11:42 PM)

I've noticed that after a year or two, though, people with children will start getting into it for their kids

@  TM2-Megatron : (06 November 2019 - 11:41 PM)

I think a lot of the decline you see in Halloween is due to newcomers to Canada who don't really get it... I mean,there are only a handful of countries in the world that practice this particular oddity

@  SHIELD Agent 47 : (06 November 2019 - 12:29 PM)

I recently attended a talk on Samhain and its associated mythology by a professor from Limerick.

@  Otaku : (06 November 2019 - 11:49 AM)

Trunk or Treats have become more popular because it is supposed to be safer, and even if it isn't, it just tends to be easier for the Trick-or-Treaters.

@  wonko the sane? : (06 November 2019 - 11:00 AM)

That's okay: between ever more extreme weather, ever more violent society, and general paranoia of parents: halloweens not doing to well out here either.

@  Anonymous X : (06 November 2019 - 09:30 AM)

We used to have Bonfire Night here in the UK as our thing instead of Halloween... It's withered away for the most part. Halloween used to be the strange American tradition you knew of from ET or various cartoons

@  TheMightyMol... : (06 November 2019 - 06:33 AM)

So that's why I never get invited anywhere.

@  Otaku : (05 November 2019 - 12:36 PM)

@Bass X0 Are we talking about the quality of the costumes or their subject matter?  The former is a natural result of cosplay growing less and less niche over the decades.  The latter isn't new; mass produced stuff is at least as old as you or I and are we sure no one dressed as a cowboy or astronaut or whatever in the 1950's?  Monsters weren't allowed at certain parties, strange as it sounds. XP

@  Benbot : (05 November 2019 - 12:23 PM)

is the quick reply broken for anyone else or is it just me?

@  Pinkcolliebot : (05 November 2019 - 11:30 AM)

Announcement! TF Roll Out Short Gotta Go Fast! Storyboard in the works! Green lit Real Soon.


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Posted 14 April 2008 - 03:01 PM

A spin off of the Rock Band thread. What songs and bands do you hope to see added to the game?

Cake - Never There Link to song
Dispatch - Time Served This is the best sounding version I could find of the song
Reel Big Fish - The Set Up Link
Beastie Boys - Gratitude Link
REM - Exhuming McCarthy It's quiet but it's all I could find

edit: Added song links

Edited by Dreadwings, 14 April 2008 - 08:00 PM.


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Posted 14 April 2008 - 03:30 PM

Come Out and Play - The Offspring
Marilyn Manson - Rock is Dead
Tick Tick Boom by the Hives
Where Have You Been by Reel Big Fish
Robert Palmer - Addicted To Love
I Can't Drive 55 by Sammy Haggar
The Darkness - I believe in a thing called love
Foo Fighters - The Pretender
Buckcherry - Lit Up

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Posted 14 April 2008 - 04:11 PM

Peter Frampton: Do you feel like we do (can remove some of the bass in the middle to cut down on time)

Dire straits: Sultans of Swing!

Anything else is just gravy!

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Posted 14 April 2008 - 05:10 PM

I was actually wondering how they'd do the Peter Frampton voxtar bit the other day if they did it.

Don't Stop Believing.
Led Zeppelin if they can get it.
Megadeth.
Go Your Own Way Fleetwood Mac
That Heart Song (Yeah, I'm down for some lady tracks)
Love Shack
Type O - Black No. 1
Thunderkiss 65
AC/DC
Beatles pay up!
Some cartoon theme songs, either the covered versions from that album a few years ago originals.
Speaking of The Orginals, Spinal Tap
Elvis Costello - Olliver's Army
Rancid
Operation Ivy, particularly Knowledge
On a ska tip, how about some Aquabats! Look at Me I'm a Winner.
Ramallah - Kill a Celebrity
TMBG for the geek crowd Statue Got Me High?
On the geek tip, Ultimate Showdown
Machine Head - Davidian
More Maiden is always good. Something not expected, like Out of the Silent Planet.
I really wish there was more rock'n'rap that didn't suck. Public Enemy/Anthrax.
But there's alway Kid Rock, I suppose. I could do up some Bawaiitidiittever or American Bad Ass.


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Posted 14 April 2008 - 05:20 PM

I would go out and buy Rock Band right now if they had some Type O Negative songs, even though I don't have a console to play it on. (I know there's a PS2 version, but without the DLC, what's the point?)

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Posted 14 April 2008 - 05:25 PM

Okay, when putting this together I tried to think about what makes a good Rock Band song: ideally, something that's fun to play with others, that's primarily guitar/bass/drums/vocals, and that has strong melodies for all parts. Also tried to keep it under 10 major suggestions, and add links and comments, so this won't just be a thread with a bunch of lists. icon-hotrod.gif


1950s: Chuck Berry - Johnny B. Goode

Rock Band currently only goes back to the late 1960s, IIRC. "Johnny B. Goode" is a great early rock song that everyone knows, and it'd be a blast at a party.


1970s: Talking Heads - Psycho Killer

A great song with clean tones and unusual rhythms. May have one too many overdubbed guitars, but I think it'd work.


1980s: The Cure - Pictures of You

The game needs more slow songs, and let's face it, some Cure. This is one of their hits that's dominated more by guitar and bass than keyboard. The original might be too long at 7:45 (and the vocalist would get way bored for the first two minutes), but this single edit would work.


1980s: They Might Be Giants - Ana Ng

I think this one has the least chance of making it, but I can't help suggesting a TMBG song (and hey, there's a lot of crossover between TMBG-geeks and gamer-geeks), and this seems like the best choice. Mainly guitar-driven, unusual timing, great music and melody, definitely a Rock Song.


1990s: Presidents of the USA - Lump

Again, great party song. Short and sweet.


2000s: Jimmy Eat World - The Middle

One of the best clean guitar riffs of the last ten years, and a big hit song. The perfect Jimmy Eat World track to include.


2000s: Flaming Lips - The W.A.N.D. (Parental Advisory: One f-bomb!)

Based around a great riff, very distinct instrumentation, complex-ish drums, and even handclaps! Just edit out that one swear, and I think it'd be great. Plus it's in commercials now, which is how the kids hear the music these days, so it should be familiar.


And many others, of course. More REM (What's the Frequency Kenneth?), more Clash (London Calling?), more Pixies (U-Mass? Debaser?). Green Day and U2 are obvious, they've got dozens of perfect songs for this. As cliched as it is to ask for Led Zeppelin, Van Halen, AC/DC and the Beatles, while they're not among my favorites, they'd certainly work well. I love Beck and eels and Devo and Robyn Hitchcock, but I don't think their hits are well-suited for the game. Maybe some more girl-vocal stuff, like Elastica - Connection, Liz Phair - Never Said, more Garbage or some Heart. Some cheesy hair-ballads like Sister Christian and Every Rose Has Its Thorn. Maybe some bass-driven songs from Primus. There's just so much...

Edited by ChessPieceFace, 14 April 2008 - 05:25 PM.


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Posted 14 April 2008 - 06:45 PM

Just one joy division song, I think shadowplay would make a pretty rad rockband song.
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Posted 14 April 2008 - 07:49 PM

I am both surprised and pleased to see two people mention TMBG songs. I left them off my list cause I thought it would be too farfetched; I guess more people like them than I give credit for.

Its hard to find TMBG songs that a) have a Bass and b) dont concentrate on keyboards/horns/bells. :/ Cyclops Rock might work, but its not what you'd call one of their classics. Spy could be interesting, have 6 or 7 minutes of Big Rock Ending at the end for the complete TMBG live show experience. XD

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Posted 14 April 2008 - 07:52 PM

QUOTE(ChessPieceFace @ Apr 14 2008, 06:25 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Okay, when putting this together I tried to think about what makes a good Rock Band song: ideally, something that's fun to play with others, that's primarily guitar/bass/drums/vocals, and that has strong melodies for all parts. Also tried to keep it under 10 major suggestions, and add links and comments, so this won't just be a thread with a bunch of lists. icon-hotrod.gif


I had been looking for videos but forgot how to embed.
All of the songs that you linked to are wholeheartedly supported by me.

Recharge, for some rap how about something like The Roots? All instruments represented

Beck - Loser
This might depend on how the sitar sounding part gets charted.

Eagles of Death Metal - Speaking in Tounges
This would be very fun to sing if we got to do the actual speaking in tongues part in the middle.

Electric Six - Rock and Roll Evacuation
This is the only version I could find with just the cd version of the song



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Posted 14 April 2008 - 08:13 PM

QUOTE(Dreadwings @ Apr 14 2008, 08:52 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Electric Six - Rock and Roll Evacuation
This is the only version I could find with just the cd version of the song


How in the hell did I forget the Six? Dance Epidemic would be a great song to act *scrubbed* to.



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Posted 14 April 2008 - 08:22 PM

QUOTE(HeyMickey @ Apr 14 2008, 09:13 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
QUOTE(Dreadwings @ Apr 14 2008, 08:52 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Electric Six - Rock and Roll Evacuation
This is the only version I could find with just the cd version of the song


How in the hell did I forget the Six? Dance Epidemic would be a great song to act *scrubbed* to.


If we got Dance Epidemic I would want pleasing interlude I to lead into it. I don't care if it would be pretty boring for the instruments, it's funny enough to make up for it.

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Posted 14 April 2008 - 08:41 PM

QUOTE(Dreadwings @ Apr 14 2008, 01:01 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Cake - Never There Link to song
Reel Big Fish - The Set Up Link
REM - Exhuming McCarthy It's quiet but it's all I could find

QUOTE(recharge138 @ Apr 14 2008, 03:10 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Don't Stop Believing.
Love Shack
Elvis Costello - Olliver's Army
TMBG for the geek crowd Statue Got Me High?

I would buy all of the above if they were offered as DLC. That's one RBF song that could actually work well without a "Trumpet Hero" controller, and it's bouncy as hell. Not my favorite REM song, but good. Journey and Love Shack would be good party songs. I dunno about Statue as a TMBG representation, but I'd take what I could get. icon-hotrod.gif Oliver's Army is a good Costello song, though I'd probably prefer Radio Radio.

QUOTE(HeyMickey @ Apr 14 2008, 05:49 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I am both surprised and pleased to see two people mention TMBG songs. I left them off my list cause I thought it would be too farfetched; I guess more people like them than I give credit for.

Its hard to find TMBG songs that a) have a Bass and b) dont concentrate on keyboards/horns/bells. :/ Cyclops Rock might work, but its not what you'd call one of their classics. Spy could be interesting, have 6 or 7 minutes of Big Rock Ending at the end for the complete TMBG live show experience. XD

You were surprised I mentioned TMBG? Have you SEEN my username? icon-hotrod.gif

Yeah, among their songs that could even come close to being considered "hits," most rely on keyboards or accordion a lot. That's why I went with Ana Ng. Oh, and I guess Boss Of Me is a song people would know... though it's one of a very few TMBG songs I actively dislike. But like I said... I'd take anything.

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Recharge, for some rap how about something like The Roots? All instruments represented

Beck - Loser
This might depend on how the sitar sounding part gets charted.

The Roots are a good idea. I don't know much of their stuff, but the fact that they play as a full band is a good way to sneak in some hip-hop.

Loser... much as I dig it, I think it'd be a boring song to play in Rock Band. The music never changes. Too many of Beck's popular songs are kinda the same way--one riff, one beat, repeat.

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Posted 14 April 2008 - 09:09 PM

QUOTE(HeyMickey @ Apr 14 2008, 04:49 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I am both surprised and pleased to see two people mention TMBG songs. I left them off my list cause I thought it would be too farfetched; I guess more people like them than I give credit for.

Its hard to find TMBG songs that a) have a Bass and b) dont concentrate on keyboards/horns/bells. :/ Cyclops Rock might work, but its not what you'd call one of their classics. Spy could be interesting, have 6 or 7 minutes of Big Rock Ending at the end for the complete TMBG live show experience. XD


...you thought a board full of geeks don't like TMBG? Perhaps you're also on the fence to mention Anime and D&D?

I'm not even a huge fan, but I like them ok and know tons of people who go nuts for em. I wouldn't mind seeing the geek quotient satisfied, and the king of geek bands is probably the way to go.
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Posted 14 April 2008 - 09:14 PM

QUOTE(recharge138 @ Apr 14 2008, 07:09 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I'm not even a huge fan, but I like them ok and know tons of people who go nuts for em. I wouldn't mind seeing the geek quotient satisfied, and the king of geek bands is probably the way to go.

Maybe it's not even that far-fetched. Geeks already got "Still Alive."

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Posted 15 April 2008 - 01:31 PM

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Journey and Love Shack would be good party songs. I dunno about Statue as a TMBG representation, but I'd take what I could get. icon-hotrod.gif Oliver's Army is a good Costello song, though I'd probably prefer Radio Radio.

The Roots are a good idea. I don't know much of their stuff, but the fact that they play as a full band is a good way to sneak in some hip-hop.

Loser... much as I dig it, I think it'd be a boring song to play in Rock Band. The music never changes. Too many of Beck's popular songs are kinda the same way--one riff, one beat, repeat.


Journey wouldn't surprise me, they already have a song in Guitar Hero so they're willing to let their songs be in the game.

On Beck, that was a problem I was trying to get around. Most of his songs would be fun to sing but it would be wiser to pick one of his more mainstream songs. Loser was one of the better songs because there is the main riff but there is also the sitar part which could change things up a bit. On drums its repetitive but it sounds pretty interesting. Roam is similar when it comes to drums, it barely changes things up at all. Bass is the only glaring boring point but there are lots of songs in the game that neglect the bass.

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Posted 15 April 2008 - 03:27 PM

If they chose love shack, how would they handle the vocals? Would you sing both male and female parts?

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Posted 15 April 2008 - 03:38 PM

You do on Gimmie Shelter. Near the end you sing the female bit.
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Posted 15 April 2008 - 04:41 PM

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Come Out and Play - The Offspring

Robert Palmer - Addicted To Love

I Can't Drive 55 by Sammy Haggar

Foo Fighters - The Pretender

Buckcherry - Lit Up

Agreed on all of those, and a VERY big OH HELLS YEAH for the Hagar song (which is why I had to bold it up icon-fire.gif) Unfortunately, I have a feeling that the Buckcherry song will never make it, since it's pretty much about a guy telling he's all about Cocaine and its use... somehow I don't think Harmonix would let that one fly.
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Posted 15 April 2008 - 04:51 PM

....except they've already done Sweet Leaf.
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Posted 15 April 2008 - 05:04 PM

Mmm. Didn't think of that.
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