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@  LordGigaIce : (26 April 2017 - 03:37 AM)

yeah...this could just end up as a way for them to sell our grandkids Crystal Pepsi Max

@  TM2-Megatron : (26 April 2017 - 03:35 AM)

Well, maybe this facebook mind reading thing I've been hearing about is the first step to that.... though I have to admit I'd prefer if it weren't such an advertising and data-collection obsessed company working on it

@  LordGigaIce : (26 April 2017 - 03:25 AM)

i'm legitimately hoping for the day when that happens, my snark aside, TM2-Megatron. Imagine what could be accomplished if future generations had first hand knowledge of the thoughts and contexts of the events that shaped their ancestors', and their own, world?

@  TM2-Megatron : (26 April 2017 - 03:24 AM)

Even if it's just a way to download knowledge and memories without consciousness from a brain, I think that would go a long way towards easing people's minds.

@  TM2-Megatron : (26 April 2017 - 03:22 AM)

I dunno; like life itself I think the things that define it are open to change. It's not like I have grand expectations of immortality, constantly downloading my consciousness into freshly-grown genetically-enhanced clones of myself. But I think it's a waste for so much accumulated experience and memories to just wink out.

@  LordGigaIce : (26 April 2017 - 03:21 AM)

or something

@  LordGigaIce : (26 April 2017 - 03:21 AM)

all semblence of order our purpose are symtoms of the sickness in man's ego mad mind. sense is not possible until the end.

@  LordGigaIce : (26 April 2017 - 03:19 AM)

existence is a vulgar absurdity

@  unluckiness : (26 April 2017 - 03:18 AM)

Eh, death is part of what defines life. Sooner we accept that it's just a thing that happens, the better.

@  Pennpenn : (26 April 2017 - 03:13 AM)

Probably be easier to develop that kind of thing if a significant portion of the population didn't think it was going to happen anyway for no adequately explainable reason.

@  TM2-Megatron : (26 April 2017 - 02:42 AM)

Death doesn't terrify me, but I have to admit I find the notion of its inevitably more than a little disappointing. I'd hope there's eventually some way to preserve our minds in some form prior to death

@  TheMightyMol... : (26 April 2017 - 01:55 AM)

Or maybe some broken kid in a giant cyborg will turn us all into tang. Who knows what the future brings?

@  Waspinator : (26 April 2017 - 01:52 AM)

As someone terrified of death, I for one welcome our transhumanist singularity overlords.

@  TheMightyMol... : (26 April 2017 - 01:52 AM)

Our grandchildren's grandchildren's grandchildren's grandchildren will be less than dust before heat death matters anyway.

@  2017 : (26 April 2017 - 01:51 AM)

Signularity is a meaningless buzzword, like a lot of this transhumanist late-game stuff.

@  Evac : (26 April 2017 - 01:43 AM)

Or we could go "extinct" in a Singularity, becoming one with our technology to the extent we cease to exist in our current state.

@  Waspinator : (26 April 2017 - 01:37 AM)

Or we'll be killed by Skynet and unleash a plague of von Neumann probes upon the universe.

@  2017 : (26 April 2017 - 01:37 AM)

Assuming all humans leave Earth, of course. Plenty won't, or won't be able to.

@  Evac : (26 April 2017 - 01:35 AM)

Technically it could be subspecies of Homo sapiens... But after a couple thousand years away from Earth, it's kind of inevitable humanity will evolve to adapt to strange new habitats.

@  Evac : (26 April 2017 - 01:33 AM)

We'd have to adapt to different conditions, especially when we're unable to return to Earth.

@  Evac : (26 April 2017 - 01:32 AM)

I can't really see humanity in its current state if/after we "go cosmic," though. You'll have different people adapting to living in zero-G environments, on colonies on other planets that have various conditions...

@  Evac : (26 April 2017 - 01:29 AM)

True.

@  2017 : (26 April 2017 - 01:29 AM)

Evolution doesn't mean extinction of a previous state always, tho.

@  Evac : (26 April 2017 - 01:27 AM)

Well, humans as we know them (Homo sapiens) will probably go extinct at some point as the species evolves further. That's only if we somehow don't destroy ourselves.

@  TheMightyMol... : (26 April 2017 - 12:26 AM)

Oh, humanity will go hypercritical and wipe itself out long before that's a concern.

@  Waspinator : (25 April 2017 - 11:04 PM)

All we need to do is built Diebuster to haul us away from the sun

@  Evac : (25 April 2017 - 10:36 PM)

Okay, well all of us will be dead. Jury's out on our descendants.

@  Evac : (25 April 2017 - 10:36 PM)

But we'll either be dead or be forced off the planet well before that point, since Earth will turn into a Venus-style hellhole in about a billion years.

@  Evac : (25 April 2017 - 10:29 PM)

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@  Evac : (25 April 2017 - 10:29 PM)

About five billion years, actually.

@  Waspinator : (25 April 2017 - 09:38 PM)

Go check that episode of Doctor Who to see what date they said.

@  wonko the sane? : (25 April 2017 - 09:26 PM)

We got a date for that yet? I want to clear my schedule to watch it.

@  Waspinator : (25 April 2017 - 08:46 PM)

There are some more immediate doomsday scenarios on a more local level, like the sun expanding and consuming us all.

@  Evac : (25 April 2017 - 08:25 PM)

In a few trillion years, there's going to be a Big Rip, a heat death, a Big Crunch or a Big Bounce, so- wait, you're talking about Stargate.

@  Xellos : (25 April 2017 - 08:20 PM)

I just wish Universe had a conclusive ending...

@  wonko the sane? : (25 April 2017 - 07:53 PM)

They had to try something new, and it didn't work.

@  Echowarrior : (25 April 2017 - 07:31 PM)

SG-1 was a good series. Atlantis too. Universe...dear god was that ever a misfire.

@  Xellos : (25 April 2017 - 02:56 PM)

Started watching SG-1 right before season 9. The Stargate were the last live action series that could hold my attention week to week.

@  Rycochet : (25 April 2017 - 02:52 PM)

Sg1 really lost it's appeal once they got too far into the ancients/ascended plotlines.

@  Gizmoboy : (25 April 2017 - 02:48 PM)

I enjoyed the movie. Never got into the TV Series.

@  BlackMax : (25 April 2017 - 02:19 PM)

About twenty since I cared. :D :D :D

@  Whirl Maximus : (25 April 2017 - 01:50 PM)

ten years since Stargate SG1 ended.

@  WorkbenchManiac : (25 April 2017 - 11:05 AM)

it's all about that sweet, savory monosodium glutamate!

@  TheMightyMol... : (25 April 2017 - 10:58 AM)

If you're eating cheap Chinese, nutritional value is probably not the first thing on your mind.

@  Paladin : (25 April 2017 - 10:56 AM)

depends on where you get them from, but sometimes the paper has more nutritional value.

@  Robowang : (25 April 2017 - 10:21 AM)

I have actually eaten the cookie without opening it before. I didn't realize it until my wife asked what my fortune was.

@  BlackMax : (25 April 2017 - 09:18 AM)

It's like the fortune cookies. After getting so many over the years I just barely notice them.

@  Pennpenn : (25 April 2017 - 09:17 AM)

Sorry, yeah, I also dislike any policy which involves including putting Optimus Prime in teriyaki chicken.

@  unluckiness : (25 April 2017 - 09:13 AM)

That sounds like an unfair assessment of the teriyaki chicken.

@  Pennpenn : (25 April 2017 - 09:10 AM)

Yeah but there's no way they weren't designing it with the Optimus Maximus or whatever in mind. That said I could just be annoyed because I dislike the "every line must have at least one Optimus Prime in there somewhere" policy that Hasbro seems to have.


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#1 Spark

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Posted 05 April 2008 - 09:32 PM

I was digging through Micromasters and started thinking about notions I was absolutely sure of when I was little that I didn't find out were wrong till years later one way or another...

-G1 Hubcap was Bumblebee. Hey, they were both yellow and tiny, but Hubcap had a FACE like on the show!

-G1 Pointblank was a new Hot Rod. ...Er, yeah. I thought this right up until I saw an '87 catalog and Rebirth around '94 or so. Plus, I didn't get a Hot Rod figure until he was reissued in Japan the first time.

-G1 Fixit was so totally Ratchet. I had no idea what the Micromasters' names were until years later.

-G1 Tote was so totally Ironhide. Uh, ditto.


So what goofy things did you believe till you found out otherwise?

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Posted 05 April 2008 - 09:42 PM

I could keep the Micromasters separate, but there was no such guy as Ratchet (First Aid was clearly around the entire time). Prowl and Streetwise were the same guy, and his name was Red Alert. Devastator was yellow. There were exactly four Dinobots.

Perhaps the best part of my childhood confusion was that I somehow managed to combine Five Faces of Darkness and The Rebirth into one huge, epic story in my head.

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Posted 05 April 2008 - 09:45 PM

QUOTE(Andrusi @ Apr 5 2008, 10:42 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Perhaps the best part of my childhood confusion was that I somehow managed to combine Five Faces of Darkness and The Rebirth into one huge, epic story in my head.

They actually fit together okay if you watch them back to back. Mostly.
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Posted 05 April 2008 - 10:04 PM

I remember being real little and trying to tf my actionmasters into vehicle mode. Same with beastbox. I had lost squalktalk early on, and for some reason thought I could get him to turn into a robot on his own (since he had the face). In both situations I was real little and thought it was just me making a mistake and not transforming them correctly, as opposed to it just not being possible in the first place.

I also used micromasters as equivalents of the bots I didn;t have. The military-like micros (A armored car, tank, black helicopter, and one other) were my combaticons.

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Posted 05 April 2008 - 10:35 PM

Heh, I used to think Skyfall actually had a vehicle mode since theoretically he transforms just like the Pretenders robot innards, so I'd fold his legs outwards and put his arms pointing back like Waverider. Worked okay, actually.
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Posted 05 April 2008 - 10:35 PM

I used to think the lines on the crest of the autobot symbol was supposed to be its eyes. It actualy took me a few years to realize the negative space below them was it's optics. *shrug*
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Posted 05 April 2008 - 10:41 PM

QUOTE(Spark @ Apr 5 2008, 09:32 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
-G1 Hubcap was Bumblebee. Hey, they were both yellow and tiny, but Hubcap had a FACE like on the show!


G1 Hubcap WAS Bumblebee. He got rebuilt in "The Return of Optimus Prime" and took the new name.


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Posted 05 April 2008 - 10:41 PM

QUOTE(jamieslan @ Apr 5 2008, 10:35 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I used to think the lines on the crest of the autobot symbol was supposed to be its eyes. It actualy took me a few years to realize the negative space below them was it's optics. *shrug*


The Decepticon symbol was seen to me like this, probably until I was about 6:
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Posted 05 April 2008 - 10:43 PM

My original timeline went like this: Machine Wars --> Beast Wars --> Beast Machines. Apparently, I thought MW was G1. icon-fire.gif

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Posted 05 April 2008 - 11:04 PM

I thought Beast Wars and Transformers were two different franchises. It was during Beast Wars's first run, and I didn't know Transformers even existed.
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Posted 05 April 2008 - 11:10 PM

QUOTE(Sailor Unicron @ Apr 5 2008, 11:04 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I thought Beast Wars and Transformers were two different franchises. It was during Beast Wars's first run, and I didn't know Transformers even existed.

Through no fault of your own, really. I think a lot of people thought Beast Wars was a Transformers ripoff until the G1 references started coming.

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Posted 05 April 2008 - 11:16 PM

-This one kid from Sunday school was telling me about the Cassetticons, and said "My friend has those tapes. They really play!" Since I didn't have any of my own, I actually believed him at first.

-Since Octane was showcased in the same commercial that introduced the Autobot Triple Changers, I came away thinking Octane was also an Autobot.

-After a while, my memories of TF:TM, "Five Faces of Darkness", and "The Rebirth" all blurred together, and as a result, I spent literally years misremembering that the debuts of Metroplex and Trypticon and Bumblebee's adoption of the name Goldbug had all happened in the movie.

-At the end of "The Return of Optimus Prime", when Galvatron says "There will be no war today", I interpreted it to mean that the Autobot/Decepticon conflict had permanently ended. At the same time, I didn't extrapolate from that that "TRoOP" was the series finale- just that the cartoon would revolve around some other conflict from that point on.

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Posted 05 April 2008 - 11:33 PM

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-This one kid from Sunday school was telling me about the Cassetticons, and said "My friend has those tapes. They really play!" Since I didn't have any of my own, I actually believed him at first.

I think everyone's had an idiot friend that said that at some point. Also, Soundwave and/or Blaster (whichever one you didn't have) could totally play tapes.
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Posted 05 April 2008 - 11:38 PM

I interpreted one of the early Soundwave commercials ot mean that everyone had a little guy that popped out of his chest. When I finally got a Transformer, Twin Twist, I figured that his gun's natural ability to fold into a little rectangle, shrink, and be stowed in his chest just wasn't the kind of thing a toy could be expected to represent.

My schedule didn't allow me to watch post-movie eps regularly, so a helpful kid in the lunch line filled me in on what had happened to the human characters. Sparkplug didn't show up anymore because Snapgragon had EATEN HIM, and SPAT OUT HIS SKELETON. It's possible he was misremembering Overkill vs. Daniel. It's also possible he was insane.

I remember a kid at camp explaining to me that the cool thing about rubsigns was that there were Decepticon versions of ALL the Mini-Bots, and he had a Decepticon Beachcomber. I realize now that he was talking about Mini-Spies, and probably had a blue Jeep... I wasn't aware of Mini-Spies at the time, as they weren't in catalogs.

Oh, and from 1987 through around 2000 or so I mistransformed Fort Max. I had his chest window going the wrong way in city mode.

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Posted 06 April 2008 - 12:00 AM

I had a lot of trouble with the Skyfire / Jetfire thing. I had never seen the toy, so I had no idea why this guy had two different names. I think I even scribbled over the name "Jetfire" in my Transformers Universe #2 and wrote in "Skyfire" in pencil. A similar problem occurred with the coloring books that called Cliffjumper "Blow-Out".

I believed in blue Bluestreak.

Not quite childhood, but in the early days of the internet there was a Character List on some site naming every episode each character appeared in. It said Topspin and Twin Twist appeared in The Ultimate Weapon, and I really took it to heart. Years later, I finally admitted they didn't after going through the DVD frame. by. frame.

I also had problems accepting the Transformers: Generation 2 cartoon. I was so excited that Transformers was back on the air, I didn't realize at first that it was just a bunch of repeats. The first G2 episode I saw was "The Core", which didn't help since the animation was obviously different, and it was one of those episodes I either missed completely or didn't remember from G1. But as I was watching it, my neurons kept misfiring because the Constructicons weren't YELLOW! How could this be a G2 cartoon if they were still green?!

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Posted 06 April 2008 - 12:04 AM

When I was a kid, I had no idea what the hell was up with Headmasters and Powermasters, whether they were little guys driving regular Transformers or Transformers that could eject their heads and run away when they got beaten or were people who built Transformers suits to work with the other Transformers. I just knew they were AWESOME.
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Posted 06 April 2008 - 01:25 AM

For years I "remembered" that the two generic Autobots who died in the acid vat inside Unicron in TFTM were Wheeljack and Ironhide.


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Posted 06 April 2008 - 02:25 AM

Despite being born in '81, my childhood G1 viewing experience went: G1 season one (On video), Movie, season 3. As a result, I thought that every 1985 toy/character in the movie not featured in the first season (For instance, Triple Changers, Coneheads, Blaster and Perceptor) had his first appearance IN the movie. I had no idea that they were in the cartoon before the movie, or that such a thing as "season two" of the cartoon even existed until I saw G2 on TV in 1995. Similarly, I thought the first appearance of the 1986 combiners was in Five Faces of Darkness, and had no idea that the Combaticons, Stunticons and Aerialbots had proper introductions before the movie.

The first time I watched Beast Wars (In the middle of the first season), I thought they were supposed to be renamed versions of G1 characters, and kept trying in vain to identify which G1 characters they were meant to be. (This was, uh, when I was 16, so not exactly "early"... >_>)

The first time I saw Nightbeat, I thought he was a new version of Tracks (Blue car with flames). I...think the misconception stuck for a short time after I actually *owned* the figure...

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Posted 06 April 2008 - 02:51 AM

In 4th grade I was pretty convinced I'd saw an Orange colored Optimus Prime who had his exact trailer but it didn't open before the red Prime came out.

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Posted 06 April 2008 - 02:56 AM

Before I heard his name or saw him transform, I believed Gas Skunk was a scorpion.

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