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@  Paladin : (15 November 2019 - 11:37 AM)

and it was ALSO eleven hours long.

@  Maximus Ambus : (15 November 2019 - 10:55 AM)

In a alternate reality Peter Jackson made Son of Kong.

@  wonko the sane? : (15 November 2019 - 09:30 AM)

To be fair to boba: everyone else to go into the sarlacc was a sacrifice. Stripped almost naked and tossed, and didn't have body armor, a jetpack and a weapon.

@  TheMightyMol... : (15 November 2019 - 06:54 AM)

Nah, he just has to keep up his plot insurance payments so he can shoot his way out of the Sarlacc again.

@  PlutoniumBoss : (15 November 2019 - 02:59 AM)

Funny, but everyone knows he bounty hunts for Jabba Hutt to finance his 'Vette.

@  Tm_Silverclaw : (15 November 2019 - 02:54 AM)

Okay.. Not sure why.. but streaming is harder than jsut playing the game.. even though that's pretty much what I was doing.

@  Xellos : (14 November 2019 - 06:47 PM)

What type of vehicle does Boba Fett use for time travel? A Man-DeLorean.

@  TM2-Megatron : (14 November 2019 - 03:55 PM)

Admittedly, it's been a long time since I've been to a walk-in clinic, as I tend not to get sick (and the one time I do every 4-5 years, I prefer just riding it out at home), but the last time I went I'm pretty sure you could just show up, no appointment. It may be different in Quebec,though

@  Nevermore : (14 November 2019 - 02:36 PM)

One thing to note about health insurance in Germany is that we have a two-class system: mandatory health insurance is basically the economy class, while private health insurance is the business class.

@  Nevermore : (14 November 2019 - 02:32 PM)

My local doctor is actually a shared office with several doctors where you will get randomly assigned to one of the doctors available that day.

@  Nevermore : (14 November 2019 - 02:30 PM)

Also, employers are required by law to cover part of their employees' health insurance fees, so I only have to pay my part.

@  Nevermore : (14 November 2019 - 02:28 PM)

Basic examinations and sick notes (known as "work-inability certificates" in Germany) for the employer are covered by our health insurances by default.

@  TheMightyMol... : (14 November 2019 - 12:02 PM)

Around here, we can go to a walk-in clinic whenever, but might have to wait in the queue until there's a doctor available, which can take hours on a busy day. And then hope our insurance will cover anything.

@  wonko the sane? : (14 November 2019 - 07:38 AM)

There actually are a good number of clinics around here: but the walk ins require an appointment (what?) and are only done once a week. IF you can get an appointment, you see a doctor usually within 40 minutes, but good luck getting the appointment.

@  Nevermore : (14 November 2019 - 03:35 AM)

Depending on the day.

@  Nevermore : (14 November 2019 - 03:35 AM)

We have family doctors (called "house doctors") with regular office hours where you may need an hour or two of waiting time.

@  TM2-Megatron : (14 November 2019 - 12:50 AM)

Two weeks? That seems a little long; are there not a lot of walk-in clinics around you?

@  wonko the sane? : (13 November 2019 - 07:01 PM)

Does germany make it quick and easy to see a doctor too? Cause an emergency doctor visit can take two weeks out here, and an emergency ROOM visit can take 18-24 hours.

@  Nevermore : (13 November 2019 - 06:43 PM)

(Good thing is, under German law, if you call in sick during your vacation and see a doctor immediately, you get to keep your vacation days.)

@  Nevermore : (13 November 2019 - 06:42 PM)

Too bad. My plans wee to do two more overtime hours before having my last day of vacation for the year on Friday. Oh well.

@  Nevermore : (13 November 2019 - 06:41 PM)

So I'm currently on medical leave for a particularly stupid reason: Burned my back with a hot-water bag while sleeping last night. Though the doctor said I'm hardly the first person to have this happen to them.

@  Patch : (13 November 2019 - 06:11 PM)

Just a particularly odious example of the 90s era of depicting transgender women as either the subject of crude humor, or "Jerry Springer" material.

@  Ashley : (13 November 2019 - 04:55 PM)

I think Ace Ventura legit contributed to me spending years in self denial. I will never be ok with Jim Carrey.

@  Benbot : (13 November 2019 - 01:22 PM)

I thought he since changed his tune.

@  Tm_Silverclaw : (13 November 2019 - 12:51 PM)

Jim Carry Paladin?

@  Maximus Ambus : (13 November 2019 - 12:22 PM)

Don't doubt what he can do. Sonic the Hedgehog!

@  Paladin : (13 November 2019 - 11:51 AM)

not giving a dime to a transphobic antivaxxer.

@  wonko the sane? : (13 November 2019 - 11:25 AM)

It'll be a terrible movie if jim carrey phones it in. Otherwise it should be decent.

@  Paladin : (13 November 2019 - 10:45 AM)

sonics' still gonna be a terrible movie but at least they whined loud enough to make him look passable for a 2-minute trailer. "yay."

@  ▲ndrusi : (13 November 2019 - 10:37 AM)

But of course to annoying people there's no such thing as different decisions made for different reasons, there is only "I like it so it's right" and "I don't like it so it's wrong."

@  ▲ndrusi : (13 November 2019 - 10:35 AM)

Even if we pretend it's objective truth that they were both bad, then they were bad in very different ways.

@  ▲ndrusi : (13 November 2019 - 10:33 AM)

Sonic's previous movie design looked genuinely bad. The Transformers '07 designs just looked insufficiently like what certain loud and obnoxious parts of the fandom think Transformers are required to always look like.

@  Otaku : (13 November 2019 - 08:50 AM)

Um... Purple Monkey Dishwasher?

@  TheMightyMol... : (13 November 2019 - 08:25 AM)

Do we really need to have Every Movie Transformer Thread Ever in the Squawkbox?

@  Bass X0 : (13 November 2019 - 08:13 AM)

Sure it made money but that doesn’t mean it has appealing character designs. Lot of god awful fugly faces in the Transformers movies.

@  Otaku : (12 November 2019 - 08:25 PM)

@Liege My issue with Transformers (2007) were elements I thought were unnecessary.  I know it was supposed to just be a joke, but I didn't ever need to hear about "Sam's Happy Time". >.> Which, being in awe of the first "live action" TF-film, didn't even register until I'd already purchased and watched it on DVD a few times (after seeing it in theaters 3 times).

@  Liege : (12 November 2019 - 08:22 PM)

For all the Bayisms in the 07 movie, it was tempered by Spielberg as producer. Designs aside it was an enjoyable popcorn blockbuster about a boy and his first car who happens to be an alien from another planet. They sequels are just Bay going unchecked after he proved how much bank he could bring in.

@  TM2-Megatron : (12 November 2019 - 07:12 PM)

I didn't find the designs in the '07 movie to be that bad, personally. What got really offputting was how Cybertronians in general become such huge a-holes in the later films; the designs were very much secondary to their horrible personalities

@  Sabrblade : (12 November 2019 - 06:59 PM)

And yet, Transformers still broke the bank at the box office, opened up the brand to a whole new generation of fans, shot the brand up to mainstream appeal, and enabled all kinds of new collector-oriented lines and other avenues to come about. Not saying Sonic's movie will do the same for his series, but the 2007 TF movie certainly did more good than harm.

@  Bass X0 : (12 November 2019 - 06:09 PM)

Paramount changed Sonic due to fan backlash but refused to redo Transformers 2007 with new cgi appearances based on their classic forms everyone’s knows and loves, and can relate to. Trailer 1 Sonic is as appealing a design as 2007 Bumblebee...

@  TheMightyMol... : (12 November 2019 - 02:14 PM)

I don't. They're a pain in the ass to repair.

@  Benbot : (12 November 2019 - 12:48 PM)

I wish car companies would bring back flip up headlights

@  TheMightyMol... : (12 November 2019 - 09:07 AM)

Wear a hazmat suit. It's Walmart, they're used to weird.

@  wonko the sane? : (12 November 2019 - 07:54 AM)

2 inches of snow on the side of the house, 2 feet of snow on the deck. I hate this winter already.

@  Tm_Silverclaw : (11 November 2019 - 11:33 PM)

But that requires actually going IN walmart. ;P

@  Liege : (11 November 2019 - 11:22 PM)

Pro tip for anyone hunting the for the Walmart 35th exclusives: try the seasonal aisles rather than the toy section. I found the display with all the exclusives and a bunch of the reflector wave practically untouched amongst those novelty arcade machines and a bunch of frozen merch.

@  SHIELD Agent 47 : (11 November 2019 - 09:45 PM)

Although that does spark an idea for me. In a new continuity, Censere the Necrobot could be the herald Cityspeaker for Quintessa the Necrotitan just to play on their monikers utilizing Greek for dead, nekrós.

@  SHIELD Agent 47 : (11 November 2019 - 09:26 PM)

I hate to burst your bubble, Maximus Ambus, but 90% of things said in IDW turned out to be amnesiac half-rememberings courtesy of Adaptus or outright lies courtesy of Shockwave.

@  Jenny : (11 November 2019 - 08:54 AM)

The toy's designed to look like Wipe-Out, anyway.

@  NotVeryKnightly : (11 November 2019 - 08:14 AM)

Didn't they try to retcon that into a figure of speech because that connection went against everybody else's long-term plans?


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#1 PiratedTVPro

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Posted 02 April 2008 - 11:35 AM

EDIT: I WANT TO BE COMPLETELY OBVIOUS HERE. AS NEW SECRET INVASION
ISSUES COME OUT WE CAN TALK ABOUT THEM IN HERE. NONE OF THE LEAKS
OR RUMORS ARE TO BE OPENLY DISCUSSED, ONLY THE OFFICIAL RELEASES. SO
IF YOU ARE GOING TO COMMENT ON THEM, PLEASE USE THE SPOILER TAG.


#1 Comes out today. Looks like a couple of the rumor sites had it right and there
really is a lot of crap that goes down in this issue. I for one, didn't think there were
going to be quite so many people come out of that ship, and the invasion fleet, on
their way past SWORD space station, really cool.

Also, the art, I think at least, really takes off once there's a ton of character in panel.
I don't know why, but it seems like that's where Yu really shines...

... and something from Bendis over at Newsarama today...

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Not all Skrulls on earth know that they are, in fact, Skrulls.
?It?s something else for the internet to hate me over.?


Yeah, so now we throw that into the mix.

Edited by PiratedTVPro, 30 April 2008 - 01:28 PM.

Yep.

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Posted 02 April 2008 - 12:51 PM

Yu's material is always top-notch, and Secret Invasion is no exception. What a great issue to kick off the series with! And with Yu, chances are good that this book won't be late!

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Not all Skrulls on earth know that they are, in fact, Skrulls.
?It?s something else for the internet to hate me over.?


That's what I figured would happen. I expected a New Avenger or two to be Skrulls, but the only way they were able to pass Dr.Strange's test was to have no knowledge that they were Skrulls.

The one thing I'm really surprised at is that there were so many A-list characters with on-goings that *looks* like they've been Skrulls all along. Iron Man? Wolverine? SPIDERMAN??? Wow.....I'm particularly curious about Cap's story. If Cap was replaced......wouldn't the Skrull have reverted back to his true form after he was shot?

So many questions, but four weeks before the next issue.........it looks like Marvel has finally succeeded in convincing me to getting tie-ins this time around.

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Posted 02 April 2008 - 01:09 PM

QUOTE(Captain N @ Apr 2 2008, 01:51 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
The one thing I'm really surprised at is that there were so many A-list characters with on-goings that *looks* like they've been Skrulls all along. Iron Man? Wolverine? SPIDERMAN??? Wow.....I'm particularly curious about Cap's story. If Cap was replaced......wouldn't the Skrull have reverted back to his true form after he was shot?


Here's my thoughts. There's no reason why everyone in the skrull ship
is actually who they say they are. I think a better plot twist will be that
some of them are real heroes who have been taken out and replaced,
and then others will be skrulls, maybe even the majority of them, who
have been put in there just to make the current non-skrull heroes even
more freaked out...
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Posted 02 April 2008 - 01:34 PM

QUOTE(PiratedTVPro @ Apr 2 2008, 02:09 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Here's my thoughts. There's no reason why everyone in the skrull ship
is actually who they say they are. I think a better plot twist will be that
some of them are real heroes who have been taken out and replaced,
and then others will be skrulls, maybe even the majority of them, who
have been put in there just to make the current non-skrull heroes even
more freaked out...


Agreed.

I'm going to have to take notes just to keep track of who's a Skrull and who's not. Geeeez.

Also, why is Reed surprised at the Elektra Skrull? Wasn't he there at the Illuminati meeting?

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Posted 02 April 2008 - 02:10 PM

QUOTE(Captain N @ Apr 2 2008, 02:34 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Also, why is Reed surprised at the Elektra Skrull? Wasn't he there at the Illuminati meeting?


I'd like to assume this is happening just after the Illuminati meeting and
they're still talking things out. If not it could be just Reed, Tony and Hank
all thinking out loud and pitching ideas around. I do this a lot with my
friends and coworkers when we're really trying to figure something out...

EDIT: Secret Invasion Saga (the official lead-up to Secret Invasion) ends
with the Illuminati members leaving that meeting, so I'm going to assume
that this happens directly afterwards...

So, who do we know for sure?

Jarvis. Dum Dum. Hank Pym. Right?

Edited by PiratedTVPro, 02 April 2008 - 02:16 PM.

Yep.

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Posted 02 April 2008 - 02:25 PM

Oooh, i'm feeling very skrully right now!

TVPro is right, i'm betting the heroes on that ship are mixed in with Skrulls in disguise.

I'm betting Luke Cage in NA is a sleeper Skrull, as are Wonder Man and Black Widow in MA. Sentry's wife is a Skrull too. Mockingbird being back is kind of funny also.

Anyone else hear a "dun dun DUN" music track in their mind whenever they say the word Skrull? It's so cornball 50's, it's hilarious.

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Posted 02 April 2008 - 02:32 PM

Spiderman being a Skrull would be a stroke of genius for Quesada.

You can saddle the Skrull impersonator with all that deal with the devil OMD stuff while the "real" Spiderman was captured before he and MJ were married.

Thus both camps can essentially get what they want without damaging the character.

A real masterstroke, hat's off to Marvel.

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Posted 02 April 2008 - 02:36 PM

QUOTE(MrBlud @ Apr 2 2008, 03:32 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Spiderman being a Skrull would be a stroke of genius for Quesada.

Do you really think that Marvel's version of the Devil wouldn't be able to tell
the difference between a real Spiderman and a Skrull impersonator? I mean,
the guy could read parts of Peter's soul...
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Posted 02 April 2008 - 02:39 PM

Maybe Mephisto was messing with MJ the entire time?

Also, I'm not a fan of this storyline.

Seems underwhelming in a way.
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Posted 02 April 2008 - 02:42 PM

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Do you really think that Marvel's version of the Devil wouldn't be able to tell
the difference between a real Spiderman and a Skrull impersonator? I mean,
the guy could read parts of Peter's soul...


That depends, do you think a person who has bested Marvel's version of the Devil wouldn't be able to tell the difference between a real Spiderman and a Skrull impersonator? icon-arcee.gif

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Posted 02 April 2008 - 02:47 PM

QUOTE(MrBlud @ Apr 2 2008, 03:42 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
That depends, do you think a person who has bested Marvel's version of the Devil wouldn't be able to tell the difference between a real Spiderman and a Skrull impersonator? icon-arcee.gif


Yes to both icon-ironhide.gif

There are a couple of characters that are going to have to get a huge reboot
in the wake of Secret Invasion. That's obvious. I just don't think that Spider-
Man is going to be one of them. They've already done a lot to him in the past
year, and I don't think they're going to throw this on top of it.

If they do Skrully-Up Spiderman I know there'll be a lot of happy people, and
I'd assume that the switch would have happened right before his unmasking.
But we'll see. So this is what? 8-Issues. That this will be ending in... what...
November?!
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Posted 02 April 2008 - 05:22 PM

Dude it was so hugging cool. I don't know what to think about all those '70s heroes being in the ship.

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Posted 02 April 2008 - 06:19 PM

anyone really could be a skull. This made me question everyone.

Jarvis, poor jarvis...That was a big DAMNNNNN for me.

I do wonder what the captain marvel thing is. That was just random.

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Posted 02 April 2008 - 08:00 PM

QUOTE(Knight in Rusty Armor @ Apr 2 2008, 07:19 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
anyone really could be a skull. This made me question everyone.

Jarvis, poor jarvis...That was a big DAMNNNNN for me.

I do wonder what the captain marvel thing is. That was just random.


There's a Marvel created Myspace Page for a teenage Skrull living in NY City. According
to it, Capitan Marvel is a skrull, but is causing all sorts of "problems". I think he might
be one of the Skrulls that goes native and ends up doing their own thing, but I'm not
reading his mini-series right now, so I don't know if that could be right or not...

EDIT: Here's the direct quote...

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Okay, this may be more then a minor setback. Khn’Nr actually believes that he is Captain Marvel. So now that he’s been trapped in the Negative Zone (courtesy of that wannabe super heroine Carol Danvers aka Ms. Marvel) we’ve gotta move our plans around a bit. However, as you can see, the Church of Hala project is going along swimmingly. As we continue to do good for you Earthlings, you will fall right in line when it comes time to accept us as your new leaders.

Edited by PiratedTVPro, 02 April 2008 - 08:02 PM.

Yep.

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Posted 02 April 2008 - 08:32 PM

dunno if i should use spoiler tags or no but:

not that i know how.....icon-waspy.gif

Just a thought from one of the pages.....second mutation? Skulls. It would explain somethings.

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Posted 02 April 2008 - 09:00 PM

It WOULD explain why Emma's good now. Just a teensy bit of guilt for Scott once Jean comes back.

I must confess, I didn't see Jarviskrull coming. Damn.

As for Spidey and OMD...who knows. Secret Invasion's going to go on for eight months, and by my calculations with thrice-monthly ASM, 575 will hit RIGHT on month seven. That's the best time to tie it all in, reveal what happened on the wedding day, and POSSIBLY reveal Peter and/or MJ as Skrulls.

But in the current, digitized world, trivial information is accumulating every second, preserved in all its triteness. Never fading, always accessible. Rumors about petty issues, misinterpretations, slander... All this junk data preserved in an unfiltered state, growing at an alarming rate. It will only slow down social progress, reduce the rate of evolution. You seem to think that our plan is one of censorship. What we propose to do is not to control content, but to create context.


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Posted 02 April 2008 - 09:07 PM

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It WOULD explain why Emma's good now. Just a teensy bit of guilt for Scott once Jean comes back.


Or Emma simply evolved as a character and realized she was actually a good person beneath her ice queen demeanor.

Also, Emma and Scott, Jean and Logan. Those are the pairs that work much better.
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?It?s something else for the internet to hate me over.?




That sounded like Battlestar Gallactica. The final five didn't know they are Cylons
Can't Bendis come up with something original icon-primal.gif icon-primal.gif

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Posted 02 April 2008 - 10:19 PM

The funny thing is this has been set up for longer than BSG has been running.

Which means when BSG started playing Bendis must've been oh so pissed.
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Posted 03 April 2008 - 05:33 AM

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QUOTE(PiratedTVPro @ Apr 2 2008, 12:35 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>

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?It?s something else for the internet to hate me over.?




That sounded like Battlestar Gallactica. The final five didn't know they are Cylons
Can't Bendis come up with something original icon-primal.gif icon-primal.gif



Because everything original has already been done by someone else.