Jump to content


Toggle shoutbox Squawkbox Open the Shoutbox in a popup

Please don't post Youtube videos in the chat box. The forums software auto embeds them. 

@  Dekafox : (19 February 2020 - 06:14 PM)

Count Zero?

@  TheMightyMol... : (19 February 2020 - 03:53 PM)

Oh boy, here we go.

@  ▲ndrusi : (19 February 2020 - 02:34 PM)

Or do Japan's cultural values vary depending on exactly who you're trying to shut down?

@  ▲ndrusi : (19 February 2020 - 02:33 PM)

Could it be that, perhaps, these different cultural values might lead to a different approach seeming appropriate?

@  ▲ndrusi : (19 February 2020 - 02:32 PM)

Hm. Back when we were arguing about the Legends comic, I seem to recall being repeatedly told that Japan had different cultural values than the US (and therefore anyone who had a problem with anything at all was wrong to voice that opinion ever).

@  fourteenwings : (19 February 2020 - 07:23 AM)

Plus, as much as I hate to admit it, every single anime character is built to suit the audience's tastes so they buy more merch/do other things that allow $$$ to flow in the production committees direction, so the authenticity is certainly not for representation's sake.

@  fourteenwings : (19 February 2020 - 07:18 AM)

Both those anime air at midnight and are aimed at a very specific audience in a whole other media landscape. Major projects have press releases about almost everything, and there are groups just waiting to pat anybody on the back for doing what they want (GLAAD, HRC, etc)

@  B-Fox : (19 February 2020 - 03:16 AM)

It's funny that a friggin' anime about zombie idols and an anime about a school of anthropomorphic animals can have really positive trans characters WITHOUT a press release about their inclusion in the series prior to the episodes airing or having the creators announcing it on social media and patting themselves on the back for doing a thing.

@  TriBlurr : (18 February 2020 - 10:26 PM)

Vegan meat needs bacon

@  Paladin : (18 February 2020 - 08:43 PM)

vegan meat must taste delicious. they're grass-fed and regularly exercised....

@  wonko the sane? : (18 February 2020 - 06:57 PM)

Vegans are better than kids if you don't talk to them. They'll keep the lawn trimmed anyway.

@  TheMightyMol... : (18 February 2020 - 06:02 PM)

Do you want vegans? Because that's how you get vegans.

@  CORVUS : (18 February 2020 - 04:33 PM)

Hook up your sprinkler system to a canister of healthy organic carrot-juice. The kids won't be able to get off your lawn fast enough.

@  TheMightyMol... : (18 February 2020 - 03:59 PM)

Just use the hose.

@  wonko the sane? : (18 February 2020 - 03:52 PM)

Ask bing. It'll be a FAR more effective answer.

@  TrnsfrmGod : (18 February 2020 - 03:26 PM)

Google, how do I get those durned kids off my lawn?

@  TrnsfrmGod : (18 February 2020 - 03:26 PM)

Please ignore.  Old man here apparently doesn't know the difference between the "Search" field and the "Shoutbox" field.

 

Also doesn't know how to delete from the shoutbox

@  wonko the sane? : (18 February 2020 - 07:33 AM)

Huhn. Penny arcade was right, the division 2 is literally 3 dollars...

@  Steevy Maximus : (17 February 2020 - 11:05 PM)

Oh, Wicked Cool Toys got the Halo toy license. This is a big year for Jazwares

@  Steevy Maximus : (17 February 2020 - 07:02 PM)

iTunes/Apple TV has the complete Cowboy Bebop series for just $5!

@  fourteenwings : (17 February 2020 - 12:41 AM)

The Samsung Galaxy B-TOOM!

@  Paladin : (16 February 2020 - 07:20 PM)

business is booming.

@  wonko the sane? : (16 February 2020 - 06:49 PM)

SAmsung has you covered. Exploding phones.

@  Patch : (16 February 2020 - 05:21 PM)

Modern problems require modern solutions.

@  NotVeryKnightly : (16 February 2020 - 05:21 PM)

Japan seems to have a tradition of murder things where cellphones facilitate the killing instead. Like King's Game and Doubt.

@  TheMightyMol... : (16 February 2020 - 05:17 PM)

Or there's just conveniently no reception, or all of their phones are dead at the same time. Or they're just stupid and forget about them.

@  Patch : (16 February 2020 - 04:41 PM)

Now the slasher villain has to go and knock over the nearest cell tower before butchering horny teenagers.

@  TheMightyMol... : (16 February 2020 - 03:54 PM)

Think of all the horror and mystery movies that involve the bad guys cutting the phone line. Now think about how many people don't even have a land line to cut anymore.

@  Telly : (16 February 2020 - 03:47 PM)

its like that scene in commando. the bad guy has to get to a phone to call the big bad to tell him arnold isnt on the plane. that wouldnt happen today

@  Rycochet : (16 February 2020 - 03:18 PM)

Watching early episodes of the x-files will make you feel super old once you start to notice the techology they use, and the technology they lack.

@  Maximus Ambus : (16 February 2020 - 01:00 PM)

This guy.

@  Roddie Luver : (15 February 2020 - 10:55 PM)

Hey

@  Kalidor : (14 February 2020 - 03:01 PM)

The ones that get me are the "Uploaded 12 years ago" ones

@  TheMightyMol... : (14 February 2020 - 02:49 PM)

Makes you feel old, don't it?

@  Maximus Ambus : (14 February 2020 - 02:38 PM)

While browsing Youtube vids I read these comments: 'The X Files is such an underrated show' and another 'Brent Spiner is a underrated actor' I want to punch something.

@  wonko the sane? : (14 February 2020 - 12:16 PM)

Besides: cupid freaks me out. "Find someone to love, or I'll SHOOT YOU".

@  TheMightyMol... : (14 February 2020 - 12:11 PM)

It's just the day before Cheap Chocolate Day.

@  wonko the sane? : (14 February 2020 - 12:08 PM)

Meh, just more game time.

@  Paladin : (14 February 2020 - 10:55 AM)

Valentine's day. Bummer.

@  Otaku : (14 February 2020 - 10:41 AM)

So is that an occasion for congratulations or condolences, Telly?  I see it as a good thing, but that is a matter of personal preference; easier for me to keep straight who is who when the names don't change. XP

@  Telly : (14 February 2020 - 12:48 AM)

damn. ive been going by "telly" on here for nearly 14 years...

@  TM2-Megatron : (11 February 2020 - 08:06 PM)

I've seen it. It didn't really deliver on the title

@  Paladin : (11 February 2020 - 05:28 PM)

we don't need to see that. we're living it.

@  Maximus Ambus : (11 February 2020 - 03:42 PM)

Anyone seen an old British movie called 'The Earth dies screaming' it's like a Doctor Who serial minus the Doctor.

@  TriBlurr : (09 February 2020 - 11:58 AM)

Needs more zone defense. Call Scrapper

@  TheMightyMol... : (09 February 2020 - 11:29 AM)

MORE POINTS FOR BLITZWING!

@  Donocropolis : (09 February 2020 - 09:33 AM)

MP-7 Thundercracker recovers....he's at the 40....the 20....AND HE SCORES!

@  PlutoniumBoss : (08 February 2020 - 10:37 PM)

Reserved for Masterpiece Kup.

@  Sabrblade : (08 February 2020 - 09:49 PM)

MP-10 Convoy redecoed.

@  TheMightyMol... : (08 February 2020 - 06:56 AM)

MP-9 Rodimus self-destructed.


Photo

Secret Invasion Super-Skrully-Spoilery Topic


This topic has been archived. This means that you cannot reply to this topic.
156 replies to this topic

#1 PiratedTVPro

PiratedTVPro

    Quoth Akitsu, "NEVERMORE!"

  • Retired Staff
  • 14619 posts

Posted 02 April 2008 - 11:35 AM

EDIT: I WANT TO BE COMPLETELY OBVIOUS HERE. AS NEW SECRET INVASION
ISSUES COME OUT WE CAN TALK ABOUT THEM IN HERE. NONE OF THE LEAKS
OR RUMORS ARE TO BE OPENLY DISCUSSED, ONLY THE OFFICIAL RELEASES. SO
IF YOU ARE GOING TO COMMENT ON THEM, PLEASE USE THE SPOILER TAG.


#1 Comes out today. Looks like a couple of the rumor sites had it right and there
really is a lot of crap that goes down in this issue. I for one, didn't think there were
going to be quite so many people come out of that ship, and the invasion fleet, on
their way past SWORD space station, really cool.

Also, the art, I think at least, really takes off once there's a ton of character in panel.
I don't know why, but it seems like that's where Yu really shines...

... and something from Bendis over at Newsarama today...

QUOTE
Not all Skrulls on earth know that they are, in fact, Skrulls.
?It?s something else for the internet to hate me over.?


Yeah, so now we throw that into the mix.

Edited by PiratedTVPro, 30 April 2008 - 01:28 PM.

Yep.

#2 Captain N

Captain N
  • Citizen
  • 373 posts

Posted 02 April 2008 - 12:51 PM

Yu's material is always top-notch, and Secret Invasion is no exception. What a great issue to kick off the series with! And with Yu, chances are good that this book won't be late!

QUOTE
Not all Skrulls on earth know that they are, in fact, Skrulls.
?It?s something else for the internet to hate me over.?


That's what I figured would happen. I expected a New Avenger or two to be Skrulls, but the only way they were able to pass Dr.Strange's test was to have no knowledge that they were Skrulls.

The one thing I'm really surprised at is that there were so many A-list characters with on-goings that *looks* like they've been Skrulls all along. Iron Man? Wolverine? SPIDERMAN??? Wow.....I'm particularly curious about Cap's story. If Cap was replaced......wouldn't the Skrull have reverted back to his true form after he was shot?

So many questions, but four weeks before the next issue.........it looks like Marvel has finally succeeded in convincing me to getting tie-ins this time around.

#3 PiratedTVPro

PiratedTVPro

    Quoth Akitsu, "NEVERMORE!"

  • Retired Staff
  • 14619 posts

Posted 02 April 2008 - 01:09 PM

QUOTE(Captain N @ Apr 2 2008, 01:51 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
The one thing I'm really surprised at is that there were so many A-list characters with on-goings that *looks* like they've been Skrulls all along. Iron Man? Wolverine? SPIDERMAN??? Wow.....I'm particularly curious about Cap's story. If Cap was replaced......wouldn't the Skrull have reverted back to his true form after he was shot?


Here's my thoughts. There's no reason why everyone in the skrull ship
is actually who they say they are. I think a better plot twist will be that
some of them are real heroes who have been taken out and replaced,
and then others will be skrulls, maybe even the majority of them, who
have been put in there just to make the current non-skrull heroes even
more freaked out...
Yep.

#4 Captain N

Captain N
  • Citizen
  • 373 posts

Posted 02 April 2008 - 01:34 PM

QUOTE(PiratedTVPro @ Apr 2 2008, 02:09 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Here's my thoughts. There's no reason why everyone in the skrull ship
is actually who they say they are. I think a better plot twist will be that
some of them are real heroes who have been taken out and replaced,
and then others will be skrulls, maybe even the majority of them, who
have been put in there just to make the current non-skrull heroes even
more freaked out...


Agreed.

I'm going to have to take notes just to keep track of who's a Skrull and who's not. Geeeez.

Also, why is Reed surprised at the Elektra Skrull? Wasn't he there at the Illuminati meeting?

#5 PiratedTVPro

PiratedTVPro

    Quoth Akitsu, "NEVERMORE!"

  • Retired Staff
  • 14619 posts

Posted 02 April 2008 - 02:10 PM

QUOTE(Captain N @ Apr 2 2008, 02:34 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Also, why is Reed surprised at the Elektra Skrull? Wasn't he there at the Illuminati meeting?


I'd like to assume this is happening just after the Illuminati meeting and
they're still talking things out. If not it could be just Reed, Tony and Hank
all thinking out loud and pitching ideas around. I do this a lot with my
friends and coworkers when we're really trying to figure something out...

EDIT: Secret Invasion Saga (the official lead-up to Secret Invasion) ends
with the Illuminati members leaving that meeting, so I'm going to assume
that this happens directly afterwards...

So, who do we know for sure?

Jarvis. Dum Dum. Hank Pym. Right?

Edited by PiratedTVPro, 02 April 2008 - 02:16 PM.

Yep.

#6 Magnus

Magnus

    Board

  • Supporter
  • 7755 posts

Posted 02 April 2008 - 02:25 PM

Oooh, i'm feeling very skrully right now!

TVPro is right, i'm betting the heroes on that ship are mixed in with Skrulls in disguise.

I'm betting Luke Cage in NA is a sleeper Skrull, as are Wonder Man and Black Widow in MA. Sentry's wife is a Skrull too. Mockingbird being back is kind of funny also.

Anyone else hear a "dun dun DUN" music track in their mind whenever they say the word Skrull? It's so cornball 50's, it's hilarious.

#7 MrBlud

MrBlud

    Goes down smooth...

  • Retired Staff
  • 52228 posts

Posted 02 April 2008 - 02:32 PM

Spiderman being a Skrull would be a stroke of genius for Quesada.

You can saddle the Skrull impersonator with all that deal with the devil OMD stuff while the "real" Spiderman was captured before he and MJ were married.

Thus both camps can essentially get what they want without damaging the character.

A real masterstroke, hat's off to Marvel.

card-strongarm.jpg


#8 PiratedTVPro

PiratedTVPro

    Quoth Akitsu, "NEVERMORE!"

  • Retired Staff
  • 14619 posts

Posted 02 April 2008 - 02:36 PM

QUOTE(MrBlud @ Apr 2 2008, 03:32 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Spiderman being a Skrull would be a stroke of genius for Quesada.

Do you really think that Marvel's version of the Devil wouldn't be able to tell
the difference between a real Spiderman and a Skrull impersonator? I mean,
the guy could read parts of Peter's soul...
Yep.

#9 Maxx Blast

Maxx Blast

    Formerly Invincible.

  • Citizen
  • 5318 posts

Posted 02 April 2008 - 02:39 PM

Maybe Mephisto was messing with MJ the entire time?

Also, I'm not a fan of this storyline.

Seems underwhelming in a way.
Team Fortress 2 Weapons Found: 3 Axtinguishers, 2 Ambassadors, 2 Flare Gun, The Dead Ringer, Sandman, Ubersaw, Sandvich, Natascha

#10 MrBlud

MrBlud

    Goes down smooth...

  • Retired Staff
  • 52228 posts

Posted 02 April 2008 - 02:42 PM

QUOTE
Do you really think that Marvel's version of the Devil wouldn't be able to tell
the difference between a real Spiderman and a Skrull impersonator? I mean,
the guy could read parts of Peter's soul...


That depends, do you think a person who has bested Marvel's version of the Devil wouldn't be able to tell the difference between a real Spiderman and a Skrull impersonator? icon-arcee.gif

card-strongarm.jpg


#11 PiratedTVPro

PiratedTVPro

    Quoth Akitsu, "NEVERMORE!"

  • Retired Staff
  • 14619 posts

Posted 02 April 2008 - 02:47 PM

QUOTE(MrBlud @ Apr 2 2008, 03:42 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
That depends, do you think a person who has bested Marvel's version of the Devil wouldn't be able to tell the difference between a real Spiderman and a Skrull impersonator? icon-arcee.gif


Yes to both icon-ironhide.gif

There are a couple of characters that are going to have to get a huge reboot
in the wake of Secret Invasion. That's obvious. I just don't think that Spider-
Man is going to be one of them. They've already done a lot to him in the past
year, and I don't think they're going to throw this on top of it.

If they do Skrully-Up Spiderman I know there'll be a lot of happy people, and
I'd assume that the switch would have happened right before his unmasking.
But we'll see. So this is what? 8-Issues. That this will be ending in... what...
November?!
Yep.

#12 Lizard King

Lizard King

    I burned out my eyes, I cut off my tounge.

  • Citizen
  • 9610 posts

Posted 02 April 2008 - 05:22 PM

Dude it was so hugging cool. I don't know what to think about all those '70s heroes being in the ship.

#13 Darkstream

Darkstream

    The original darkstream since 2003!

  • Supporter
  • 20494 posts

Posted 02 April 2008 - 06:19 PM

anyone really could be a skull. This made me question everyone.

Jarvis, poor jarvis...That was a big DAMNNNNN for me.

I do wonder what the captain marvel thing is. That was just random.

#14 PiratedTVPro

PiratedTVPro

    Quoth Akitsu, "NEVERMORE!"

  • Retired Staff
  • 14619 posts

Posted 02 April 2008 - 08:00 PM

QUOTE(Knight in Rusty Armor @ Apr 2 2008, 07:19 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
anyone really could be a skull. This made me question everyone.

Jarvis, poor jarvis...That was a big DAMNNNNN for me.

I do wonder what the captain marvel thing is. That was just random.


There's a Marvel created Myspace Page for a teenage Skrull living in NY City. According
to it, Capitan Marvel is a skrull, but is causing all sorts of "problems". I think he might
be one of the Skrulls that goes native and ends up doing their own thing, but I'm not
reading his mini-series right now, so I don't know if that could be right or not...

EDIT: Here's the direct quote...

QUOTE
Okay, this may be more then a minor setback. Khn’Nr actually believes that he is Captain Marvel. So now that he’s been trapped in the Negative Zone (courtesy of that wannabe super heroine Carol Danvers aka Ms. Marvel) we’ve gotta move our plans around a bit. However, as you can see, the Church of Hala project is going along swimmingly. As we continue to do good for you Earthlings, you will fall right in line when it comes time to accept us as your new leaders.

Edited by PiratedTVPro, 02 April 2008 - 08:02 PM.

Yep.

#15 Darkstream

Darkstream

    The original darkstream since 2003!

  • Supporter
  • 20494 posts

Posted 02 April 2008 - 08:32 PM

dunno if i should use spoiler tags or no but:

not that i know how.....icon-waspy.gif

Just a thought from one of the pages.....second mutation? Skulls. It would explain somethings.

#16 Internet Jesus

Internet Jesus

    And this is the way the world ends.

  • Citizen
  • 22355 posts

Posted 02 April 2008 - 09:00 PM

It WOULD explain why Emma's good now. Just a teensy bit of guilt for Scott once Jean comes back.

I must confess, I didn't see Jarviskrull coming. Damn.

As for Spidey and OMD...who knows. Secret Invasion's going to go on for eight months, and by my calculations with thrice-monthly ASM, 575 will hit RIGHT on month seven. That's the best time to tie it all in, reveal what happened on the wedding day, and POSSIBLY reveal Peter and/or MJ as Skrulls.

But in the current, digitized world, trivial information is accumulating every second, preserved in all its triteness. Never fading, always accessible. Rumors about petty issues, misinterpretations, slander... All this junk data preserved in an unfiltered state, growing at an alarming rate. It will only slow down social progress, reduce the rate of evolution. You seem to think that our plan is one of censorship. What we propose to do is not to control content, but to create context.


#17 Maxx Blast

Maxx Blast

    Formerly Invincible.

  • Citizen
  • 5318 posts

Posted 02 April 2008 - 09:07 PM

QUOTE(Internet Jesus @ Apr 2 2008, 09:00 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
It WOULD explain why Emma's good now. Just a teensy bit of guilt for Scott once Jean comes back.


Or Emma simply evolved as a character and realized she was actually a good person beneath her ice queen demeanor.

Also, Emma and Scott, Jean and Logan. Those are the pairs that work much better.
Team Fortress 2 Weapons Found: 3 Axtinguishers, 2 Ambassadors, 2 Flare Gun, The Dead Ringer, Sandman, Ubersaw, Sandvich, Natascha

#18 (Deactivated) combiner1

(Deactivated) combiner1
  • Guests

Posted 02 April 2008 - 09:37 PM

QUOTE(PiratedTVPro @ Apr 2 2008, 12:35 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>

QUOTE
[b]Not all Skrulls on earth know that they are, in fact, Skrulls.
?It?s something else for the internet to hate me over.?




That sounded like Battlestar Gallactica. The final five didn't know they are Cylons
Can't Bendis come up with something original icon-primal.gif icon-primal.gif

#19 Maxx Blast

Maxx Blast

    Formerly Invincible.

  • Citizen
  • 5318 posts

Posted 02 April 2008 - 10:19 PM

The funny thing is this has been set up for longer than BSG has been running.

Which means when BSG started playing Bendis must've been oh so pissed.
Team Fortress 2 Weapons Found: 3 Axtinguishers, 2 Ambassadors, 2 Flare Gun, The Dead Ringer, Sandman, Ubersaw, Sandvich, Natascha

#20 Darkstream

Darkstream

    The original darkstream since 2003!

  • Supporter
  • 20494 posts

Posted 03 April 2008 - 05:33 AM

QUOTE(combiner1 @ Apr 2 2008, 10:37 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
QUOTE(PiratedTVPro @ Apr 2 2008, 12:35 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>

QUOTE
[b]Not all Skrulls on earth know that they are, in fact, Skrulls.
?It?s something else for the internet to hate me over.?




That sounded like Battlestar Gallactica. The final five didn't know they are Cylons
Can't Bendis come up with something original icon-primal.gif icon-primal.gif



Because everything original has already been done by someone else.