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@  -LittleAutob... : (25 May 2020 - 03:39 PM)

I'll agree with you on that.

@  -LittleAutob... : (25 May 2020 - 03:39 PM)

*Figured -_-

@  -LittleAutob... : (25 May 2020 - 03:39 PM)

I fugured

@  Steevy Maximus : (25 May 2020 - 01:37 PM)

I'm actually sad Cyberverse won't get another season. 2 and 3 (of what I've seen) have REALLY nailed it in being fun little actions shows, like the Sunbow series.

@  Rycochet : (25 May 2020 - 01:00 PM)

Yes.

@  Maximus Ambus : (25 May 2020 - 12:52 PM)

I'm waiting for Animated season 4. Am I insane?

@  wonko the sane? : (25 May 2020 - 11:22 AM)

I'm waiting for the next season to show up on netflix.

@  Sabrblade : (25 May 2020 - 10:59 AM)

Many of us have already watched the rest of the Cyberverse episodes since the whole third season aired in the UK last September.

@  -LittleAutob... : (25 May 2020 - 10:18 AM)

*9th

@  -LittleAutob... : (25 May 2020 - 10:17 AM)

I just saw the 8th episode... omg

@  Bass X0 : (25 May 2020 - 01:28 AM)

Already seen it online.

@  -LittleAutob... : (24 May 2020 - 09:42 PM)

Who's excited for tomorrow? The only thing that makes Monday worth it is the Cyberverse episodes .-.

@  wonko the sane? : (24 May 2020 - 12:30 PM)

Welcome. I just came into that trick myself recently, so happy to share.

@  Nevermore : (24 May 2020 - 12:05 PM)

Thanks, wonko the sane? for the tip with the cloning. That helped a lot!

@  -LittleAutob... : (24 May 2020 - 12:02 PM)

Heheh.... yes... I don't think a sniper would be very good at making a vaccine... 0.0

@  Nevermore : (24 May 2020 - 11:48 AM)

All right! Cloning my old HHD to an SSD and then swapping out the drive was successful, it would appear. Finally.

@  Bass X0 : (24 May 2020 - 11:30 AM)

Scientist Perceptor is. Sniper Perceptor less so.

@  -LittleAutob... : (24 May 2020 - 10:51 AM)

Perceptor would be more responsible.

@  -LittleAutob... : (24 May 2020 - 10:48 AM)

Oof x~x

@  TheMightyMol... : (24 May 2020 - 10:45 AM)

He'd cure the virus, but he'd probably commit at least two crimes against nature and weaponize a third in the process.

@  -LittleAutob... : (24 May 2020 - 09:39 AM)

'Horrible consequences' would most likely happen with Brainstorm...

@  -LittleAutob... : (24 May 2020 - 08:16 AM)

Totally. And Percy's not even human. XD

@  TheMightyMol... : (24 May 2020 - 06:50 AM)

Can't do much worse than our current government, I say go for it.

@  Sabrblade : (23 May 2020 - 10:13 PM)

Little do we realize that the Perceptor in question is the Mini-Con combiner. :p

@  -LittleAutob... : (23 May 2020 - 10:11 PM)

He would!!!

@  -LittleAutob... : (23 May 2020 - 10:11 PM)

Horrible consequences? I... Doubt that would happen.

@  wonko the sane? : (23 May 2020 - 09:55 PM)

Even if he would come up with the answer by tomorrow.

@  wonko the sane? : (23 May 2020 - 09:54 PM)

I'd rather not deal with the horrible but unintended consequences of that.

@  -LittleAutob... : (23 May 2020 - 09:52 PM)

Lets let Perceptor make a vaccine for COVID-19. Who agrees with me :)

@  -LittleAutob... : (23 May 2020 - 08:43 PM)

I'll take your word for it. =D

@  TM2-Megatron : (23 May 2020 - 08:42 PM)

Although the TV edits of Robocop do contain some hilarity

@  TM2-Megatron : (23 May 2020 - 08:41 PM)

I can't think of any instance where sanitizing a film is a good thing.

@  -LittleAutob... : (23 May 2020 - 06:42 PM)

.... and thats a good thing? :doh

@  Steevy Maximus : (23 May 2020 - 06:39 PM)

I'm watching Predator on Starz! That means it has all the language and gore uncensored!

@  Sabrblade : (23 May 2020 - 04:23 PM)

*grabs popcorn*

@  -LittleAutob... : (23 May 2020 - 12:49 PM)

*watching everyone argue* O^O

@  fourteenwings : (23 May 2020 - 10:22 AM)

By that logic we might as well just get rid of the Shoutbox wholesale! I'd rather have like 3 or 4 things stuck for a week or so than one person dominating the whole thing (no offense Nevermore).

@  PlutoniumBoss : (23 May 2020 - 03:30 AM)

I would argue that "full of something one doesn't read" and "devoid of reading material" are functionally identical at the end-user level. :D

@  NotVeryKnightly : (22 May 2020 - 07:58 PM)

If it emptied, it would become empty.

@  PlutoniumBoss : (22 May 2020 - 07:53 PM)

It would be the same effect as if the shoutbox simply emptied once or twice a week.

@  NotVeryKnightly : (22 May 2020 - 07:27 PM)

I don't see how having walls of the same guy on top whenever I go to any page on this site is "refreshing".

@  PlutoniumBoss : (22 May 2020 - 06:10 PM)

I don't know, I find the occasional flushing of the box to be refreshing.

@  Telly : (22 May 2020 - 04:20 PM)

but its gets annoying seeing a wall of text from him that takes up most of the shoutbox

@  PlutoniumBoss : (22 May 2020 - 03:53 PM)

Eh, that's just Nevermore.

@  fourteenwings : (22 May 2020 - 12:11 AM)

@Nevermore: Good rule of thumb is if you feel like you need not just multiple statements but also multiple shouts to make a point, best just make a thread.

@  NotVeryKnightly : (21 May 2020 - 05:36 PM)

Dude, do you just, not know when to stop?

@  Nevermore : (21 May 2020 - 03:35 PM)

Instead of "I have only ten hours to get all my stuff from place A to place B", it's more like "I temporarily stored 90% of my stuff in easily accessible place C in my spare time, so now I have ten hours to get the remaining 10% of my stuff over to the new place before permanently saying goodbye to the old place".

@  NotVeryKnightly : (21 May 2020 - 03:33 PM)

At these point you two are just repeating what you already said.

@  Nevermore : (21 May 2020 - 03:32 PM)

Again using my "moving apartments" analogy. If you can store the stuff you don't immediately need for everyday life somewhere else, it reduces the critical time of permanently switching your primary base of residence over to the new place because there's less stuff to move when the time comes.

@  Nevermore : (21 May 2020 - 03:30 PM)

Well, my main point is that it will speed up the system migration so I have A) less system downtime because there are fewer files to transfer before the new system can be up and running and B) it reduces the risk of something going wrong during the system migration.


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#1 ChessPieceFace

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Posted 10 March 2008 - 11:10 PM

So I know a lot of you have both Guitar Hero III and Rock Band for the Xbox 360, and I could use a little advice. I'll be the proud owner of the wireless GH3 bundle and the game-only Rock Band in a week or so. Now I want to get a second guitar, and I'm thinking of going with another GH3 guitar so I can do two-player on both games (or three on RB, counting vocals), since I understand the RB guitars don't work with GH3.

My question is, am I losing any important features by using GH3 guitars on Rock Band? Is there anything about the RB guitars that makes them work better with RB than the GH3 guitars do? I know they've got extra buttons high up on the neck, but I think I heard they're not actually necessary. I've also heard they're more prone to breakage, and they're not wireless, and they don't work with both games... just want to make sure there's nothing I'm missing out on by going this route.

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Posted 10 March 2008 - 11:17 PM

I love the Rock Band guitar. LOVE. So much better than the GH3 controller.
The extra buttons aren't needed, but make things easier, and the regular
buttons feel so much better under finger that it's just not funny. Get your
hands on one to see what you think...
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Posted 10 March 2008 - 11:27 PM

I've played both (Rock Band at a friend's house, GH3 in a store), but they were a couple months apart... so a scientific comparison wasn't really possible.

I do much prefer the look of the RB controllers. They look just like a tiny clone of my real guitar, which is fun. icon-hotrod.gif

They won't work in GH3, though, right? That really does mean they've got to be a LOT better in my book, to overcome that downside...

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Posted 10 March 2008 - 11:41 PM

You won't need a Rock Band guitar to work for GH3 because GH3 isn't worth buying.
Mind you I've been a Guitar Hero WHORE since the first day of the original but I really do NOT like GH3. I can't see any reason to pull that disc out ever again.
Yes, I'm bitter.
Get a Rock Band guitar simply because you'll get a lot more play out of that game in the end.

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Posted 10 March 2008 - 11:41 PM

I massively prefer the Rock Band one.

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Posted 10 March 2008 - 11:45 PM

Hmm... looks like the standalone Rock Band guitars are wireless... that's one "con" I can take off the list.

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Posted 11 March 2008 - 12:23 PM

I've never used the Rock Band guitar, but the fret buttons at the bottom of the neck can be used during a solo and you don't have to strum. I'm not sure if that is 100% correct, but that is what the tutorial seemed to say.

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Posted 11 March 2008 - 01:18 PM

QUOTE(Cesium Salami @ Mar 11 2008, 01:23 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I've never used the Rock Band guitar, but the fret buttons at the bottom of the neck can be used during a solo and you don't have to strum. I'm not sure if that is 100% correct, but that is what the tutorial seemed to say.



Yep that's correct. I agree with the majority here. The RB guitar is years ahead of the GH model.

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Posted 11 March 2008 - 02:14 PM

I haven't used a Guitar Hero guitar voluntarily since I got my Rock Band guitar. Scale's better, button spacing is better, strum bar is better (though subjective--I know some people who prefer the Guitar Hero one), and it's got more nifty features on it.

The only reason to pick up a Guitar Hero controller over a Rock Band one is if you intend to play a lot of Guitar Hero multiplayer with people who don't have their own Guitar Hero controllers. For me, that's probably never happening.

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Posted 11 March 2008 - 02:31 PM

Thanks for all the feedback! Gotta say, I was honestly expecting a lot of either "eh, they're about the same" or "the RB guitar breaks too much" responses. Guess it's good that I asked, even if it messes with my plan a bit. icon-hotrod.gif

Regarding GH3, I was just trying to get the best standalone guitar currently available, and figured GH3 itself was a "bonus." I mean, if I'm going to have guitar controllers, I may as well be able to use them with more than one game, right? But you're all probably correct--Rock Band's where it's at, so I'd rather have at least one of the best controllers for that game, even if it limits me to one-player on GH games.

So, new plan: I'll find a way to trade in the GH3 game itself for GH2 when it arrives (I already liked 2's tracklist better, and had heard many similar complaints that 2 was better in general, I just wanted the new guitar), use the GH3 guitar with GH2 and Rock Band for a few weeks, and get the wireless standalone Rock Band guitar when it comes out in April--which will hopefully have fewer QA problems than the bundled release. Then the GH3 guitar moves to occasional second- or third-player use.

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Posted 11 March 2008 - 09:41 PM

Just get a Rock Band one. GHIII sucks compared to Rock Band. And the RB one has better features, period.

I haven't opened the Guitar Hero case since I got Rock Band.

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Posted 12 March 2008 - 02:30 PM

I get it, I get it, thank you. icon-hotrod.gif

Actually, thinking about it more, what I might do is just send the whole GHIII bundle right back to Amazon when it gets here, which'd net me enough credit for a wireless Rock Band guitar come April along with a $40 profit. Then I just won't mess around with the Guitar Hero series at all. I don't think I'll miss too much. And this was all from one of those "freebie" sites (which we're not supposed to discuss publicly here, so I won't), so it's not like I'm out any cash.

Only minor problem there is that Rock Band will be karaoke-only for a few weeks, but hey, I waited this long, right?

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Posted 19 March 2008 - 06:19 PM

Hehhehe I love when geeks geek out..


Get the RB one... it's got the added features for a reason and it feels alot sturdier than the Guitar Hero Guitars.

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Posted 26 March 2008 - 12:29 AM

Fiiiiinally got my Guitar Hero III bundle in the mail... and now it's going right back to Amazon, thanks to you people. icon-arcee.gif

I played the demos of RB and GHIII at Best Buy a week or so ago, and I think you're all right--the RB guitar does just feel better. Easier to switch between frets, larger, heavier, better-looking, and with those smaller high-neck buttons that might make it easier to convince my wife to play. And since it took so long for GHIII to arrive... heck, the standalone guitars are out in just two weeks, I can wait. Wish I'd done more research before placing the orders, though, so I wouldn't have to deal with shipping stuff back. Ah well.

Anyway, I'm doing the Solo Vocal Tour in Rock Band for now, and that'll hold me. Especially since I haven't even heard of some of these higher-tier songs.... I rock a mean Creep, though.

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Posted 26 March 2008 - 08:59 AM

It's the PlaySkool buttons on the Guitar Hero controller that makes all
the difference to me. Having less space between then, a better touch
feel and that little lip that gives you a slight grip just makes the Rock
Band controller the perfect next iteration and oh so much better.
Yep.

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Posted 25 June 2008 - 11:31 AM

So here's an update, for anyone in the same boat as I was.

Like I said I would, I got a RB wireless guitar when it came out, so I've been playing with it for a couple of months. I needed a second guitar before mid-July, as we're planning a Rock Band party, so last week I decided to go ahead and (re)purchase GHIII from Amazon. I figured it'd be nice to have the choice, and it was only $50 for the bundle ($10 cheaper than just the RB guitar alone!), and I had a bunch of Amazon credit anyway.

So here's what I've found in a couple of months of the Strat vs. a few days of the Les Paul: They both have pretty strong advantages and disadvantages, and I honestly don't know if one's really overall better than the other.

The Strat has great buttons. It looks and feels like a real guitar, something that's a great advantage to me, since I play real guitars. It's immediately comfortable to pick up and play, from the frets to the whammy bar. The extra lip on the strummer is nice as well. The extra neck buttons are great for the big rock endings.

BUT... the strummer feels consistently imprecise. I can never get all the notes in fast sections, whether I strum down, or alternate up and down strokes. They just don't all register. That makes it really difficult to do well on Hard, and I can't imagine Expert. Also, overdrive can on occasion be a little slow to respond, though I don't have as much trouble with that as others have reported. The effects switch sometimes gets in my way (as it does on my real Fender guitar), and isn't really necessary.

The Les Paul is great for fast sections in songs. Songs like Go With The Flow really sucked on the Strat on Hard, but are easily conquerable with the Les Paul. Every note registers, the strummer snaps nicely, and the mild clicking (which I was expecting to be noisy from reviews) is really just like the click of a pick against steel strings. Overdrive triggers with just a flick of the wrist.

BUT... it looks ridiculous, the buttons are awful, the neck is terribly thick, and it doesn't have the handy neck buttons. My fingers are constantly getting lost on the buttons and the spaces between them. I miss the raised frets of the Strat. The whammy bar is weirdly straight, and difficult to use.

So... yeah. Pretty much what I'd love is a guitar with the Strat's look, neck and whammy bar, and the Les Paul's strummer and overdrive system. Unfortunately, it doesn't exist yet. The GH:WT guitar looks to have the same crappy buttons and whammy as the Les Paul, and we don't know yet what RB2 will bring. I think it's the one most likely to improve. For now... I guess I'm glad I have the option, both are decent controllers in their own ways, and I just wish it were a little easier to swap instruments in-game for different songs on the world tour.

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Posted 25 June 2008 - 08:39 PM

That's pretty much how I feel about the two guitars. I love playing the Les Paul but my left hand gets so cramped because of the thick neck and it's hard to play for extended periods of time. I've been using the wireless Strat since I got it and it's been working great but the strummer just annoys the hell out of me due to its muddiness.

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Posted 25 June 2008 - 09:09 PM

The rockband guitar is horrible. The extra buttons are useless, its uncomfortable to hold, and looks like a cheap kids toy. The GH3 is wireless, and the buttons feel alot better.

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Posted 25 June 2008 - 09:20 PM

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The rockband guitar is horrible. The extra buttons are useless, its uncomfortable to hold, and looks like a cheap kids toy. The GH3 is wireless, and the buttons feel alot better.

The extra buttons can be quite useful, if you know how to use them.

I can't comment on your discomfort, as we have different hands. I will say that the RB guitar being shaped like a real guitar neck makes it infinitely more comfortable for me to hold. The thick, overly rounded Les Paul hurts my hand after a while.

Uh... dunno how you can argue that the Les Paul actually looks less like a toy than the Strat. I mean... wow, that's just a new one on me.

Finally, the Strat now comes in a wireless model, which is what I have.

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Posted 26 June 2008 - 01:08 AM

QUOTE(ChessPieceFace @ Jun 25 2008, 10:20 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
QUOTE(King Xexex @ Jun 25 2008, 07:09 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
The rockband guitar is horrible. The extra buttons are useless, its uncomfortable to hold, and looks like a cheap kids toy. The GH3 is wireless, and the buttons feel alot better.

The extra buttons can be quite useful, if you know how to use them.

I can't comment on your discomfort, as we have different hands. I will say that the RB guitar being shaped like a real guitar neck makes it infinitely more comfortable for me to hold. The thick, overly rounded Les Paul hurts my hand after a while.

Uh... dunno how you can argue that the Les Paul actually looks less like a toy than the Strat. I mean... wow, that's just a new one on me.

Finally, the Strat now comes in a wireless model, which is what I have.


They both look like toys, but the strat looks like a poorly made toy.