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@  TM2-Megatron : (16 December 2018 - 04:39 PM)

They may have had it earlier than that; Risa uses weather control tech to maintain its resort-style climate, and it was shown to already be established in the late 22nd century

@  wonko the sane? : (16 December 2018 - 03:13 PM)

By next gen they had weather control on earth, and were even in the process of upgrading the geologic stability network. So yeah: habitat maintenance on the next level.

@  TheMightyMol... : (16 December 2018 - 02:51 PM)

Something something invert polarity something technobabble something.

@  TM2-Megatron : (16 December 2018 - 02:38 PM)

I imagine World War III managed to decimate enough of the industrial economies that they inadvertently managed to exceed their carbon reduction targets from the Paris Accords, and then by the time Earth got back on its feet after the development of warp drive and first contact with the Vulcans, electricity was able to be generated cleanly and much more efficiently

@  The Doctor Who : (16 December 2018 - 01:48 PM)

I mean, they have futuristic weather control satellites and everything, I would imagine that global warming is a thing of the past in Trek.

@  unluckiness : (16 December 2018 - 09:39 AM)

How's that unrealistic? Not even the ocean wants it.

@  SHIELD Agent 47 : (16 December 2018 - 01:35 AM)

The most unrealistic thing (from a U.S. perspective) is that Florida isn't underwater!

@  SHIELD Agent 47 : (16 December 2018 - 01:35 AM)

I was reminded today of a funny thing about Star Trek:

@  Pennpenn : (15 December 2018 - 09:58 PM)

Whatever they can sell it for?

@  Steevy Maximus : (15 December 2018 - 09:48 PM)

Geez, WTF do those China sellers on eBay need my phone number for?

@  Pennpenn : (15 December 2018 - 09:44 PM)

Does the PotP voyager Starscream's chest stick out so far in combiner torso mode? It's kinda weird how much Elita Infinite's back seems so empty up top but very... protruding lower down.

@  Pennpenn : (15 December 2018 - 01:26 AM)

Trying to fit Elita One's combiner head back into her torso is a pain in the arse (and not just because her torso becomes her arse in combiner torso mode)

@  RichardT1977 : (14 December 2018 - 10:04 PM)

Power corrupts and corruption empowers.

@  Echowarrior : (14 December 2018 - 07:10 PM)

Welcome to real life...at least until enough people get fed up and they break out the guillotines.

@  Pennpenn : (14 December 2018 - 06:58 PM)

It's almost as if the people with the most money have funneled money into making the systems of government and law serve their purposes in retaining their wealth, no matter how harmful, counterintuitive, or just flat out evil they have to be. Huh.

@  Rycochet : (14 December 2018 - 02:49 PM)

https://www.motherjones.com/media/2015/10/mother-jones-vandersloot-melaleuca-lawsuit/

@  Rycochet : (14 December 2018 - 02:45 PM)

Some states have laws against that, but they're in a tiny minority. There are plenty of cases where rich people have gone after journalists and their employers for accurate reporting, lost, but still left their targets saddled with hundreds of thousands ofdollars in legal fees and no hope of recovering anyof the money because a partisan judge has decreed that while they're innocent, they're not innocent enough.

@  Rycochet : (14 December 2018 - 02:43 PM)

The american system is as bad, there are plenty of cases of billionaires or corporations filing libel suits purely to kill reporting or activisim against their activities. SLAPP suits. Strategic Lawsuits against public participation.

@  SHIELD Agent 47 : (14 December 2018 - 12:48 PM)

e.g. British libel laws place the burden of proof on the accuser, which is how we wind up with Emirati billionaires suing Western journalists in British courts

@  SHIELD Agent 47 : (14 December 2018 - 12:46 PM)

Never visited the UK in my life, but reading about British laws in the news gives me the vibe that British culture inherently protects the wealthy and established.

@  Anonymous X : (14 December 2018 - 12:39 PM)

Sounds a lot better than labour law in the UK. It's bare minimum standards here, you don't get any employment rights as such in the first two years of employment (and the employer can arbitrarily reset the clock). Unions are limited to a few public sector professions as well; in the private sector, there basically aren't any unions.

@  Nevermore : (13 December 2018 - 07:25 PM)

Bonus points if your company has a works council. The employer is required by law to hear the works council prior to giving you your termination. The works council cannot prevent your termination if the employer really insists on going through with it, but if the employer failed to hear the works council, didn't wait for the works council to respond, or failed to tell the works council *all* the relevant details, the termination is legally invalid due to a technicality.

@  Nevermore : (13 December 2018 - 07:23 PM)

The employer has to tell you the reason for your termination if you explicitly ask for it, and if you can prove the reason is factually incorrect, the employer may lose the case.

@  Nevermore : (13 December 2018 - 07:21 PM)

For all its flaws, I really like a lot about our German labor law. Here, if you're under a permanent contract and have been continually employed for over six months, employers can only fire you for reasons that fall into one of three categories defined by law, and the burden of proof is on the employer's side in a potential court case.

@  Paladin : (13 December 2018 - 05:38 PM)

in brightest day or blackest night?

@  Bass X0 : (13 December 2018 - 05:25 PM)

Finally we get a Greenlight toy.

@  Tm_Silverclaw : (13 December 2018 - 04:58 PM)

See.. In America they would just fire you for having the wrong color shoes on or some BS reason.

@  Nevermore : (13 December 2018 - 07:13 AM)

And hey, in addition to the clocked extra hours, I earned an additional 50% overtime bonus.

@  Nevermore : (13 December 2018 - 07:12 AM)

This past Saturday, in full expectance of a strike this week, I worked a full extra shift. They assigned me and some of the other volunteers to a totally pointless task, while some ladies were seriously sweeping the floor. When asked how long I was planning to stay, I smiled and said "a full shift!"

@  Nevermore : (13 December 2018 - 07:10 AM)

"You were asking for volunteers, right? I'm staying." - "But we have no more work for you!" - "I don't see how that's *my* problem..."

@  Nevermore : (13 December 2018 - 07:10 AM)

It's possible to use that to troll the employer a little, though... Once they allow voluntary overtime, they cannot backtrack from that. So once you notice you're rapidly running out of work, you just decide to do overtime out of spite.

@  Nevermore : (13 December 2018 - 07:08 AM)

Now if there's *no* strike... people eventually run out of work.

@  Nevermore : (13 December 2018 - 07:07 AM)

Amazon is prepared for strikes... they just hire way too many people for the Christmas season. If there's a strike, they still have enough (albeit inexperienced) workers.

@  Steevy Maximus : (12 December 2018 - 07:49 PM)

Not one bit :p

@  SHIELD Agent 47 : (12 December 2018 - 06:46 PM)

@Steevy Did you read TM2's post? "Amazon.de".

@  Paladin : (12 December 2018 - 06:37 PM)

just wait until the European economy collapses up its Brexit-shaped asshole.

@  TM2-Megatron : (12 December 2018 - 06:22 PM)

Probably not a ton of people, no. Although I'd say I order from one European Amazon site once every month or two, myself. Usually UK, but sometimes Germany as well. France and Italy a couple times, too. There are some good Blu-Ray releases that are exclusive to Europe

@  Steevy Maximus : (12 December 2018 - 06:00 PM)

I'm not sure a European strike is going to impact North American customers.

@  TM2-Megatron : (12 December 2018 - 04:13 PM)

Well, somebody must've been working 'cuz I had an order in with Amazon.de that got shipped out the other day

@  Echowarrior : (12 December 2018 - 01:29 PM)

Amazon.

@  Benbot : (12 December 2018 - 01:01 PM)

AOL?

@  Nevermore : (11 December 2018 - 08:22 PM)

Also, strike has been extended. So no working for 50 minutes. Would have been fun, though.

@  Nevermore : (11 December 2018 - 08:21 PM)

I said numerous times already that I work at that big American corporation that begins with "A".

@  Waspinator : (11 December 2018 - 07:21 PM)

Preferably the equivalent of Lara Croft or Indiana Jones a thousand years from now

@  Tm_Silverclaw : (11 December 2018 - 02:26 PM)

The turkeys... The answer is always the Turkeys.

@  NotVeryKnightly : (11 December 2018 - 02:05 PM)

Who would be the heroes in this situation?

@  Waspinator : (11 December 2018 - 02:03 PM)

When I die, I want my body to be part of a puzzle solution. Like, have my skeleton pointing at the clue the heroes are supposed to find.

@  Rodimus Supreme : (11 December 2018 - 12:38 PM)

Can you say where you work at? Or is that private?

@  Nevermore : (10 December 2018 - 02:49 PM)

It's completely pointless... whch is exactly the point. Hundreds of workers showing up 50 minutes before their shift is over.

@  Nevermore : (10 December 2018 - 02:49 PM)

We're on strike until midnight tomorrow (Tuesday->Wednesday). Which means I will clock in at midnight and work until my shift is over... 50 minutes later.


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#1 xZAOx

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Posted 13 February 2008 - 06:22 PM

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As of today, the Loose Convention sets are now SOLD OUT!
The Boxed Convention sets are still available...but going fast.


So, there ya go, from botcon.com.

So the regular sets are supposedly "going fast". While I'm not calling them liars, my MC that I got yesterday had an add for the '05 set saying "don't miss out!"...hehe.

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Posted 13 February 2008 - 06:27 PM

Oh, crap. My payment hasn't been collected yet. I guess that means I'm Bagged-less.
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Posted 13 February 2008 - 06:39 PM

Wow, impressive!

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Posted 13 February 2008 - 06:41 PM

That was fast.

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Posted 13 February 2008 - 06:49 PM

QUOTE(Powered Convoy @ Feb 13 2008, 03:41 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
That was fast.

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Indeed it was. I'm not sure how to make a fair comparison, since there were (ultimately) more loose sets last year, but that's certainly less than half the time it took to sell twice as many loose sets last year (All I know for sure is, although the boxed sets sold out in about a month, they still had loose sets available for a time after that, available only to those who had already gotten a boxed set.).

(FYI for those who don't remember, there were 400 loose sets last year, and either 1050 or 1100 boxed sets, depending on what source is used... although my guess is that the higher number is more reliable.)

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Posted 13 February 2008 - 07:13 PM

Why would they make only half as many loose sets as last year?

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Posted 13 February 2008 - 07:16 PM

QUOTE(Magnus @ Feb 13 2008, 04:13 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Why would they make only half as many loose sets as last year?

I can't totally answer that, but I CAN note that they only promised 200 loose sets last year, too, but were able to increase the order ("at the last minute," we're told) when the first day or two of registrations was so intense.

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Posted 13 February 2008 - 07:16 PM

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Why would they make only half as many loose sets as last year?


I'd assume because they reckon on demand being down.

Likely because (no offense) these exclusives don't have the "must haviness" of the Seekers and the Con itself being held the same week as finals.

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Posted 13 February 2008 - 07:17 PM

QUOTE(Magnus @ Feb 13 2008, 07:13 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Why would they make only half as many loose sets as last year?



Let's see:

1. No movie to hypercharge public interest
2. No seekers to hypercharge collector interest
3. See #1 and 2
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Posted 13 February 2008 - 07:21 PM

How many people here who bought the loose sets in the past turned around and sold them? Or are buying them this year and plan to sell them? Just Curious. Is that what happens to most of these loose sets, or do people like to hold onto them?

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Posted 13 February 2008 - 07:24 PM

Oddly enough, from a collector standpoint, the bagged sets are infinitely rarer then the boxsets.

Even though they practically always sell cheaper.

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Posted 13 February 2008 - 07:28 PM

Well, If I had (or have) gotten one, I was going to let each of my sons pick a figure, and sell the remaining ones.
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#13 G.B.Blackrock

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Posted 13 February 2008 - 08:01 PM

QUOTE(Bleargh001 @ Feb 13 2008, 04:21 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
How many people here who bought the loose sets in the past turned around and sold them? Or are buying them this year and plan to sell them? Just Curious. Is that what happens to most of these loose sets, or do people like to hold onto them?

Well, it's kind of the reverse for me. I buy the loose set so that I can "turn around and sell" the boxed set. I only care about the toys, and that's a cheap way (comparatively, at least) for me to get a set.

Edited by G.B.Blackrock, 13 February 2008 - 08:03 PM.


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Posted 13 February 2008 - 08:08 PM

QUOTE(Bleargh001 @ Feb 14 2008, 12:21 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
How many people here who bought the loose sets in the past turned around and sold them? Or are buying them this year and plan to sell them? Just Curious. Is that what happens to most of these loose sets, or do people like to hold onto them?


Well, I bought last years boxed and loose set, one to display, one to keep untouched just like all of my other Classics. I have no plans to sell them, I just buy 2 of each of what I really like so if one breaks, I have a replacement.

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Posted 13 February 2008 - 08:32 PM

I'm a completionist with Classics, and I like to have two of each so I kept my loose set and display them from last year, and have the boxed set in storage. I planned on doing the same thing this year as well.

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Posted 13 February 2008 - 08:59 PM

Son of a bitch.....
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Posted 13 February 2008 - 09:04 PM

Yeah, I don't think it's fair to use this as a reason to go "HAW HAW!" at the convention, since this set lacks:

1) The "must have" aspect of last year's set to have a truly complete Classics collection.
2) The draw of the movie and the Hasbro tour no doubt being a big increase on overall attendance.
3) The scheduling of the convention is less accessible for people.

It's just common sense in business that they have to be careful on the whole supply/demand thing.

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Posted 13 February 2008 - 10:24 PM

Selling out is always great news.

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Posted 13 February 2008 - 10:29 PM

QUOTE(Bleargh001 @ Feb 13 2008, 06:21 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
How many people here who bought the loose sets in the past turned around and sold them? Or are buying them this year and plan to sell them? Just Curious. Is that what happens to most of these loose sets, or do people like to hold onto them?


I'll bite the bullet here - I bought a loose set last year just to sell. Mainly, to help offset my $400 plane ticket. And I ended up getting stuck with more of the hotel room than was planned (the risk that comes when you're the one who reserves the room).

But, for what it's worth, I sold them significantly less than eBay prices. Actually, Rework here on the boards is the one who ended up buying my seekers. I sold Bugbite to a con-goer (who I then had to track back down to get her profile card), and I traded Dreadwind to Gen1Fan for some money and toys.

This year I'm doing the same - I bought a loose set to sell. And I'll probably do like last year as well (if I can) - sell it for more than I paid, but less than eBay as well. I'd much rather sell it at the con to someone than have to fool with eBay, regardless of the "profit margin" being much higher on eBay.

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Posted 14 February 2008 - 06:21 AM

QUOTE(xZAOx @ Feb 13 2008, 06:22 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
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As of today, the Loose Convention sets are now SOLD OUT!
The Boxed Convention sets are still available...but going fast.


reaction: OMG!

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So the regular sets are supposedly "going fast". While I'm not calling them liars, my MC that I got yesterday had an add for the '05 set saying "don't miss out!"...hehe.

reaction after a few seconds: wait a second... this is just for loose sets. ... hrm, I guess it's not really telling of how fast boxed sets are going for, since all we know for sure is that at least 200 of those sold as well.