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@  Paladin : (26 May 2020 - 08:10 PM)

it's too hugging hot today.

@  -LittleAutob... : (25 May 2020 - 03:39 PM)

I'll agree with you on that.

@  -LittleAutob... : (25 May 2020 - 03:39 PM)

*Figured -_-

@  -LittleAutob... : (25 May 2020 - 03:39 PM)

I fugured

@  Steevy Maximus : (25 May 2020 - 01:37 PM)

I'm actually sad Cyberverse won't get another season. 2 and 3 (of what I've seen) have REALLY nailed it in being fun little actions shows, like the Sunbow series.

@  Rycochet : (25 May 2020 - 01:00 PM)

Yes.

@  Maximus Ambus : (25 May 2020 - 12:52 PM)

I'm waiting for Animated season 4. Am I insane?

@  wonko the sane? : (25 May 2020 - 11:22 AM)

I'm waiting for the next season to show up on netflix.

@  Sabrblade : (25 May 2020 - 10:59 AM)

Many of us have already watched the rest of the Cyberverse episodes since the whole third season aired in the UK last September.

@  -LittleAutob... : (25 May 2020 - 10:18 AM)

*9th

@  -LittleAutob... : (25 May 2020 - 10:17 AM)

I just saw the 8th episode... omg

@  Bass X0 : (25 May 2020 - 01:28 AM)

Already seen it online.

@  -LittleAutob... : (24 May 2020 - 09:42 PM)

Who's excited for tomorrow? The only thing that makes Monday worth it is the Cyberverse episodes .-.

@  wonko the sane? : (24 May 2020 - 12:30 PM)

Welcome. I just came into that trick myself recently, so happy to share.

@  Nevermore : (24 May 2020 - 12:05 PM)

Thanks, wonko the sane? for the tip with the cloning. That helped a lot!

@  -LittleAutob... : (24 May 2020 - 12:02 PM)

Heheh.... yes... I don't think a sniper would be very good at making a vaccine... 0.0

@  Nevermore : (24 May 2020 - 11:48 AM)

All right! Cloning my old HHD to an SSD and then swapping out the drive was successful, it would appear. Finally.

@  Bass X0 : (24 May 2020 - 11:30 AM)

Scientist Perceptor is. Sniper Perceptor less so.

@  -LittleAutob... : (24 May 2020 - 10:51 AM)

Perceptor would be more responsible.

@  -LittleAutob... : (24 May 2020 - 10:48 AM)

Oof x~x

@  TheMightyMol... : (24 May 2020 - 10:45 AM)

He'd cure the virus, but he'd probably commit at least two crimes against nature and weaponize a third in the process.

@  -LittleAutob... : (24 May 2020 - 09:39 AM)

'Horrible consequences' would most likely happen with Brainstorm...

@  -LittleAutob... : (24 May 2020 - 08:16 AM)

Totally. And Percy's not even human. XD

@  TheMightyMol... : (24 May 2020 - 06:50 AM)

Can't do much worse than our current government, I say go for it.

@  Sabrblade : (23 May 2020 - 10:13 PM)

Little do we realize that the Perceptor in question is the Mini-Con combiner. :p

@  -LittleAutob... : (23 May 2020 - 10:11 PM)

He would!!!

@  -LittleAutob... : (23 May 2020 - 10:11 PM)

Horrible consequences? I... Doubt that would happen.

@  wonko the sane? : (23 May 2020 - 09:55 PM)

Even if he would come up with the answer by tomorrow.

@  wonko the sane? : (23 May 2020 - 09:54 PM)

I'd rather not deal with the horrible but unintended consequences of that.

@  -LittleAutob... : (23 May 2020 - 09:52 PM)

Lets let Perceptor make a vaccine for COVID-19. Who agrees with me :)

@  -LittleAutob... : (23 May 2020 - 08:43 PM)

I'll take your word for it. =D

@  TM2-Megatron : (23 May 2020 - 08:42 PM)

Although the TV edits of Robocop do contain some hilarity

@  TM2-Megatron : (23 May 2020 - 08:41 PM)

I can't think of any instance where sanitizing a film is a good thing.

@  -LittleAutob... : (23 May 2020 - 06:42 PM)

.... and thats a good thing? :doh

@  Steevy Maximus : (23 May 2020 - 06:39 PM)

I'm watching Predator on Starz! That means it has all the language and gore uncensored!

@  Sabrblade : (23 May 2020 - 04:23 PM)

*grabs popcorn*

@  -LittleAutob... : (23 May 2020 - 12:49 PM)

*watching everyone argue* O^O

@  fourteenwings : (23 May 2020 - 10:22 AM)

By that logic we might as well just get rid of the Shoutbox wholesale! I'd rather have like 3 or 4 things stuck for a week or so than one person dominating the whole thing (no offense Nevermore).

@  PlutoniumBoss : (23 May 2020 - 03:30 AM)

I would argue that "full of something one doesn't read" and "devoid of reading material" are functionally identical at the end-user level. :D

@  NotVeryKnightly : (22 May 2020 - 07:58 PM)

If it emptied, it would become empty.

@  PlutoniumBoss : (22 May 2020 - 07:53 PM)

It would be the same effect as if the shoutbox simply emptied once or twice a week.

@  NotVeryKnightly : (22 May 2020 - 07:27 PM)

I don't see how having walls of the same guy on top whenever I go to any page on this site is "refreshing".

@  PlutoniumBoss : (22 May 2020 - 06:10 PM)

I don't know, I find the occasional flushing of the box to be refreshing.

@  Telly : (22 May 2020 - 04:20 PM)

but its gets annoying seeing a wall of text from him that takes up most of the shoutbox

@  PlutoniumBoss : (22 May 2020 - 03:53 PM)

Eh, that's just Nevermore.

@  fourteenwings : (22 May 2020 - 12:11 AM)

@Nevermore: Good rule of thumb is if you feel like you need not just multiple statements but also multiple shouts to make a point, best just make a thread.

@  NotVeryKnightly : (21 May 2020 - 05:36 PM)

Dude, do you just, not know when to stop?

@  Nevermore : (21 May 2020 - 03:35 PM)

Instead of "I have only ten hours to get all my stuff from place A to place B", it's more like "I temporarily stored 90% of my stuff in easily accessible place C in my spare time, so now I have ten hours to get the remaining 10% of my stuff over to the new place before permanently saying goodbye to the old place".

@  NotVeryKnightly : (21 May 2020 - 03:33 PM)

At these point you two are just repeating what you already said.

@  Nevermore : (21 May 2020 - 03:32 PM)

Again using my "moving apartments" analogy. If you can store the stuff you don't immediately need for everyday life somewhere else, it reduces the critical time of permanently switching your primary base of residence over to the new place because there's less stuff to move when the time comes.


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#461 Axaday

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Posted 19 June 2008 - 02:15 PM

It isn't going to be overnight. They haven't even changed the price yet; They've just indicated that they will. Crude prices won't go down until China actually starts importing less crude. But it seems likely that raising their gasoline price will do that trick.

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Posted 19 June 2008 - 02:26 PM

QUOTE(Axaday @ Jun 19 2008, 03:15 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
It isn't going to be overnight. They haven't even changed the price yet; They've just indicated that they will. Crude prices won't go down until China actually starts importing less crude. But it seems likely that raising their gasoline price will do that trick.


Yea I know, I'm just mad icon-wheelie.gif . I was not expecting to wake up in the morning and see $4.09...especially when I now have half a tank.

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Posted 19 June 2008 - 03:03 PM

back up, $4.15 today.

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Posted 19 June 2008 - 03:06 PM

The gas station I usually go to fell from $4.15 to $4.13 to $4.10 over about the past week.

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Posted 19 June 2008 - 06:09 PM

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The gas station I usually go to fell from $4.15 to $4.13 to $4.10 over about the past week.

yeah. and i like how they report on it.


"gas prices drop for third day in a row".


and yet, are well above where they were LAST THURSDAY.

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Posted 19 June 2008 - 10:07 PM

QUOTE(Axaday @ Jun 19 2008, 03:15 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
It isn't going to be overnight. They haven't even changed the price yet; They've just indicated that they will. Crude prices won't go down until China actually starts importing less crude. But it seems likely that raising their gasoline price will do that trick.

Too bad they don't go down as fast or as much as they go up...

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Posted 19 June 2008 - 10:57 PM

That's how it is....if they say prices are going down, it will take a week or more to see any results at all. When they say that gas is going up, you can go to the pumps either the same or next day and they'll be increased in price.

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Posted 20 June 2008 - 03:26 AM

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That's how it is....if they say prices are going down, it will take a week or more to see any results at all. When they say that gas is going up, you can go to the pumps either the same or next day and they'll be increased in price.


This one will take MONTHS at least.

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Posted 20 June 2008 - 07:49 AM

Yeah, but, correct me if I'm wrong, if the rumor was the opposite way saying that China was going to lower their prices by subsidizing it more in the future, wouldn't the price jump up instantly in anticipation? It is kind of annoying how that works.

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Posted 20 June 2008 - 07:52 AM

gas prices are starting to hurt gas stations.


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CHARLESTON, W.Va. - When gas station manager Roger Randolph realized it was costing him money each time someone filled up with $4-a-gallon gas, he hung a sign on his pumps: "No more credit cards."

He may be the first in West Virginia to ban plastic, but gas station operators nationwide are reporting similar woes as higher prices translate into higher credit card fees the managers must pay, squeezing profits at the pump.

"The more they buy, the more we lose," said Randolph, who manages Mr. Ed's Chevron in St. Albans. "Gas prices go up, and our profits go down."

His complaints target the so-called interchange fee ? a percentage of the sale price paid to credit card companies on every transaction. The percentage is fixed ? usually at just under 2 percent ? but the dollar amount of the fee rises with the price of the goods or services.

As gas tops $4 a gallon, that pushes fees toward 10 cents a gallon. Now stations, which typically mark up gasoline by 11 to 12 cents a gallon, are seeing profits shrink or even reverse.

In a good month, Randolph's small operation would yield a $60 profit on gasoline sales. But that's been buried as soaring prices forced the station to pay about $500 a month in interchange fees.

"At these prices, people aren't making any money," said Jeff Lenard, spokesman for the Alexandria, Va.-based National Association of Convenience Stores. "It's brutal."

Lenard's group reports convenience stores paid roughly $7.6 billion in credit card fees last year, while making $3.4 billion in profits.

The way interchange fees are structured has long annoyed retailers, prompting calls for relief.

Legislation pending in the U.S. House and Senate would allow merchants to bargain collectively with major credit and debit card companies.

The National Retail Federation says gas prices point to the unfairness of the system: Gas stations are paying more in interchange fees because the price of gas has gone up, while the cost of processing credit or debit cards remains the same.

"We have always contended that it doesn't cost Visa and MasterCard any more to process a $1,000 transaction than it does a $100 transaction," said J. Craig Shearman, vice president of government affairs at the retail federation.

The credit card companies say fees are just part of the cost of doing business.

MasterCard has capped interchange fees for gas purchases of $50 or more, said company spokeswoman Sharon Gamsin.

Accepting MasterCard also gives gas stations "increased sales, greater security and convenience, lower labor costs, and speed for their customers at the pump," Gamsin said in an e-mail to The Associated Press.

Visa argues that the fees are offset "by the tangible benefits to stations and their customers, such as the ability to pay at the pump," the company said in a statement to the AP.

Absent congressional action, gas stations are seeking other relief, including discounts to customers who pay in cash.

Shipley Energy, which owns 23 Tom's Convenience stores in Pennsylvania, has partnered with a new credit card company, Revolution, which charges smaller interchange fees.

Bob Astor, wholesale fuels business manager for Shipley, said those savings get passed on to customers as cheaper prices at the pump. Customers who pay with the card get an automatic 10 cent discount.

Gas stations in South Carolina, Georgia, Maryland, New Jersey and Arizona are among those offering cash customers a discount, with savings from four cents to 10 cents per gallon.

The Connecticut General Assembly recently passed legislation to make it easier for stations to offer discounts for cash purchases, bidding to cut consumer prices by 10 to 12 cents on average.

Discounts for cash customers may not, however, be the stations' salvation.

The National Association of Convenience Stores reports about two thirds of transactions at gas stations were with credit or debit cards in 2007, a figure expected to rise this year.

"The problem with cash discounts is, if people don't have the cash or don't want to spend the cash, you've inconvenienced them," Lenard said.

The experiment at Mr. Ed's Chevron, though, has paid off so far.

The station has been in business for 44 years and the ban on plastic hasn't scared many people off, Randolph said.

"We've got generations of customers who come here," he said. "Most of them have accepted it."

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Posted 20 June 2008 - 09:20 AM

If the percentage is fixed, these guys are idiots for not accepting plastic. They'll lose more customers that will hurt them more than the gain they'll make on cash sales, especially since the cash sales are generally prepay now and people hate to bother with that.

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Yeah, but, correct me if I'm wrong, if the rumor was the opposite way saying that China was going to lower their prices by subsidizing it more in the future, wouldn't the price jump up instantly in anticipation? It is kind of annoying how that works.

Yes, that's how it would work, and yes it is annoying. Commodity good though - they pay for next week's purchase with this week's sales rather than paying for the gas you're pumping in now with the money they make from you now. So they're always going to be very cautious about the future.

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Posted 20 June 2008 - 09:33 AM

I was pleasantly surprised yesterday when I saw the price of diesel didn't go up the usual 25 cents for every 10 cents regular goes up. It actually stayed the same! Still ridiculously higher than regular, though.
It's time to bring the crunch!

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Posted 20 June 2008 - 10:07 AM

So wait... Chinese gas prices are going to skyrocket, so ours can go down? This sounds like that Twilight Zone episode, where the devil says he'll give a couple a million dollars if they push a button that means "someone they don't know" will die.

Also, while gas didn't seem to go down around here, I noticed on Wednesday and Thursday that it had held steady at $4.59 or so for the past week, instead of going up 10-20 cents like it has been. I guess that's something.

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Posted 20 June 2008 - 10:11 AM

QUOTE(ChessPieceFace @ Jun 20 2008, 11:07 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
So wait... Chinese gas prices are going to skyrocket, so ours can go down? This sounds like that Twilight Zone episode, where the devil says he'll give a couple a million dollars if they push a button that means "someone they don't know" will die.

Also, while gas didn't seem to go down around here, I noticed on Wednesday and Thursday that it had held steady at $4.59 or so for the past week, instead of going up 10-20 cents like it has been. I guess that's something.


The theory is that if Chinese prices go up 10%, there will be less demand and use from them which will cause oil to go down. Not sure if I agree with that, but we'll see.

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Posted 20 June 2008 - 11:04 AM

QUOTE(Wheelimus @ Jun 20 2008, 11:11 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
QUOTE(ChessPieceFace @ Jun 20 2008, 11:07 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
So wait... Chinese gas prices are going to skyrocket, so ours can go down? This sounds like that Twilight Zone episode, where the devil says he'll give a couple a million dollars if they push a button that means "someone they don't know" will die.

Also, while gas didn't seem to go down around here, I noticed on Wednesday and Thursday that it had held steady at $4.59 or so for the past week, instead of going up 10-20 cents like it has been. I guess that's something.


The theory is that if Chinese prices go up 10%, there will be less demand and use from them which will cause oil to go down. Not sure if I agree with that, but we'll see.

well, oil is already back up over $3 today.

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Posted 20 June 2008 - 02:45 PM

QUOTE(The Predaking @ Jun 20 2008, 07:49 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Yeah, but, correct me if I'm wrong, if the rumor was the opposite way saying that China was going to lower their prices by subsidizing it more in the future, wouldn't the price jump up instantly in anticipation? It is kind of annoying how that works.


The thing you've got to understand is that prices don't really go up for the reasons that reporters print. Reporters see the price go up and then they go fishing for something to connect it to, but it is mostly all pretend fluff. They are more interested in turning in their article in time for print than they are in communicating facts.


QUOTE(ChessPieceFace @ Jun 20 2008, 10:07 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
So wait... Chinese gas prices are going to skyrocket, so ours can go down? This sounds like that Twilight Zone episode, where the devil says he'll give a couple a million dollars if they push a button that means "someone they don't know" will die.


One of the big contributing factors to China's skyrocketing oil demand is that their government fixes the price artificially low with subsidies. Today they announced that they are raising the fixed price to $3.83 per gallon. They aren't doing it because they love us. They're doing it to relieve a big problem they've been having with shortages. At the old price people wanted so much more gasoline than they could provide that lots of places had trouble getting it. Now that they've raised the price to about what ours is, they are hoping that the demand and supply will be equal at the new price. If that's what happens, the price of crude isn't going to keep going up because of them.

Now, this is just China and China isn't the only one with a huge demand growth. But it should help. It doesn't mean gas prices are going back to $1. It might not even mean that they'll go down. But it should at least greatly dampen the growth.

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Posted 20 June 2008 - 03:32 PM

Yep. Telling the Chinese to drive less is going to be about as effective as telling Americans to drive less. Our prices have gone up and on the aggregate it's had a very negligible effect on our demand and consumption. I don't expect China will be different, so I don't think prices will go down as a result of this.

It should be pretty effective at dampening growth at least a bit there however, which should slow or at least temporarily pause the crazy increases. Especially since this will send a message to the market that things are actively being done to try and get the prices to not keep rising so high - that might dampen some of the speculation on the market.

However, a number of political issues (particularly in the middle east) as well as the effects in other areas of China's economy as a result of this move, may cause other issues as well, but that'll be harder to know for sure until after they do it. The immediate likely possibility is a bit of an economic slowdown in China, which might mean a bit of an inflation and a bit of an increase in price on things we trade with them to get. So we may not see the price rise on oil now, we might see it on other goods in six months.

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Posted 26 June 2008 - 03:07 PM

oil is up over $5 today on reports of "lower than expected US Inventories", which is the exact contradiction of yesterdays drop in oil prices.

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Posted 26 June 2008 - 03:16 PM

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I guess I need to fill up before they raise the price again then.

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Posted 29 June 2008 - 11:21 AM

Paid about $US6.20/gal last week when I filled up. I should start looking at cars which aren't ten years old and only getting 24mpg on a good day. Prius covered in solar panels is starting to sound good.