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[blukis]

ByrerPrime, there is plenty of food for thought in your list above! I'll pick and choose...

Wheeljack/Downshift: It's a sort of a neat nod to fans when they make toys that resemble classic characters, but I thought it was a little odd when they had the same appearance and name, but not personality. To me, the identity of a character is his(/her) personality, and where they fit with the other characters. I had a hard time thinking that the Wheeljack of G1 could ever become what Wheeljack/Downshift was in U3. They're different characters to me.

I'll throw another one in the mix. G1 Soundwave / Movie Frenzy. The movie authors have said that Frenzy was originally to be named Soundwave, but his character became less and less like Soundwave so they just made him someone else. I agree, and I'm glad they changed it. Soundwave was nothing like that. Soundwave is data driven, loyal to Megatron, and ruthless/deadly when the time is right. You know who had those traits in the movie? Blackout. Honestly, I'm not one to normally make connections between TF series, but I think of Blackout as the movie version of Soundwave.

But most of the time, I err on the side of making them be different characters. (G1 Jetfire ≠ U3 Jetfire. G1 Optimus ≠ RiD Optimus.) Same names, but different beings.

Edited by blukis, 06 November 2007 - 07:20 PM.

[Shadewing]

G1 Jetfire and Skyfire Are the same person, just diffrent names for copyright issues.

BW Grimlock is G1 Grimlock

Uni Inferno is suppsed to be BW Inferno, by the bio. But It seems that most everyone seems to consider him to be G1 Red Alert, taking up the name of his best firend for some reason.

BM Mirage is Skywarp. Seriously. Almost exact same bio.

G1 Prowl vs. U3 Prowl vs. RiD Prowl vs. BW (Magnaboss) Prowl vs. BW Prowl (owl)

G1 Prowl may be MB Prowl, with the others also being G1 characters that have survived, but other then names there isnt any real support for this. TM2 Prowl is probably G1 Prowl, or at least believes he is. RiD Prowl is probably ment to be G1 Prowl in the same way RiD Prime is. Weither they are the G1 versions, depends on how you handle RiD continuity.

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I LOVE this sort of topic/disussion. Personally, I try to find ways to interconnect every incarnation of the Transformers. I write off RID (as crap (stories so I don't bother trying to incorporate that into continuity!)

I'm still working out how to interconnect Movie continuity with the rest of G1/BeastWars/machines/UnicronTrilogy... lore. Actually the movie can be explained quite easily. It's the events of the prequel novels and comics that screw a few too many things up... As long as you see Movie Megatron as a different Megatron than G1 and this Optimus as after his death and resurrection in events told in G1 continuity. Just figure that the Autobots eventually win and Optimus commands all record of Humans and Earth erased from the datatracks of every Cybertronian, including his own. With the desire to not interfere with Human civilization, that seems like something Optimus would do, right!

To understand another important factor in fitting together the *time*lines of transformers, one must consider all the traveling Optimus and Megatron do, going back and forth in their super advanced spaceships traveling at 99% of the speed of light. This creates all sort of *time dilation phenomenon* which actually allow all continuities to work together just fine! Talk to Dave VanDolamen. He's a physics guy. He can explain it all to ya!

Oh, do I piss my bros off when I start concocting crazy schemes in an effort to interconnect the generations of Transformers.

[Heather Prime]

oh yeah i love RiD prow is nice his police car

[Bass X0]

There really needs to be more connection between characters than identical names and sometimes similar alternate modes.

Most of those listed in the first post, I'd say no way to. G1 Scourge and Cybertron Scourge are completely different - different personality, different origins, different appearance. Whereas eighties cartoon (not movie) Scourge, Marvel comics Scourge and Dreamwave Scourge ARE the same character although in different universes which do not crossover with each other (the movie does though with the U.K. Marvel comics but the cartoon does not).

Cybertron Scourge has no such similarities.

They're just different beings with the same name. Thats all.

[Lazy Garou]

I don?t know, some supposed "alternate universe" versions of characters existing in the newer releases of transformers just don?t seem to actually be the same character, someone said that trasformers names were not code names but rather common names like joe and mike, and we now that there are lots of joes and mikes and the point is unless someone says in canon material yes they are the same guy or "they seem to have the same energy signature" this will just be speculation.