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@  Pennpenn : (22 January 2017 - 07:20 AM)

He's samurai themed? Anyway, I meant "samurai themed" in the Bludgeon's Pretender shell sense.

@  NotVeryKnightly : (22 January 2017 - 07:15 AM)

Armada Starscream?

@  Pennpenn : (22 January 2017 - 07:13 AM)

Actually I'm vaguely surprized samurai themed Seekers haven't somehow congealed within the TF brand at some point.

@  Telly : (21 January 2017 - 08:26 PM)

if they dont seek pizza im out

@  Bass X0 : (21 January 2017 - 02:40 PM)

Samurai Seeker Jets!

@  Rycochet : (21 January 2017 - 12:42 PM)

The Big Cheese is the villain, who's lower than low. It's a rotten shame he lives in Little Tokyo.

@  PlutoniumBoss : (21 January 2017 - 12:38 PM)

For the kaiju/restaurant theme, better be the Samurai Pizza Cats instead.

@  Rycochet : (21 January 2017 - 12:28 PM)

I prefer Mighty Morphin' Meower Rangers.

@  PlutoniumBoss : (21 January 2017 - 12:07 PM)

Okay, that got too weird, let's just use the Megazordenny's instead.

@  ▲ndrusi : (21 January 2017 - 09:20 AM)

no, no, not all hope for the characters, all hope for the viewer understanding what the hell is going on.

@  Tm_Silverclaw : (21 January 2017 - 07:33 AM)

Isn't that like.. every second spent watching Eva? *hides!*

@  Telly : (21 January 2017 - 02:26 AM)

usually about halfway through, when all hope seems lost

@  Copper Bezel : (21 January 2017 - 02:01 AM)

I understand using Eva to fight monsters, but where does Bob come into it?

@  PlutoniumBoss : (21 January 2017 - 01:29 AM)

Of course we'll need Bob EVAs to fight all these critters...

@  PlutoniumBoss : (21 January 2017 - 01:21 AM)

Or Otachipotle.

@  RichardT1977 : (20 January 2017 - 11:03 PM)

Sorry Waspinator, but Sean Bean already reserved that one.

@  Pennpenn : (20 January 2017 - 09:51 PM)

Isn't the answer "Pepperoni and Cheese"?

@  Waspinator : (20 January 2017 - 09:12 PM)

"Oh no, not again."

@  The Doctor Who : (20 January 2017 - 08:54 PM)

What do you want on your Tombstone?

@  PlutoniumBoss : (20 January 2017 - 08:52 PM)

I summon Mothrally's to champion the cause of a new/old line of discussion!

@  Pennpenn : (20 January 2017 - 07:24 PM)

Fair enough, sorry. Although, I think as more people get upset you're going to see it leaking out more.

@  TheMightyMol... : (20 January 2017 - 06:25 PM)

Can the politics stay in P&R? I don't really need an emetic that badly.

@  Pennpenn : (20 January 2017 - 05:37 PM)

All of Trump's base are stone cold morons, so there's that. Then again, a lot of people would argue that America has nevr been "great", or even when it is there's plenty to bring down it's score.

@  Vexwing : (20 January 2017 - 04:18 PM)

A lot of Trump's base would probably claim it stopped being great 8 years ago.

@  Locoman : (20 January 2017 - 03:44 PM)

And today is National Cheese Lover's Day, apparently, so perhaps we should make America grate again while we're at it

@  Bass X0 : (20 January 2017 - 03:43 PM)

How long has it not been great for?

@  Nevermore : (20 January 2017 - 02:34 PM)

Finally, America is great again.

@  wonko the sane? : (20 January 2017 - 12:03 PM)

Me too!

@  Arazyr : (20 January 2017 - 10:08 AM)

My daughters and I have been looking forward to that!

@  Benbot : (20 January 2017 - 09:44 AM)

Nevermind that. Today is a day to celebrate, because season 2 of Voltron is up on Netflix!

@  ShadowMan024 : (19 January 2017 - 06:51 PM)

Past 8 years? Try "past 241."

@  Xellos : (19 January 2017 - 06:44 PM)

So basically the same as the past 8 years. Guess that works too.

@  TheMightyMol... : (19 January 2017 - 06:25 PM)

We as a nation either drank too much or not enough. It's difficult to say, really.

@  PlutoniumBoss : (19 January 2017 - 06:10 PM)

Isn't America being crazy drunk how we got in this situation in the first place?

@  BlackMax : (19 January 2017 - 04:18 PM)

I plan on being very American about every single injustice our new leader perpetrates ("American" of course meaning "annoyed and loud").

@  TheMightyMol... : (19 January 2017 - 02:38 PM)

I plan to just stick my fingers in my ears and pretend I don't hear anything.

@  Bass X0 : (19 January 2017 - 02:26 PM)

I recommend America just get crazy drunk for the next four years. It's the only way you're going to get through them.

@  Paladin : (19 January 2017 - 08:34 AM)

everyone go vote for Guilermo Del Toro. We need a Hellboy 3 now more than ever. https://www.bleeding...nt-hellboy-iii/

@  BlackMax : (18 January 2017 - 10:49 PM)

Shrapnel is a Lucanus Elaphus.

@  ShadowMan024 : (18 January 2017 - 08:42 PM)

Nah, Taco Bell is more like Hedorah.

@  TriBlurr : (18 January 2017 - 08:28 PM)

Taco Mutos

@  ShadowMan024 : (18 January 2017 - 08:27 PM)

YAHMMMAAHOAAHOAAAUGH!

@  Locoman : (18 January 2017 - 08:22 PM)

HE LUNCH MENU COVER UP A BASIC INSECURITY

@  ShadowMan024 : (18 January 2017 - 08:22 PM)

IT'S THE MEATS FROM A PAIL

@  ShadowMan024 : (18 January 2017 - 08:21 PM)

HE JOCK IT MADE OF STEEL

@  Patchouli Kn... : (18 January 2017 - 08:20 PM)

What about Jet Jaguarby's?

@  ShadowMan024 : (18 January 2017 - 08:15 PM)

WENDERA IS REALLY NEAT, WENDERA SAYS WHERE'S THE BEEF, WE ALL EAT AT WENDERAAAAA'S!

@  Echowarrior : (18 January 2017 - 08:15 PM)

No love for Wendera, friend to all children?

@  BlackMax : (18 January 2017 - 07:57 PM)

In the Japanese release, McDonaldzilla wins.

@  TriBlurr : (18 January 2017 - 06:34 PM)

Burger King Kong is better anyway


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"The Best Defence..." First four pages!


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#1 Drivaaar

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Posted 16 May 2007 - 07:54 PM

Hey everyone!

Okay, here's the first four pages of my next comic project, "The Best Defence...".

Set a few years after "Courage Under Fire", "Crisis Of Conscience", and "Out Of Time", this comic is a little more stand-alone.

Many thanks to SolFire for letting me use his fancharacter, and to -VP- for the use of Sentinus (who's arm features non-prominently in panel 4. icon-fire.gif). Also, mad props to Drivaaar for the use of Quartz. Sterling dude, I'm sure none of this would be possible without him.

This time around, everything on these 4 pages is by me. Pencils, inks, colours, lock stock and barrel. Expect the final 4 pages of part one to be posted in the coming months, as and when I finish 'em.

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TO BE CONTINUED...

Comments and critiques more than welcome!

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Posted 16 May 2007 - 08:07 PM

....I'M SO EXCITED!!!!.....Although Magnus was really quick to blame Sol.
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Posted 16 May 2007 - 08:11 PM

Magnus must come from the Nightbeat school of blame aportion.

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Posted 16 May 2007 - 08:29 PM

Excuse me while I jump around with glee.

*jump, jump, jump*

Did I do it? Or didn't I? Will I meet Sentinus? Kup? Rodimus?
Stay tuned....I know I will!

EXPLOSIVE THORN!!!!! BOOM!

Ummm, really nice job Kris. I can't believe how well you translated Sol's bio into the story. What with the whole Ultra Magnus sending him on assignment. Someone's getting a big ole chrimmus gift this year!

On a strickly art side: Everything is very well done. Colors and atmosphere are great! They emphasize but not detract from the story.
The only, only, thing that catches my eye is the green spotlights; and that's only in the last 2 big panels. Seems like they're missing light sources. I mean, they fade and all, but the actual light source seems to be missing. Maybe add in some yellow around the base?

Love you, love your hair, hope you win!
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Edited by SolFire, 16 May 2007 - 10:53 PM.


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Posted 16 May 2007 - 09:44 PM

Am I the only one to notice Solfire's MTMTA bio on that screen on page 3?
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Man, I am so excited to see how this turns out. I fel some really big twist coming. In 4 pages you set up a lot for the rest of the story.Very well done. The art is fantastic as always.

I can't wait to see a fully drawn Sentinus coming from you. icon-hotrod.gif

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Posted 16 May 2007 - 09:46 PM

QUOTE(-VP- @ May 16 2007, 09:44 PM) View Post

Am I the only one to notice Solfire's MTMTA bio on that screen on page 3?



HOLEE jive!!!
Big...BIG ole crimmus pressie!

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Posted 16 May 2007 - 09:57 PM

This is just so cool. I love the use of the profile pic on the one screen. Your work looks great like always and the story is awesome.

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Posted 16 May 2007 - 10:13 PM

I love Kup. Seriously. In just a few panels, you create a father figure for Rodimus, one who can still call him "lad" even though his name ends in Prime now and one whose advice is firm and serious yet gently delivered. I may not know the first thing about how to critique the art side of things (about which I'll just say WOW PRETTY), but I like to think that I know good characterization when I see it, and I see it here. icon-hotrod.gif

Oh, and "KUH-DUNG!" is the best sound effect in a long time. icon-fire.gif


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Posted 16 May 2007 - 10:45 PM

Sweet I have always had a soft spot for your work Drivaaar! I can't wait for more!

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Posted 16 May 2007 - 10:49 PM

You spin some mean words.

Rock on.

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Posted 16 May 2007 - 11:18 PM

Have I mentioned how much I love your work? It reminds me so much of the old Marvel stuff.

You've come a long way for doing this all yerself, my friend.
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Posted 16 May 2007 - 11:25 PM

Lovely written work so far, Drivaar!

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Posted 17 May 2007 - 12:08 AM

QUOTE(MiLkShAkE @ May 16 2007, 09:07 PM) View Post

....I'M SO EXCITED!!!!.....Although Magnus was really quick to blame Sol.

it's because he doesn't want to deal with it now.


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Posted 17 May 2007 - 01:13 AM

Damn yo! I love the story already! You always seem to have a way to keep me gripped and wanting for more!

#15 Drivaaar

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Posted 17 May 2007 - 02:01 AM

Cheers guys! You're enthusiasm keeps me wanting to make 'em! What makes it better is that you all seem to appreciate the story and the characters as well as the effort I put in to the art, and that means more to me than anything... comments like Newsy's just utterly psyche me, especially when I think of stuff like how Sentinus and Kup interact later, Quartz and Magnus having a domestic... Just makes me want to finish it quicker!

Oh and Winston, I hope I do Sentinus justice - he will be BURYING that axe in someone. I guarantee it.

Sol, glad you like SolFire's treatment - I try to stick fairly close to the bio's (hence the homage, heheh! Also I can't beleive no-one spotted Nightbeat reading the Allspark Forums in Crisis...) so that means a lot.

If anyone's interested, you know I hear the characters voices in my head? Well, the canon guys you already know (especially Kup, SO distinctive) but if you're wondering who the fan characters are going to sound like...

Quartz sounds like me. Cos he is me, pretty much.

SolFire... well, think Jeff Bridges in Tron.... "Because man!!"

Sentinus... I haven't gotten to any dialogue of his yet (his day comes in part two), but right now, I'm hearing a Kris Kristofferson-esque vibe...

EEeeeeeeeeeeee! I'm all psyched now. I've been so creatively bummed out lately, you've all got me jazzed up again!



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Posted 17 May 2007 - 02:15 AM

Really sweet work, dude. icon-hotrod.gif

Love the voice choices. icon-fire.gif

Gotta say you're being an inspiration to me, in fiddling with my own comic ideas. I haven't had any come to fruition yet, but you always get the juices a-churnin'. =)

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Posted 17 May 2007 - 02:38 AM

After taking a second glance I see some crits I need to point out. I didn't realize that Magnus and Red Alert had Sol on a med lab until I saw the last two panels. The way I can see to solve this problem is to add a narration bubble saying "AND SO" or "LATER ON". I feel the white fragments on on the group shot looks to blurry. I feel it's best to not bother with the blur or not go as blurry.

Also this is more a matter of opinion since you come off very stylize in your approach. I'm not happy with Magnus's proportions... they keep bouncing from panel to panel. I see a few suffer from the same problem, but more on Magnus then on anyone else.

For example.. his chest is so thick on page 2 only to see it does not stick out as much on page 3. The shoulder kibble looks smaller on his close up along with a thinner neck. Lastly he looks to have a giraffe neck in the second to last panel of page 3.

I suffer from these same problems which is why I can identify with them. Other then that awesome job.

Oh I forgot.. the colors on Rodimus are EXTREMLY OFF!!!
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Posted 17 May 2007 - 03:26 AM

QUOTE(Drivaaar @ May 17 2007, 02:01 AM) View Post

Quartz and Magnus having a domestic

Who ever could have seen that coming? I mean, they always get along so fantastically well... icon-arcee.gif

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Oh and Winston, I hope I do Sentinus justice - he will be BURYING that axe in someone. I guarantee it.

WOO! And hey - maybe seeing that will get me off my butt and get me to finish the Sentinus piece I've been working on...

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Also I can't beleive no-one spotted Nightbeat reading the Allspark Forums in Crisis

What? Where?

*goes and looks* Oh SWEET. icon-fire.gif

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SolFire... well, think Jeff Bridges in Tron.... "Because man!!"

AHAHAHAHA! icon-fire.gif That's just great.


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#19 Drivaaar

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Posted 17 May 2007 - 03:45 AM

QUOTE(Headless Lieger @ May 17 2007, 08:38 AM) View Post

After taking a second glance I see some crits I need to point out. I didn't realize that Magnus and Red Alert had Sol on a med lab until I saw the last two panels. The way I can see to solve this problem is to add a narration bubble saying "AND SO" or "LATER ON".


Actually, yeah, I'd thought of that. I figured that the scenery change was significant enough to warrant people would realise that they'd brought Sol aboard. Also, it's not an important story point that he's in a med lab - all that matters is that he's on the shuttle, which is obvious. That's my storytelling maxim - if it's not needed, bin it. At 16 pages, I've no space for frivolity, so everything, and I do mean everything in these 4 pages is crucial to the following 12.

Also, I'm wary of using "SOON.." or "LATER..." too often... but I see your point. When I've got the rest of the issue done, I'll be in a better palce to assess it.

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I feel the white fragments on on the group shot looks to blurry. I feel it's best to not bother with the blur or not go as blurry.


They're not actually blurred, I think it's just the outer glow that I've added. Again, it's not too important a detail. Magnus mentions a debris field, you see the hologram and put 1+1 together... I can live with it.
By the way, you can't read the text assigned to each fragment as it's too small, but they all read "Drivaaar01". icon-hotrod.gif

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Also this is more a matter of opinion since you come off very stylize in your approach. I'm not happy with Magnus's proportions... they keep bouncing from panel to panel. I see a few suffer from the same problem, but more on Magnus then on anyone else.

For example.. his chest is so thick on page 2 only to see it does not stick out as much on page 3. The shoulder kibble looks smaller on his close up along with a thinner neck. Lastly he looks to have a giraffe neck in the second to last panel of page 3.


It's a deliberate homage to Marvel's UK G1 comics.

Actually, that's bulljive - it's me. icon-hotrod.gif I've a VERY slapdash approach to my art - these are the tightest things I've ever drawn, and I have a HELL of a time keeping consistent models. I'm just lazy getting reference, and well... I dunno, I just get too excited, and want to rush it. I guess I feel that as long as the character is recognisable, and evokes the right emotion, I'm happy with that.

On the flip side, there's a definite improvement in my proportions approach. Go back and read "Courage"... the art makes me WINCE now...

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I suffer from these same problems which is why I can identify with them. Other then that awesome job.


I think your proportions are fine. Oh you mean, your drawings.... well, your sequentials you posted a while back looked amazing in my opinion, much slicker and cleaner than my stuff. Post more of that, dammit!

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Posted 17 May 2007 - 04:34 AM

Woo, great stuff! Big bada boom! Love that shot of Solfire floating through space. Somthing keeps bugging me about Rodimus though.. he seems too.. small? Seems to be about the same size as Kup.

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