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@  Pennpenn : (24 April 2017 - 05:03 AM)

Because you might as well start as you mean to go on?

@  Nevermore : (24 April 2017 - 04:16 AM)

It does. Preview image is Legion's penis tongue.

@  SHIELD Agent 47 : (24 April 2017 - 04:15 AM)

Hold it. Please tell me Kiss Players doesn't have a GoBox.

@  Autobot Bubbs : (24 April 2017 - 03:10 AM)

That is epically messed up

@  Autobot Bubbs : (24 April 2017 - 03:10 AM)

GURD.... youtube just auto-played a new trailer for the Alien flick.... featuring John Denver's 'country roads' as BG music....

@  Noideaforaname : (24 April 2017 - 12:37 AM)

The Generations lineup should be decided by hitting Random Page on the wiki. "Next one is... Crankstart." 'Alright, I love the Scavengers!' "No, no, CrankSTART. The repaint of a repaint of a repaint of a Scout version of a Deluxe based on a background vehicle from the Live Action film." 'Oh'

@  RichardT1977 : (23 April 2017 - 11:31 PM)

After we get a couple of Pretenders. And a Titans Return Star Saber (not a difficult retool from Galvatron).

@  BlackMax : (23 April 2017 - 10:21 PM)

I really do like all the attention to the 80s toys, being from that era myself. However, I would be really happy if (let's say post Trypticon) the Generations line turns to the 2001 RiD line, Beast Wars stuff, and moves forwarda bit.

@  SHIELD Agent 47 : (23 April 2017 - 08:19 PM)

I'm curious because I'm not an 80s kid nor have I ever held an actual 80s toy in my hands, but I'm pretty sure a mathematically significant portion of 80s kids here do have a like for cartoon accuracy.

@  SHIELD Agent 47 : (23 April 2017 - 08:15 PM)

How much of this community favors versus not favors the current Hasbro design team's general trend of accuracy to classic 1980s toys and lack of attention to any other era of Transformers?

@  Fruitloop Mu... : (23 April 2017 - 07:36 PM)

Telly, ah, got it.

@  Evac : (23 April 2017 - 06:41 PM)

"You can do magic things!" "It's called evil, kid."

@  Foffy : (23 April 2017 - 06:27 PM)

Potatoes don't have ears. That's corn.

@  Telly : (23 April 2017 - 06:27 PM)

little furry potatos

@  Evac : (23 April 2017 - 06:24 PM)

This potato's got big ears...

@  Foffy : (23 April 2017 - 06:18 PM)

The potato rebellion will be swift and brutal.

@  Waspinator : (23 April 2017 - 03:48 PM)

IT'S WATCHING US

@  Telly : (23 April 2017 - 03:34 PM)

yeah, at the time im posting this, theres a "2" next to it and me and fruitloop are shown to be the 2 people reading it

@  Telly : (23 April 2017 - 03:33 PM)

i think it just means that someone is reading the shoutbox

@  Fruitloop Mu... : (23 April 2017 - 03:25 PM)

Re The Rise of Cobra: I like bad movies and action sequences involving elite ninjas, so I watched / fast-forwarded through it on Netflix a couple of years ago.

@  Fruitloop Mu... : (23 April 2017 - 03:23 PM)

Can anyone tell me why the Shoutbox has a notification (a "1") when I login sometimes? I scroll through and don't see anything addressed to me. What does it mean?

@  ▲ndrusi : (23 April 2017 - 01:33 PM)

I miss the 2000s when my local stores got new toys more than once a year.

@  NotVeryKnightly : (23 April 2017 - 01:09 PM)

I mean, it might be hard to not know about something before release at all, but the degree of familiarity that you described is only attainable if you intentionally seek things out.

@  NotVeryKnightly : (23 April 2017 - 12:59 PM)

That's at least partially your own fault. The "in motion" part sounds like you even watched videos, which require conscious effort, unlike pictures that might be hard to even avoid.

@  Bass X0 : (23 April 2017 - 12:22 PM)

I miss the 80s where the first time I ever saw Transformers toys was on the toy shelves and hadn't already saw the toy from every angle and in motion several months beforehand. It made seeing a toy in the store something very special to me that I can't recapture now.

@  Evac : (23 April 2017 - 12:14 PM)

I could see Generations becoming a TRU exclusive line, now that I think about it.

@  Xellos : (23 April 2017 - 12:14 PM)

Also, Generations weathered AOE, and the TLK line seems to be short as well, so I think we'll still be seeing some room for Generations.

@  TheMightyMol... : (23 April 2017 - 12:11 PM)

Titans aren't really wide-released anyway. About the only brick-and-mortar chain to reliably carry them is Toys R Us.

@  NotVeryKnightly : (23 April 2017 - 12:08 PM)

Isn't Trypticon still a long way from now?

@  Evac : (23 April 2017 - 11:57 AM)

They wouldn't let a big-ticket item like that get cancelled.

@  Evac : (23 April 2017 - 11:57 AM)

Counter argument: They still haven't released Trypticon.

@  unluckiness : (23 April 2017 - 09:25 AM)

But yeah, not having any big-name media means it's the most likely, although the premiere series packaging might convince retailers to dedicate more shelf space, kinda like SW Black.

@  unluckiness : (23 April 2017 - 09:24 AM)

I'd expect Generations to be the sacrificial lamb since they can't possibly stock RID any less.

@  RichardT1977 : (23 April 2017 - 09:06 AM)

I'm thinking the subline that doesn't have a movie or TV show will be the one on the cutting board.

@  RichardT1977 : (23 April 2017 - 09:05 AM)

Back to TF toys: the question is whether or not retailers will be willing to commit the peg/shelf space for three sublines. And which one will be sidelined if space is at a premium.

@  unluckiness : (23 April 2017 - 06:28 AM)

No idea.

@  TheMightyMol... : (23 April 2017 - 03:40 AM)

Sometimes the Shoutbox takes a little longer to catch up to a new avatar.

@  NotVeryKnightly : (23 April 2017 - 03:00 AM)

In the Shoutbox I'm seeing the pink thing instead of that guy with the weird eyes.

@  Telly : (23 April 2017 - 02:59 AM)

looks the same to me. maybe it looks different cause its smaller?

@  NotVeryKnightly : (23 April 2017 - 02:57 AM)

@unluckiness why/how is your avatar here different than the one in your profile

@  unluckiness : (23 April 2017 - 02:44 AM)

Revengeance

@  TheMightyMol... : (23 April 2017 - 01:33 AM)

Some people say revenge is sweet. Others say revenge is a dish best served cold. So basically, revenge is ice cream.

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Retribution is fun.

@  LBD "Nyt... : (22 April 2017 - 05:39 PM)

'Sides, we all know the best G.I. Joe movie is Street Fighter, even if people haven't realized it yet.

@  LBD "Nyt... : (22 April 2017 - 05:39 PM)

I thought it was... okay. Okay as a movie, kinda fun, but not quite really feeling the G.I. Joe. I heard the sequel fixed that, but I've yet to see it.

@  Daith : (22 April 2017 - 05:26 PM)

Not sure about others but tried too hard to mainstream the idea to the public, making Baroness and the future Cobra Commander Duke's ex fiance and her brother was stupid and convoluted, and the power armor was a bit dumb

@  SHIELD Agent 47 : (22 April 2017 - 05:14 PM)

What's the general opinion here about G.I. Joe: The Rise of Cobra?

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In response to whether Arachnid Base or Orcanoch is the weirder.

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My friend Take: "My vote goes to Spider Volcanobutt."

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When I find myself in times of trouble, small marsupials come to me. Chattering and hissing, wallabies.


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#1 Drivaaar

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Posted 16 May 2007 - 07:54 PM

Hey everyone!

Okay, here's the first four pages of my next comic project, "The Best Defence...".

Set a few years after "Courage Under Fire", "Crisis Of Conscience", and "Out Of Time", this comic is a little more stand-alone.

Many thanks to SolFire for letting me use his fancharacter, and to -VP- for the use of Sentinus (who's arm features non-prominently in panel 4. icon-fire.gif). Also, mad props to Drivaaar for the use of Quartz. Sterling dude, I'm sure none of this would be possible without him.

This time around, everything on these 4 pages is by me. Pencils, inks, colours, lock stock and barrel. Expect the final 4 pages of part one to be posted in the coming months, as and when I finish 'em.

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TO BE CONTINUED...

Comments and critiques more than welcome!

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Posted 16 May 2007 - 08:07 PM

....I'M SO EXCITED!!!!.....Although Magnus was really quick to blame Sol.
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Posted 16 May 2007 - 08:11 PM

Magnus must come from the Nightbeat school of blame aportion.

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Posted 16 May 2007 - 08:29 PM

Excuse me while I jump around with glee.

*jump, jump, jump*

Did I do it? Or didn't I? Will I meet Sentinus? Kup? Rodimus?
Stay tuned....I know I will!

EXPLOSIVE THORN!!!!! BOOM!

Ummm, really nice job Kris. I can't believe how well you translated Sol's bio into the story. What with the whole Ultra Magnus sending him on assignment. Someone's getting a big ole chrimmus gift this year!

On a strickly art side: Everything is very well done. Colors and atmosphere are great! They emphasize but not detract from the story.
The only, only, thing that catches my eye is the green spotlights; and that's only in the last 2 big panels. Seems like they're missing light sources. I mean, they fade and all, but the actual light source seems to be missing. Maybe add in some yellow around the base?

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Edited by SolFire, 16 May 2007 - 10:53 PM.


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Posted 16 May 2007 - 09:44 PM

Am I the only one to notice Solfire's MTMTA bio on that screen on page 3?
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Man, I am so excited to see how this turns out. I fel some really big twist coming. In 4 pages you set up a lot for the rest of the story.Very well done. The art is fantastic as always.

I can't wait to see a fully drawn Sentinus coming from you. icon-hotrod.gif

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Posted 16 May 2007 - 09:46 PM

QUOTE(-VP- @ May 16 2007, 09:44 PM) View Post

Am I the only one to notice Solfire's MTMTA bio on that screen on page 3?



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Posted 16 May 2007 - 09:57 PM

This is just so cool. I love the use of the profile pic on the one screen. Your work looks great like always and the story is awesome.

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Posted 16 May 2007 - 10:13 PM

I love Kup. Seriously. In just a few panels, you create a father figure for Rodimus, one who can still call him "lad" even though his name ends in Prime now and one whose advice is firm and serious yet gently delivered. I may not know the first thing about how to critique the art side of things (about which I'll just say WOW PRETTY), but I like to think that I know good characterization when I see it, and I see it here. icon-hotrod.gif

Oh, and "KUH-DUNG!" is the best sound effect in a long time. icon-fire.gif


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Posted 16 May 2007 - 10:45 PM

Sweet I have always had a soft spot for your work Drivaaar! I can't wait for more!

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Posted 16 May 2007 - 10:49 PM

You spin some mean words.

Rock on.

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Posted 16 May 2007 - 11:18 PM

Have I mentioned how much I love your work? It reminds me so much of the old Marvel stuff.

You've come a long way for doing this all yerself, my friend.
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Posted 16 May 2007 - 11:25 PM

Lovely written work so far, Drivaar!

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Posted 17 May 2007 - 12:08 AM

QUOTE(MiLkShAkE @ May 16 2007, 09:07 PM) View Post

....I'M SO EXCITED!!!!.....Although Magnus was really quick to blame Sol.

it's because he doesn't want to deal with it now.


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Posted 17 May 2007 - 01:13 AM

Damn yo! I love the story already! You always seem to have a way to keep me gripped and wanting for more!

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Posted 17 May 2007 - 02:01 AM

Cheers guys! You're enthusiasm keeps me wanting to make 'em! What makes it better is that you all seem to appreciate the story and the characters as well as the effort I put in to the art, and that means more to me than anything... comments like Newsy's just utterly psyche me, especially when I think of stuff like how Sentinus and Kup interact later, Quartz and Magnus having a domestic... Just makes me want to finish it quicker!

Oh and Winston, I hope I do Sentinus justice - he will be BURYING that axe in someone. I guarantee it.

Sol, glad you like SolFire's treatment - I try to stick fairly close to the bio's (hence the homage, heheh! Also I can't beleive no-one spotted Nightbeat reading the Allspark Forums in Crisis...) so that means a lot.

If anyone's interested, you know I hear the characters voices in my head? Well, the canon guys you already know (especially Kup, SO distinctive) but if you're wondering who the fan characters are going to sound like...

Quartz sounds like me. Cos he is me, pretty much.

SolFire... well, think Jeff Bridges in Tron.... "Because man!!"

Sentinus... I haven't gotten to any dialogue of his yet (his day comes in part two), but right now, I'm hearing a Kris Kristofferson-esque vibe...

EEeeeeeeeeeeee! I'm all psyched now. I've been so creatively bummed out lately, you've all got me jazzed up again!



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Posted 17 May 2007 - 02:15 AM

Really sweet work, dude. icon-hotrod.gif

Love the voice choices. icon-fire.gif

Gotta say you're being an inspiration to me, in fiddling with my own comic ideas. I haven't had any come to fruition yet, but you always get the juices a-churnin'. =)

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Posted 17 May 2007 - 02:38 AM

After taking a second glance I see some crits I need to point out. I didn't realize that Magnus and Red Alert had Sol on a med lab until I saw the last two panels. The way I can see to solve this problem is to add a narration bubble saying "AND SO" or "LATER ON". I feel the white fragments on on the group shot looks to blurry. I feel it's best to not bother with the blur or not go as blurry.

Also this is more a matter of opinion since you come off very stylize in your approach. I'm not happy with Magnus's proportions... they keep bouncing from panel to panel. I see a few suffer from the same problem, but more on Magnus then on anyone else.

For example.. his chest is so thick on page 2 only to see it does not stick out as much on page 3. The shoulder kibble looks smaller on his close up along with a thinner neck. Lastly he looks to have a giraffe neck in the second to last panel of page 3.

I suffer from these same problems which is why I can identify with them. Other then that awesome job.

Oh I forgot.. the colors on Rodimus are EXTREMLY OFF!!!
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Posted 17 May 2007 - 03:26 AM

QUOTE(Drivaaar @ May 17 2007, 02:01 AM) View Post

Quartz and Magnus having a domestic

Who ever could have seen that coming? I mean, they always get along so fantastically well... icon-arcee.gif

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Oh and Winston, I hope I do Sentinus justice - he will be BURYING that axe in someone. I guarantee it.

WOO! And hey - maybe seeing that will get me off my butt and get me to finish the Sentinus piece I've been working on...

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Also I can't beleive no-one spotted Nightbeat reading the Allspark Forums in Crisis

What? Where?

*goes and looks* Oh SWEET. icon-fire.gif

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AHAHAHAHA! icon-fire.gif That's just great.


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#19 Drivaaar

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Posted 17 May 2007 - 03:45 AM

QUOTE(Headless Lieger @ May 17 2007, 08:38 AM) View Post

After taking a second glance I see some crits I need to point out. I didn't realize that Magnus and Red Alert had Sol on a med lab until I saw the last two panels. The way I can see to solve this problem is to add a narration bubble saying "AND SO" or "LATER ON".


Actually, yeah, I'd thought of that. I figured that the scenery change was significant enough to warrant people would realise that they'd brought Sol aboard. Also, it's not an important story point that he's in a med lab - all that matters is that he's on the shuttle, which is obvious. That's my storytelling maxim - if it's not needed, bin it. At 16 pages, I've no space for frivolity, so everything, and I do mean everything in these 4 pages is crucial to the following 12.

Also, I'm wary of using "SOON.." or "LATER..." too often... but I see your point. When I've got the rest of the issue done, I'll be in a better palce to assess it.

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I feel the white fragments on on the group shot looks to blurry. I feel it's best to not bother with the blur or not go as blurry.


They're not actually blurred, I think it's just the outer glow that I've added. Again, it's not too important a detail. Magnus mentions a debris field, you see the hologram and put 1+1 together... I can live with it.
By the way, you can't read the text assigned to each fragment as it's too small, but they all read "Drivaaar01". icon-hotrod.gif

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Also this is more a matter of opinion since you come off very stylize in your approach. I'm not happy with Magnus's proportions... they keep bouncing from panel to panel. I see a few suffer from the same problem, but more on Magnus then on anyone else.

For example.. his chest is so thick on page 2 only to see it does not stick out as much on page 3. The shoulder kibble looks smaller on his close up along with a thinner neck. Lastly he looks to have a giraffe neck in the second to last panel of page 3.


It's a deliberate homage to Marvel's UK G1 comics.

Actually, that's bulljive - it's me. icon-hotrod.gif I've a VERY slapdash approach to my art - these are the tightest things I've ever drawn, and I have a HELL of a time keeping consistent models. I'm just lazy getting reference, and well... I dunno, I just get too excited, and want to rush it. I guess I feel that as long as the character is recognisable, and evokes the right emotion, I'm happy with that.

On the flip side, there's a definite improvement in my proportions approach. Go back and read "Courage"... the art makes me WINCE now...

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I suffer from these same problems which is why I can identify with them. Other then that awesome job.


I think your proportions are fine. Oh you mean, your drawings.... well, your sequentials you posted a while back looked amazing in my opinion, much slicker and cleaner than my stuff. Post more of that, dammit!

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Posted 17 May 2007 - 04:34 AM

Woo, great stuff! Big bada boom! Love that shot of Solfire floating through space. Somthing keeps bugging me about Rodimus though.. he seems too.. small? Seems to be about the same size as Kup.

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