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@  Sabrblade : (21 June 2021 - 08:58 PM)

Daddy!

@  Kalidor : (21 June 2021 - 04:50 PM)

Not just any girl - your mom!

@  Steevy Maximus : (20 June 2021 - 08:19 AM)

Happy Knocked-Up-A-Girl Day!

@  Bass X0 : (20 June 2021 - 02:13 AM)

Happy father's day!

@  Hot Rod Mustang : (19 June 2021 - 07:45 PM)

what up sluts?

@  TheMightyMol... : (19 June 2021 - 07:20 PM)

Only 6? Filthy casual.

@  wonko the sane? : (19 June 2021 - 04:26 PM)

Multiplaying as in "playing with other people" or multiplaying as in "6 WoW accounts running at the same time"?

@  Steevy Maximus : (19 June 2021 - 01:45 PM)

Oh no! Darkeklaw is multiplaying! (See birthday box)

@  tigerhawk : (19 June 2021 - 11:54 AM)

In my Marvel comic canon the second wave of special teams were handpicked active robots whose experience would theoretically make more stable combiners, the Combaticons came from Cybertron, the Protectobots were imprinted from crystals explaining both Onslauhghts ancestry and First Aid's experience.

@  Dekafox : (18 June 2021 - 05:24 PM)

Spotlight: Lioconvoy?

@  Bass X0 : (18 June 2021 - 04:15 PM)

How long until IDW puts out an Optimus Pride Month comic?

@  Cyoti : (18 June 2021 - 03:32 PM)

Even with B5, it didn't follow its original 5-year plan. Summaries from the supplementary materials for the scriptbooks demonstrates that was originally planned was very different from the actual product. Sinclair's actor's departure seemingly changed the show to the point that the stuff with the Vorlons/Shadows, the Minbari and the ending were all changed. Mapping out a show years in advance is difficult because of changing bts stuff like writers/actors leaving the show or suddenly having to retool because of ratings/execs. No plan survives intact especially in a chaotic environment of television production.

@  Rycochet : (18 June 2021 - 11:27 AM)

To be like Babylon 5, you need to cram a 2 season story arc into one because you fear being cancelled, then get further seasons you have no more material for. You also need a spinoff which the network heads don't want and do everything in their power to kill it while it's on air.

@  wonko the sane? : (18 June 2021 - 10:33 AM)

The required effort is probably why we don't have babylon 6; TNG.

@  Dekafox : (18 June 2021 - 10:23 AM)

Everyone wants to be like Babylon 5 but no one wants to put in the effort

@  Nevermore : (18 June 2021 - 09:36 AM)

And then, after five years of hosting their own official podcast where they would answer fan questions and always encouraged their audience to pay attention to the mysteries, after the show had ended, they claimed the show was never really about the mysteries, it was all about the characters.

@  Nevermore : (18 June 2021 - 09:34 AM)

What really bugs me with "Lost" is that the producers had willfully negotiated a set end date with the network halfway through season 3 (the show ended with season 6, as planned) specifically so they could plan out the plot for the remainder of the show. Then... the plot wasn't resolved properly.

@  tigerhawk : (18 June 2021 - 04:17 AM)

By then I had lost interest in arc TV shows, I followed a few and got the impression they were just making them up as they went along. Seemed to be a trend starting with new Galactica and Lost though in actuality began with The X Files and has become a trope called 'The Chris Carter Effect'.

@  Nevermore : (18 June 2021 - 02:12 AM)

I think it was season 3 part 1 specifically, since they had two separate plot "arcs" for season 3.

@  Nevermore : (18 June 2021 - 02:11 AM)

They threw everything in there, with no clear story structure, no clear stakes, and characters flip-flopping wherever the episode's writer needed them to go for their half-baked plot.

@  Nevermore : (18 June 2021 - 02:10 AM)

Season 3 was the worst, with a terrible meandering random events plot.

@  tigerhawk : (17 June 2021 - 11:59 PM)

'save the cheerleader' then in season 3 he tears her skull open, scans her power and she simply heals. They didn't think any of it through.

@  Shockwave 75 : (17 June 2021 - 07:04 PM)

Well, you know Hollywood; if something's popular, run it into the ground!

@  Cybersnark : (17 June 2021 - 04:40 PM)

And then there was the Writers' Strike, which isn't the show's fault.

@  Cybersnark : (17 June 2021 - 04:40 PM)

Yeah, Sylar should've been, if not killed off, at least left to rest.

@  Nevermore : (17 June 2021 - 03:43 PM)

It never truly recovered from that.

@  Nevermore : (17 June 2021 - 03:43 PM)

Season 1 was good until the finale.

@  Paladin : (17 June 2021 - 09:37 AM)

because it sucked.

@  tigerhawk : (17 June 2021 - 08:58 AM)

Heroes was cancelled twice.

@  Nevermore : (17 June 2021 - 06:33 AM)

The song's official name is "Holding Out for a Hero".

@  PlutoniumBoss : (17 June 2021 - 12:54 AM)

That's a long time to wait for a sandwich.

@  Maruten : (16 June 2021 - 07:13 PM)

Lucky there's a hero arriving in July.

@  Steevy Maximus : (16 June 2021 - 05:38 PM)

I think I've heard "I Need a Hero" more times this past week than I have in the past several years.

@  tigerhawk : (16 June 2021 - 12:41 PM)

Thanks to Earthrise I can recreate the end of Return of Optimus Prime part 1.

@  wonko the sane? : (16 June 2021 - 11:19 AM)

I wish they would do something like that here: but then it would become obvious in which provinces you're getting gouged.

@  Nevermore : (16 June 2021 - 10:42 AM)

Here in Germany, the price you see is the price you pay, tax included.

@  Nevermore : (16 June 2021 - 10:42 AM)

I always find it weaird hearing that stores in the US don't initially already taxes in their prices.

@  Nevermore : (16 June 2021 - 04:33 AM)

You know what's kewl? Poor literacy.

@  wonko the sane? : (15 June 2021 - 04:31 PM)

Awesome, thanks for the heads up.

@  CORVUS : (15 June 2021 - 04:12 PM)

Kewl. Thanks!

@  Kalidor : (15 June 2021 - 02:08 PM)

Hey everybody! I wanted to announce that Sarahthecutevixen is our newest addition to the Allspark staff. She's primarily looking over discord stuff, but I wanted to make sure she got a welcome over here as well.

@  NovaSaber : (14 June 2021 - 11:07 AM)

Turn-Bass RPG

@  Sabrblade : (14 June 2021 - 10:21 AM)

Do not X0 quietly into the night.

@  ▲ndrusi : (14 June 2021 - 10:13 AM)

All your Bass are--

@  Donocropolis : (14 June 2021 - 05:56 AM)

*Bass X0 not available in Alaska or Hawaii.

@  Steevy Maximus : (13 June 2021 - 07:36 PM)

Get your own Big Mouth BassX0 for the low price of $19.95 (plusshippingandhandling)

@  repowers : (13 June 2021 - 12:45 PM)

Mr. Speaker, we are for the Bass X0.

@  Nevermore : (13 June 2021 - 06:04 AM)

It's all about that Bass XD.

@  tigerhawk : (13 June 2021 - 02:16 AM)

Will altering the moons orbit in any way help.

@  PlutoniumBoss : (13 June 2021 - 01:51 AM)

Now that you have seen this Bass XO, you must send it to five other Bass XOs or BassXO will come to you in a week and then you too will be BassXO.


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What color is this toy?!? Aka: Deceptive photos: Lighting and camera settings


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#1 Nevermore

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Posted 19 May 2021 - 05:16 AM

So, the G1 Micromater Race Track Patrol. Here they are all in the same photo, courtesy of Transformerland:

RTP1.jpg

 

And here they are again, courtesy of TFSource:

RTP2.jpeg

 

Wait, what? How much of a color difference is there really between Barricade and Ground Hog?

 

It gets even crazier: These are Barricade and Ground Hog courtesy of TFU.info:

Barricaderobotmode.jpg  Barricadevehiclemode.jpg  GroundHogrobotmode.jpg  GroundHogvehiclemode.jpg

 

Barricade is teal, Ground Hog is blue.

 

And yet these are Barricade and Ground Hog courtesy of TFWiki:

G1-toy_Barricade.jpg  G1-toy_GroundHog.jpg

 

Barricade is blue, Ground Hog is purple.

 

What the hell?

 

TFW2005 is somewhere in the middle:

decept_race_barricade_1191930367.jpg  decept_race_ground_hog_1191930367.jpg

 

Barricade is a slightly teal-ish blue, Ground Hog is a slightly purple-ish blue.

 

Somehow these weird differences in displaying the toys' colors led to these renditions in Dreamwave's "More Than Meets the Eye" profile book series:

MTMTE Barricade.jpg  MTMTE Ground Hog.jpg

 

And this resulted in Earthrise Ground Hog and "Decepticon Runner" from the "Galactic Odyssey Collection" Micromaster 6-pack ending up with colors that don't reflect the color difference between the G1 versions of these two in an even remotely accurate fashion (source):

ER RTP1.jpg  ER RTP2.jpg

 

 

Does anyone have any other examples of how lighting conditions and camera settings have messed up the way of how the colors of a toy have been presented in a photo? Or even an example of how this has led to the character in question having been rendered in vastly incorrect colors in fiction or a later toy representation?


Edited by Nevermore, 19 May 2021 - 05:21 AM.

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Big thanks to my dad for playing along with this visual recreation.

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Posted 19 May 2021 - 05:38 AM

This photo of Horri-Bull is from Cliffbee's website:
Horri-Bull Cliffbee.jpg
 
At one point, it was colored like this, which is how it was featured at TFWiki for years:
Horribull_bullhorn_toy.jpg
 
This in turn inspired this crazy rendition of Horri-Bull in issue 1 of IDW's 2012 "Robots in Disguise" series:
Horri-Bull MTMTE 1.jpg

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Big thanks to my dad for playing along with this visual recreation.

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Posted 19 May 2021 - 07:05 AM

Back during Energon, no two pictures of Energon Galvatron seemed to be the same color.  Seibertron's were borderline pink, while TFU's were a dark grape, and everyone else ran anywhere between that range.



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Posted 19 May 2021 - 07:49 AM

All I know is Alternators Shockwave IS NOT PURPLE!


 
 
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#5 Sabrblade

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Posted 19 May 2021 - 09:17 AM

Or even an example of how this has led to the character in question having been rendered in vastly incorrect colors in fiction or a later toy representation?

 

Oh yes. What you're describing is basically a form of another phenomenon called Citogenesis, with several other examples (among examples of other forms of this phenomenon) listed here.


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No, we don't all know everything but we should spread and share that what we do know.

If I'm consistently misspelling a word, I would want and expect people to correct me as should I imagine all decent people who know the value of good literacy.

Its just arrogant laziness to know you're spelling a word incorrectly and not correct yourself or ignore the advice when people do tell you how to spell a word correctly.

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Posted 19 May 2021 - 10:19 AM

Gonna need a big ol' citation on that "aged VHS tape" story for Bug Bite, who comes from a set where no one is colored based on their old toys (and in which Bug Bite was never going to be yellow in the first place, for obvious reasons).

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Posted 19 May 2021 - 11:24 AM

Gonna need a big ol' citation on that "aged VHS tape" story for Bug Bite, who comes from a set where no one is colored based on their old toys (and in which Bug Bite was never going to be yellow in the first place, for obvious reasons).

That one jumped out at me as well.  Strikes me as exactly the sort of theory that gets randomly entered into a wiki as the first stage of the very Citogenesis the page is describing.



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Posted 19 May 2021 - 11:48 AM

I have held a G1 Quickswitch in my hands and I'm still not sure what color that blue/green/whatever color is.


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Posted 20 May 2021 - 02:33 AM

Teal (?) does end up photographing weird a lot of the time.



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Posted 20 May 2021 - 11:07 AM

Time has added another component to that, because a lot of the light blue/light green/turquoise G1 toys have yellowed into other, different blue-greens, so not only is it a set of hues that rarely reproduce in RGB accurately, any two copies of the same toy may not actually be the same color in real life.



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Posted 20 May 2021 - 11:20 AM

I've noticed that G1 Constructicon/Blitzwing purple tends to appear blue with some cameras.

Constructicon green is sometimes tricky to capture, as well.

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