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@  Dekafox : (18 June 2021 - 05:24 PM)

Spotlight: Lioconvoy?

@  Bass X0 : (18 June 2021 - 04:15 PM)

How long until IDW puts out an Optimus Pride Month comic?

@  Cyoti : (18 June 2021 - 03:32 PM)

Even with B5, it didn't follow its original 5-year plan. Summaries from the supplementary materials for the scriptbooks demonstrates that was originally planned was very different from the actual product. Sinclair's actor's departure seemingly changed the show to the point that the stuff with the Vorlons/Shadows, the Minbari and the ending were all changed. Mapping out a show years in advance is difficult because of changing bts stuff like writers/actors leaving the show or suddenly having to retool because of ratings/execs. No plan survives intact especially in a chaotic environment of television production.

@  Rycochet : (18 June 2021 - 11:27 AM)

To be like Babylon 5, you need to cram a 2 season story arc into one because you fear being cancelled, then get further seasons you have no more material for. You also need a spinoff which the network heads don't want and do everything in their power to kill it while it's on air.

@  wonko the sane? : (18 June 2021 - 10:33 AM)

The required effort is probably why we don't have babylon 6; TNG.

@  Dekafox : (18 June 2021 - 10:23 AM)

Everyone wants to be like Babylon 5 but no one wants to put in the effort

@  Nevermore : (18 June 2021 - 09:36 AM)

And then, after five years of hosting their own official podcast where they would answer fan questions and always encouraged their audience to pay attention to the mysteries, after the show had ended, they claimed the show was never really about the mysteries, it was all about the characters.

@  Nevermore : (18 June 2021 - 09:34 AM)

What really bugs me with "Lost" is that the producers had willfully negotiated a set end date with the network halfway through season 3 (the show ended with season 6, as planned) specifically so they could plan out the plot for the remainder of the show. Then... the plot wasn't resolved properly.

@  tigerhawk : (18 June 2021 - 04:17 AM)

By then I had lost interest in arc TV shows, I followed a few and got the impression they were just making them up as they went along. Seemed to be a trend starting with new Galactica and Lost though in actuality began with The X Files and has become a trope called 'The Chris Carter Effect'.

@  Nevermore : (18 June 2021 - 02:12 AM)

I think it was season 3 part 1 specifically, since they had two separate plot "arcs" for season 3.

@  Nevermore : (18 June 2021 - 02:11 AM)

They threw everything in there, with no clear story structure, no clear stakes, and characters flip-flopping wherever the episode's writer needed them to go for their half-baked plot.

@  Nevermore : (18 June 2021 - 02:10 AM)

Season 3 was the worst, with a terrible meandering random events plot.

@  tigerhawk : (17 June 2021 - 11:59 PM)

'save the cheerleader' then in season 3 he tears her skull open, scans her power and she simply heals. They didn't think any of it through.

@  Shockwave 75 : (17 June 2021 - 07:04 PM)

Well, you know Hollywood; if something's popular, run it into the ground!

@  Cybersnark : (17 June 2021 - 04:40 PM)

And then there was the Writers' Strike, which isn't the show's fault.

@  Cybersnark : (17 June 2021 - 04:40 PM)

Yeah, Sylar should've been, if not killed off, at least left to rest.

@  Nevermore : (17 June 2021 - 03:43 PM)

It never truly recovered from that.

@  Nevermore : (17 June 2021 - 03:43 PM)

Season 1 was good until the finale.

@  Paladin : (17 June 2021 - 09:37 AM)

because it sucked.

@  tigerhawk : (17 June 2021 - 08:58 AM)

Heroes was cancelled twice.

@  Nevermore : (17 June 2021 - 06:33 AM)

The song's official name is "Holding Out for a Hero".

@  PlutoniumBoss : (17 June 2021 - 12:54 AM)

That's a long time to wait for a sandwich.

@  Maruten : (16 June 2021 - 07:13 PM)

Lucky there's a hero arriving in July.

@  Steevy Maximus : (16 June 2021 - 05:38 PM)

I think I've heard "I Need a Hero" more times this past week than I have in the past several years.

@  tigerhawk : (16 June 2021 - 12:41 PM)

Thanks to Earthrise I can recreate the end of Return of Optimus Prime part 1.

@  wonko the sane? : (16 June 2021 - 11:19 AM)

I wish they would do something like that here: but then it would become obvious in which provinces you're getting gouged.

@  Nevermore : (16 June 2021 - 10:42 AM)

Here in Germany, the price you see is the price you pay, tax included.

@  Nevermore : (16 June 2021 - 10:42 AM)

I always find it weaird hearing that stores in the US don't initially already taxes in their prices.

@  Nevermore : (16 June 2021 - 04:33 AM)

You know what's kewl? Poor literacy.

@  wonko the sane? : (15 June 2021 - 04:31 PM)

Awesome, thanks for the heads up.

@  CORVUS : (15 June 2021 - 04:12 PM)

Kewl. Thanks!

@  Kalidor : (15 June 2021 - 02:08 PM)

Hey everybody! I wanted to announce that Sarahthecutevixen is our newest addition to the Allspark staff. She's primarily looking over discord stuff, but I wanted to make sure she got a welcome over here as well.

@  NovaSaber : (14 June 2021 - 11:07 AM)

Turn-Bass RPG

@  Sabrblade : (14 June 2021 - 10:21 AM)

Do not X0 quietly into the night.

@  ▲ndrusi : (14 June 2021 - 10:13 AM)

All your Bass are--

@  Donocropolis : (14 June 2021 - 05:56 AM)

*Bass X0 not available in Alaska or Hawaii.

@  Steevy Maximus : (13 June 2021 - 07:36 PM)

Get your own Big Mouth BassX0 for the low price of $19.95 (plusshippingandhandling)

@  repowers : (13 June 2021 - 12:45 PM)

Mr. Speaker, we are for the Bass X0.

@  Nevermore : (13 June 2021 - 06:04 AM)

It's all about that Bass XD.

@  tigerhawk : (13 June 2021 - 02:16 AM)

Will altering the moons orbit in any way help.

@  PlutoniumBoss : (13 June 2021 - 01:51 AM)

Now that you have seen this Bass XO, you must send it to five other Bass XOs or BassXO will come to you in a week and then you too will be BassXO.

@  Telly : (13 June 2021 - 12:08 AM)

or feed him after midnight

@  wonko the sane? : (12 June 2021 - 09:00 PM)

Just don't drop him.

@  Kaon : (12 June 2021 - 08:03 PM)

man this chat is nothing but Bass X)

@  Nevermore : (12 June 2021 - 07:08 PM)

Carefull, he is a Bass Xo.

@  TheMightyMol... : (12 June 2021 - 05:53 PM)

Aw, it's not even a shiny.

@  Sabrblade : (12 June 2021 - 05:27 PM)

A wild Bass X0 has appeared!

@  Bass X0 : (12 June 2021 - 05:20 PM)

I didn't even try this time.

@  Nevermore : (12 June 2021 - 03:43 AM)

8ass X÷ has hijacked this conversation.

@  Bass X0 : (12 June 2021 - 03:37 AM)

Its Bass X0. I named myself after my three favourite Mega Man characters - Bass, X and Zero. I did consider going with Vile Bass X0, but that would have been going too far.

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Generations 2021/2022 RUMORS compilation. Update 06/05/2021 2022 JR Headmasters in Legacy

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Posted 21 February 2021 - 06:59 PM

Thought I'd make a seperate thread rather than bog down the Kingdom thread.

Figured a catch all thread would be a good idea. I'll try and update this post as things are either leaked, rumored, revealed or disproven.

Will change title when we know name of next year's line.

These are at this time, just rumors. So grains of salt as always.

Generations 2021/2022 Rumors/Listings



Wave 4

Deluxe Waspinator
Deluxe Shadow Panther
Voyager Tigatron
Voyager Starscream (ER Repack)

Wave 5

Deluxe Slammer

Deluxe Pipes
Voyager Blaster with Eject


Deluxe Road Rage
Leader T-Wrecks
World's Collide 4 Pack

Deluxe Red Alert

Amazon/Golden Disk Collection
Deluxe Terrorsaur
Deluxe Road Ranger and Puffer
Deluxe Jackpot
Voyager Tigatron

Hasbro Pulse
Deluxe SG Goldbug
Commander SG Jetfire

Generations Selects
Leader Galvatron (Toy Colors)

Line Unknown
Galvatron Unicron Pack/Reformatting Deco
Prime Optimus Prime - Weird Listing.

Studio Series 2021

Deluxe ROTF Sideswipe
Deluxe ROTF Jolt
Deluxe ROTF Bumblebee and Sam
Voyager BB Thrust
Voyager 86 Sweep
Leader ROTF Grindor with Ravage

Voyager BB Skywarp
Voyager BB Thundercracker
Voyager BB Red Wing
Voyager BB Sunstorm


Legacy Trilogy: Evolution (working Title)

Deluxe Breakdown
Deluxe Dragstrip
Deluxe Wildrider
Deluxe Dead End
Deluxe Skids

Deluxe Tarantulas

Deluxe Prime Arcee
Leader Straxus
Leader Blitzwing
Commander Motormaster
Prime Bulkhead
Prime Optimus





Studio Series 2022


Core BB Ravage
Deluxe BB Brawn
Deluxe BB Wheeljack
Deluxe BB Ratchet
Deluxe 86 Perceptor
Deluxe ROTF Sideways
Voyager 86 Junkyard
Voyager BB Soundwave
Voyager AOE Evasion Optimus Prime
Leader 86 King Starscream

BB Arcee

BB Shockwave

BB Ironhide

DOTM Bumbleebee

High Octane Bumblebee

Hound (Maybe)

Crosshairs (Maybe)

TLK Megatron (Maybe)

Line unknown
G1 Snarl

G1 Swoop
G1 Sludge
G1 Shrapnel
G1 Bombshell
G1 Kickback


Project Park - Jurassic Park - Kingdom Megatron redeco
Project Bat - Dracula/Universal Monsters - Mindwipe retool
Project Jam - Collab with real band - 2022 Blaster Retool

Additional Info

Theme is more like Thrilling 30. Characters from varied eras.
Strong lean on G1 and BW in light of high performance of early Kingdom and Studio 86 sales.
Some UT characters mixed in as well.

Combiners not an overlying theme. Might be one a year. Menasor up first. Defensor may follow in 2023, still early development.

Update: 04/03/2021

Apollux (our original Kingdom leaker) has mentioned that G1 Skids is also on the list of potential releases for 2022.

The theme and possible name for the new trilogy starting in 2022 is Legacy. Which will build up to the 40th anniversary of the brand in 2024....Christ I feel old.

Removed the vintage bw stuff as that now exists and has its own discussion threads.
Update 04/26/2021
Part one of the new Trilogy is called Evolution (working title)
So if it follows the WFC model. Itll be Transformers Legacy Trilogy: Evolution

Update 05/03/2021

Removed info from the newest leaker as it's been debunked by some of the more credible info sources.

Added wave 1 of Studio series for 2022 per computer listings

Update 05/04 Added Prime Bulkhead and Optimus, G1 Insecticons, G1 Blitzwing and Straxus to the list.


Update 05/19, Moved Blaster to Kingdom. Shuffled Kingdom deluxes based on new info from jtprime.  Removed figures that have been officially revealed.


Update: 5/21 Removed the recent;y confirmed 86 and SG Characters.Gnaw, Wreck-gar, Slag and SG Starscream  Added Prime Arcee to Legacy 2022 list.  Moved Swoop to unkown line for now.  Added SS figures to list of rumors. Mainline Titans not dead. 

I'll update as I see more stuff.


Edited by TriBlurr, 07 June 2021 - 06:21 PM.

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Posted 21 February 2021 - 07:02 PM




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Posted 21 February 2021 - 07:36 PM

If we end up getting a new Motormaster, I'll eat...something edible that I don't mind eating, but won't be exactly thrilled about. Like a corn dog, or something. 

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Posted 21 February 2021 - 07:47 PM

G1 Blaster with modern engineering, heck ya.  The Cassette bots with him, even better. 

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Posted 21 February 2021 - 08:18 PM

I enjoy CW Motormaster, but it would be really cool to have a new toy of him that actually uses his original design. I do wonder what the limbs would be like if the torso is a leader - deluxe limbs like CW or Voyager?

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Posted 21 February 2021 - 08:22 PM

If he is leader class it could be a big voyager with all the combiner bits. Hands, feet etc.

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Posted 21 February 2021 - 08:24 PM

Well, 'leader' doesn't always mean what it used to, I could easily see something like TR Optimus as a tractor-trailer without a detachable trailer section, that compacts its largely hollow mass to become a robot or a torso.


Next rumor, the Stuticons/Harry Potter crossover, the Menasorting hat.

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Posted 21 February 2021 - 08:25 PM

I only picked up the G2 CW Stunticon set because I have the G1 originals, so I would be interested in how a new take turns out. That said, I would be more likely to bite on another G2 version of either Menasor or Defensor than on the normal G1 versions.

Thanks for keeping us updated on the rumors!


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Posted 21 February 2021 - 08:30 PM

Motormaster isn't the best torso so a second crack at that that is backwards compatible would be alright.

Pretty random though if we are now going to start redoing combiners.

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Posted 21 February 2021 - 08:39 PM

I enjoy CW Motormaster, but it would be really cool to have a new toy of him that actually uses his original design. I do wonder what the limbs would be like if the torso is a leader - deluxe limbs like CW or Voyager?

Menasor is one of those combiners that often looks like a single big bot with cars hanging off his limbs. I wonder if Motormasters arms and legs couldnt be made to fold out to form Menasor, and the other Stunticons just clip in. Sort of like a GoBot Power Suit, but with less suit? Wouldnt be a true Scramble City-style combination, but might be made to be more stable.

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Posted 21 February 2021 - 08:54 PM

I think the CW Motor Master suffered from a bunch of bad choices and a damand for it to be repainted and given a new head as Optimus prime thus include the iconic chest window desgin for him, the stuntacons on their own are desent but the combined mode is pretty much the weakest torso bot they made, the Dinobot combiner had a better torso with Grimlock, I even like Sky reign as a combiner!


Anyway, I hope Blaster is pretty much his G1 look and they do some of his partners, thou I do hope that none end up as apart of a Generations select pack, I felt like Soundwave's minons got shafted when they did that. The Dinobots I'll likely get, Coronation Starscream kind of has me curious, will it be ER SS with same paint job and new accessories or will it be a grey and black repaint so that we can recreate his death scene from 86 movie?


Tarantulas, not really sure, I not been a big fan of his first forms in BW, I much prefer his second form after he became transmetal.


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Posted 21 February 2021 - 08:55 PM

Anyway, I hope Blaster is pretty much his G1 look

Pretty sure you don't have to worry about that!

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Posted 21 February 2021 - 09:13 PM

Aren't the Transmetals molds gone by now or something?

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Posted 21 February 2021 - 09:58 PM

Just give us new Transmetals. I'd be 1000% ok with that!

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Posted 21 February 2021 - 10:02 PM

The Transmetals have got to be near the very top of my list of "every one of these would be a worse toy in virtually every measurable way if they made them now" figures.


Pretty much "no chrome" and, for people who care, "marginally more show-based faces".

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Posted 21 February 2021 - 10:15 PM

A new Transmetal Cheetor would have lips probably. I think there are enough strange engineering decisions in Kingdom Cheetor that would make perfect sense as pre-tools for the TM version. The side flaps, the extra joints in the cheetah forelegs, the tail, the mystery loincloth joint.

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Posted 21 February 2021 - 10:16 PM

Heh, 'just reissue TM Megatron without the GPS' has long been a fantasy of mine. Never dreamed they would actually do it, but we just got Prime Breakdown so who knows?


Combiner Wars really rushed things and ended up with a lot of repaints and weird choices, and they're so expensive on the aftermarket now, so doing them all over again but taking their time with things would be great. Movie Devastator got me interested in a Bruticus again, I'd love to have a Shuttle Blast Off from the start and a Swindle who turns into an actual thing.

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Posted 21 February 2021 - 10:20 PM

I'm ambivalent at best regarding this news. Just saying.

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Posted 21 February 2021 - 10:59 PM

The Transmetals have got to be near the very top of my list of "every one of these would be a worse toy in virtually every measurable way if they made them now" figures.


Pretty much "no chrome" and, for people who care, "marginally more show-based faces".

OK but how would they be worse?

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Posted 21 February 2021 - 11:18 PM

G1 Motormaster/Menasor



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