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@  TheMightyMol... : (17 May 2021 - 06:41 AM)

Like, in general, not going into specific bands or covers. Because I could point out plenty of repainted toys I didn't like as much as the original, too.

@  TheMightyMol... : (17 May 2021 - 06:39 AM)

Is a musician covering a song "fixing" it?

@  Nevermore : (17 May 2021 - 05:15 AM)

So, then, isn't redecoing or retooling an existing toy also "fixing" someone else's art?

@  PlutoniumBoss : (16 May 2021 - 10:07 PM)

A toy is not on the same level as a piece of drawn art, true, but it is 100% an entertainment product.

@  Nevermore : (16 May 2021 - 05:05 PM)

A toy is an object of utility, Comparing that to a piece of drawn art is grossly ignoring the difference between the two. Also, you didn't answer my questions. Try again.

@  PlutoniumBoss : (16 May 2021 - 04:25 PM)

Part of the difference is that those covers are primarily one person's art. Sure, you probably have an inker and a colorist, but the lines and composition are one person. A toy however is a team design at pretty much all levels.

@  Cyoti : (16 May 2021 - 03:52 PM)

toymaking is a collaborative process, you have to make compromises and factories are going to get things wrong

@  tigerhawk : (16 May 2021 - 03:43 PM)

Earthrise had a few holes, Runamuck's legs YIKES!

@  NotVeryKnightly : (16 May 2021 - 03:37 PM)

I doubt that say, the designer for Kingdom Cheetor was happy about every bit of unpainted plastic on it.

@  Bass X0 : (16 May 2021 - 03:28 PM)

J Scott Campbell recently had his Spiderman cover "fixed" by someone online. A few weeks ago, someone on twitter "fixed" someone's Sonic the Hedgehog fan art where Sonic, Tails and Knuckles were drawn as humans. Both times and other times, the "fixer" gets called out and criticised as you shouldn't go around "fixing" someone else's art because its rude and disrespectful to the original artist. And I was thinking isn't "fixed your s*** for ya" exactly what toy customisers do?

@  Nevermore : (16 May 2021 - 02:28 PM)

Have you ever changed your car in any way whatsoever compared to the factory configuration, or are you leaving the designer's art unchanged in that case as well?

@  CORVUS : (16 May 2021 - 02:28 PM)

It's best not to ponder it too hard.

@  Nevermore : (16 May 2021 - 04:16 AM)

Bass X0, I really wonder sometimes how you come up with these random tangents apropos of nothing.

@  PlutoniumBoss : (16 May 2021 - 04:11 AM)

It's collaborative art.

@  NotVeryKnightly : (16 May 2021 - 04:07 AM)

Toys are subject to budget constraints, so its not like customizing would ruin the designer's vision or whatever.

@  Bass X0 : (16 May 2021 - 03:38 AM)

Isn't customising a toy just "fixing other people's art"?

@  PlutoniumBoss : (16 May 2021 - 02:58 AM)

Oops, All Berries

@  Sabrblade : (16 May 2021 - 12:47 AM)

Nope, Chuck Berry

@  PlutoniumBoss : (15 May 2021 - 10:42 PM)

Nope, Chuck Testa.

@  Steevy Maximus : (15 May 2021 - 10:41 PM)

English needs to revive Chuck Finley in everyday text

@  Xero Prime : (15 May 2021 - 09:09 PM)

English needs to revive Mindy in everyday text.

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English needs to revive book in everyday text.

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English needs to revive Mook in everyday text

@  Steevy Maximus : (15 May 2021 - 03:42 PM)

English needs to revive Mork in everyday text

@  CORVUS : (15 May 2021 - 02:21 PM)

English needs to revive Morn in everyday text

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English needs to revive Gorn in everyday text

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English needs to revive Gore in everyday text

@  Bass X0 : (15 May 2021 - 09:45 AM)

English needs to revive Gort in everyday text

@  TheMightyMol... : (15 May 2021 - 06:52 AM)

English needs to revive bort in everyday text

@  Telly : (15 May 2021 - 01:12 AM)

English needs to revive bork in everyday text

@  NovaSaber : (15 May 2021 - 12:15 AM)

English needs to revive dork in everyday text.

@  Sabrblade : (14 May 2021 - 09:34 PM)

English needs to revive pork in everyday text.

@  PlutoniumBoss : (14 May 2021 - 09:26 PM)

English needs to revive porn in everyday text.

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English needs to revive Ģorn in everyday text.

@  Patch : (14 May 2021 - 05:53 PM)

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@  TheMightyMol... : (13 May 2021 - 04:41 PM)

Yeah, my hybrid does that when idling or at low speeds. Otherwise it's almost completely silent.

@  ZakuConvoy : (13 May 2021 - 02:27 PM)

That might actually be a fake noise they make electric cars make so pedestrians can hear them. Some cars even let you pick out what noise they make.

@  wonko the sane? : (13 May 2021 - 11:20 AM)

Actually heard a car with that electric, scifi-hum to it. Made me realize that we kinda are living in the future...

@  tigerhawk : (13 May 2021 - 03:28 AM)

Nearly thirty Studio Series figs including the '86 line. "I won't touch that." I said a few years ago when deluxe wave 5 came to my store for a tenner each. My latest one' is 72 Starscream.

@  Steevy Maximus : (10 May 2021 - 05:22 PM)

God, it's such a pain to have a local email address shut down. So many accounts to update...

@  Bass X0 : (10 May 2021 - 04:43 PM)

"Let's make a bargain, shall we? You ask Primus for help and I'll stop the moment He shows up."

@  tigerhawk : (10 May 2021 - 02:56 AM)

The 1988 G1 line up could all have been done as Titan Master things, I figure the Pretenders could be done as Titan Master Drones and Prime Master shells.

@  Cyoti : (08 May 2021 - 11:14 AM)

Perfect is the enemy of the good. And it's still better than making him a remold of RTS Jazz as planned originally. Fact of the matter is: Nightbeat is just not a priority with Hasbro.


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#221 NOIP

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Posted 13 April 2021 - 09:53 PM

10 year old me would have gone nuts for a Phantom of the Opera Transformer.

49 year old me would still go for that.


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Posted 13 April 2021 - 10:57 PM

Which one? Lon Chaney, or Michael Crawford? Surely not Herbert Lom? ;)


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Posted 13 April 2021 - 11:06 PM

Lon Chaney. Of course. :)
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Posted 13 April 2021 - 11:09 PM

The Claude Rains version has all the character info-dumps but the Herbert Lom one has all the Furmanisms, so pick your poison.


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Posted 13 April 2021 - 11:42 PM

If they did Gerard Butler, they can reuse the tooling for a Leônidas

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Posted 14 April 2021 - 08:03 AM

If they did Gerard Butler, they can reuse the tooling for a Leônidas

That's madness!


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Posted 14 April 2021 - 02:33 PM

THIS! IS! THE! OPERA!


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Posted 14 April 2021 - 07:53 PM

The Claude Rains version has all the character info-dumps but the Herbert Lom one has all the Furmanisms, so pick your poison.

The Claude Rains version looks like my "definitive" Phantom so let's go with that. He can transform into a boat.


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Posted 14 April 2021 - 09:57 PM

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Posted 23 April 2021 - 04:03 PM

Small update on the 2022 "Legacy" Menasor.

The four limbs will supposedly be spread out between the 4 deluxe waves with Motormaster in wave 3 as either Leader or Commander class. Breakdown supposedly in wave 1. Classic Stunticon lineup, with Wildrider, no Offroad or Blackjack.

Info comes from the same guy who posted the big info dump awhile back. Some of which has materialized such as the Pulse Exclusive Shattered Glass line.

Still Grains of salt until we have officially listings or reveals.

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Posted 23 April 2021 - 04:25 PM

I'm honestly most excited about SS86 Starscream, which is merely a (possible?) retool of ER Starscream with crown, cape, shoulder pads and throne at the $50 price point.

I am such a sucker.

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Posted 23 April 2021 - 06:10 PM

Only Earthrise seeker in my possession is Sandstorm, but I'd be getting a starscream like that if it existed.
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Posted 23 April 2021 - 07:03 PM

Classic Stunticon lineup, with Wildrider, no Offroad or Blackjack.

 

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Posted 23 April 2021 - 07:14 PM

Yeah clarification, Motormaster is looking like it's Commander class.

Which I'm fine with if it means better torso mode and combiner hands and feet.

Also he's heard rumblings of a second wave of SG Figures after the current set. Nothing substantial yet though.

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Posted 23 April 2021 - 07:19 PM

I'm honestly most excited about SS86 Starscream, which is merely a (possible?) retool of ER Starscream with crown, cape, shoulder pads and throne at the $50 price point.

I am such a sucker.

 

I'm morbidly curious what they could do with SS86 Starscream to make me buy him again.

 

Because the crown and cape would not do it, but I know myself, and I'm too much of a mark to say nothing could.

 

 

 

Yeah clarification, Motormaster is looking like it's Commander class.

Which I'm fine with if it means better torso mode and combiner hands and feet.

 

If Motormaster comes with stuff to parts-form an actually decent combiner, that would definitely make it worth the Commander price point for me.

 

(Not you, Rodimus, you still feel like a bit of a rip)


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Posted 23 April 2021 - 08:07 PM

 

I'm honestly most excited about SS86 Starscream, which is merely a (possible?) retool of ER Starscream with crown, cape, shoulder pads and throne at the $50 price point.

I am such a sucker.

 

I'm morbidly curious what they could do with SS86 Starscream to make me buy him again.

 

Because the crown and cape would not do it, but I know myself, and I'm too much of a mark to say nothing could.

 

 

 

Yeah clarification, Motormaster is looking like it's Commander class.

Which I'm fine with if it means better torso mode and combiner hands and feet.

 

If Motormaster comes with stuff to parts-form an actually decent combiner, that would definitely make it worth the Commander price point for me.

 

(Not you, Rodimus, you still feel like a bit of a rip)

 

At this point I just want a Motormaster with an accurate Transformation, and not just repaint Optimus. That'd be worrth Commander price alone.


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Posted 23 April 2021 - 08:10 PM

Starscream will consist of a crown, and a small pile of dust.

 

I don't know about Motormaster/Menasor, I'd need to see how it turns out and if there are any hidden 'self-destruct' features.  With the QC as of late, I'm hoping they'd be reasonably sturdy, but if they incorporate clear plastics into the joints at 'large combiner' scale, you know how that will wind up and a lot of the cars have had the clear parts cause issues lately.



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Posted 23 April 2021 - 08:50 PM

Going both by show scale and by being the body to go with Deluxe limbs, Motormaster should be about Voyager-sized.

Even if he comes with all the combiner parts, that would still make him one of the less-worth-it Leaders.

 

If he's a Commander it's even more ridiculous than Rodimus being one.



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Posted 23 April 2021 - 10:27 PM

Starscream will consist of a crown, and a small pile of dust.

 

Come to think of it, they just did an all-grey Optimus, so an all-grey Starscream is a distinct possibility.

 

 

Going both by show scale and by being the body to go with Deluxe limbs, Motormaster should be about Voyager-sized.

Even if he comes with all the combiner parts, that would still make him one of the less-worth-it Leaders.

 

If he's a Commander it's even more ridiculous than Rodimus being one.

 

There's the trailer to consider too. If MM came with that and some decent combiner parts, I could see that being worth it. Or at least closer to worth it.


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#240 NovaSaber

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Posted 23 April 2021 - 11:07 PM

Motormaster's G1 robot mode and combiner body mode already incorporate the trailer.





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