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@  TheMightyMol... : (17 May 2021 - 06:41 AM)

Like, in general, not going into specific bands or covers. Because I could point out plenty of repainted toys I didn't like as much as the original, too.

@  TheMightyMol... : (17 May 2021 - 06:39 AM)

Is a musician covering a song "fixing" it?

@  Nevermore : (17 May 2021 - 05:15 AM)

So, then, isn't redecoing or retooling an existing toy also "fixing" someone else's art?

@  PlutoniumBoss : (16 May 2021 - 10:07 PM)

A toy is not on the same level as a piece of drawn art, true, but it is 100% an entertainment product.

@  Nevermore : (16 May 2021 - 05:05 PM)

A toy is an object of utility, Comparing that to a piece of drawn art is grossly ignoring the difference between the two. Also, you didn't answer my questions. Try again.

@  PlutoniumBoss : (16 May 2021 - 04:25 PM)

Part of the difference is that those covers are primarily one person's art. Sure, you probably have an inker and a colorist, but the lines and composition are one person. A toy however is a team design at pretty much all levels.

@  Cyoti : (16 May 2021 - 03:52 PM)

toymaking is a collaborative process, you have to make compromises and factories are going to get things wrong

@  tigerhawk : (16 May 2021 - 03:43 PM)

Earthrise had a few holes, Runamuck's legs YIKES!

@  NotVeryKnightly : (16 May 2021 - 03:37 PM)

I doubt that say, the designer for Kingdom Cheetor was happy about every bit of unpainted plastic on it.

@  Bass X0 : (16 May 2021 - 03:28 PM)

J Scott Campbell recently had his Spiderman cover "fixed" by someone online. A few weeks ago, someone on twitter "fixed" someone's Sonic the Hedgehog fan art where Sonic, Tails and Knuckles were drawn as humans. Both times and other times, the "fixer" gets called out and criticised as you shouldn't go around "fixing" someone else's art because its rude and disrespectful to the original artist. And I was thinking isn't "fixed your s*** for ya" exactly what toy customisers do?

@  Nevermore : (16 May 2021 - 02:28 PM)

Have you ever changed your car in any way whatsoever compared to the factory configuration, or are you leaving the designer's art unchanged in that case as well?

@  CORVUS : (16 May 2021 - 02:28 PM)

It's best not to ponder it too hard.

@  Nevermore : (16 May 2021 - 04:16 AM)

Bass X0, I really wonder sometimes how you come up with these random tangents apropos of nothing.

@  PlutoniumBoss : (16 May 2021 - 04:11 AM)

It's collaborative art.

@  NotVeryKnightly : (16 May 2021 - 04:07 AM)

Toys are subject to budget constraints, so its not like customizing would ruin the designer's vision or whatever.

@  Bass X0 : (16 May 2021 - 03:38 AM)

Isn't customising a toy just "fixing other people's art"?

@  PlutoniumBoss : (16 May 2021 - 02:58 AM)

Oops, All Berries

@  Sabrblade : (16 May 2021 - 12:47 AM)

Nope, Chuck Berry

@  PlutoniumBoss : (15 May 2021 - 10:42 PM)

Nope, Chuck Testa.

@  Steevy Maximus : (15 May 2021 - 10:41 PM)

English needs to revive Chuck Finley in everyday text

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English needs to revive Mindy in everyday text.

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English needs to revive book in everyday text.

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English needs to revive Mook in everyday text

@  Steevy Maximus : (15 May 2021 - 03:42 PM)

English needs to revive Mork in everyday text

@  CORVUS : (15 May 2021 - 02:21 PM)

English needs to revive Morn in everyday text

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English needs to revive Gorn in everyday text

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English needs to revive Gore in everyday text

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English needs to revive Gort in everyday text

@  TheMightyMol... : (15 May 2021 - 06:52 AM)

English needs to revive bort in everyday text

@  Telly : (15 May 2021 - 01:12 AM)

English needs to revive bork in everyday text

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English needs to revive dork in everyday text.

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English needs to revive pork in everyday text.

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English needs to revive porn in everyday text.

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@  Patch : (14 May 2021 - 05:53 PM)

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@  TheMightyMol... : (13 May 2021 - 04:41 PM)

Yeah, my hybrid does that when idling or at low speeds. Otherwise it's almost completely silent.

@  ZakuConvoy : (13 May 2021 - 02:27 PM)

That might actually be a fake noise they make electric cars make so pedestrians can hear them. Some cars even let you pick out what noise they make.

@  wonko the sane? : (13 May 2021 - 11:20 AM)

Actually heard a car with that electric, scifi-hum to it. Made me realize that we kinda are living in the future...

@  tigerhawk : (13 May 2021 - 03:28 AM)

Nearly thirty Studio Series figs including the '86 line. "I won't touch that." I said a few years ago when deluxe wave 5 came to my store for a tenner each. My latest one' is 72 Starscream.

@  Steevy Maximus : (10 May 2021 - 05:22 PM)

God, it's such a pain to have a local email address shut down. So many accounts to update...

@  Bass X0 : (10 May 2021 - 04:43 PM)

"Let's make a bargain, shall we? You ask Primus for help and I'll stop the moment He shows up."

@  tigerhawk : (10 May 2021 - 02:56 AM)

The 1988 G1 line up could all have been done as Titan Master things, I figure the Pretenders could be done as Titan Master Drones and Prime Master shells.

@  Cyoti : (08 May 2021 - 11:14 AM)

Perfect is the enemy of the good. And it's still better than making him a remold of RTS Jazz as planned originally. Fact of the matter is: Nightbeat is just not a priority with Hasbro.


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#1 TriBlurr

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Posted 21 February 2021 - 06:59 PM

Thought I'd make a seperate thread rather than bog down the Kingdom thread.

Figured a catch all thread would be a good idea. I'll try and update this post as things are either leaked, rumored, revealed or disproven.

Will change title when we know name of next year's line.

These are at this time, just rumors. So grains of salt as always.

Generations 2021/2022 Rumors/Listings

2021

Kingdom

Deluxe Waspinator
Deluxe Slammer
Deluxe Shadow Panther
Deluxe Pipes
Voyager Tigatron
Voyager Starscream (ER Repack)

Exclusives

Target:
Deluxe Road Rage
Leader T-Wrecks
World's Collide 4 Pack

Walgreens:
Deluxe Red Alert

Amazon/Battle Across Time
Deluxe Sideswipe & Nightprowler or Skywarp
Deluxe Mirage & Voyager Grimlock

Amazon/Golden Disk Collection
Deluxe Terrorsaur
Deluxe Road Ranger and Puffer
Deluxe Jackpot
Voyager Tigatron

Hasbro Pulse/Shattered Glass
Deluxe Blurr
Deluxe Goldbug
Voyager Megatron
Voyager Starscream
Commander Jetfire

Generations Selects
Voyager Artfire
Leader Galvatron (Toy Colors)

Line Unknown
Galvatron Unicron Pack/Reformatting Deco
Prime Optimus Prime - Weird Listing.


Studio Series 2021

Deluxe 86 Gnaw
Deluxe ROTF Sideswipe
Deluxe ROTF Jolt
Deluxe ROTF Bumblebee and Sam
Voyager BB Thrust
Voyager 86 Wreck-Gar
Voyager 86 Sweep
Leader 86 Slag with Daniel
Leader ROTF Grindor with Ravage

Exclusives:
Voyager BB Skywarp
Voyager BB Thundercracker
Voyager BB Red Wing
Voyager BB Sunstorm

2022

Legacy Trilogy: Evolution (working Title)

Deluxe Breakdown
Deluxe Dragstrip
Deluxe Wildrider
Deluxe Dead End
Deluxe Skids
Voyager Blaster
Leader Straxus
Leader Blitzwing
Commander Motormaster
Tarantulas
Prime Bulkhead
Prime Optimus


Studio Series 2022

Deluxe BB Brawn
Deluxe BB Wheeljack
Deluxe BB Ratchet
Deluxe 86 Perceptor
Deluxe ROTF Sideways
Voyager 86 Swoop
Voyager 86 Junkyard
Voyager BB Soundwave
Voyager AOE Evasion Optimus Prime
Voyager TLK Megatron
Leader 86 King Starscream

Line unknown
G1 Snarl
G1 Sludge
G1 Shrapnel
G1 Bombshell
G1 Kickback

Collaboration/Crossovers

Project Park - Jurassic Park - Kingdom Megatron redeco
Project Bat - Dracula/Universal Monsters - Mindwipe retool
Project Jam - Collab with real band - 2022 Blaster Retool

Additional Info

Theme is more like Thrilling 30. Characters from varied eras.
Strong lean on G1 and BW in light of high performance of early Kingdom and Studio 86 sales.
Some UT characters mixed in as well.

Combiners not an overlying theme. Might be one a year. Menasor up first. Defensor may follow in 2023, still early development.

Update: 04/03/2021

Apollux (our original Kingdom leaker) has mentioned that G1 Skids is also on the list of potential releases for 2022.

The theme and possible name for the new trilogy starting in 2022 is Legacy. Which will build up to the 40th anniversary of the brand in 2024....Christ I feel old.

Removed the vintage bw stuff as that now exists and has its own discussion threads.
 
Update 04/26/2021
 
Part one of the new Trilogy is called Evolution (working title)
So if it follows the WFC model. Itll be Transformers Legacy Trilogy: Evolution

Update 05/03/2021

Removed info from the newest leaker as it's been debunked by some of the more credible info sources.

Added wave 1 of Studio series for 2022 per computer listings

Update 05/04 Added Prime Bulkhead and Optimus, G1 Insecticons, G1 Blitzwing and Straxus to the list.

I'll update as I see more stuff.

Cheers

Edited by TriBlurr, 06 May 2021 - 06:25 PM.


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Posted 21 February 2021 - 07:02 PM

Mmmmmm....salt.



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Posted 21 February 2021 - 07:36 PM

If we end up getting a new Motormaster, I'll eat...something edible that I don't mind eating, but won't be exactly thrilled about. Like a corn dog, or something. 


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Posted 21 February 2021 - 07:47 PM

G1 Blaster with modern engineering, heck ya.  The Cassette bots with him, even better. 



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Posted 21 February 2021 - 08:18 PM

I enjoy CW Motormaster, but it would be really cool to have a new toy of him that actually uses his original design. I do wonder what the limbs would be like if the torso is a leader - deluxe limbs like CW or Voyager?

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Posted 21 February 2021 - 08:22 PM

If he is leader class it could be a big voyager with all the combiner bits. Hands, feet etc.



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Posted 21 February 2021 - 08:24 PM

Well, 'leader' doesn't always mean what it used to, I could easily see something like TR Optimus as a tractor-trailer without a detachable trailer section, that compacts its largely hollow mass to become a robot or a torso.

 

Next rumor, the Stuticons/Harry Potter crossover, the Menasorting hat.



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Posted 21 February 2021 - 08:25 PM

I only picked up the G2 CW Stunticon set because I have the G1 originals, so I would be interested in how a new take turns out. That said, I would be more likely to bite on another G2 version of either Menasor or Defensor than on the normal G1 versions.

Thanks for keeping us updated on the rumors!

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Posted 21 February 2021 - 08:30 PM

Motormaster isn't the best torso so a second crack at that that is backwards compatible would be alright.

Pretty random though if we are now going to start redoing combiners.
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Posted 21 February 2021 - 08:39 PM

I enjoy CW Motormaster, but it would be really cool to have a new toy of him that actually uses his original design. I do wonder what the limbs would be like if the torso is a leader - deluxe limbs like CW or Voyager?


Menasor is one of those combiners that often looks like a single big bot with cars hanging off his limbs. I wonder if Motormasters arms and legs couldnt be made to fold out to form Menasor, and the other Stunticons just clip in. Sort of like a GoBot Power Suit, but with less suit? Wouldnt be a true Scramble City-style combination, but might be made to be more stable.

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Posted 21 February 2021 - 08:54 PM

I think the CW Motor Master suffered from a bunch of bad choices and a damand for it to be repainted and given a new head as Optimus prime thus include the iconic chest window desgin for him, the stuntacons on their own are desent but the combined mode is pretty much the weakest torso bot they made, the Dinobot combiner had a better torso with Grimlock, I even like Sky reign as a combiner!

 

Anyway, I hope Blaster is pretty much his G1 look and they do some of his partners, thou I do hope that none end up as apart of a Generations select pack, I felt like Soundwave's minons got shafted when they did that. The Dinobots I'll likely get, Coronation Starscream kind of has me curious, will it be ER SS with same paint job and new accessories or will it be a grey and black repaint so that we can recreate his death scene from 86 movie?

 

Tarantulas, not really sure, I not been a big fan of his first forms in BW, I much prefer his second form after he became transmetal.


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Posted 21 February 2021 - 08:55 PM

Anyway, I hope Blaster is pretty much his G1 look


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Posted 21 February 2021 - 09:13 PM

Aren't the Transmetals molds gone by now or something?


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Posted 21 February 2021 - 09:58 PM

Just give us new Transmetals. I'd be 1000% ok with that!

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Posted 21 February 2021 - 10:02 PM

The Transmetals have got to be near the very top of my list of "every one of these would be a worse toy in virtually every measurable way if they made them now" figures.

 

Pretty much "no chrome" and, for people who care, "marginally more show-based faces".



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Posted 21 February 2021 - 10:15 PM

A new Transmetal Cheetor would have lips probably. I think there are enough strange engineering decisions in Kingdom Cheetor that would make perfect sense as pre-tools for the TM version. The side flaps, the extra joints in the cheetah forelegs, the tail, the mystery loincloth joint.

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Posted 21 February 2021 - 10:16 PM

Heh, 'just reissue TM Megatron without the GPS' has long been a fantasy of mine. Never dreamed they would actually do it, but we just got Prime Breakdown so who knows?

 

Combiner Wars really rushed things and ended up with a lot of repaints and weird choices, and they're so expensive on the aftermarket now, so doing them all over again but taking their time with things would be great. Movie Devastator got me interested in a Bruticus again, I'd love to have a Shuttle Blast Off from the start and a Swindle who turns into an actual thing.



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Posted 21 February 2021 - 10:20 PM

I'm ambivalent at best regarding this news. Just saying.


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Posted 21 February 2021 - 10:59 PM

The Transmetals have got to be near the very top of my list of "every one of these would be a worse toy in virtually every measurable way if they made them now" figures.

 

Pretty much "no chrome" and, for people who care, "marginally more show-based faces".

OK but how would they be worse?



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Posted 21 February 2021 - 11:18 PM

G1 Motormaster/Menasor

 

 

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