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@  Maximus Ambus : (12 August 2020 - 12:37 AM)

Sour grapes for the next decade until Apophis hits.

@  Hg Dragon : (11 August 2020 - 11:26 PM)

Thank yoo for vatching hydroolic pthress chan-nel.

@  Hg Dragon : (11 August 2020 - 11:19 PM)

Hey, do you have any grapes?

@  Otaku : (11 August 2020 - 05:18 PM)

I dunno... it sounds kind of quackers to me.

@  -LittleAutob... : (11 August 2020 - 05:17 PM)

That would be nice....

@  TheMightyMol... : (11 August 2020 - 04:36 PM)

I wish I could just sit by a pond and watch ducks for a while.

@  Maximus Ambus : (11 August 2020 - 03:52 AM)

Others say Joe sat down at this pond next to these ducks but really there's just no place in this world for an old man and his ducks.

@  Nevermore : (10 August 2020 - 06:48 PM)

Even worse when I can produce those verifiable facts at a later point, and then the other person simply claims the argument was the other way round (as in, I was actually arguing their position and vice versa).

@  Nevermore : (10 August 2020 - 06:47 PM)

I can argue with people about my versus their memory of events when verifiable facts are not readily available, though, and I get really annoyed when I'm capable of presenting a precise, step-by-step summary with multiple key points that can be used for future verification, and the other person just goes "nope, wrong" without going into detail.

@  Nevermore : (10 August 2020 - 06:45 PM)

I forget things, and I misremember things. But when presented with verifiable facts, my reaction is more like "Huh, could have sworn it was like that", not "this reality is not my own".

@  Nevermore : (10 August 2020 - 06:43 PM)

I have an extremely good memory (which I have proven time and again), and even I can be mistaken.

@  NotVeryKnightly : (10 August 2020 - 06:40 PM)

Might be worth pointing out that it only became "Mandela Effect" and not just "I remembered this wrong" when a conspiracy theorist insisted it was proof of alternate timelines.

@  Otaku : (10 August 2020 - 06:29 PM)

Incorrectly remembering Nelson Mandela's fate may be uniquely American... but is it really that strange to get South African political history wrong when you're no where near South Africa?

@  Otaku : (10 August 2020 - 06:29 PM)

I always assumed the Mandela Effect was a "human thing", not an American thing.

@  wonko the sane? : (10 August 2020 - 02:03 PM)

Then there are people who outright manufacture memories for whatever reason.

@  PlutoniumBoss : (10 August 2020 - 01:13 PM)

The human brain is so flaky that it is extremely unlikely that a given person does NOT have any false memories.

@  OverDrive73 : (10 August 2020 - 01:05 PM)

Perhaps it's simple word association the movie Sinbad and then our minds apply the same memories to a man named Sinbad.

@  OverDrive73 : (10 August 2020 - 01:04 PM)

The Mandela Effect is the same as people remembering Sinbad in a movie where he played a genie... Of which he never did.

@  MidnightFox : (10 August 2020 - 09:36 AM)

People that believe Mandela Effect things would rather come up with any number of reasons as to why their version doesn't have any actual evidence(like alternate timelines collapsing into our own) than just admit they remembered something wrong

@  MidnightFox : (10 August 2020 - 09:35 AM)

Sort of. It's more that when presented with a verifiable fact, they double down because it's what they believe instead of changing their minds

@  ▲ndrusi : (10 August 2020 - 09:25 AM)

"I could have sworn that ______."

@  ▲ndrusi : (10 August 2020 - 09:25 AM)

I'm not arguing with either of those two statements, but they're not really connected. Mandela Effect is, to oversimplify, people being widely mistaken about what they think *is* a verifiable fact. Nothing to do with opinions.

@  MidnightFox : (10 August 2020 - 08:52 AM)

Pretty sure the Mandela Effect in general is an American thing. Opinion > Verifiable Facts is sadly a pretty American thing

@  Nevermore : (10 August 2020 - 04:27 AM)

Ask these people how Apartheid ended according to their recollection, and I'm sure they'll draw a blank.

@  Nevermore : (10 August 2020 - 04:25 AM)

You got two black anti-Apartheid activists who were imprisoned by the oppressive regime. One died, the other was Nelson Mandela. It's not a far stretch that Americans who don't know many details about the history of other countries would mix up the two.

@  Nevermore : (10 August 2020 - 04:24 AM)

My own theory is that these people are simply mixing up Nelson Mandela and Steve Biko, another South African anti-Apartheid activist, who did indeed die in police custody in 1977. There was an Oscar-nominated movie about his life starring Denzel Washington that came out in 1987, the same time frame these people claim remembering Mandela dying.

@  Nevermore : (10 August 2020 - 04:17 AM)

I met a few people from South Africa, and they either never heard of the phenomenon at all, or only know of it from the internet. Apparently, it's completely unknown in South Africa, and it might even be entirely limited to the United States.

@  Nevermore : (10 August 2020 - 04:16 AM)

So does anyone remember the "Mandela Effect"? I'm talking specifically about the original case where many people vividly remember Nelson Mandela dying in prison in the 1980s.

@  Tm_Silverclaw : (10 August 2020 - 03:16 AM)

Crisis of Corona.

@  TheMightyMol... : (09 August 2020 - 06:16 PM)

Which crisis crossover are we on now? I lost track.

@  Rycochet : (09 August 2020 - 05:18 PM)

Much of the past decade has been the part of the comic series where less than stellar authors have driven the series into the ground and the editors are getting ready to either do a big multi issue crossover, leading to a reboot.

@  Bass X0 : (09 August 2020 - 02:28 PM)

At this point I've just decided to consider 2020 "not canon."

@  TheMightyMol... : (09 August 2020 - 02:18 PM)

'member Pepperidge Farm?

@  Maximus Ambus : (09 August 2020 - 02:10 PM)

Before the 'member berries there was Pepperidge farm. Pepperidge farm remembers.

@  OverDrive73 : (09 August 2020 - 12:21 PM)

>>>Shameless Plug<<< FYI. posted the last part of Quest for Tires in Allspark Pictures

@  SG Roadbuster : (08 August 2020 - 01:53 PM)

@Nevermore yes.

@  Nevermore : (08 August 2020 - 09:11 AM)

Is $30 a good deal for Subscription Service Breakdown?

@  Trpodeca : (08 August 2020 - 06:24 AM)

Oh dear God no. Twitter has changed it's default layout to the terrible new one. Why waste so much space on the left?

@  Steevy Maximus : (07 August 2020 - 08:28 PM)

@Bass X0, yeah, the Joe comic got REALLY solid in the upper 20s to the Cobra Civil War. It's interesting to see how well the Joe comic has aged relative to the cartoon. Where as I feel the opposite is true of Transformers

@  -LittleAutob... : (07 August 2020 - 03:58 PM)

Its so fun watching past TF Conventions.

@  Bass X0 : (07 August 2020 - 02:20 PM)

I've been reading classic 80s G.I. Joe lately. Its still decent even though I don't have any nostalgia towards it.

@  Sabrblade : (07 August 2020 - 08:50 AM)

Think of it as Adam West Batman instead. ;)

@  wonko the sane? : (07 August 2020 - 07:49 AM)

That sounds more like the flash, or maybe booster gold than batman.

@  Sabrblade : (07 August 2020 - 12:27 AM)

They would get bored fighting each other and instead decide to take an epic cross-country road trip together.

@  RichardT1977 : (06 August 2020 - 08:57 PM)

What would happen if Batman were to fight Squirrel Girl?

@  PlutoniumBoss : (04 August 2020 - 09:03 PM)

Unless you count the Mask vs Lobo special, but that's less a duel and more a duet.

@  PlutoniumBoss : (04 August 2020 - 08:52 PM)

My favorite crossover fight was Thor vs Shazam/Captain Marvel. Early in the fight, Thor discovers that Billy Batson needs lightning to transform, and being a god of lightning he simply denies him that.

@  Sabrblade : (04 August 2020 - 08:46 PM)

Let's see a fight between Death Battle and Super Power Beat Down

@  TheMightyMol... : (04 August 2020 - 06:15 PM)

Which Lobo later claimed was because he was paid to take a dive. Yes, really.

@  TheMightyMol... : (04 August 2020 - 06:15 PM)

And then there's the times it's been decided by a fan vote, which is how we get things like Lobo (who can go toe-to-toe with Superman at full strength) losing to Wolverine.


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#41 Sean Whitmore

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Posted 25 June 2020 - 04:55 PM

Being a Walmart exclusive is the end of it for me. Whether or not I could garner enough enthusiasm to pick these up was predicated on being able to actually SEE them.


 


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#42 TheMightyMollusk

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Posted 25 June 2020 - 07:28 PM

So will the stores near me get ten cases and sit on them for a year or so, or will they be among the stores that don't get any at all? Walmart sucks at distributing exclusives.



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Posted 25 June 2020 - 09:08 PM

I can't imagine these will last long honestly.

Whether your opinion is these are good or bad (I like the sculpts and articulation). I can't imagine them lasting more than a wave or two. I'd be surprised if we are ever talking about wave four or five.

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Posted 25 June 2020 - 09:10 PM

These were an easy pass for me, but then Cheetor and Arcee piqued my interests, now they're Walmart exclusives? I don't think mine is allowed to put more then three Transformers on the shelves at a time.



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Posted 25 June 2020 - 10:10 PM

While the Netflix ones may have been spotty I think Walmarts as a rule have been pretty good with the reissue line.

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Posted 25 June 2020 - 10:20 PM

The larger ones, yes. Almost none of the minibots ever showed around here though.

On the good side,these don't really interest me.
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Posted 26 June 2020 - 06:19 AM

I've seen a picture of Soundwave which seemed to be uploaded in error and quickly taken down and I didn't save, sorry.

 

But it looked like you'd expect really. More towards the Megatron quality level than the Prime end. His tape deck opened and a Lazerbeak tape was included, though presumably doesn't transform.



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Posted 26 June 2020 - 06:26 AM

Soundwave:
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Posted 26 June 2020 - 07:58 AM

I think these do look great, I just don't know why they exist.

I imagine who ever they are designed for will like them.
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Posted 26 June 2020 - 08:01 AM


I just realized what I want from this line:

Beast Machines Jetstorm and Botanica


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Posted 26 June 2020 - 08:05 AM

I would say that was impossible, but with Cheetor there, you never know.
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Posted 26 June 2020 - 08:11 AM


Extremely unlikely. I admit. But with Cheetor and Prime Arcee there, not impossible.

-ZacWilliam, it's honestly probably more likely than my other wish which would be Pretender Shells.
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Posted 26 June 2020 - 10:15 AM

Is this the line we get Season 3 Sari as a figure?

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Posted 26 June 2020 - 02:50 PM

Really not getting the complaining in here. As far as I'm concerned, there's a logical gap for a line doing robot modes justice without the handicap of transforming. And as for this idea these should be used to supplement the transforming figures by simply being a line to do characters who would be hard to make transform anyway...why? Why can't we let this line be its own thing? Why is it only valid if it exists to plug holes in existing collections?

Sometimes I really don't get this fandom.

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Posted 26 June 2020 - 03:17 PM

I love the gimmick of transformation. I love to marvel at the engineering that goes into these figures, and nothing is as satisfying as when the engineering is so well done that the transformation is intuitive while still resulting in two (or more!) cohesive modes. 

 

Still, I also really really love the character designs in this franchise and I'm super excited for a line that faithfully recreates those character designs. I can't wait to see Cheetor and Arcee, and I'm likely to get any and all figures they release in this line. 

 

I have a lot of figures that transform, and there's no shortage of new transforming figures coming out. I'm perfectly happy to enjoy all those figures and this R.E.D. line at the same time. There's no reason to compare them or hold them to the same standards as each other. 



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Posted 26 June 2020 - 04:01 PM

Really not getting the complaining in here. As far as I'm concerned, there's a logical gap for a line doing robot modes justice without the handicap of transforming. And as for this idea these should be used to supplement the transforming figures by simply being a line to do characters who would be hard to make transform anyway...why? Why can't we let this line be its own thing? Why is it only valid if it exists to plug holes in existing collections?

Sometimes I really don't get this fandom.


Agreed.

The line should be free to leave everything else behind and blaze its own creative path, offering bold new versions of :checks notes:
Sunbow G1 Megatron, Sunbow G1 Optimus, Sunbow G1 Soundwave...

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Posted 26 June 2020 - 04:02 PM

Really not getting the complaining in here. As far as I'm concerned, there's a logical gap for a line doing robot modes justice without the handicap of transforming. And as for this idea these should be used to supplement the transforming figures by simply being a line to do characters who would be hard to make transform anyway...why? Why can't we let this line be its own thing? Why is it only valid if it exists to plug holes in existing collections?

Sometimes I really don't get this fandom.

Agreed.

The line should be free to leave everything else behind and blaze its own creative path, offering bold new versions of :checks notes:
Sunbow G1 Megatron, Sunbow G1 Optimus, Sunbow G1 Soundwave...

Yeah, we've gotten enough Prime Arcee's already. Give us someething we haven't seen in awhile! :)

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Posted 26 June 2020 - 05:42 PM

As someone who gets often disappointed on not being about to afford statues (or if I did budget for them, I know my legendary luck would have it broken in some way after a week), this is pretty much a budget statue for me.     I can have it out, it can fall down and it's built to take the fall.  It's something I can take to work and be relatively okay with leaving it there. 

 

Also, I really really want this to continue so we can finally get some 6" Humans in here.    Spike, Sparkplug, Carly, Dr. Archeville, a 6" inch version of Bludgeon Pretender shell.    Heck, maybe because Hasbro is buddy buddy with Marvel they could even do a Circuit Breaker.    Thing is, they have to make sure it gets money and we might be able to get more things that have been featured in Transformers that weren't Transformers.   I'd love a multipack of different colored Kreemzeeks (with random WFC compatible "sparks" posts).


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Posted 26 June 2020 - 07:16 PM

Comparison with the Marvel models:
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Posted 27 June 2020 - 12:00 AM

Really not getting the complaining in here. As far as I'm concerned, there's a logical gap for a line doing robot modes justice without the handicap of transforming. And as for this idea these should be used to supplement the transforming figures by simply being a line to do characters who would be hard to make transform anyway...why? Why can't we let this line be its own thing? Why is it only valid if it exists to plug holes in existing collections?

Sometimes I really don't get this fandom.

Agreed.

The line should be free to leave everything else behind and blaze its own creative path, offering bold new versions of :checks notes:
Sunbow G1 Megatron, Sunbow G1 Optimus, Sunbow G1 Soundwave...

Way to twist my point.

A line like this is naturally going to in part include the heavy hitters. It's how these kind of lines overall work, since part of their existence is brand awareness. They're designed partly to advertise to customers how diverse the franchise is, a fact backed by the leaked inclusion of Cheetor and Arcee. Hasbro are doing similar with their Power Rangers toys and Bandai are trying it with Gundam Universe. That line naturally opened with the original Gundam but the selection has been diverse, complete with the packaging giving you a backstory including the show title and release year so you can look into it further.

This is how lines like this work. I recall World of Springfield being praised for spacing the Simpsons out over waves. Not just making them wave one and leaving the line to die due to it then just being the secondary cast.



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