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@  TheMightyMol... : (09 August 2020 - 06:16 PM)

Which crisis crossover are we on now? I lost track.

@  Rycochet : (09 August 2020 - 05:18 PM)

Much of the past decade has been the part of the comic series where less than stellar authors have driven the series into the ground and the editors are getting ready to either do a big multi issue crossover, leading to a reboot.

@  Bass X0 : (09 August 2020 - 02:28 PM)

At this point I've just decided to consider 2020 "not canon."

@  TheMightyMol... : (09 August 2020 - 02:18 PM)

'member Pepperidge Farm?

@  Maximus Ambus : (09 August 2020 - 02:10 PM)

Before the 'member berries there was Pepperidge farm. Pepperidge farm remembers.

@  OverDrive73 : (09 August 2020 - 12:21 PM)

>>>Shameless Plug<<< FYI. posted the last part of Quest for Tires in Allspark Pictures

@  SG Roadbuster : (08 August 2020 - 01:53 PM)

@Nevermore yes.

@  Nevermore : (08 August 2020 - 09:11 AM)

Is $30 a good deal for Subscription Service Breakdown?

@  Trpodeca : (08 August 2020 - 06:24 AM)

Oh dear God no. Twitter has changed it's default layout to the terrible new one. Why waste so much space on the left?

@  Steevy Maximus : (07 August 2020 - 08:28 PM)

@Bass X0, yeah, the Joe comic got REALLY solid in the upper 20s to the Cobra Civil War. It's interesting to see how well the Joe comic has aged relative to the cartoon. Where as I feel the opposite is true of Transformers

@  -LittleAutob... : (07 August 2020 - 03:58 PM)

Its so fun watching past TF Conventions.

@  Bass X0 : (07 August 2020 - 02:20 PM)

I've been reading classic 80s G.I. Joe lately. Its still decent even though I don't have any nostalgia towards it.

@  Sabrblade : (07 August 2020 - 08:50 AM)

Think of it as Adam West Batman instead. ;)

@  wonko the sane? : (07 August 2020 - 07:49 AM)

That sounds more like the flash, or maybe booster gold than batman.

@  Sabrblade : (07 August 2020 - 12:27 AM)

They would get bored fighting each other and instead decide to take an epic cross-country road trip together.

@  RichardT1977 : (06 August 2020 - 08:57 PM)

What would happen if Batman were to fight Squirrel Girl?

@  PlutoniumBoss : (04 August 2020 - 09:03 PM)

Unless you count the Mask vs Lobo special, but that's less a duel and more a duet.

@  PlutoniumBoss : (04 August 2020 - 08:52 PM)

My favorite crossover fight was Thor vs Shazam/Captain Marvel. Early in the fight, Thor discovers that Billy Batson needs lightning to transform, and being a god of lightning he simply denies him that.

@  Sabrblade : (04 August 2020 - 08:46 PM)

Let's see a fight between Death Battle and Super Power Beat Down

@  TheMightyMol... : (04 August 2020 - 06:15 PM)

Which Lobo later claimed was because he was paid to take a dive. Yes, really.

@  TheMightyMol... : (04 August 2020 - 06:15 PM)

And then there's the times it's been decided by a fan vote, which is how we get things like Lobo (who can go toe-to-toe with Superman at full strength) losing to Wolverine.

@  Nevermore : (04 August 2020 - 05:49 PM)

And then there are the "but my favorite characater will totes win because I say so" people.

@  Nevermore : (04 August 2020 - 05:49 PM)

I mean, there are some people who really approach this from a somewhat reasonable standpoint, coming up with a plausible scenario and a setting that creates a fair environment that doesn't favor one character.

@  Nevermore : (04 August 2020 - 05:46 PM)

My favorite stupid "why would they even fight each other" question recently was about three versions of Optimus Prime (G1, Bayverse and Aligned).

@  Nevermore : (04 August 2020 - 05:45 PM)

Batman obviously can beat everyone. Even Galactus. He's Batman. He's so smart, he'll just throw a Batarang and hit the weak spot at Galactus's forehead, knocking him out instantaneously.

@  wonko the sane? : (04 August 2020 - 11:37 AM)

It's almost like all drama is just manufactured pissing contests to keep us all entertained and distracted. :p

@  Tm_Silverclaw : (04 August 2020 - 10:16 AM)

Or they could go White Ranger vs Scorpion route and have both win. ;P

@  ▲ndrusi : (04 August 2020 - 09:35 AM)

Besides, we all know the answer is nearly always "they fight to a standstill and then team up against a common enemy."

@  ▲ndrusi : (04 August 2020 - 09:29 AM)

The best way to prove this is to give an example where the match is really lopsided in favor of one character but in popularity they're either evenly matched or the weaker one is more popular.

@  ▲ndrusi : (04 August 2020 - 09:27 AM)

The "who would win in a fight" discussions are really just people trying to make "which one's better" into something you can theoretically measure objectively, usually in a very specific way they think they've predetermined their favorite will win.

@  Otaku : (04 August 2020 - 02:01 AM)

@Nevermore So... you're saying you didn't like DC Versus Marvel/Marvel Versus DC?

@  Steevy Maximus : (03 August 2020 - 06:59 PM)

So, what happened to Hasbro's Zoids relaunch? An English dub, some stuff in southeast Asia, and now a game coming in October? That it?

@  wonko the sane? : (03 August 2020 - 10:46 AM)

Tidal wave, cause shooting water gets you nowhere.

@  Darth Gonzo : (03 August 2020 - 09:57 AM)

Who would win Tidal Wave or Broadside?

@  -LittleAutob... : (03 August 2020 - 08:17 AM)

Btw Happy birthday to those people in the box to the right \o/

@  -LittleAutob... : (03 August 2020 - 08:16 AM)

The bottom line is obvious. It makes no literal sense to fight someone on your faction. :/

@  wonko the sane? : (03 August 2020 - 06:14 AM)

That's because you're doing it wrong. You're supposed to just stack skills and ability against each other. It's not the palace of doom, it's an episode of american gladiators.

@  Nevermore : (03 August 2020 - 04:32 AM)

The only obvious winners of such a fight would be the bad guys.

@  Nevermore : (03 August 2020 - 04:29 AM)

And what does it even matter? They should work together, not stupidly fight each other for the mindless entertainment of idiot onlookers.

@  Nevermore : (03 August 2020 - 04:29 AM)

Why would two good guys fight each other? What are they fighting over?

@  Nevermore : (03 August 2020 - 04:28 AM)

I never understood these "who would win in a fight between two good guys" discussions. They make no sense to me.

@  Maximus Ambus : (02 August 2020 - 04:17 PM)

If G1 had continued we'd have had Starscream back in spirit - through Krunk, Snapdragons partner and possibly Skullcruncher unless he was mute.

@  Bass X0 : (02 August 2020 - 12:28 PM)

There are some decent impersonators in fandubs though.

@  -LittleAutob... : (02 August 2020 - 10:45 AM)

The only true Starscream voices are Steve Blum and Chris Latta, hands down.

@  Sabrblade : (02 August 2020 - 10:14 AM)

Why they didn't have Scott McNeil voicing that Starscream, when he was the one who had imitated Chris Latta when he voiced Cobra Commander in the DiC G.I. Joe cartoon, is beyond me.

@  wonko the sane? : (02 August 2020 - 09:57 AM)

Say what you will, that was an awesome scene.

@  Maximus Ambus : (02 August 2020 - 08:36 AM)

Beast Wars Starsream "I am AIR COMMANDER Starscream of the DECEPTICON BATTLEFLEET!"

@  Nevermore : (02 August 2020 - 07:02 AM)

I liked TF: Prime Starscream.

@  -LittleAutob... : (01 August 2020 - 08:36 PM)

Hearing Starscream's screechy voice in Cyberverse has to be the most annoying thing ever in Transformers. Even his G1 voice wasn't as bad. :doh

@  -LittleAutob... : (01 August 2020 - 08:35 PM)

KUP!


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#61 SG Roadbuster

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Posted 20 June 2020 - 06:46 AM

Threads like these just further my long standing opinion Beast Wars fans overestimate its popularity.

 

I mean I'm not surprised to hear the Thrilling 30 figures didn't sell. I bought the Legends figure of Rattrap but who is he to kids today? We had Rattletrap as a one scene wonder in Animated and then basically the same character as Starscream's minion in IDW. The actual BW incarnation that made fans actually want an updated toy has no such depiction giving him modern relevance.

 

And yes, I'm aware some of these characters pop up in other works or parents might show their kids the original show. But beyond the nostalgia market there isn't anything to give these characters relevance. I've long held that giving every toy a bio was one of the smartest choices of Hasbro. But a bio on packaging can only go so far and faced with cool robots who turn into cool cars, military and sci-fi vehicles, how many kids will choose the guy who turns into a rat or a rhino whom they know nothing about?

 

well, maybe if Hasbro used characters beside the 1984 cast in media that gets mass consumption, like say, cartoons or movies, then there would be more demand for them.

this applies to anyone. be it g1 Scoop, Beast Wars Tigerhawk, or Cybertron Crumplezone.

but nope. Hasbro keep throwing out Geewun Sideswipe and Bumblee, and Soundwave, and the Datsuns, and Shockwave, and the Seekers. over and over again.

 

i will admit, Cheetor and Rack-N-Ruin popping up in Cyberverse is a good start. too bad Cyberverse gets shafted with the 6 am sunday time slot. because Gods forbid Cartoon Network airs anything that is Teen f*&$%ing Titans Go



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Posted 22 June 2020 - 12:50 AM

Maybe Hasbro will try a page from NECA and put new(ish) figures on retro cardbacks (ala Aliens, Predator, and Terminator)


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Posted 22 June 2020 - 11:21 AM

I want to see a depressed looking Rhinox who just realized in the time between his Generations toy and his (maybe never) Beast Wars future anniversary toy, he went extinct in the wild.



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Posted 22 June 2020 - 06:37 PM

Maybe Hasbro will try a page from NECA and put new(ish) figures on retro cardbacks (ala Aliens, Predator, and Terminator)


didn't Hasbro do this with ML?
Woooo!

#65 Agent X

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Posted 23 June 2020 - 02:12 AM

 

Maybe Hasbro will try a page from NECA and put new(ish) figures on retro cardbacks (ala Aliens, Predator, and Terminator)


didn't Hasbro do this with ML?

 

Yes they did. I completely spaced on that. 

 

Now let's see them use that on reissues of T30 Rattrap and Waspinator!


Edited by Agent X, 23 June 2020 - 02:13 AM.

"Some people collect other characters like Jazz or Hot Shot and its encouraged, but I stockpile Cybertron Crosswises and that makes ME the strange one."

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Posted 23 June 2020 - 02:43 AM

I'd rather see a re-release of the best version of each character, than re-releases of everybody's first toy. Maybe see if the RM Primal mold is accessible.
Woooo!

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Posted 23 June 2020 - 03:47 AM

i will admit, Cheetor and Rack-N-Ruin popping up in Cyberverse is a good start. too bad Cyberverse gets shafted with the 6 am sunday time slot. because Gods forbid Cartoon Network airs anything that is Teen f*&$%ing Titans Go

 

All the cool kids watch shows online on their ipads. My nephew and niece very rarely watch actual TV shows when they are aired. 


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Posted 23 June 2020 - 04:32 PM

I'm still a big fan of Beast Wars, and on some level it's still my favourite Transformers series – and I say that as someone as a very early fan of the franchise (we're not all Geewunners). The trouble is, and I hate to admit this... We're probably unlikely to see many, if any, actual Beast era revivalism. Certainly not in the toy ranges. I doubt we're any more likely to get brand new figures of Beast Wars characters in a future iteration of the Generations range than we are, say, G2 Bulletbike or extremely obscure Japanese-only G1 characters. It seems like a miracle that we got a new Optimal Optimus in Power of the Primes, and I fear that could be the last time we see Hasbro release a major Beast Wars action figure.


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Posted 29 June 2020 - 07:57 AM

I just wish they're rerelease the ones that had chrome flaking problems.  Including non-show toys, because those were some of my favorites.

 

But I'm guessing it wouldn't make sense monetarily.  Too bad, because I would love a new TM2 Scourge.



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Posted 29 June 2020 - 11:53 AM

I'd rather see a re-release of the best version of each character, than re-releases of everybody's first toy. Maybe see if the RM Primal mold is accessible.

I never did get a transmetal waspinator.. and I loved seeing pics of that mold



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Posted 29 June 2020 - 12:29 PM

 

I'd rather see a re-release of the best version of each character, than re-releases of everybody's first toy. Maybe see if the RM Primal mold is accessible.

I never did get a transmetal waspinator.. and I loved seeing pics of that mold

 

His wings were prone to breakage, though.


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