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@  TheMightyMol... : (09 August 2020 - 06:16 PM)

Which crisis crossover are we on now? I lost track.

@  Rycochet : (09 August 2020 - 05:18 PM)

Much of the past decade has been the part of the comic series where less than stellar authors have driven the series into the ground and the editors are getting ready to either do a big multi issue crossover, leading to a reboot.

@  Bass X0 : (09 August 2020 - 02:28 PM)

At this point I've just decided to consider 2020 "not canon."

@  TheMightyMol... : (09 August 2020 - 02:18 PM)

'member Pepperidge Farm?

@  Maximus Ambus : (09 August 2020 - 02:10 PM)

Before the 'member berries there was Pepperidge farm. Pepperidge farm remembers.

@  OverDrive73 : (09 August 2020 - 12:21 PM)

>>>Shameless Plug<<< FYI. posted the last part of Quest for Tires in Allspark Pictures

@  SG Roadbuster : (08 August 2020 - 01:53 PM)

@Nevermore yes.

@  Nevermore : (08 August 2020 - 09:11 AM)

Is $30 a good deal for Subscription Service Breakdown?

@  Trpodeca : (08 August 2020 - 06:24 AM)

Oh dear God no. Twitter has changed it's default layout to the terrible new one. Why waste so much space on the left?

@  Steevy Maximus : (07 August 2020 - 08:28 PM)

@Bass X0, yeah, the Joe comic got REALLY solid in the upper 20s to the Cobra Civil War. It's interesting to see how well the Joe comic has aged relative to the cartoon. Where as I feel the opposite is true of Transformers

@  -LittleAutob... : (07 August 2020 - 03:58 PM)

Its so fun watching past TF Conventions.

@  Bass X0 : (07 August 2020 - 02:20 PM)

I've been reading classic 80s G.I. Joe lately. Its still decent even though I don't have any nostalgia towards it.

@  Sabrblade : (07 August 2020 - 08:50 AM)

Think of it as Adam West Batman instead. ;)

@  wonko the sane? : (07 August 2020 - 07:49 AM)

That sounds more like the flash, or maybe booster gold than batman.

@  Sabrblade : (07 August 2020 - 12:27 AM)

They would get bored fighting each other and instead decide to take an epic cross-country road trip together.

@  RichardT1977 : (06 August 2020 - 08:57 PM)

What would happen if Batman were to fight Squirrel Girl?

@  PlutoniumBoss : (04 August 2020 - 09:03 PM)

Unless you count the Mask vs Lobo special, but that's less a duel and more a duet.

@  PlutoniumBoss : (04 August 2020 - 08:52 PM)

My favorite crossover fight was Thor vs Shazam/Captain Marvel. Early in the fight, Thor discovers that Billy Batson needs lightning to transform, and being a god of lightning he simply denies him that.

@  Sabrblade : (04 August 2020 - 08:46 PM)

Let's see a fight between Death Battle and Super Power Beat Down

@  TheMightyMol... : (04 August 2020 - 06:15 PM)

Which Lobo later claimed was because he was paid to take a dive. Yes, really.

@  TheMightyMol... : (04 August 2020 - 06:15 PM)

And then there's the times it's been decided by a fan vote, which is how we get things like Lobo (who can go toe-to-toe with Superman at full strength) losing to Wolverine.

@  Nevermore : (04 August 2020 - 05:49 PM)

And then there are the "but my favorite characater will totes win because I say so" people.

@  Nevermore : (04 August 2020 - 05:49 PM)

I mean, there are some people who really approach this from a somewhat reasonable standpoint, coming up with a plausible scenario and a setting that creates a fair environment that doesn't favor one character.

@  Nevermore : (04 August 2020 - 05:46 PM)

My favorite stupid "why would they even fight each other" question recently was about three versions of Optimus Prime (G1, Bayverse and Aligned).

@  Nevermore : (04 August 2020 - 05:45 PM)

Batman obviously can beat everyone. Even Galactus. He's Batman. He's so smart, he'll just throw a Batarang and hit the weak spot at Galactus's forehead, knocking him out instantaneously.

@  wonko the sane? : (04 August 2020 - 11:37 AM)

It's almost like all drama is just manufactured pissing contests to keep us all entertained and distracted. :p

@  Tm_Silverclaw : (04 August 2020 - 10:16 AM)

Or they could go White Ranger vs Scorpion route and have both win. ;P

@  ▲ndrusi : (04 August 2020 - 09:35 AM)

Besides, we all know the answer is nearly always "they fight to a standstill and then team up against a common enemy."

@  ▲ndrusi : (04 August 2020 - 09:29 AM)

The best way to prove this is to give an example where the match is really lopsided in favor of one character but in popularity they're either evenly matched or the weaker one is more popular.

@  ▲ndrusi : (04 August 2020 - 09:27 AM)

The "who would win in a fight" discussions are really just people trying to make "which one's better" into something you can theoretically measure objectively, usually in a very specific way they think they've predetermined their favorite will win.

@  Otaku : (04 August 2020 - 02:01 AM)

@Nevermore So... you're saying you didn't like DC Versus Marvel/Marvel Versus DC?

@  Steevy Maximus : (03 August 2020 - 06:59 PM)

So, what happened to Hasbro's Zoids relaunch? An English dub, some stuff in southeast Asia, and now a game coming in October? That it?

@  wonko the sane? : (03 August 2020 - 10:46 AM)

Tidal wave, cause shooting water gets you nowhere.

@  Darth Gonzo : (03 August 2020 - 09:57 AM)

Who would win Tidal Wave or Broadside?

@  -LittleAutob... : (03 August 2020 - 08:17 AM)

Btw Happy birthday to those people in the box to the right \o/

@  -LittleAutob... : (03 August 2020 - 08:16 AM)

The bottom line is obvious. It makes no literal sense to fight someone on your faction. :/

@  wonko the sane? : (03 August 2020 - 06:14 AM)

That's because you're doing it wrong. You're supposed to just stack skills and ability against each other. It's not the palace of doom, it's an episode of american gladiators.

@  Nevermore : (03 August 2020 - 04:32 AM)

The only obvious winners of such a fight would be the bad guys.

@  Nevermore : (03 August 2020 - 04:29 AM)

And what does it even matter? They should work together, not stupidly fight each other for the mindless entertainment of idiot onlookers.

@  Nevermore : (03 August 2020 - 04:29 AM)

Why would two good guys fight each other? What are they fighting over?

@  Nevermore : (03 August 2020 - 04:28 AM)

I never understood these "who would win in a fight between two good guys" discussions. They make no sense to me.

@  Maximus Ambus : (02 August 2020 - 04:17 PM)

If G1 had continued we'd have had Starscream back in spirit - through Krunk, Snapdragons partner and possibly Skullcruncher unless he was mute.

@  Bass X0 : (02 August 2020 - 12:28 PM)

There are some decent impersonators in fandubs though.

@  -LittleAutob... : (02 August 2020 - 10:45 AM)

The only true Starscream voices are Steve Blum and Chris Latta, hands down.

@  Sabrblade : (02 August 2020 - 10:14 AM)

Why they didn't have Scott McNeil voicing that Starscream, when he was the one who had imitated Chris Latta when he voiced Cobra Commander in the DiC G.I. Joe cartoon, is beyond me.

@  wonko the sane? : (02 August 2020 - 09:57 AM)

Say what you will, that was an awesome scene.

@  Maximus Ambus : (02 August 2020 - 08:36 AM)

Beast Wars Starsream "I am AIR COMMANDER Starscream of the DECEPTICON BATTLEFLEET!"

@  Nevermore : (02 August 2020 - 07:02 AM)

I liked TF: Prime Starscream.

@  -LittleAutob... : (01 August 2020 - 08:36 PM)

Hearing Starscream's screechy voice in Cyberverse has to be the most annoying thing ever in Transformers. Even his G1 voice wasn't as bad. :doh

@  -LittleAutob... : (01 August 2020 - 08:35 PM)

KUP!


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#21 CheeseSomersault

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Posted 16 June 2020 - 02:47 PM

 

With Hasbro regularly re-issuing various G1 stuff, I have to ask; why not Beast Wars?

 

 

Because they tried that once and they didn't exactly fly off the shelves?

 

 

That might not be super relevant since that was 15 years ago. Now the kids that grew up on BW are adults with hopefully a little disposable income instead of teenagers like they were during the last reissue line. 



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Posted 16 June 2020 - 03:37 PM

Didn't the T30 Beastwars molds shelfwarm something rotten too? Rhinox and Whirl were clearance store fodder here. Can't blame them for being gunshy



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Posted 16 June 2020 - 04:56 PM

Didn't the T30 Beastwars molds shelfwarm something rotten too? Rhinox and Whirl were clearance store fodder here. Can't blame them for being gunshy

 

i hear this argument alot. and i find it disingenuous.

sure T30 Rattrap and Rhinox pegwarmed. but Waspinator flew off the shelves.

Siege Sideswipe, Megatron and Starscream pegwarm like mofos, does that mean we'll never see Starscream, Sideswipe, and Megatron toys ever again?



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Posted 16 June 2020 - 04:58 PM

Siege Thundercracker is shelfwarming like crazy, guess we don't need any more seekers!

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Posted 16 June 2020 - 05:01 PM

Didn't the T30 Beastwars molds shelfwarm something rotten too? Rhinox and Whirl were clearance store fodder here. Can't blame them for being gunshy

 

Rhinox did, yes, but IIRC the 2014 Deluxe waves of Thrilling 30 (Waves 7-11, going by TFWiki) all had some major distribution issues that made many of those figures (including Waspinator and Rattrap) very hard to find at retail for the longest time.

 

I remember having to get most of the new Deluxes at that year's BotCon since I couldn't find them anywhere else at the time.


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Posted 16 June 2020 - 05:03 PM

Didn't the T30 Beastwars molds shelfwarm something rotten too? Rhinox and Whirl were clearance store fodder here. Can't blame them for being gunshy

 
i hear this argument alot. and i find it disingenuous.
sure T30 Rattrap and Rhinox pegwarmed. but Waspinator flew off the shelves.
Proof people have no taste in characters.

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Posted 16 June 2020 - 05:51 PM

Didn't the T30 Beastwars molds shelfwarm something rotten too? Rhinox and Whirl were clearance store fodder here. Can't blame them for being gunshy

 
i hear this argument alot. and i find it disingenuous.
sure T30 Rattrap and Rhinox pegwarmed. but Waspinator flew off the shelves.
Siege Sideswipe, Megatron and Starscream pegwarm like mofos, does that mean we'll never see Starscream, Sideswipe, and Megatron toys ever again?

Waspinator is the only one with wings, so no wonder. :p Seriously though, g1 for all it's issues is a proven seller while Beast Wars struggles. I hope it's given another chance, I just don't see furry beasts or a line of reissues particularly likely.

I certainly wouldn't shed a tear if we didn't get another seeker, lambo or silver g1 tank Megatron for a decade, that's for sure. I am beyond tired of all three.

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Posted 16 June 2020 - 06:32 PM

 

 

the attempted Animated restart line

 

The what, now? :???

 

There was talk here a while ago that when Animated started being repeated, Hasbro went to retailers trying to find anyone interested in rereleases of some of the toys, but nobody bit and that was as far as it went.

 

That's news to me.



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Posted 17 June 2020 - 12:40 AM

 

 

With Hasbro regularly re-issuing various G1 stuff, I have to ask; why not Beast Wars?

 

 

Because they tried that once and they didn't exactly fly off the shelves?

 

 

That might not be super relevant since that was 15 years ago. Now the kids that grew up on BW are adults with hopefully a little disposable income instead of teenagers like they were during the last reissue line. 

 

Correct. And even when they WERE released.....it seemed to me they got bought up pretty well. 


 

Given current costs, how much would BW reissues cost? A BW Ultra mass & parts count might be as much as or even more than a current leader class. Want to pay $50-$60 for a retail BW Ultra? How many BW Ultras go for more than that on the secondary market?

I'm seeing TM Megatron (BOTH of them) going for $100+. As far as paying $60 for an Ultra......we saw G1 fans pay close to that for just the CAB of G1 Prime. That's an awfully strange argument to try and make. 


Edited by LioConvoy, 17 June 2020 - 12:40 AM.


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Posted 17 June 2020 - 12:49 AM

Just double checked; people are willing to pay $50 retail for the figure on the left, but you think itd be strange for them to do so for the figure on the right?

We must come to one of two conclusions then:

1. G1 fans are getting fleeced, and theyre suckers for doing so.
2. The argument doesnt really hold much water.

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Posted 17 June 2020 - 01:02 AM

From my experience, people were not willing to pay full price for the trailer-less Optimus reissue, deliberately boycotting it out of protest. It wasn't until after the figure was clearanced by Walmart that more people started to pick it up.


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QUOTE(Bass X0 @ Aug 17 2013, 08:20 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I think the concept of being educated and being able to educate is something that more people need more of in their lives.

No, we don't all know everything but we should spread and share that what we do know.

If I'm consistently misspelling a word, I would want and expect people to correct me as should I imagine all decent people who know the value of good literacy.

Its just arrogant laziness to know you're spelling a word incorrectly and not correct yourself or ignore the advice when people do tell you how to spell a word correctly.

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Posted 17 June 2020 - 01:05 AM

I paid $50, but mine came with a Studio Series Bumblebee movie Optimus Prime for another $50.



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Posted 17 June 2020 - 02:28 AM

I'm seeing TM Megatron (BOTH of them) going for $100+.


Do you mean "going for" as in that's the listed price, or what people actually paid for it?

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Posted 17 June 2020 - 02:33 AM

So I'm assuming people are only giving a crap about show characters, and Polar Claw and Transquito can suck it, right?
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Posted 17 June 2020 - 03:43 AM

Nobody cared about Transquito when he was still on shelves.

 

So, y'know, last year or so.



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Posted 17 June 2020 - 04:06 AM

Ok let's ask the real question.

Why no Beast Machines re-issues?
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Posted 17 June 2020 - 07:02 AM

I remember getting a Metals Megatron for $10 off of eBay. Granted this was in 2001, so the point is moot.

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Posted 17 June 2020 - 07:45 AM

 

I'm seeing TM Megatron (BOTH of them) going for $100+.


Do you mean "going for" as in that's the listed price, or what people actually paid for it?

 

Fair point; A TM Megatron that's NOT broken loose tends to go for around $70 average, and $100+ inbox. Seems to be generally the same for TM2. That's sold. You may see it go for less occasionally, but that's not the average. 

Nobody cared about Transquito when he was still on shelves.

 

So, y'know, last year or so.

I still have nightmares about that. How dare you.


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Posted 17 June 2020 - 08:56 AM

Ok let's ask the real question.

Why no Beast Machines re-issues?

 

Takara recently did Returns Convoy (Air Attack Optimus Primal) in Encore, while Hasbro reissued the same mold in the Year of the Monkey. ;)


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I think the concept of being educated and being able to educate is something that more people need more of in their lives.

No, we don't all know everything but we should spread and share that what we do know.

If I'm consistently misspelling a word, I would want and expect people to correct me as should I imagine all decent people who know the value of good literacy.

Its just arrogant laziness to know you're spelling a word incorrectly and not correct yourself or ignore the advice when people do tell you how to spell a word correctly.

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Posted 17 June 2020 - 09:35 AM

My favorite Beast Wars non-show molds (the frogs of any vintage) probably have no chance of being reissued.  Though I am surprised at how well they've held up considering that Spittor came in 'clear plastic', 'flaky chrome' and 'different color of flaky chrome' flavors, and they're all fine as far as I can tell.  My solid red one seems fine, too.

 

All versions of Springload I have, though not really "Beast Wars" are doing great, despite being either small and thin or filled with springs.  Those things are awesome.





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