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@  Maximus Ambus : (28 September 2020 - 02:10 PM)

I wish they were more universal like Beast Wars, Animated or Prime and as professionally done,

@  Maximus Ambus : (28 September 2020 - 02:06 PM)

The Netflix shows are done for adults, the Generation toyline is for adults who grew up with G1.

@  Sabrblade : (28 September 2020 - 12:53 PM)

Who said it ever was?

@  -LittleAutob... : (28 September 2020 - 12:43 PM)

Whatever happened to WFC Earthrise being a kids show X'D

@  wonko the sane? : (28 September 2020 - 11:43 AM)

Cool, my last tablet couldn't run it, and I stopped caring by the time I got the new one. So thanks!

@  Otaku : (28 September 2020 - 11:27 AM)

There are crossover characters, but the amount and distribution... Marvel Vs Capcom this ain't.  If @wonko the sane? my bad!

@  Otaku : (28 September 2020 - 11:21 AM)

I've been playing for *checks account* 1002 days, 23 hours.  So, by 2021, it will have been three years.  I think it takes place in its own continuity, largely inspired by G1 but borrowing from other places.

@  Otaku : (28 September 2020 - 11:19 AM)

@wonko the sane? Can only speak for Earth Wars, but so few they're easy to forget.

@  wonko the sane? : (28 September 2020 - 07:39 AM)

Didn't they already do the across universes thing in that tablet game?

@  Demovere Xeno : (28 September 2020 - 05:30 AM)

Also, make the setting an amalgamation of different Transformers series, rather than based on a specific one. Bring in things like 'Sentinel Major' as the primo Autobot jerk, and sleek car mode Vehicons as the Decepticons' basic grunt.

@  Demovere Xeno : (28 September 2020 - 05:27 AM)

KT just needs to incorporate the vehicle modes into the combat system, like Platinum did for Devastation, so they're for more than just wheeling it across the battlefield. =P

@  Demovere Xeno : (28 September 2020 - 05:25 AM)

Transformers: Warriors of Cybertron! =D

@  Tm_Silverclaw : (28 September 2020 - 05:15 AM)

I want a Power Rangers Mosu. I would also take a Transformers Mosu. :D

@  TheMightyMol... : (28 September 2020 - 04:50 AM)

It even ended on a sequel hook.

@  Demovere Xeno : (28 September 2020 - 04:40 AM)

Man, I just want another Devastation game... =(

@  NotVeryKnightly : (28 September 2020 - 01:53 AM)

Aren't TFs way more varied than Joes, as far as they'd work in gameplay? Like, Omega Supreme is vastly different from Bumblebee.

@  unluckiness : (27 September 2020 - 10:16 PM)

Hell, ripoff Super Robot Wars withTFs

@  unluckiness : (27 September 2020 - 10:16 PM)

IDK they could make something like FF tactics or Fire Emblem ripoff with Robots and i'd buy it

@  Steevy Maximus : (27 September 2020 - 09:43 PM)

See, I feel GI Joe (with it's varied cast) is a better fit for a strategy game, where as Transformers feels more suited for a shooter.

@  Maruten : (27 September 2020 - 08:28 PM)

I might give them points for making a strategy game if it's actually a good strategy game.

@  wonko the sane? : (27 September 2020 - 07:48 PM)

I mean, points for making a strategy game instead of third person shooter, but: urrrrgggg. Cyberverse.

@  wonko the sane? : (27 September 2020 - 07:47 PM)

A transformers game for the switch? *checks* Urrrggg... cyberverse...

@  Steevy Maximus : (27 September 2020 - 06:28 PM)

October will be a big month for Hasbro fans: Zoids, GI Joe AND Transformers all have brand new console games. All on the Switch at that!

@  wonko the sane? : (27 September 2020 - 09:04 AM)

At least in animated he was more driven than just "loyal bootlick".

@  unluckiness : (27 September 2020 - 08:29 AM)

Oof, That's a huge downgrade

@  Maximus Ambus : (27 September 2020 - 02:35 AM)

After rewatching Animated Sound and Fury, in my head canon Titans Return Soundwave is that Soundwave.

@  wonko the sane? : (26 September 2020 - 04:09 PM)

On an unrelated note: I just got the BBTS email about kingdom pre-orders... and even the stuff I don't want I'm perfectly willing to get if it means I can have the rest of it.

@  wonko the sane? : (26 September 2020 - 04:08 PM)

It's digimon. So first one, then the other.

@  TheMightyMol... : (26 September 2020 - 12:53 PM)

50/50 odds, it's either a helicopter with limbs, or a scantily-clad human with heli blades on their back. If female, 90% odds on the second one.

@  NotVeryKnightly : (26 September 2020 - 12:39 PM)

I read that as "Helicoptermon" and wondered what kind of Digimon that was.

@  Bass X0 : (26 September 2020 - 12:35 PM)

Helicopter-mom, transform!

@  Maximus Ambus : (25 September 2020 - 11:58 PM)

Aw I scratched the hood of my 35th anniversary Bluestreak. Fortunately he's in robot mode a lot.

@  Sabrblade : (25 September 2020 - 07:24 PM)

No decoration could improve the wall more than Knockout himself

@  TheMightyMol... : (25 September 2020 - 05:04 PM)

The wall could use some decorating, though. Maybe a nice shelf or a portrait.

@  -LittleAutob... : (25 September 2020 - 04:32 PM)

I'm laughing so hard XDDD

@  ▲ndrusi : (25 September 2020 - 02:31 PM)

He doesn't even mind this time. You know what? It's comfortable here.

@  -LittleAutob... : (25 September 2020 - 02:23 PM)

AND THEN KNOCKOUT WAS IN THE WALL AGAIN XDDD

@  Bass X0 : (25 September 2020 - 01:11 PM)

is an annoying stage in Super Mario World.

@  wonko the sane? : (24 September 2020 - 02:15 PM)

Gnarly.

@  PlutoniumBoss : (24 September 2020 - 01:05 PM)

Beast Era, a blonde rat called Sunsqueaker.

@  TheMightyMol... : (24 September 2020 - 01:00 PM)

And then Knockout was in the wall again.

@  Sabrblade : (24 September 2020 - 12:53 PM)

Knockout: "Ooh, sorry, Lord Megatron. The correct word was... 'Decepticon'."

@  -LittleAutob... : (24 September 2020 - 11:15 AM)

Knockout: *while doing a crossword puzzle* Lord Megatron, whats a ten letter word for disappointment? | Megatron: ...... Starscream.

@  Maximus Ambus : (23 September 2020 - 01:20 PM)

@Bass X0 Shockwave did it.

@  TheMightyMol... : (23 September 2020 - 11:56 AM)

At least it's not Suntwerker.

@  wonko the sane? : (23 September 2020 - 11:19 AM)

I read that name as "suntweaker" the first time, and was terrified for a moment...

@  Bass X0 : (23 September 2020 - 03:41 AM)

Prowl did nothing wrong.

@  TheMightyMol... : (23 September 2020 - 01:50 AM)

Smashy, Stabby, Selfy, and Shieldy.

@  Xero Prime : (22 September 2020 - 08:52 PM)

RunFast, MuckyTrail, TrackBreaker and Sunstreaker

@  TheMightyMol... : (22 September 2020 - 06:16 AM)

Runamuck, Fasttrack, Sunstreaker, and Trailbreaker.


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Why No Beast Wars Re-Issues?


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#1 LioConvoy

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Posted 16 June 2020 - 12:07 AM

With Hasbro regularly re-issuing various G1 stuff, I have to ask; why not Beast Wars?

Next year will be its 25th anniversary, and there are some figures (like TM Megatron) that could stand to be released again due to how theyre deteriorated over the years.

Also, it would be neat, and Id like that.

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Posted 16 June 2020 - 12:28 AM

We did get reissues back in 2006. But of course, that was under a different Hasbro team than the current one.

 

Though, we did get those unexpected redecos of the Terrorsaur and Guiledart molds in the AOE toyline.

 

And Takara reissued the Ultra class Optimus Primal mold (complete with its Beast Wars Reborn retoolings) back at the beginning of the Legends line, as well as reissuing the Big Convoy mold three times between Encore and Legends.

 

 

It also doesn't help that Beast Wars happens to share its anniversary years with those of TFTM, since Beast Wars itself first came out during the tenth anniversary of that movie. So, a lot more attention is given to celebrating that movie's anniversaries than Beast Wars's anniversaries due to a seeming consistent preference of honoring G1 above all else by the current Hasbro team. At least IDW's got its new Beast Wars comics coming next year.


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Posted 16 June 2020 - 01:29 AM

It's a remarkably consistent pattern in nostalgia lines, most likely thanks to the first generation being around longer, being more recognizable, and being the source for most demand.

 

Star Trek's original series gets more love than the arguably more popular The Next Generation, while the newest shows have practically no merchandise.   Star Wars' original trilogy tends to take over whenever the "new content" runs its course, leaving the prequels, TV projects, and sequels in the lurch.   Mighty Morphin' Power Rangers always seems to take the forefront on new preschool lines, too.  I guess it's because a lot of the toys go to the kids, but toy companies know mom and/or dad buy the things.   G.I. Joe may be one of the few exceptions, because the 1982 generation really did make such a big, long impact that we're still feeling its effects with yet another nostalgia line based on it while the 12-inch dudes have largely been relegated to the dust bins of history.

 

I'd nudge you - or indeed anyone, for any toy line - to make a fuss over it.  We're only just now seeing Kenner-style Real Ghostbusters reissues, Hasbro US has been slow on the G1 reissues and Star Wars Kenner remakes, Mattel did some MOTU reissues a long while  back, and I can tell you that Hasbro does indeed listen when fans get together and demand things - especially specific things.   If they see a sudden petition for a reissue of an older toy or a new version of it, they have been pretty good about discussing it and in some cases, finding a way to make it happen.   I  know I'd love to see an improved Transmetals Megatron or an all-new toy based on the original design with hopefully non-crumbly bits and non-flaky paint, but going back to that law of franchises, I doubt that'd be where Hasbro starts if and when Beast Wars gets back in their good graces.   Unless, of course, fan outcry kicks in.



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Posted 16 June 2020 - 04:46 AM

I did like those Telemocha Beast Wars repaints. Takara should reissue them and some more that they hadn't done originally. Original 1996 Hasbro colors? Not worth reissuing. 


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Posted 16 June 2020 - 06:03 AM

Some of the original molds are probably worn out beyond use by now, or just lost or buried in a warehouse. And frankly, a lot of them aren't really worth the premium they'd cost for a reissue when the originals aren't hard to find at a reasonable price.



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Posted 16 June 2020 - 06:12 AM

There isn't the same level of nostalgia for them. As much as we like it, it never reached the same level of pop culture impact that would justify premium rereleases of molds that don't hold up well. G1 molds don't hold up well either, but thanks to nostalgia goggles, more people will buy them than a $30 deinonychus in non show accurate colours, who's as wide as he is tall.

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Posted 16 June 2020 - 07:23 AM

the trend of 80s nostalgia is gonna be locked in for a while. 

the cartoons of the 80s were aggressive marketing incarnate. stories and characters designed to sell cheap plastic toys.

nowadays that marketing push is aimed at selling Fortnight Lootboxes.

have you seen toy aisles these days? no where near the brand/franchise diversity of the 80s and 90s.

 

the 80s kids are in their 40s and 50s now. they've established themselves in the workforce, and they have a significant disposable income.

the 90s kids and their juniors haven't been so lucky. a job market crowded with previous generations who refuse to retire means lucrative careers are harder to find than a non-broken G2 Electro. and they've had to deal with 3 market crashes and more on the way.

 

so yeah, i just dont see the 90s nostalgia market ever overtaking the 80s nostalgia market.



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Posted 16 June 2020 - 07:59 AM

My completely unfounded hypothesis was that Kenner handling BW rather than Hasbro proper led to the molds being labeled as such and being placed in a different storage area or otherwise lost in the shuffle over the years.

 

That, or the articulation-heavy ball joint-happy designs were much harder on the steel molds than the G1 bricks of brickitude.


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Posted 16 June 2020 - 08:03 AM

I'd prefer to see more Beast Wars MP projects instead.

 

 

fingers crossed for Airazor; that would be neat.


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Posted 16 June 2020 - 08:32 AM

I'd rather they just be rolled into generations, put through the g1 filter if necessary like the headmaster era beasts. Give me jetwinged robogryphon Silverbolt, even if it's only a Wolfwire retool.

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Posted 16 June 2020 - 08:36 AM

As mentioned: there have been re-releases (10th anniversary, tele-mocha, Big Convoy...), G1 was bigger/more nostalgia for it.

 

But also, there may be a handful(TM Megatron, original Rattrap), of original BW molds that are pricey on the secondary market, but not all that many. (And some molds would have to be re-created, original Rattrap was supposedly planned for 10th anniversary but the mold was lost/unuseable) It is a finite world, there are finite resources, so the concept of "opportunity costs" exists. Hasbro/TT could theoretically do BW reissues, but could they spend the same resources on something else that would be *more* profitable? Probably.

 

Given current costs, how much would BW reissues cost? A BW Ultra mass & parts count might be as much as or even more than a current leader class. Want to pay $50-$60 for a retail BW Ultra? How many BW Ultras go for more than that on the secondary market?



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Posted 16 June 2020 - 08:49 AM

With the retail space what it is, an important question is also 'Who would carry the line?' As the attempted Animated restart line showed, if there's no takers, it's not going to happen.

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Posted 16 June 2020 - 08:58 AM

They've been hinting at plans for the BW anniversary next year in several recent interviews.

Whether that boils down to reissues or new toys in generations remains to be seen.

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Posted 16 June 2020 - 09:44 AM

Some of the original molds are probably worn out beyond use by now, or just lost or buried in a warehouse. And frankly, a lot of them aren't really worth the premium they'd cost for a reissue when the originals aren't hard to find at a reasonable price.

That is pretty much what I was thinking. A quick ebay search shows over 1000 MISB/MOSC listings for Beast wars toys and they aren't that expensive.


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Posted 16 June 2020 - 09:48 AM

the attempted Animated restart line

 

The what, now? :???


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Posted 16 June 2020 - 11:53 AM


With Hasbro regularly re-issuing various G1 stuff, I have to ask; why not Beast Wars?

 

 

Because they tried that once and they didn't exactly fly off the shelves?



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Posted 16 June 2020 - 12:07 PM

i adore beast wars. it's what got me in to the franchise (even though i had a g2 seaspray first and liked my younger brother's transformers). but i am content not getting reissues. the previous anniversary line was nice, and those upgrade primal and megatron figures with the axalon and darksyde were great. if hasbro went that way to make some of the figures a little more show accurate like tm cheetor, rattrap, and tarantulas, i'd buy em. but i'd really like a new line, do something like classic characters from the show, a few select upgrades from the rest of the line, and infuse a few new characters



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Posted 16 June 2020 - 12:34 PM

 

the attempted Animated restart line

 

The what, now? :???

 

 

I had the same question. The only thing I could think of was the BotCon set. 



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Posted 16 June 2020 - 12:43 PM

 

With Hasbro regularly re-issuing various G1 stuff, I have to ask; why not Beast Wars?

 

 

Because they tried that once and they didn't exactly fly off the shelves?

 

Yeah, happened around the time G1 reissues puttered out because they weren't flying off shelves :p



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Posted 16 June 2020 - 02:33 PM

 

the attempted Animated restart line

 

The what, now? :???

 

There was talk here a while ago that when Animated started being repeated, Hasbro went to retailers trying to find anyone interested in rereleases of some of the toys, but nobody bit and that was as far as it went.





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