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@  Maximus Ambus : (11 August 2020 - 03:52 AM)

Others say Joe sat down at this pond next to these ducks but really there's just no place in this world for an old man and his ducks.

@  Nevermore : (10 August 2020 - 06:48 PM)

Even worse when I can produce those verifiable facts at a later point, and then the other person simply claims the argument was the other way round (as in, I was actually arguing their position and vice versa).

@  Nevermore : (10 August 2020 - 06:47 PM)

I can argue with people about my versus their memory of events when verifiable facts are not readily available, though, and I get really annoyed when I'm capable of presenting a precise, step-by-step summary with multiple key points that can be used for future verification, and the other person just goes "nope, wrong" without going into detail.

@  Nevermore : (10 August 2020 - 06:45 PM)

I forget things, and I misremember things. But when presented with verifiable facts, my reaction is more like "Huh, could have sworn it was like that", not "this reality is not my own".

@  Nevermore : (10 August 2020 - 06:43 PM)

I have an extremely good memory (which I have proven time and again), and even I can be mistaken.

@  NotVeryKnightly : (10 August 2020 - 06:40 PM)

Might be worth pointing out that it only became "Mandela Effect" and not just "I remembered this wrong" when a conspiracy theorist insisted it was proof of alternate timelines.

@  Otaku : (10 August 2020 - 06:29 PM)

Incorrectly remembering Nelson Mandela's fate may be uniquely American... but is it really that strange to get South African political history wrong when you're no where near South Africa?

@  Otaku : (10 August 2020 - 06:29 PM)

I always assumed the Mandela Effect was a "human thing", not an American thing.

@  wonko the sane? : (10 August 2020 - 02:03 PM)

Then there are people who outright manufacture memories for whatever reason.

@  PlutoniumBoss : (10 August 2020 - 01:13 PM)

The human brain is so flaky that it is extremely unlikely that a given person does NOT have any false memories.

@  OverDrive73 : (10 August 2020 - 01:05 PM)

Perhaps it's simple word association the movie Sinbad and then our minds apply the same memories to a man named Sinbad.

@  OverDrive73 : (10 August 2020 - 01:04 PM)

The Mandela Effect is the same as people remembering Sinbad in a movie where he played a genie... Of which he never did.

@  MidnightFox : (10 August 2020 - 09:36 AM)

People that believe Mandela Effect things would rather come up with any number of reasons as to why their version doesn't have any actual evidence(like alternate timelines collapsing into our own) than just admit they remembered something wrong

@  MidnightFox : (10 August 2020 - 09:35 AM)

Sort of. It's more that when presented with a verifiable fact, they double down because it's what they believe instead of changing their minds

@  ▲ndrusi : (10 August 2020 - 09:25 AM)

"I could have sworn that ______."

@  ▲ndrusi : (10 August 2020 - 09:25 AM)

I'm not arguing with either of those two statements, but they're not really connected. Mandela Effect is, to oversimplify, people being widely mistaken about what they think *is* a verifiable fact. Nothing to do with opinions.

@  MidnightFox : (10 August 2020 - 08:52 AM)

Pretty sure the Mandela Effect in general is an American thing. Opinion > Verifiable Facts is sadly a pretty American thing

@  Nevermore : (10 August 2020 - 04:27 AM)

Ask these people how Apartheid ended according to their recollection, and I'm sure they'll draw a blank.

@  Nevermore : (10 August 2020 - 04:25 AM)

You got two black anti-Apartheid activists who were imprisoned by the oppressive regime. One died, the other was Nelson Mandela. It's not a far stretch that Americans who don't know many details about the history of other countries would mix up the two.

@  Nevermore : (10 August 2020 - 04:24 AM)

My own theory is that these people are simply mixing up Nelson Mandela and Steve Biko, another South African anti-Apartheid activist, who did indeed die in police custody in 1977. There was an Oscar-nominated movie about his life starring Denzel Washington that came out in 1987, the same time frame these people claim remembering Mandela dying.

@  Nevermore : (10 August 2020 - 04:17 AM)

I met a few people from South Africa, and they either never heard of the phenomenon at all, or only know of it from the internet. Apparently, it's completely unknown in South Africa, and it might even be entirely limited to the United States.

@  Nevermore : (10 August 2020 - 04:16 AM)

So does anyone remember the "Mandela Effect"? I'm talking specifically about the original case where many people vividly remember Nelson Mandela dying in prison in the 1980s.

@  Tm_Silverclaw : (10 August 2020 - 03:16 AM)

Crisis of Corona.

@  TheMightyMol... : (09 August 2020 - 06:16 PM)

Which crisis crossover are we on now? I lost track.

@  Rycochet : (09 August 2020 - 05:18 PM)

Much of the past decade has been the part of the comic series where less than stellar authors have driven the series into the ground and the editors are getting ready to either do a big multi issue crossover, leading to a reboot.

@  Bass X0 : (09 August 2020 - 02:28 PM)

At this point I've just decided to consider 2020 "not canon."

@  TheMightyMol... : (09 August 2020 - 02:18 PM)

'member Pepperidge Farm?

@  Maximus Ambus : (09 August 2020 - 02:10 PM)

Before the 'member berries there was Pepperidge farm. Pepperidge farm remembers.

@  OverDrive73 : (09 August 2020 - 12:21 PM)

>>>Shameless Plug<<< FYI. posted the last part of Quest for Tires in Allspark Pictures

@  SG Roadbuster : (08 August 2020 - 01:53 PM)

@Nevermore yes.

@  Nevermore : (08 August 2020 - 09:11 AM)

Is $30 a good deal for Subscription Service Breakdown?

@  Trpodeca : (08 August 2020 - 06:24 AM)

Oh dear God no. Twitter has changed it's default layout to the terrible new one. Why waste so much space on the left?

@  Steevy Maximus : (07 August 2020 - 08:28 PM)

@Bass X0, yeah, the Joe comic got REALLY solid in the upper 20s to the Cobra Civil War. It's interesting to see how well the Joe comic has aged relative to the cartoon. Where as I feel the opposite is true of Transformers

@  -LittleAutob... : (07 August 2020 - 03:58 PM)

Its so fun watching past TF Conventions.

@  Bass X0 : (07 August 2020 - 02:20 PM)

I've been reading classic 80s G.I. Joe lately. Its still decent even though I don't have any nostalgia towards it.

@  Sabrblade : (07 August 2020 - 08:50 AM)

Think of it as Adam West Batman instead. ;)

@  wonko the sane? : (07 August 2020 - 07:49 AM)

That sounds more like the flash, or maybe booster gold than batman.

@  Sabrblade : (07 August 2020 - 12:27 AM)

They would get bored fighting each other and instead decide to take an epic cross-country road trip together.

@  RichardT1977 : (06 August 2020 - 08:57 PM)

What would happen if Batman were to fight Squirrel Girl?

@  PlutoniumBoss : (04 August 2020 - 09:03 PM)

Unless you count the Mask vs Lobo special, but that's less a duel and more a duet.

@  PlutoniumBoss : (04 August 2020 - 08:52 PM)

My favorite crossover fight was Thor vs Shazam/Captain Marvel. Early in the fight, Thor discovers that Billy Batson needs lightning to transform, and being a god of lightning he simply denies him that.

@  Sabrblade : (04 August 2020 - 08:46 PM)

Let's see a fight between Death Battle and Super Power Beat Down

@  TheMightyMol... : (04 August 2020 - 06:15 PM)

Which Lobo later claimed was because he was paid to take a dive. Yes, really.

@  TheMightyMol... : (04 August 2020 - 06:15 PM)

And then there's the times it's been decided by a fan vote, which is how we get things like Lobo (who can go toe-to-toe with Superman at full strength) losing to Wolverine.

@  Nevermore : (04 August 2020 - 05:49 PM)

And then there are the "but my favorite characater will totes win because I say so" people.

@  Nevermore : (04 August 2020 - 05:49 PM)

I mean, there are some people who really approach this from a somewhat reasonable standpoint, coming up with a plausible scenario and a setting that creates a fair environment that doesn't favor one character.

@  Nevermore : (04 August 2020 - 05:46 PM)

My favorite stupid "why would they even fight each other" question recently was about three versions of Optimus Prime (G1, Bayverse and Aligned).

@  Nevermore : (04 August 2020 - 05:45 PM)

Batman obviously can beat everyone. Even Galactus. He's Batman. He's so smart, he'll just throw a Batarang and hit the weak spot at Galactus's forehead, knocking him out instantaneously.

@  wonko the sane? : (04 August 2020 - 11:37 AM)

It's almost like all drama is just manufactured pissing contests to keep us all entertained and distracted. :p

@  Tm_Silverclaw : (04 August 2020 - 10:16 AM)

Or they could go White Ranger vs Scorpion route and have both win. ;P


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#1 TriBlurr

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Posted 06 June 2020 - 08:18 AM

Figured this might deserve its own topic.

https://www.tfw2005....verick.1194744/

Top Gun crossover figure called Maverick.

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Posted 06 June 2020 - 08:28 AM

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Posted 06 June 2020 - 08:33 AM

Bought despite hating Tom Cruise and hating Top Gun. :D



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Posted 06 June 2020 - 08:34 AM

Appropriately named. Just like the Battle Force 2000 character.

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Posted 06 June 2020 - 08:54 AM

Figured this might deserve its own topic.

https://www.tfw2005....verick.1194744/

Top Gun crossover figure called Maverick.

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Posted 06 June 2020 - 08:55 AM

If it doesn't come with a volleyball BotBot partner, then someone at Hasbro just isn't doing their job to the fullest.



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Posted 06 June 2020 - 08:57 AM

At first I saw the thread title and thought it was a fanfic idea.

 

Somehow I see this being repurposed by a lot of people as Gobots Leader 1, especially if the pilot helmet comes off.  Is this a retool of one of the MP seekers or Leader Jetfire family of molds, or is it totally new?  I don't have either to compare to.

 

None of this tempers my serious disappointment on the cancellation of the Crossovers/Loony Tunes line.  Just because it never actually existed and I made it all up doesn't take the sting out at all.

 

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Maybe they cancelled it as the toys kept failing the drop test off the cliff.



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Posted 06 June 2020 - 09:34 AM


I have never watched Top Gun (clips I've seen make it look awful) and am not a Tom Cruise fan so this is a pretty uninspiring follow up to the Ghostbusters crossover figure for me.

It's really gonna come down to what the Robot mode looks like if I'm gonna care. Can't tell enough from the box pic.

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Posted 06 June 2020 - 09:38 AM

Well, Maverick's a must buy for me.


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Posted 06 June 2020 - 09:41 AM

It better have the electronics needed to play the entirety of "Danger Zone" over and over and over and over (just like the movie).


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Posted 06 June 2020 - 09:54 AM

I like how Maverick's helmet is painted like the pilot helmet in the film.

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Posted 06 June 2020 - 10:02 AM

Maverick will definitely be a bit more tempting for me now. I wasn't too interested in Ectotron since his vehicle mode ends up way too big compared to mainline stuff, but jetformers are always wildly out-of-scale anyway. :wtf

 

Anybody figure out what figure Maverick might be remolded from? The box art gives him a rather movie-ish look, but the only large recent movie jetformer I can think of is Starscream. :hmm



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Posted 06 June 2020 - 10:18 AM

Hey, a Hasbro designed Valkyrie! Neat.

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Posted 06 June 2020 - 10:18 AM

I don't really think Ectotron was remold, he just reused some of the engineering from Hot Spot.

 

Perhaps that was more hassle than it was worth here and this is an entirely new design.

 

I like it so far. It'll be interesting to see the robot mode fully, but he looks pretty cool and like he'll slide in as an original character Autobot nicely.



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Posted 06 June 2020 - 10:20 AM

 
Anybody figure out what figure Maverick might be remolded from? The box art gives him a rather movie-ish look, but the only large recent movie jetformer I can think of is Starscream. :hmm


Studio Series Blitzwing is a possibility, but any part re-use might be pretty minimal. I think we'll have to wait to see a pic of the actual toy in robot mode.

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Posted 06 June 2020 - 10:24 AM

Maverick's cool and a definite buy, but probably would be more "wow" if Transformers didn't make F-14 and F-14alikes every other week.



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Posted 06 June 2020 - 10:24 AM

 
Studio Series Blitzwing is a possibility, but any part re-use might be pretty minimal. I think we'll have to wait to see a pic of the actual toy in robot mode. 
 

 

I suppose that's possible. The movie lines aren't normally allowed to be retooled into non-movie toys (or at least it's financially unattractive for Hasbro to do so without giving money to Paramount), but Top Gun is also a Paramount movie so maybe they've done a deal here.

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Posted 06 June 2020 - 10:28 AM

Given that this seems to be wings on back, cockpit chest, do they even need to reuse engineering? At this point they do that 5 times a year so could do it with their eyes closed.

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Posted 06 June 2020 - 10:42 AM

They didn't even make this on purpose. One of the designers just sat down to watch Top Gun and found it in his hands afterward.

Anyway, Top Gun might not have been high on anyone's "crossovers wanted" list (though I have a T-shirt that proves it isn't entirely unconsidered) but it's certainly a well-remembered property strongly associated with a specific vehicle. Nice to see that crossover toy logo really was a harbinger of things to come.

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Posted 06 June 2020 - 10:49 AM

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