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@  Sabrblade : (16 April 2021 - 09:19 AM)

This just happened to be the first time one ever gave up and walked away immediately after ringing the bell. Like, no patience at all or something.

@  Sabrblade : (16 April 2021 - 09:17 AM)

Covid didn't stop salespeople from coming to my neighborhood. They are still a consistent annoyance.

@  wonko the sane? : (16 April 2021 - 08:16 AM)

Random like "Why does god allow terrible things?" or random like "You can see them too?!?"?

@  Echowarrior : (16 April 2021 - 07:36 AM)

And yet, I still have to deal with random idiots on the street asking me random questions.

@  TM2-Megatron : (15 April 2021 - 04:04 PM)

door to door salesmen (or those offering religion) certainly are one of the things lost to COVID that I've missed the least

@  Sabrblade : (15 April 2021 - 10:07 AM)

They rang the bell and were walking away before I even got to the door mere seconds later.

@  Sabrblade : (15 April 2021 - 10:06 AM)

I just got ding-dong-ditched by a salesperson.

@  tigerhawk : (14 April 2021 - 01:20 AM)

Sure he's a peeping tom but every single Scottish person does it!

@  PlutoniumBoss : (13 April 2021 - 08:09 PM)

Groundskeeper Wheelie say you're going to taste my rake today!

@  TheMightyMol... : (13 April 2021 - 06:57 PM)

"If elected mayor, me first act will be ta KILL THA WHOLE LOT 'A YA, AND.......I know it's on!"

@  Steevy Maximus : (13 April 2021 - 01:57 PM)

Campaign slogan? "Its Willie time!"

@  tigerhawk : (13 April 2021 - 10:15 AM)

I'd vote for Groundskeeper Wullie.

@  Donocropolis : (13 April 2021 - 07:25 AM)

A comic, yes, but we need a figure!

@  Tm_Silverclaw : (13 April 2021 - 06:27 AM)

No.. It's Tiberious Maximus... And there is a comic with such already. :D

@  Donocropolis : (12 April 2021 - 11:15 AM)

Yes. Color it like the Energon version of Unicron. Also, give us Fortress Tiberious.

@  wonko the sane? : (12 April 2021 - 09:49 AM)

Great. Now I want a borg cube unicron...

@  Tm_Silverclaw : (12 April 2021 - 09:00 AM)

We still need Transformers x Star Trek toy.

@  TheMightyMol... : (12 April 2021 - 05:39 AM)

I saw most of them at retail at TRU, but that's not an option in the US anymore.

@  tigerhawk : (12 April 2021 - 04:21 AM)

Dibs on naming the Ark robot Arkonus.

@  Kalidor : (11 April 2021 - 09:48 PM)

The only Titan figure I ever saw at retail was Trypticon at Ollie's

@  PlutoniumBoss : (11 April 2021 - 09:12 PM)

Robosen Prime has market crossover with not just the toy collectors, but robotics enthusiasts quite willing to pay that price for a product like this.

@  wonko the sane? : (11 April 2021 - 08:33 PM)

One of my two local TRUs will stock exactly ONE titan at a time. It usually ends up "clearanced" for about 20 bucks off cause no one is willing to pay for at full price OR discounted.

@  TheMightyMol... : (11 April 2021 - 07:56 PM)

Most stores don't seem to want to stock Commanders or Titans, never mind Unicron.

@  NotVeryKnightly : (11 April 2021 - 07:55 PM)

I wonder if Unicron going to crowdfuning wasn't just a price issue but also stores not wanting to stock and transport something so huge.

@  TM2-Megatron : (11 April 2021 - 07:47 PM)

It is, although this thing could also be considered a STEM educational tool

@  TheMightyMol... : (11 April 2021 - 07:33 PM)

Doesn't change the fact that, for most people, $700 is a pretty hefty investment for a toy.

@  TM2-Megatron : (11 April 2021 - 07:17 PM)

I dunno, $700 doesn't seem that bad for what it does. Some of those Masterpiece figures seem to go for at least half that price, and they don't have any actual robots or even electronics.

@  TheMightyMol... : (11 April 2021 - 05:35 PM)

Not to mention wallet-shattering.

@  LBD "Nyt... : (11 April 2021 - 04:30 PM)

It's a jargon-shattering figure.

@  Kalidor : (10 April 2021 - 08:50 PM)

The licensed Optimus Prime that transforms itself is the appropriate usage of the term "Third Party"

@  Donocropolis : (10 April 2021 - 08:24 AM)

That Optimus isn't built by Hasbro, only licensed. The company that makes it has been making similar robots for years, so no crowdfundng required.

@  NotVeryKnightly : (10 April 2021 - 08:05 AM)

Apparently they're selling one for 74 and a half thousand dollars.

@  wonko the sane? : (10 April 2021 - 08:01 AM)

We could write boston dynamics and ask?

@  NotVeryKnightly : (10 April 2021 - 07:59 AM)

Granted, I'm not sure how much robots with elaborate movement tend to go for.

@  NotVeryKnightly : (10 April 2021 - 07:56 AM)

I think with actual robotics it was easier to justify selling it at a high cost, compared to an unusually large action figure.

@  Tm_Silverclaw : (10 April 2021 - 05:06 AM)

It is a very impressive display of robotics though.

@  tigerhawk : (10 April 2021 - 04:52 AM)

What were they thinking with that self transforming Optimus? should have been another crowd funder for that price.

@  tigerhawk : (08 April 2021 - 03:33 PM)

I wish they'd rerelease Earthrise Ramjet and Dirge.

@  wonko the sane? : (08 April 2021 - 03:04 PM)

Yay! optimus primal just arrived. So now there's... nothing for me to look forward to till scorponok drops... hmmm, I didn't think this through properly...

@  wonko the sane? : (07 April 2021 - 04:26 PM)

It's an older title which recently got a remake so...

@  -LittleAutob... : (07 April 2021 - 01:10 PM)

Ah yes- I think I've heard of that game before. I may be thinking about something else though.

@  wonko the sane? : (07 April 2021 - 08:03 AM)

It's a video game. You get hired to revive and restore a series of derelict space stations.

@  tigerhawk : (07 April 2021 - 07:05 AM)

I've got no idea what that is but yes.

@  wonko the sane? : (07 April 2021 - 06:34 AM)

so... literally the plot to startopia.

@  tigerhawk : (07 April 2021 - 02:32 AM)

Maybe if the Interstellar Alliance collapsed after the big burn and a 'benefactor' repurposed a space station as a commerce one. Oh wait...

@  PlutoniumBoss : (06 April 2021 - 04:35 PM)

Babylon 6?

@  Donocropolis : (06 April 2021 - 11:49 AM)

I'd rather have a Toilet Seat: TNG sequel series than an actual reboot. If something was done well the first time, don't give us the same-thing-but-worse, just give us something new on that bowl..

@  wonko the sane? : (06 April 2021 - 10:19 AM)

Context: my parents had the bathroom redone about a year ago (actually, almost exactly a year ago, as the project was about 4 days from complete and was interrupted by the first pandemic lockdown.). The ridiculous, fancy toilet seat they purchased has since develloped cracks in it and needs to be returned. Dad simply could not get the seat off himself... and see previous shout.

@  wonko the sane? : (06 April 2021 - 10:17 AM)

How to ruin somesones day with one question: Let someone work on a problem for about an hour and a half on their own, come to the realization they need an extra set of hands, ask for help, show you the problem and outright difficulty of it: then ask them "Hey, what does this button do?" and literally solve the two man dilema without doing any work.

@  Dekafox : (06 April 2021 - 09:22 AM)

As far as the TNT move, all of Season 5 was basically epilogue, which didn't help - when it looked like things were ending at Season 4 JMS tried to cram all the major plot threads for his original Season 4 and 5 plan into Season 4, which didn't leave them as much to work with for Season 5. Then TNT totally screwed with Crusade and got it killed before it got a chance to hit the real plot and nothing else really resonated enough to get a series push. A Crusade revival would be the best "B5:TNG" option IMO.


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Would It Be Terrible If Disney Owns Transformers


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#1 Roddie Luver

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Posted 03 June 2020 - 08:49 AM

It cant be all that bad.
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Posted 03 June 2020 - 09:08 AM

I'll pass.


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Posted 03 June 2020 - 09:19 AM

It worked so well for Power Rangers.

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Posted 03 June 2020 - 09:19 AM

on the one hand, it would increase the quality of the movies. which is good

on the other hand, it brings disney one step closer to monopolizing the very concept of Childhood. which is bad.



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Posted 03 June 2020 - 09:29 AM

i'd rather disney NOT own anything else, thank you very much.


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Posted 03 June 2020 - 09:59 AM

If Disney owned Transformers does that mean they own all of Hasbro? No way we would ever see Hasbro part with Transformers.

Realistically it wouldn't change much in the long run. G.I. Joe might be assimilated into Marvel since, as I understand, it borrows a lot from a rumored SHIELD vs Hydra pitch.

The idea that acquiring Hasbro would change the overall market by them having a monopoly is kinda silly since Hasbro and Disney are essentially the same Big Toy infrastructure already using all the same licensing and distribution and American brand-language. The Establishment, if you will.

We might get a new logo in front of the films but they didn't do that for Star Wars. Actually if you want to use Star Wars as an example of how Disney mishandled something, don't. Because that's dumb and a couple bad movies don't marginalize the rest of the brand including 3 shows.

If Disney bought Transformers then that would make the Transformer attractions at Universal strange as the Marvel attraction. Or now that I think about it, the Simpsons attraction.

Disney doesn't buy things to break them.
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Also neat:
https://www.titlemax...owns-worldwide/

AND if we're talking about a Disney acquisition of Hasbro, things are way more complicated since Hasbro has more IP than anybody can count and they recently bought eOne which itself was a giant company.

Although Disney and Hasbro have a very symbiotic and stable relationship there are a few fields where Hasbro and Disney were in opposition although I can't recall any specific examples of Pepsi/Coke off the top of my head.

Edited by Zodberg, 03 June 2020 - 10:13 AM.

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Posted 03 June 2020 - 10:13 AM

Disney gave us Gargoyles. 'Nuff said.

 

 

It worked so well for Power Rangers.

 

The Disney Era had more good seasons than bad ones. Dino Thunder, SPD, Jungle Fury, RPM. All were awesome seasons.


Edited by Sabrblade, 03 June 2020 - 10:49 AM.

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Posted 03 June 2020 - 10:38 AM

Um.... no.
 
I was actually thinking about this once upon a time,  but it doesn't seem like a good idea.

An idea that would most likley make TF fans say WHAT IS THIS? with a horrified expression.

But, if Disney were to make a live action TF like they did with some of their Disney classics, they would possibly stay true to the plot and character designs...

Unlike SOME....

And Hasbro already kills of many characters in one continuity ALONE, we dont need the Parent killing DISNEY to own ONE MORE FANDOM AND MAKE MORE CHARACTERS DIE.
 
HASBRO IS GREAT AS A SOLO COMPANY.
 
HECK, PLUS DISNEY ALREADY OWNS MARVEL, STAR WARS, NATIONAL GEO
 
 
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Posted 03 June 2020 - 10:44 AM

I can't believe the Disney reboot of Nat Geo killed off David Attenborough smh


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Posted 03 June 2020 - 10:52 AM

I doubt it would make any particular difference to anything in the long run.



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Posted 03 June 2020 - 11:06 AM

I doubt it would make any particular difference to anything in the long run.


Possibly... i still dont know, though.

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Posted 03 June 2020 - 11:11 AM

I can't believe the Disney reboot of Nat Geo killed off David Attenborough smh

*sees Jeff Goldblum used to represent Nat Geo everywhere*

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Posted 03 June 2020 - 11:31 AM

Disney bought Power Rangers then decided they didn't want it and choked the life out of it. The current upswing is because they got away from Disney rather than because of it. Without the neosaban era it'd be Disney+ archive fodder.

If Disney got Transformers, we'd see a middling to good cartoon series and better than Michael Bay movies, things we're getting already, only with the sword of Damocles hanging over the brand at all times because it's not Marvel, not Pixar or created in house 50 years ago so it's one or two underwhelming performances away from becoming archive material.

At least with Hasbro the health of the brand is a priority and they are super unlikely to give up any time soon.


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Posted 03 June 2020 - 11:50 AM

The corporate consolidation we've seen over the last few decades is outright toxic. It puts the final say on what kind of content and products you can consume in the hands of an increasingly smaller and smaller group of people.

Recall a few years back when the Disney executive in charge of Marvel decided girls don't sell in this boys franchise, and worked to remove Black Widow from the Age of Ultron toyline, while also standing in the way of a female lead film being produced until the ass-end of Phase 3. Kevin Fiege managed to have enough clout to get out from under that dude, but he was also the guy in charge of the single-most lucrative film franchise in history. Even then, stuff got ripped from his hands, like the firing of James Gunn, which took a several years and a lot of maneuvering to undo.

Now, all that said, the current Ducktales cartoon may genuinely be the best TV show (let alone children's cartoon) I have ever seen, so great stuff can still come out of the monolith. But only if it doesn't run afoul of Disney's board or investors.

Hasbro is doing fine right now. We just got a pretty good kids cartoon, a comic that was getting good right up until the pandemic hit, a renewed movie franchise, and a toyline that, while reptitive an slavish to G1, is still putting out some impressive figures and giving us characters I would have figured we'd never see a decade ago.

And hey, maybe that Netflix show won't suck! (Isn't that supposed to be out this month? I didn't see an announcement of an official delay yet.)

Though, honestly, if this were to happen, I'd be more interested in Marvel getting the rights to ROM back than anything else. An MCU ROM film would get me back into the MCU like nobodies business.

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Posted 03 June 2020 - 01:12 PM

If Disney did buy Hasbro, which is unlikely to happen, what I can see happening is:

 

Gi Joe is locked away in a box of non profitable brands and sold off because the higher ups would view the brand as war provoganda or simply does not fit with their family friendly image on the international stage

 

Disney will seriously push MLP and make Twilight Sparkle a Disney Princess, even if she is a pony

 

Transformers, I think could suffer on the toy front as the prices will likely go up even more as you got to pay for the Disney brand on top of Hasbro and Transformers, TV shows will end up on Disney Channel or Disney+ depending if its more for the fans or for younger children, we'll see more Disney themed Transformers. Movies will likely be more family friendly and could end up being CGI & 2D combined instead of live action

 

Power Rangers would contuine but the question of the people behind it having the will to make good content to try and rival some of the superior older series

 

Board games could become movies or TV shows as they take another shot at them

 

The less well known brands that not been pushed for a long time could end up being sold off as Disney seeks to make money and likely deem many of those brands non profitable

 

Star Wars mech will contuined to be made but the question over the brand long term will be raised and as currently much of the sequel era stuff will not be produced for it doesn't sell and it be original, prequels, Clone Wars, Rebels and Manalorian, plus whatever is considered good by the fans of the property.

 

 

 

My personal view, on the matter is, I think Disney & Hasbro would be better off as completely seperate companies, at the moment, Disney got far to big and to fast that they weren't in a secure place when the crisses hit but out of their four big buys, only two have really produced long term profitabilty those being Pixar & Marvel, while Fox remains a question mark currently, but Star Wars, could of been better if they had a proper plan for their sequels and not wanting to have a cash grab!


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Posted 03 June 2020 - 01:42 PM

Bye bye 3rd party stuff if Disney ever took control...



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Posted 03 June 2020 - 01:43 PM

on the one hand, it would increase the quality of the movies. which is good

on the other hand, it brings disney one step closer to monopolizing the very concept of Childhood. which is bad.

Why would the quality of the movies improve?


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Posted 03 June 2020 - 02:25 PM

One could imagine them making a three-movement story cycle where the last part undoes the biggest change made by the part before it.


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Posted 03 June 2020 - 02:32 PM

One could imagine them making a three-movement story cycle where the last part undoes the biggest change made by the part before it.

 

Hey, that sounds just like Return of the Jedi! :p


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I think the concept of being educated and being able to educate is something that more people need more of in their lives.

No, we don't all know everything but we should spread and share that what we do know.

If I'm consistently misspelling a word, I would want and expect people to correct me as should I imagine all decent people who know the value of good literacy.

Its just arrogant laziness to know you're spelling a word incorrectly and not correct yourself or ignore the advice when people do tell you how to spell a word correctly.

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Posted 03 June 2020 - 03:31 PM

If Disney took control of Transformers couldn't that potentially open an opportunity for Death's Head to participate in the comics again?

 

Even if, still wouldn't be on board with it. Disney owns too much as it is.





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