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@  SG Roadbuster : (08 August 2020 - 01:53 PM)

@Nevermore yes.

@  Nevermore : (08 August 2020 - 09:11 AM)

Is $30 a good deal for Subscription Service Breakdown?

@  Trpodeca : (08 August 2020 - 06:24 AM)

Oh dear God no. Twitter has changed it's default layout to the terrible new one. Why waste so much space on the left?

@  Steevy Maximus : (07 August 2020 - 08:28 PM)

@Bass X0, yeah, the Joe comic got REALLY solid in the upper 20s to the Cobra Civil War. It's interesting to see how well the Joe comic has aged relative to the cartoon. Where as I feel the opposite is true of Transformers

@  -LittleAutob... : (07 August 2020 - 03:58 PM)

Its so fun watching past TF Conventions.

@  Bass X0 : (07 August 2020 - 02:20 PM)

I've been reading classic 80s G.I. Joe lately. Its still decent even though I don't have any nostalgia towards it.

@  Sabrblade : (07 August 2020 - 08:50 AM)

Think of it as Adam West Batman instead. ;)

@  wonko the sane? : (07 August 2020 - 07:49 AM)

That sounds more like the flash, or maybe booster gold than batman.

@  Sabrblade : (07 August 2020 - 12:27 AM)

They would get bored fighting each other and instead decide to take an epic cross-country road trip together.

@  RichardT1977 : (06 August 2020 - 08:57 PM)

What would happen if Batman were to fight Squirrel Girl?

@  PlutoniumBoss : (04 August 2020 - 09:03 PM)

Unless you count the Mask vs Lobo special, but that's less a duel and more a duet.

@  PlutoniumBoss : (04 August 2020 - 08:52 PM)

My favorite crossover fight was Thor vs Shazam/Captain Marvel. Early in the fight, Thor discovers that Billy Batson needs lightning to transform, and being a god of lightning he simply denies him that.

@  Sabrblade : (04 August 2020 - 08:46 PM)

Let's see a fight between Death Battle and Super Power Beat Down

@  TheMightyMol... : (04 August 2020 - 06:15 PM)

Which Lobo later claimed was because he was paid to take a dive. Yes, really.

@  TheMightyMol... : (04 August 2020 - 06:15 PM)

And then there's the times it's been decided by a fan vote, which is how we get things like Lobo (who can go toe-to-toe with Superman at full strength) losing to Wolverine.

@  Nevermore : (04 August 2020 - 05:49 PM)

And then there are the "but my favorite characater will totes win because I say so" people.

@  Nevermore : (04 August 2020 - 05:49 PM)

I mean, there are some people who really approach this from a somewhat reasonable standpoint, coming up with a plausible scenario and a setting that creates a fair environment that doesn't favor one character.

@  Nevermore : (04 August 2020 - 05:46 PM)

My favorite stupid "why would they even fight each other" question recently was about three versions of Optimus Prime (G1, Bayverse and Aligned).

@  Nevermore : (04 August 2020 - 05:45 PM)

Batman obviously can beat everyone. Even Galactus. He's Batman. He's so smart, he'll just throw a Batarang and hit the weak spot at Galactus's forehead, knocking him out instantaneously.

@  wonko the sane? : (04 August 2020 - 11:37 AM)

It's almost like all drama is just manufactured pissing contests to keep us all entertained and distracted. :p

@  Tm_Silverclaw : (04 August 2020 - 10:16 AM)

Or they could go White Ranger vs Scorpion route and have both win. ;P

@  ▲ndrusi : (04 August 2020 - 09:35 AM)

Besides, we all know the answer is nearly always "they fight to a standstill and then team up against a common enemy."

@  ▲ndrusi : (04 August 2020 - 09:29 AM)

The best way to prove this is to give an example where the match is really lopsided in favor of one character but in popularity they're either evenly matched or the weaker one is more popular.

@  ▲ndrusi : (04 August 2020 - 09:27 AM)

The "who would win in a fight" discussions are really just people trying to make "which one's better" into something you can theoretically measure objectively, usually in a very specific way they think they've predetermined their favorite will win.

@  Otaku : (04 August 2020 - 02:01 AM)

@Nevermore So... you're saying you didn't like DC Versus Marvel/Marvel Versus DC?

@  Steevy Maximus : (03 August 2020 - 06:59 PM)

So, what happened to Hasbro's Zoids relaunch? An English dub, some stuff in southeast Asia, and now a game coming in October? That it?

@  wonko the sane? : (03 August 2020 - 10:46 AM)

Tidal wave, cause shooting water gets you nowhere.

@  Darth Gonzo : (03 August 2020 - 09:57 AM)

Who would win Tidal Wave or Broadside?

@  -LittleAutob... : (03 August 2020 - 08:17 AM)

Btw Happy birthday to those people in the box to the right \o/

@  -LittleAutob... : (03 August 2020 - 08:16 AM)

The bottom line is obvious. It makes no literal sense to fight someone on your faction. :/

@  wonko the sane? : (03 August 2020 - 06:14 AM)

That's because you're doing it wrong. You're supposed to just stack skills and ability against each other. It's not the palace of doom, it's an episode of american gladiators.

@  Nevermore : (03 August 2020 - 04:32 AM)

The only obvious winners of such a fight would be the bad guys.

@  Nevermore : (03 August 2020 - 04:29 AM)

And what does it even matter? They should work together, not stupidly fight each other for the mindless entertainment of idiot onlookers.

@  Nevermore : (03 August 2020 - 04:29 AM)

Why would two good guys fight each other? What are they fighting over?

@  Nevermore : (03 August 2020 - 04:28 AM)

I never understood these "who would win in a fight between two good guys" discussions. They make no sense to me.

@  Maximus Ambus : (02 August 2020 - 04:17 PM)

If G1 had continued we'd have had Starscream back in spirit - through Krunk, Snapdragons partner and possibly Skullcruncher unless he was mute.

@  Bass X0 : (02 August 2020 - 12:28 PM)

There are some decent impersonators in fandubs though.

@  -LittleAutob... : (02 August 2020 - 10:45 AM)

The only true Starscream voices are Steve Blum and Chris Latta, hands down.

@  Sabrblade : (02 August 2020 - 10:14 AM)

Why they didn't have Scott McNeil voicing that Starscream, when he was the one who had imitated Chris Latta when he voiced Cobra Commander in the DiC G.I. Joe cartoon, is beyond me.

@  wonko the sane? : (02 August 2020 - 09:57 AM)

Say what you will, that was an awesome scene.

@  Maximus Ambus : (02 August 2020 - 08:36 AM)

Beast Wars Starsream "I am AIR COMMANDER Starscream of the DECEPTICON BATTLEFLEET!"

@  Nevermore : (02 August 2020 - 07:02 AM)

I liked TF: Prime Starscream.

@  -LittleAutob... : (01 August 2020 - 08:36 PM)

Hearing Starscream's screechy voice in Cyberverse has to be the most annoying thing ever in Transformers. Even his G1 voice wasn't as bad. :doh

@  -LittleAutob... : (01 August 2020 - 08:35 PM)

KUP!

@  Sabrblade : (01 August 2020 - 04:58 PM)

Urkel!

@  TheMightyMol... : (01 August 2020 - 03:16 PM)

Steeeeeeeeve.

@  PlutoniumBoss : (01 August 2020 - 02:57 AM)

LEEEROOOOOOOOY! jhenkenz...

@  Hg Dragon : (01 August 2020 - 01:21 AM)

Candleja-

@  Sabrblade : (31 July 2020 - 11:02 PM)

Beetlejuice! Beetlejuice! Beetlejuice!

@  Echowarrior : (31 July 2020 - 10:18 PM)

Spongebob!


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#1 TriBlurr

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Posted 27 May 2020 - 10:33 PM

Teased during their [email protected] stream

 

 

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#2 Sabrblade

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Posted 27 May 2020 - 10:45 PM

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QUOTE(Bass X0 @ Aug 17 2013, 08:20 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I think the concept of being educated and being able to educate is something that more people need more of in their lives.

No, we don't all know everything but we should spread and share that what we do know.

If I'm consistently misspelling a word, I would want and expect people to correct me as should I imagine all decent people who know the value of good literacy.

Its just arrogant laziness to know you're spelling a word incorrectly and not correct yourself or ignore the advice when people do tell you how to spell a word correctly.

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Posted 28 May 2020 - 01:46 AM

Like the movie proposal, I'm not sure I need more Beast Wars. Unlike G1, I feel like the original series was such a singular thing that stands incredibly well on its own, and it has such a definite beginning and end.

I'm not sure what they could offer with this comic that I'd want. A reboot? Not really, they nailed it the first time. Various side stories or stuff in-between the cracks? Eh, I'm not sure I need it, even factoring in dark glass. Some sort of elseworlds sequel series where Beast Machines didn't happen? Not particularly compelling to me.

I hope I'm wrong and they come up with something that gets me jazzed. I just don't see what that could be at the moment.

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Posted 28 May 2020 - 02:56 AM

My current big hope is an expansion on the 1DW Eukaris colony but set in 2DW and inviting the Animatros folks along.

 

All with Organic alt-modes because that's a cool aesthetic.


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Posted 28 May 2020 - 02:58 AM

I hope it's good and that it becomes an ongoing series.



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Posted 28 May 2020 - 04:36 AM

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Are the stars aligning for a mainline Beast Wars toyline happening sometime give or take a year?


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#7 NICK NEMESIS

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Posted 28 May 2020 - 02:20 PM

My philosophy towards all transformers series remains the same.

I will take a good story wherever it finds me.
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Posted 28 May 2020 - 04:49 PM

We're all going to have to be a little less GEEWUN about Beast Wars.

(Yeah I said it. BW now is much older than G1 was when the Beast era ended. If they can keep character archetypes and the "feel" of the story, I'd be happy with it.)

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Posted 28 May 2020 - 05:05 PM

They could do to Beast Wars what Beast Wars did to G1/G2: Make a completely new cast of original characters whose only similarity to what came before is that they transform (but in this case, transform specifically into organic-looking beast modes).


Edited by Sabrblade, 28 May 2020 - 10:38 PM.

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QUOTE(Bass X0 @ Aug 17 2013, 08:20 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I think the concept of being educated and being able to educate is something that more people need more of in their lives.

No, we don't all know everything but we should spread and share that what we do know.

If I'm consistently misspelling a word, I would want and expect people to correct me as should I imagine all decent people who know the value of good literacy.

Its just arrogant laziness to know you're spelling a word incorrectly and not correct yourself or ignore the advice when people do tell you how to spell a word correctly.

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Posted 28 May 2020 - 05:19 PM

Honestly, I'd like to see the current state of affairs and the relationships between maximals and Predacons play out on Cybertron while the actual Beast Wars are playing out on Earth, but that is a rather niche, selfish desire of mine.
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Posted 28 May 2020 - 05:32 PM

I have no idea what I would want from a new BW comic, but it isn't any of the things I can think of, so I hope whoever's in charge is more creative than I am.

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Posted 28 May 2020 - 07:15 PM

Every non-show character shows up on prehistoric Earth for a couple of impossibly giant battles, in which the beloved regular BW cast only put in brief appearances to mostly show how oblivious they are to the main events of the book.

Then everybody leaves without providing any long-term assistance to their respective sides.
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Posted 28 May 2020 - 08:32 PM

Like the movie proposal, I'm not sure I need more Beast Wars. Unlike G1, I feel like the original series was such a singular thing that stands incredibly well on its own, and it has such a definite beginning and end.

I'm not sure what they could offer with this comic that I'd want. A reboot? Not really, they nailed it the first time. Various side stories or stuff in-between the cracks? Eh, I'm not sure I need it, even factoring in dark glass. Some sort of elseworlds sequel series where Beast Machines didn't happen? Not particularly compelling to me.

I hope I'm wrong and they come up with something that gets me jazzed. I just don't see what that could be at the moment.

And I think that is the EXACT reason we need new Beast Wars fiction.  EVERY single new piece of fiction we've gotten (in the mass market) has tip toed around the original cartoon, never daring to touch the characters or events.

Are there not new ways to view that franchise?  Maybe something more akin to Transformers Animated, where Primal and his crew get caught up in Megatron's schemes to upend the Pax Cybertronia Cold War?  Instead of being SOLELY about Megatron's attempts to rewrite history, maybe we get stories where he IS legitimately looking for Energon reserves, adding weight to the fact Maximals and Predacons had to downsize, adopt organic components (as a means of supplementing their energy intake) and more heavily use ammunition based weapons as a result of the Autobot and Decepticon conflicts.  That would also help add to Megatron's disdain for organic components.  Instead of transwarp being a common engine, maybe make it something rare that would justify Megatron building influence to steal one to change the past.

There's a lot of different ways to approach the characters and world that have never been explored because nobody seems willing to move beyond the cartoon's canonicity.

 

Some of the best G1 Transformers fiction has come in recent years where Hasbro just let IDW free to explore the world WITHOUT being constrained to the same characters or the same old conflicts.  And I think the franchise, as a whole, benefitted from it.

I'd like to see the same thing happen with Beast Wars.  Let's see what new writers and new perspectives can do with those characters and world without being constrained by what has happened in the past.



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Posted 28 May 2020 - 10:32 PM

Every non-show character shows up on prehistoric Earth for a couple of impossibly giant battles, in which the beloved regular BW cast only put in brief appearances to mostly show how oblivious they are to the main events of the book.

Then everybody leaves without providing any long-term assistance to their respective sides.

 

...but, enough about The Gathering and The Ascending.


Edited by Sabrblade, 28 May 2020 - 10:39 PM.

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QUOTE(Bass X0 @ Aug 17 2013, 08:20 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I think the concept of being educated and being able to educate is something that more people need more of in their lives.

No, we don't all know everything but we should spread and share that what we do know.

If I'm consistently misspelling a word, I would want and expect people to correct me as should I imagine all decent people who know the value of good literacy.

Its just arrogant laziness to know you're spelling a word incorrectly and not correct yourself or ignore the advice when people do tell you how to spell a word correctly.

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Posted 29 May 2020 - 02:05 AM

I wonder if Quackles will be used as a Predacon in this new comic series or if they won't have a Rubber Ducky at all in the comic series.



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Posted 29 May 2020 - 08:53 AM

Jack Lawrence had an alternate Beast Wars comic forever ago that I enjoyed.

Ideally I'd love this new comic to just take a wildly different approach. I'd also love them to radically change every character's personality. Let it truly be an alternate universe that is just so different it can't be compared to the original and let it stand on its own.
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Posted 29 May 2020 - 10:44 AM

Jack Lawrence had an alternate Beast Wars comic forever ago that I enjoyed.

What was that one like?

Ideally I'd love this new comic to just take a wildly different approach. I'd also love them to radically change every character's personality. Let it truly be an alternate universe that is just so different it can't be compared to the original and let it stand on its own.

Like Beast Wars: Uprising!
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QUOTE(Bass X0 @ Aug 17 2013, 08:20 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I think the concept of being educated and being able to educate is something that more people need more of in their lives.

No, we don't all know everything but we should spread and share that what we do know.

If I'm consistently misspelling a word, I would want and expect people to correct me as should I imagine all decent people who know the value of good literacy.

Its just arrogant laziness to know you're spelling a word incorrectly and not correct yourself or ignore the advice when people do tell you how to spell a word correctly.

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Posted 29 May 2020 - 10:55 AM

I'd like to see them do the world of the original bat/croc pack-in comics and early tech-specs.

Set on Post-G2 1990s Modern Earth. G1 Optimus and Megs raid genetics labs to become a bat and crocodile. Tarantulas is a Ninja. Everyone has a robot head but sometimes mutate into their "Mutant Monster" alt heads.

-ZacWilliam, totally different storyline and use lots of non- show or even all new non-toy guys.

EDIT - and RiD Steeljaw should absolutely be there as the wolf in Megatron's fold.

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Posted 29 May 2020 - 11:18 AM

Beast machines prequel, please.



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Posted 29 May 2020 - 11:46 AM

In case anyone didn't watch the section of the video in question, here's a transcription of the conversation:

 

Ryall: Yeah, I mean, I don't know if there's other Transformers plans you want to discuss here or not... But maybe uh... Beast Wars has an anniversary coming up, if I'm not mistaken.

 
Barber: It does, yes. And that is something that we... wanna maybe sorta talk about is... I think this is, I don't think we've talked about this anywhere. There'll be a new Beast Wars series coming very soon. I know more details about it. *laughs* I know a little more about it than that. But we're not ready to tell anything. But, yeah, it's gonna be the anniversary of Beast Wars. I think that's a... It's such a huge thing, worldwide. "Beast Mode", everybody knows what that means and... Yeah, it'll be exciting to come back into that world. You know, over the years, we've had a lot of the characters show up. I, personally, have given short shrift to a lot of those Beast Wars characters in stories I've written. Sorry. This won't be that. This will be genuine genuine Beast Wars that I think a lot of people grew up with and a lot of people love.
 
Ryall: I mean, that's kinda the cool thing about Transformers as a whole, you know, there's the Beast Wars fans that are rabid for more Beast Wars, and the UK fans grew up loving that [as in, the Marvel UK G1 comics], and the fans of the, you know, the main book we've been doing, or all the other iterations, and so... It's great that there's not only audiences for all of this kind of content but also that there's the passion from the fans that wanna keep seeing more of all of it, so...
 
Barber: I mean, for a lot of our Transformers creators, Beast Wars, I mean, for years, Beast Wars has been the stuff people grew up with. Like, that was what introduced them to this world.

Edited by Sabrblade, 29 May 2020 - 11:46 AM.

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QUOTE(Bass X0 @ Aug 17 2013, 08:20 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I think the concept of being educated and being able to educate is something that more people need more of in their lives.

No, we don't all know everything but we should spread and share that what we do know.

If I'm consistently misspelling a word, I would want and expect people to correct me as should I imagine all decent people who know the value of good literacy.

Its just arrogant laziness to know you're spelling a word incorrectly and not correct yourself or ignore the advice when people do tell you how to spell a word correctly.



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