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@  TheMightyMol... : (14 August 2020 - 02:47 AM)

Fake news, no shinobi.

@  Sabrblade : (13 August 2020 - 10:31 PM)

Turns out the President set the whole thing up as a publicity stunt. Very rude.

@  PlutoniumBoss : (13 August 2020 - 08:11 PM)

The ninjas will go away, it will be fine.

@  Paladin : (13 August 2020 - 08:02 PM)

listen; i'm sure there were very fine ninjas on both sides.

@  TheMightyMol... : (13 August 2020 - 07:50 PM)

My thoughts and prayers go out to the ninjas.

@  Cybersnark : (13 August 2020 - 06:36 PM)

Can we just let them have him?

@  Bass X0 : (13 August 2020 - 06:18 PM)

The president has been kidnapped by ninjas. Are you a bad enough dude to rescue the president?

@  Otaku : (13 August 2020 - 03:08 PM)

At first, I obviously thought I was correct.  Then I thought perhaps the spelling had changed for some reason.  Copyright/trademark law is weird, ya know?  Now I just accept I goofed. XD

@  Otaku : (13 August 2020 - 03:07 PM)

See, that one directly applies to me.  Apparently, I'd been misreading and mispronouncing it wrong for over 30 years... and I still slip and do it the wrong way much of the time.

@  Paladin : (13 August 2020 - 07:37 AM)

for the Internet age its the "Berenstain" Effect.

@  Bass X0 : (12 August 2020 - 01:49 PM)

Can you root for what The Rock is cooking!?

@  -LittleAutob... : (12 August 2020 - 10:35 AM)

sOmEoNe NoTiCeD-

@  wonko the sane? : (12 August 2020 - 07:37 AM)

I am the only one rooting for the rock these days?

@  Maximus Ambus : (12 August 2020 - 12:37 AM)

Sour grapes for the next decade until Apophis hits.

@  Hg Dragon : (11 August 2020 - 11:26 PM)

Thank yoo for vatching hydroolic pthress chan-nel.

@  Hg Dragon : (11 August 2020 - 11:19 PM)

Hey, do you have any grapes?

@  Otaku : (11 August 2020 - 05:18 PM)

I dunno... it sounds kind of quackers to me.

@  -LittleAutob... : (11 August 2020 - 05:17 PM)

That would be nice....

@  TheMightyMol... : (11 August 2020 - 04:36 PM)

I wish I could just sit by a pond and watch ducks for a while.

@  Maximus Ambus : (11 August 2020 - 03:52 AM)

Others say Joe sat down at this pond next to these ducks but really there's just no place in this world for an old man and his ducks.

@  Nevermore : (10 August 2020 - 06:48 PM)

Even worse when I can produce those verifiable facts at a later point, and then the other person simply claims the argument was the other way round (as in, I was actually arguing their position and vice versa).

@  Nevermore : (10 August 2020 - 06:47 PM)

I can argue with people about my versus their memory of events when verifiable facts are not readily available, though, and I get really annoyed when I'm capable of presenting a precise, step-by-step summary with multiple key points that can be used for future verification, and the other person just goes "nope, wrong" without going into detail.

@  Nevermore : (10 August 2020 - 06:45 PM)

I forget things, and I misremember things. But when presented with verifiable facts, my reaction is more like "Huh, could have sworn it was like that", not "this reality is not my own".

@  Nevermore : (10 August 2020 - 06:43 PM)

I have an extremely good memory (which I have proven time and again), and even I can be mistaken.

@  NotVeryKnightly : (10 August 2020 - 06:40 PM)

Might be worth pointing out that it only became "Mandela Effect" and not just "I remembered this wrong" when a conspiracy theorist insisted it was proof of alternate timelines.

@  Otaku : (10 August 2020 - 06:29 PM)

Incorrectly remembering Nelson Mandela's fate may be uniquely American... but is it really that strange to get South African political history wrong when you're no where near South Africa?

@  Otaku : (10 August 2020 - 06:29 PM)

I always assumed the Mandela Effect was a "human thing", not an American thing.

@  wonko the sane? : (10 August 2020 - 02:03 PM)

Then there are people who outright manufacture memories for whatever reason.

@  PlutoniumBoss : (10 August 2020 - 01:13 PM)

The human brain is so flaky that it is extremely unlikely that a given person does NOT have any false memories.

@  OverDrive73 : (10 August 2020 - 01:05 PM)

Perhaps it's simple word association the movie Sinbad and then our minds apply the same memories to a man named Sinbad.

@  OverDrive73 : (10 August 2020 - 01:04 PM)

The Mandela Effect is the same as people remembering Sinbad in a movie where he played a genie... Of which he never did.

@  MidnightFox : (10 August 2020 - 09:36 AM)

People that believe Mandela Effect things would rather come up with any number of reasons as to why their version doesn't have any actual evidence(like alternate timelines collapsing into our own) than just admit they remembered something wrong

@  MidnightFox : (10 August 2020 - 09:35 AM)

Sort of. It's more that when presented with a verifiable fact, they double down because it's what they believe instead of changing their minds

@  ▲ndrusi : (10 August 2020 - 09:25 AM)

"I could have sworn that ______."

@  ▲ndrusi : (10 August 2020 - 09:25 AM)

I'm not arguing with either of those two statements, but they're not really connected. Mandela Effect is, to oversimplify, people being widely mistaken about what they think *is* a verifiable fact. Nothing to do with opinions.

@  MidnightFox : (10 August 2020 - 08:52 AM)

Pretty sure the Mandela Effect in general is an American thing. Opinion > Verifiable Facts is sadly a pretty American thing

@  Nevermore : (10 August 2020 - 04:27 AM)

Ask these people how Apartheid ended according to their recollection, and I'm sure they'll draw a blank.

@  Nevermore : (10 August 2020 - 04:25 AM)

You got two black anti-Apartheid activists who were imprisoned by the oppressive regime. One died, the other was Nelson Mandela. It's not a far stretch that Americans who don't know many details about the history of other countries would mix up the two.

@  Nevermore : (10 August 2020 - 04:24 AM)

My own theory is that these people are simply mixing up Nelson Mandela and Steve Biko, another South African anti-Apartheid activist, who did indeed die in police custody in 1977. There was an Oscar-nominated movie about his life starring Denzel Washington that came out in 1987, the same time frame these people claim remembering Mandela dying.

@  Nevermore : (10 August 2020 - 04:17 AM)

I met a few people from South Africa, and they either never heard of the phenomenon at all, or only know of it from the internet. Apparently, it's completely unknown in South Africa, and it might even be entirely limited to the United States.

@  Nevermore : (10 August 2020 - 04:16 AM)

So does anyone remember the "Mandela Effect"? I'm talking specifically about the original case where many people vividly remember Nelson Mandela dying in prison in the 1980s.

@  Tm_Silverclaw : (10 August 2020 - 03:16 AM)

Crisis of Corona.

@  TheMightyMol... : (09 August 2020 - 06:16 PM)

Which crisis crossover are we on now? I lost track.

@  Rycochet : (09 August 2020 - 05:18 PM)

Much of the past decade has been the part of the comic series where less than stellar authors have driven the series into the ground and the editors are getting ready to either do a big multi issue crossover, leading to a reboot.

@  Bass X0 : (09 August 2020 - 02:28 PM)

At this point I've just decided to consider 2020 "not canon."

@  TheMightyMol... : (09 August 2020 - 02:18 PM)

'member Pepperidge Farm?

@  Maximus Ambus : (09 August 2020 - 02:10 PM)

Before the 'member berries there was Pepperidge farm. Pepperidge farm remembers.

@  OverDrive73 : (09 August 2020 - 12:21 PM)

>>>Shameless Plug<<< FYI. posted the last part of Quest for Tires in Allspark Pictures

@  SG Roadbuster : (08 August 2020 - 01:53 PM)

@Nevermore yes.

@  Nevermore : (08 August 2020 - 09:11 AM)

Is $30 a good deal for Subscription Service Breakdown?


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#81 (Deactivated) Morningstar

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Posted 28 October 2006 - 05:57 PM

If I spent the money to get all those exclusives. I would KEEP THEM. I don't sell transformers to make Profit. I buy transformers becuase I like them.


You support FP and there extortionist policies.. Fine be my guest.. but I don't. and Will never.

As for why I'm glad I never signed up at a Joe Forum? The same reason I'm sorry I signed up at a Transformers Forum.


I'm a brick wall, Keep shouting and you will go Hoarse.

Edited by Morningstar, 28 October 2006 - 05:57 PM.


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Posted 28 October 2006 - 06:30 PM

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You support FP and there extortionist policies.. Fine be my guest.. but I don't. and Will never.


No offense but coming from someone who thought the prices were hideous before going. Having gone... it really is worth it. The prices aren't that hideous in all honesty (And even my spendthrift hubby said the same thing. You get what you pay for really... and you make the experience what you want it to be). I do think they should maybe toss in the con T-shirt in the mix. As shirts usually don't cost that much to produce. But what the hey. I'll deal.

If you like the toys keep them. Such as this years set I love. Was my first Botcon. Keeping the toys. Next year. Hell I might get an extra set to sell, and if I don't like them. WHOOHOO. Why not... it'll fund my dealer room adventures.

Edited by Waspinator's Muse, 28 October 2006 - 06:35 PM.

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Posted 28 October 2006 - 10:30 PM

QUOTE(Morningstar @ Oct 28 2006, 05:57 PM) View Post

If I spent the money to get all those exclusives. I would KEEP THEM. I don't sell transformers to make Profit. I buy transformers becuase I like them.


You support FP and there extortionist policies.. Fine be my guest.. but I don't. and Will never.

As for why I'm glad I never signed up at a Joe Forum? The same reason I'm sorry I signed up at a Transformers Forum.


I'm a brick wall, Keep shouting and you will go Hoarse.


Hey, what does Savage and the gang know anyway? Their extortionist policies are going to drive Botcon into the ground. No one will want to attend. Pay no mind to the fact that they just hosted what was arguably the biggest and most successful Con ever. Despite having a hefty ticket for entry, despite being in the fall instead of the summer, and despite people like you who have made up their mind they are going to hate it no matter what kind of reasoned response they are given. You want to cover your ears and shout at the top of your lungs "LALALALALALA" while people talk with you reasonably....thats your right. Just don't expect people to hang around for very long and continue to converse. I also wouldn't expect them to have an ear for you when you actually do have a legitimate complaint or suggestion.

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Posted 28 October 2006 - 10:37 PM

Look, I don't care. I've allready voiced my legitimate complaints. Just becuase you see nothing wrong with forking over that kinda money, good for you.


This is the internet, I don't expect people to pay attention to my complaints. I don't expect people to read my posts, I don't expect people to do anything.

I'm here to make myself heard and everyone else be damned.

#85 Thylacine 2000

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Posted 28 October 2006 - 11:13 PM


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I don't expect people to read my posts. I'm here to make myself heard.

I'm sorry I signed up at a Transformers Forum.


Fun Publications should be overjoyed, if the above is the caliber of criticism aimed their way.



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Posted 28 October 2006 - 11:18 PM

They are a Company, They don't have feelings they have Profits and Bottom lines. So quite Frankly I don't care what Fun Publications is. I simply don't like their buisness model.. but as with anything else in this Fandom.. if you disagree with the mob mentality you are evil and mean and worthy of derision.


And yes, I'm sorry this is a Transformers Forum. But I didn't sign up at the allspark for the Transformers. I signed up becuase it has a P&R forum, aswell as still providing me with adequete news coverage of toys, Video games and comic books.


*edit* And not to sound ungrateful for all the attention I'm suddenly getting.. But isn't this threads purpose to bitch about the gijoe fans bitching that they got stuck with the Fall con?

Edited by Morningstar, 28 October 2006 - 11:26 PM.


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Posted 28 October 2006 - 11:25 PM


QUOTE(Morningstar @ Oct 29 2006, 04:18 AM) View Post
I simply don't like their buisness model.. but as with anything else in this Fandom.. if you disagree with the mob mentality you are evil and mean and worthy of derision.


Seems like you care about peoples' responses after all, if only to hate them.

And no valid or factually accurate positions in this thread have been derided.

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And yes, I'm sorry this is a Transformers Forum. But I didn't sign up at the allspark for the Transformers. I signed up becuase it has a P&R forum, aswell as still providing me with adequete news coverage of toys, Video games and comic books.


Are you even a Transformers fan? Seriously. You don't like to talk about them and you're sorry you're here. If you aren't a fan, why do you even pretend to care about the running of the Transformers convention?

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Posted 28 October 2006 - 11:31 PM

"extortionist"?

OH NOES THEY'RE CHARGING MONEY FOR ITEMS THAT HAVE LOW RUNS AND THEREFORE HIGH COSTS THAT WOULD NOT OTHERWISE EXIST AND THAT WE ARE UNDER NO OBLIGATION WHATSOEVER TO BUY!!!! THOSE BASTARDS!!!

Money in exchange for a luxury item? Pshaw. What nonsense you speak of. Clearly we should be given toys for free, delivered by %$^*-giving hookers on unicorns.

And yes, nobody at or associated with FP cares in any way about Transformers, clearly. Not a one. For they are not human, not a soul among them, but unfeeling machinery, horrible unliving homunculi born of dark sciences whose only reason to live is to suckle at the teat of fanboy wallets and tears, their sustinence.

I find such allegations of yours interesting considering your admission of not coming here to talk about Transformers, but basically to stir up s***.


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Posted 28 October 2006 - 11:31 PM

QUOTE(Morningstar @ Oct 28 2006, 11:37 PM) View Post

This is the internet, I don't expect people to pay attention to my complaints. I don't expect people to read my posts, I don't expect people to do anything.

I'm here to make myself heard and everyone else be damned.


Wait, you post to make yourself heard, but not for people to read you making yourself heard? How does that work, exactly?

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Posted 28 October 2006 - 11:33 PM

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Are you even a Transformers fan? Seriously. You don't like to talk about them and you're sorry you're here. If you aren't a fan, why do you even pretend to care about the running of the Transformers convention?



ahh the whole " Not a fan " thing... why am I not suprised to see that pop up..


No I Like the toys allot, and rather like the Marvel Comic.. But i'm not interested in talking about them becuase theirs no need. Anything that can be said about them has allready been said about them by some one else. why echo their statements? As for why I care about the Convention and how its run? This is the Internet, This is everyones personal soap box. I don't need a reason to comment on it.

And don't put words in my mouth, I never said I was sorry I was at the allspark. If you look at my " most posted in forum " bit in my user information you will find that I stay in General Discussion. Transformers are simply one of my many varied interests.


*edit for sipher* If i'm only here to " Stir jive Up " then why are you even responding to me? You obviously know that I don't care what you say, that no way can I take it personally due to not being face to face with you when you say it. Why do you say it? Simply to Say it. Simply to make yourself Heard.

*edit for walky* I never expect anything out of anyone. If you have no expectations you can't be let down.

Edited by Morningstar, 28 October 2006 - 11:42 PM.


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Posted 28 October 2006 - 11:36 PM

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They are a Company, They don't have feelings they have Profits and Bottom lines. So quite Frankly I don't care what Fun Publications is. I simply don't like their buisness model.. but as with anything else in this Fandom.. if you disagree with the mob mentality you are evil and mean and worthy of derision.


No offense intended, but... That latter comment (and as an update most of your follow up commentary as well) is not the formula on how to win friends and influence people. Acting as though you are being dragged by wild horses over cactai because you made a complaint and people are trying to point out alternative ways to deal with that complaint... is not entirely sweet.

If you care not for TF'swhy post in the TF convention forum? Why go to the TF areas at all if they aren't your fort?? The old addage sometimes applies very well. If you don't have something nice to say... don't say anything at all.

Edited by Waspinator's Muse, 28 October 2006 - 11:40 PM.

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Posted 28 October 2006 - 11:39 PM

Morningstar, what purpose do you serve? I'm not talking about this forum specifically. You consume resources which other humans might have a use for. Justify this.

What purpose do you serve? Whose life is enriched by yours?

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Posted 28 October 2006 - 11:46 PM

I'm really not grasping here how this thread suddenly became about me.

I've allready explained all the questions asked of me. Chips isn't even worth responding too, as the answer is easily within reach by simply reading my screen name.





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Posted 29 October 2006 - 12:40 AM

QUOTE(Morningstar @ Oct 28 2006, 08:37 PM) View Post

Look, I don't care. I've allready voiced my legitimate complaints. Just becuase you see nothing wrong with forking over that kinda money, good for you.


This is the internet, I don't expect people to pay attention to my complaints. I don't expect people to read my posts, I don't expect people to do anything.

I'm here to make myself heard and everyone else be damned.


Excuse me? This is supposed to be a community, not a bathroom wall to scrawl graffiti on. If you have no intention of contributing anything to anyone but yourself, just what are you doing here? Frankly, I'm feeling Sipher is right that this is an admission that your posting style is just to stir up s***.

Prove us wrong?

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Posted 29 October 2006 - 12:44 AM

QUOTE(M Sipher @ Oct 29 2006, 12:31 AM) View Post

And yes, nobody at or associated with FP cares in any way about Transformers, clearly. Not a one. For they are not human, not a soul among them, but unfeeling machinery, horrible unliving homunculi born of dark sciences whose only reason to live is to suckle at the teat of fanboy wallets and tears, their sustinence.

That's true. It's a very destructive attitude to have, to think that anyone involved in business is less human. It reinforces the label and encourages them to follow it. Is that really what you want? No. You want human businessmen that consider the customer, not just the profit.

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"extortionist"?

OH NOES THEY'RE CHARGING MONEY FOR ITEMS THAT HAVE LOW RUNS AND THEREFORE HIGH COSTS THAT WOULD NOT OTHERWISE EXIST AND THAT WE ARE UNDER NO OBLIGATION WHATSOEVER TO BUY!!!! THOSE BASTARDS!!!

Money in exchange for a luxury item? Pshaw. What nonsense you speak of. Clearly we should be given toys for free, delivered by %$^*-giving hookers on unicorns.

There's too many easy jokes I could make at Morningstar's expense, but they don't contribute anything. :>

I do still consider the exclusive set to be a little bit of extortion. You're not under any obligation to buy them, but you are if you want to attend the convention. although they are necessary to run the convention. My only concern is with how expensive it should be VS who it denies a good convention experience over. While I do enjoy the smooth running operation and large selection of exclusives available (including remolds!), what I wonder is what's the cost, not just directly to me, but to the selection of potential customers. Maybe my concerns are of a problem that's not nearly as serious as it might be.
heh... as good as FP has it, and us as a result, I think it was a HUGE SHOCK to have the whole system change back in 2005. I wonder if we're over it already from 2006.

heh... thinking back... imagine if a parent took a child to the convention under pre-registration, and then when they got the exclusive set, told the kid the toys were too expensive to keep, because they had to be sold to help pay for coming to the convention? :> I don't know how likely that situation is, or even how negative it would be, but I was just thinking of another side to what I had thought earlier. there's always a credit card purchase of an extra bagged set, and one set is sold before the credit card bill comes.

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Posted 29 October 2006 - 12:53 AM

QUOTE(Rotty @ Oct 29 2006, 01:40 AM) View Post

QUOTE(Morningstar @ Oct 28 2006, 08:37 PM) View Post

Look, I don't care. I've allready voiced my legitimate complaints. Just becuase you see nothing wrong with forking over that kinda money, good for you.


This is the internet, I don't expect people to pay attention to my complaints. I don't expect people to read my posts, I don't expect people to do anything.

I'm here to make myself heard and everyone else be damned.


Excuse me? This is supposed to be a community,


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