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@  Ashley : (23 October 2019 - 12:15 AM)

I'll probably try waving treats in front of her and whistling it, see if I can encourage it

@  Ashley : (23 October 2019 - 12:14 AM)

I'll try. She's not the most obedient bird, so it's going to take some work to get her to do it on demand.

@  wonko the sane? : (22 October 2019 - 10:03 PM)

In fact; we demand video.

@  MEDdMI : (22 October 2019 - 09:26 PM)

Now you have to get it on video

@  Ashley : (22 October 2019 - 08:11 PM)

I'm so proud

@  Ashley : (22 October 2019 - 08:11 PM)

My parrot just whistled the Transformers theme music

@  Steevy Maximus : (22 October 2019 - 06:10 PM)

Yeah, I think both are too old and too expensive at this stage. Hasbro/Paramount are going to try for younger actors that can do multiple films AND can be locked into a multifilm contract cheaply

@  Paladin : (22 October 2019 - 06:05 PM)

so he'd probably be sixty by the time they get to another GI Joe project.

@  Patch : (22 October 2019 - 06:04 PM)

According to Wikipedia he's 51.

@  Paladin : (22 October 2019 - 05:38 PM)

isn't Crews like sixty now???

@  wonko the sane? : (22 October 2019 - 02:11 PM)

... I could get behind that.

@  RichardT1977 : (22 October 2019 - 12:33 PM)

Who thinks that, in the event of a GI Joe cinematic reboot, John Cena and Terry Crews would be perfect for Duke and Roadblock, respectively?

@  Telly : (21 October 2019 - 05:17 PM)

nevermind

@  Shrug : (21 October 2019 - 04:59 PM)

I've barely used them over the years, so I'm sure they won't miss me, but I'm done too. Thankfully Pulse put up the Seacons today.

@  Telly : (21 October 2019 - 04:58 PM)

i didnt complete it, which is why this is confusing and pi$$ing me off. theres no record of it in my order history. i emailed them about it, so we will see what happens. either way, i think im done using them after this

@  Shrug : (21 October 2019 - 04:55 PM)

Either we're both unlucky or they're trying to force payment now for these takaratomy mall exclusives.

@  Shrug : (21 October 2019 - 04:55 PM)

I asked them to kindly undo that and I got a sternly worded email about how I should use their website right.

@  Shrug : (21 October 2019 - 04:55 PM)

Yeah, if you completed the order, they charged you the money now. Mine said stack before I finished checking out. I only noticed I was charged because of Paypal.

@  Telly : (21 October 2019 - 04:53 PM)

i wasnt even wanting to pay now. i was going to add them to my stack but i didnt get the chance after i was done setting up paypal

@  Shrug : (21 October 2019 - 04:53 PM)

If you haven't officially placed the order, I don't think so? Although, I had to request a cancellation with them last week because their system changed details about my order after I placed it, so I don't exactly trust them.

@  Telly : (21 October 2019 - 04:51 PM)

so im not actually being charged then?

@  Shrug : (21 October 2019 - 04:48 PM)

So, if you were one click away from purchasing, then they probably did the pre-authorization already. The next click will charge you the money now.

@  Shrug : (21 October 2019 - 04:47 PM)

TFsource charges upfront for regular pre-orders.

@  Telly : (21 October 2019 - 04:45 PM)

i was considering buying the upcoming seacons from tfsource. i had them in my cart and was on the checkout page. i set up a credit card through paypal, and before i even hit the "place order" button, i got a text saying that a charge or hold was placed on my card! is this normal? is it just checking to see if i have the money? why did it do it before i even placed the order??

@  Maximus Ambus : (21 October 2019 - 01:23 PM)

It's a torture device.

@  Benbot : (21 October 2019 - 09:42 AM)

what's this about Hot Rod?

@  SHIELD Agent 47 : (20 October 2019 - 10:36 PM)

Ex-Bundeswehr personnel, eh? Fascinating.

@  Pinkcolliebot : (20 October 2019 - 09:43 PM)

TF Roll Out Hot Rod's Presentation is coming real soon!!

@  Nevermore : (19 October 2019 - 01:05 PM)

So whenever he addresses his troops, he keeps cracking jokes. Sometimes these jokes are about the blunders he himself had made in his speech the previous day.

@  Nevermore : (19 October 2019 - 01:01 PM)

At the moment, I'm blessed with a pretty nice superior. He's got a military background, but he takes an oddly entertaining approach to it. Imagine a stand-up comedian who accidentally enlisted as a drill sergeant.

@  Nevermore : (19 October 2019 - 12:54 PM)

Another type of everyday absurdity: Imagine you're leaving your workplace for your lunchbreak. Upon your return, you discover that your workplace has been cordened and/or gated off during your break, with "construction site" warning signs everywhere. You go to your superior and tell him: "I can no longer access my workplace! Why is there suddenly a construction site?" Your superior takes a surpised look and says: "I don't know, first time I see this." You figure: "Must be a Tuesday, then."

@  Nevermore : (19 October 2019 - 12:51 PM)

It's kind of surreal, really.

@  Nevermore : (19 October 2019 - 12:50 PM)

They agree that things are less than ideal, but they acknowledge that their scope of making decisions is limited. Oddly, I keep getting that regardless of how high up the chain of command I bother people.

@  Nevermore : (19 October 2019 - 12:49 PM)

"I hear you, but you know how it is, there's nothing I can do about it." That's it, basically.

@  TheMightyMol... : (19 October 2019 - 06:40 AM)

What's it like to have management that's willing to listen to things they don't want to hear? I've never seen that.

@  Nevermore : (19 October 2019 - 04:41 AM)

I manage to argue within the company's own internal logic and point out the flaws, shortcomings and discrepancies between "official company policy" and "everyday company reality".

@  Nevermore : (19 October 2019 - 04:40 AM)

Many of my coworkers are scared to even talk to managers. I often discuss company matters with them I disagree with, and it isn't a rare occurrence that they say "yeah, you're right..."

@  Nevermore : (19 October 2019 - 04:38 AM)

I know how to watch my tone, and I prefer to keep things straightforward and factual, never to attack the person, always the problem itself.

@  Nevermore : (19 October 2019 - 04:37 AM)

The good thing for me is ever since a minor hiccup many years ago when I was still non-permanent, I've always managed to along just fine with my various superiors (I've been through over a dozen already). And that's despite my outspokenness, my blunt honesty and my oftentimes harsh criticism.

@  Sabrblade : (18 October 2019 - 11:04 PM)

With visuals presented by the Cybernet Space Cube

@  Dekafox : (18 October 2019 - 04:51 PM)

And don't forget to sign up for a cybersecurity seminar while you're there

@  Dekafox : (18 October 2019 - 04:47 PM)

Well you can always strap on some cyberlimbs and go into cyberspace for a cyberpunk experience

@  NotVeryKnightly : (18 October 2019 - 04:28 PM)

You know that "cyber" doesn't mean "cyborg", right?

@  Maximus Ambus : (18 October 2019 - 04:16 PM)

So where's the Cyborgs on CYBERtron?

@  The Doctor Who : (18 October 2019 - 03:47 PM)

Click here and we can send you notifications about your desire to discontinue notifications!

@  Benbot : (18 October 2019 - 10:40 AM)

Why does every damn website want to send me notifications? NO, no one wants your popups! Quit asking!

@  Echowarrior : (18 October 2019 - 09:19 AM)

Amazon in the US has pretty good benefits, though, and even the temp workers had forty hours a week to start with. Even with minimum wage, that's pretty good pay.

@  Nevermore : (18 October 2019 - 01:20 AM)

Oh, the turnover rates are high here as well.

@  TM2-Megatron : (17 October 2019 - 09:45 PM)

Amazon.com and .ca, on the other hand, can be pretty terrible. I know from your squawkbox posts that you guys have your issues with Amazon over there, although you're lucky to have stronger government regulations and a union there. I gather the warehouse workers in the USA and Canada have it pretty crappy, with very high turnover, close to minimum wage pay, and no unions

@  TM2-Megatron : (17 October 2019 - 09:38 PM)

Amazon.de doesn't really have the same issue. I've ordered from them (and UK, FR, IT and JP) several times, and their packaging is much better


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#41 TrentTroop

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Posted 13 October 2006 - 03:14 PM

QUOTE(Waspinator's Muse @ Oct 12 2006, 03:44 AM) View Post
To me however the membership to the club is not worth it. As I'd only use it to get the discount off the Botcon price. But it'd end up being the same price so... meh no huge loss there.

But it isn't the same price. You save a total of $10, get the newsletters and you get the exclsuive basic.

As for the Joe fan response: What's good for the goose is good for the gander, fellows. The interaction of the two cons needs to be determined in what's fair and what's pheasible. I would fully expect a lesser treatment of Botcon on the eve of a Joe feature film. Perhaps we can finally move to alternating scheduling.

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Posted 13 October 2006 - 04:26 PM

QUOTE(M Sipher @ Oct 13 2006, 02:29 PM) View Post

The more I hear "combine the conventions", frankly, the worse the idea sounds. I can't imagine what kind of panel-schedule nightmare that would be.

Plus, TF fandom is a bit more on the guest/panel-heavy side anyway (as in, we HAVE them). A combo con would likely end up being primarily a TF convention ANYWAY, further pissing off the Joe fan base.

I can't see combining them being a good idea.


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I don't think it would be so easy for them either. having twice as much work to do... not to mention the coliding of two huge crowds of people. if you thought getting around the dealer room was bad, try twice that many people. and the hotel... I have a feeling those elevators will be packed all the time. it was bad enough when the fast-food places in the food court ran out of supplies. it's just totally going to be a [email protected]#$%.

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I'd be shocked if 2007 doesn't post at least twice the attendance figures '06 had.


You never know it is only 8 months months away so it's hard to say, if anything it might be JUST the same as this year's BotCon

But there are too many variables to say either way

I mentioned already in this thread I suspect they might notice a difference in pre-registration numbers VS walk-ins. attendance was boosted a lot by the walk-ins this year. anyone see that line? anyone get an idea of how many were in both lines? maybe we should ask FP if they'll disclose some numbers, even rough ones like 1/3rd to 1/4th being walk-ins. I noticed FP doesn't put the number showing how many people pre-registered before you, like 3H did. my OTFCC badges show 1206 (last minute) and 501 (early).

oh, speaking of your place in line pre-registering... what did the first 100 pre-registrants get? ah, here we go. "a special golden disk cloisonn? lapel pin". anyone get a look at those? are those just the things that came in the boxed set of exclusives?

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QUOTE(Waspinator's Muse @ Oct 12 2006, 03:44 AM) View Post
To me however the membership to the club is not worth it. As I'd only use it to get the discount off the Botcon price. But it'd end up being the same price so... meh no huge loss there.

But it isn't the same price. You save a total of $10, get the newsletters and you get the exclsuive basic.

As for the Joe fan response: What's good for the goose is good for the gander, fellows. The interaction of the two cons needs to be determined in what's fair and what's pheasible. I would fully expect a lesser treatment of Botcon on the eve of a Joe feature film. Perhaps we can finally move to alternating scheduling.

-Trent

yeah... if anything, you get 6 club magazines (what is that, 36 pages of comics?) and a free basic... thrown in for nothing. sort of as an incentive for attending the convention. of course... if you don't attend, it's totally NOT a free incentive. :> the club membership, convention, and exclusive set is NOT meant to be broken up. then again, look on eBay and you'll see it's not so bad. sell your exclusive set and what did it all cost you?

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Posted 13 October 2006 - 05:08 PM

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I don't think it would be so easy for them either. having twice as much work to do... not to mention the coliding of two huge crowds of people. if you thought getting around the dealer room was bad, try twice that many people. and the hotel... I have a feeling those elevators will be packed all the time. it was bad enough when the fast-food places in the food court ran out of supplies. it's just totally going to be a [email protected]#$%.
While your points about the hotel and food places are no doubt valid, Savage is quite explicit that any "combined" dealer room would be twice as large, so I wouldn't worry too much about crowds there. Twice as many people (maybe), but twice as much space, equals same crowd density! Not to mention that, although FP might have a lot more work to do for the time they're doing it, they get more time off later in the year, too!

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I mentioned already in this thread I suspect they might notice a difference in pre-registration numbers VS walk-ins. attendance was boosted a lot by the walk-ins this year. anyone see that line? anyone get an idea of how many were in both lines? maybe we should ask FP if they'll disclose some numbers, even rough ones like 1/3rd to 1/4th being walk-ins. I noticed FP doesn't put the number showing how many people pre-registered before you, like 3H did. my OTFCC badges show 1206 (last minute) and 501 (early).
This is a tree we've barked up before. FP is very firm on this. They don't release numbers. Never have, and never will. They think it's bad for business. (Afraid of competition or something. I don't understand it either. The point is, they're not gonna budge on that one.)

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oh, speaking of your place in line pre-registering... what did the first 100 pre-registrants get? ah, here we go. "a special golden disk cloisonn? lapel pin". anyone get a look at those? are those just the things that came in the boxed set of exclusives?
I haven't seen the "first 100" pin, myself, but am absolutely sure that it's a distinct item from the pin that's in the boxed set.

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yeah... if anything, you get 6 club magazines (what is that, 36 pages of comics?) and a free basic... thrown in for nothing. sort of as an incentive for attending the convention. of course... if you don't attend, it's totally NOT a free incentive. :> the club membership, convention, and exclusive set is NOT meant to be broken up. then again, look on eBay and you'll see it's not so bad. sell your exclusive set and what did it all cost you?
Surprisingly, other than the "attendee exclusive" Tigatron, I've not gotten my "investment" back on eBaying BotCon exclusives this year. I sold Buzzsaw for exactly what it cost me (which means a net loss after accounting for eBay fees), and didn't even make as much as Dinobot cost (when taken as a proportion of the box set cost). As I see what the other individual exclusives are going for (roughly in the $20-30 range for most of the smaller ones), I wouldn't be breaking even, even if I sold off all of them from the box set. (Well, I would after factoring in Tigatron, but if that's a "freebie," that really should count separately, anyway.)

I might do a bit better if I sold off Megatron and/or Waspinator, but I'd really like to keep those....

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Posted 13 October 2006 - 06:06 PM

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yeah... if anything, you get 6 club magazines (what is that, 36 pages of comics?) and a free basic... thrown in for nothing. sort of as an incentive for attending the convention. of course... if you don't attend, it's totally NOT a free incentive. :> the club membership, convention, and exclusive set is NOT meant to be broken up. then again, look on eBay and you'll see it's not so bad. sell your exclusive set and what did it all cost you?
Surprisingly, other than the "attendee exclusive" Tigatron, I've not gotten my "investment" back on eBaying BotCon exclusives this year. I sold Buzzsaw for exactly what it cost me (which means a net loss after accounting for eBay fees), and didn't even make as much as Dinobot cost (when taken as a proportion of the box set cost). As I see what the other individual exclusives are going for (roughly in the $20-30 range for most of the smaller ones), I wouldn't be breaking even, even if I sold off all of them from the box set. (Well, I would after factoring in Tigatron, but if that's a "freebie," that really should count separately, anyway.)

I might do a bit better if I sold off Megatron and/or Waspinator, but I'd really like to keep those....

My two cents,
G.B. Blackrock

eh... you probably get less if you sell figures individually, and loose. although it could be the regular exclusives aren't selling very well. I think the focus was on the cost of the club though...

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Posted 13 October 2006 - 06:17 PM

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yeah... if anything, you get 6 club magazines (what is that, 36 pages of comics?) and a free basic... thrown in for nothing. sort of as an incentive for attending the convention. of course... if you don't attend, it's totally NOT a free incentive. :> the club membership, convention, and exclusive set is NOT meant to be broken up. then again, look on eBay and you'll see it's not so bad. sell your exclusive set and what did it all cost you?
Surprisingly, other than the "attendee exclusive" Tigatron, I've not gotten my "investment" back on eBaying BotCon exclusives this year. I sold Buzzsaw for exactly what it cost me (which means a net loss after accounting for eBay fees), and didn't even make as much as Dinobot cost (when taken as a proportion of the box set cost). As I see what the other individual exclusives are going for (roughly in the $20-30 range for most of the smaller ones), I wouldn't be breaking even, even if I sold off all of them from the box set. (Well, I would after factoring in Tigatron, but if that's a "freebie," that really should count separately, anyway.)

I might do a bit better if I sold off Megatron and/or Waspinator, but I'd really like to keep those....

My two cents,
G.B. Blackrock

eh... you probably get less if you sell figures individually, and loose. although it could be the regular exclusives aren't selling very well. I think the focus was on the cost of the club though...
I've been following too many threads. This didn't seem as off-topic when I posted it as it does now. However, the original point (that there's really no reason not to join the club if you go to the convention, as it actually costs you $10 LESS total to do so, PLUS you get the club figure and 6-issues of the magazine) certainly remains.

Any money made off of selling the figures only makes that total even lower, even if not enough to compensate for the cost of attending the convention itself. At that point, it's a matter of asking, how much are you willing to pay to go to a convention? (The club being a separate issue)


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Posted 13 October 2006 - 07:26 PM


We've been rather frankly told that BC07 is in the summer because of the movie coming out. So I personally expect that we will again get summer conventions in the years when the other films in the live-action trilogy are released; I believe Don or Michael already said the first sequel was due in 2009, and let's assume the pattern holds and the final chapter is in 2012. So those summers we'd have Botcons--and in the intervening years it's back to October for us.

I could get used to having Botcon in the fall, especially if, as was shown this year, local turnout can boost attendance back to or even greater than past levels. Honestly I could live with that.

And I do sympathize with the GIJ fans. Haven't they had their convention for a whole lot longer than we've had ours, and thus been more accustomed to it? Plus they already knew Brian since back in the day, whereas we knew that he was new to us and so the fact of change in and of itself is a given.

As for who gets their show when: I really DON'T like the idea of having the shows alternate seasons every year, nor am I fond of a proposed merging of the two. Fun Publications made tremendous improvements in the 2006 show and I think they could very well have hit a good stride. Why mess with that now, and have a whole even-newer team trying to learn the show, and having their own messup and miscommunication years before they, too, get used to it?


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We've been rather frankly told that BC07 is in the summer because of the movie coming out. So I personally expect that we will again get summer conventions in the years when the other films in the live-action trilogy are released; I believe Don or Michael already said the first sequel was due in 2009, and let's assume the pattern holds and the final chapter is in 2012. So those summers we'd have Botcons--and in the intervening years it's back to October for us.
Well, it should obvious to all that those other movies in the "trilogy" are entirely dependent on this movie doing well. I wouldn't make any bets yet.




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We've been rather frankly told that BC07 is in the summer because of the movie coming out. So I personally expect that we will again get summer conventions in the years when the other films in the live-action trilogy are released; I believe Don or Michael already said the first sequel was due in 2009, and let's assume the pattern holds and the final chapter is in 2012. So those summers we'd have Botcons--and in the intervening years it's back to October for us.
Well, it should obvious to all that those other movies in the "trilogy" are entirely dependent on this movie doing well. I wouldn't make any bets yet.


That's my concern, especially with the re-invisioning of the bots and cons. Will I be able to take my kids to this movie? My recently turned 13 year old son will probably love it, but my 9 year old daughter might be a little freaked out.

It seems the movie is geared to the more adult crowd....time will tell.


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transformers vs gi joe: not just for comics anymore lol
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Posted 24 October 2006 - 01:09 AM

I'm getting a strong sense of disaster from a combined con. If the fandoms snipe back and forth at each other as much as this thread is implying, putting that many people in one dealer room sounds like a bomb waiting to blow. Maybe I'm just being pessimistic.

Of course, that might also affect the price (if they have to rent twice as much dealer space and such, they'd have to charge more to make up for it; I doubt there'd be double the turnout, since there's bound to be overlap between the fandoms).

Really, my concern isn't time of year so much as location (I hate driving and don't really have anyone around me who'd be interested enough to go) and cost.


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I'm getting a strong sense of disaster from a combined con. If the fandoms snipe back and forth at each other as much as this thread is implying, putting that many people in one dealer room sounds like a bomb waiting to blow. Maybe I'm just being pessimistic.

I don't think that's so much the issue as much as "which franchise will take up the lion's share of attention at a combined con?"

I mean, as I understand it, this year was an abberation in that they had a special guest who wasn't Larry Hama. Now I grant you, having Sargeant Slaughter at your convention is f***ing AWESOME, and a bigger name than... well, pretty much all the guests at BC ever (sorry, but let's face it, more random people can doubtlessly recognize Sarge than they can pretty much any TF voice actor, especially since he's still wrestling). But it's still apparently something the Joe conventions just don't really DO often.

So not only are we talking TFs eating up a sizable bunch of the guest-budget, but then there's panel times. Running two panels at once is certainly not a good idea. I don't know what other panels go on... I assume there's a Joe comic preview, and a new product overview. But then there's the fan club stuff for TFs, the various toy-based panels. (And MSTF.)

And then, would Hasbro really want TWO of their toy-teams gone for a week-ish?

It just sounds like a bad idea, a giant organizational nightmare, and basically asking for trouble.


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Personally? This pisses me off. I'm part of the G.I. Joe Fan Club. I don't give a flying rat's arse what happens with Transformers. I signed up so I could be involved with all things Joe... I don't care how that relates to Transformers. That is just one more lame excuse, after getting one told to the folks at the Con.

Personally? I don't give a flying rat's arse what happens with G.I. Joe. However, if things were flipped, I would understand and be happy for them.
All I have to say is:
DEAL.

We've had two fall shows, now it's your turn. Plus, you don't have a summer movie.
Peace.

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Personally? This pisses me off. I'm part of the G.I. Joe Fan Club. I don't give a flying rat's arse what happens with Transformers. I signed up so I could be involved with all things Joe... I don't care how that relates to Transformers. That is just one more lame excuse, after getting one told to the folks at the Con.

Personally? I don't give a flying rat's arse what happens with G.I. Joe. However, if things were flipped, I would understand and be happy for them.
All I have to say is:
DEAL.
We've had two fall shows, now it's your turn. Plus, you don't have a summer movie.
Peace.

Amen.
The only GI Joe stuff I am interested in collecting now is:
-A MISB CObra Rattler
-The old European Action Force stuff from about 1982.
If I went to a joint convention I'd look at half the stuff there. And after reading the crap in the thread, I have little to no interest in interacting with GI Joe collectors.

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Posted 27 October 2006 - 07:59 AM

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Personally? This pisses me off. I'm part of the G.I. Joe Fan Club. I don't give a flying rat's arse what happens with Transformers. I signed up so I could be involved with all things Joe... I don't care how that relates to Transformers. That is just one more lame excuse, after getting one told to the folks at the Con.

Personally? I don't give a flying rat's arse what happens with G.I. Joe. However, if things were flipped, I would understand and be happy for them.
All I have to say is:
DEAL.
We've had two fall shows, now it's your turn. Plus, you don't have a summer movie.
Peace.

Amen.
The only GI Joe stuff I am interested in collecting now is:
-A MISB CObra Rattler
-The old European Action Force stuff from about 1982.
If I went to a joint convention I'd look at half the stuff there. And after reading the crap in the thread, I have little to no interest in interacting with GI Joe collectors.

I'm sure most of the fans are reasonable...but the ragingly jealous ones might just might spoil the batch like the aforementioned bombs waiting to explode. I wouldn't have minded seeing if I could get my brother something Joe at a combined con, but after reading that thread I'd be afraid to be near any Joe dealer tables while wearing anything TF. icon-waspy.gif

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Posted 27 October 2006 - 08:41 AM

QUOTE(Moonscream @ Oct 27 2006, 08:59 AM) View Post

I'm sure most of the fans are reasonable...but the ragingly jealous ones might just might spoil the batch like the aforementioned bombs waiting to explode. I wouldn't have minded seeing if I could get my brother something Joe at a combined con, but after reading that thread I'd be afraid to be near any Joe dealer tables while wearing anything TF. icon-waspy.gif

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It probably bears repeating that the fans over at that one board may not be representative of even most online Joe fans, let alone representative of Joe fans in general.

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Posted 27 October 2006 - 09:02 AM

QUOTE(G.B.Blackrock @ Oct 27 2006, 06:41 AM) View Post

QUOTE(Moonscream @ Oct 27 2006, 08:59 AM) View Post

I'm sure most of the fans are reasonable...but the ragingly jealous ones might just might spoil the batch like the aforementioned bombs waiting to explode. I wouldn't have minded seeing if I could get my brother something Joe at a combined con, but after reading that thread I'd be afraid to be near any Joe dealer tables while wearing anything TF. icon-waspy.gif

--Moony

It probably bears repeating that the fans over at that one board may not be representative of even most online Joe fans, let alone representative of Joe fans in general.

Oh, I know...its just I'd be wary in case one of the other customers at said table(s) was one of the bombs. icon-wildride.gif

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Posted 27 October 2006 - 09:26 AM

Joe fans and TF fans are two sides of the same coin.

TFs are getting a chance to elevate this summer though. I suspect the Joe fans are more jealous than anything. TFs could end up on the same level as Aliens or Star Wars or something this year. (And Star Wars only because the last few movies really drug it down...but still.)

GI Joe will never get that big, even if they did have a movie all their own. They'd hit *maybe* Fantastic Four levels of popularity. They'd be the goofy version of Platoon, at best.

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Posted 27 October 2006 - 10:28 AM

QUOTE(Galenraff @ Oct 27 2006, 02:26 PM) View Post

Joe fans and TF fans are two sides of the same coin.

TFs are getting a chance to elevate this summer though. I suspect the Joe fans are more jealous than anything. TFs could end up on the same level as Aliens or Star Wars or something this year. (And Star Wars only because the last few movies really drug it down...but still.)

GI Joe will never get that big, even if they did have a movie all their own. They'd hit *maybe* Fantastic Four levels of popularity. They'd be the goofy version of Platoon, at best.


At this point, the Transformers movie could very well be the goofy alien sentient version of Robot Jox. Point is, it could suck balls. Without an actual G.I.Joe movie to see which would be better, we really need not compare them right now.

I for one would love a Joe movie based off this season of Sigma 6. So far it blows last season away.


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Posted 27 October 2006 - 12:11 PM

Yes, the TF movie could suck. But it could become a great in the genre of Sci-Fi action movies. Point is, it's getting the chance.

GI Joe will never have that kind of a chance. If ever it could elevate itself, it would have to be a straight rip of Apocalypse Now, Platoon, or any other number of great war/army movies. There's no where to go in that genre for GI Joe based on what is unique about that property.

So while TFs get a shot at the big time, to go out there and see if they can do it, GI Joe will never even get that chance - they'd be to Platoon what Josie and the Pussycats was to Almost Famous. TFs make their own destiny at this point based on giving it their all, while GI Joe is forever relegated to where they are with no chance to move up.

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Posted 27 October 2006 - 12:23 PM

a more correct comparison for what a GIJOE movie would be would be Mission Impossible or '24' with a Bit of of MIB thrown in for good measure.

I think comparing the franchise to something its not and was never meant to be is a bit unfair..