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@  Hg Dragon : (01 March 2021 - 08:49 PM)

I'm upset I can't "Like" a shout...

@  TheMightyMol... : (28 February 2021 - 09:39 AM)

The US election? *rimshot*

@  Paladin : (28 February 2021 - 09:19 AM)

WHICH 2016 clown panic?

@  NotVeryKnightly : (28 February 2021 - 07:22 AM)

Didn't that come right after the 2016 clown panic? No way to make clowns not disturbing at the time, surely.

@  PlutoniumBoss : (28 February 2021 - 04:26 AM)

The clown guise is supposed to lure kids in, it's no good if it looks sus in one glance.

@  PlutoniumBoss : (28 February 2021 - 04:15 AM)

The new one tries too hard to be unsettling from the start. Curry's look is just a plain old clown, until he very much is not.

@  PlutoniumBoss : (28 February 2021 - 04:14 AM)

And Curry has a far more disturbing look at times than the newbie.

@  Sabrblade : (28 February 2021 - 02:22 AM)

And the original was a showcase of Tim Curry's delightfulness as an actor. 'Nuff said.

@  unluckiness : (27 February 2021 - 10:19 PM)

first one was a decent horror flick but the second was a mess plotwise and even the scares were worse

@  tigerhawk : (27 February 2021 - 04:57 PM)

Never understood the hype for the IT movies, too many floppy zombie chases, They're not in the least unsettling.

@  Maruten : (25 February 2021 - 06:00 PM)

It's better than the last one!

@  Steevy Maximus : (25 February 2021 - 11:30 AM)

The new Wizards of the Coast logo looks stupid

@  Steevy Maximus : (25 February 2021 - 11:29 AM)

It's really rather shocking watching the Investor Day presentation and seeing how much Hasbro actually owns now.

@  -LittleAutob... : (25 February 2021 - 10:26 AM)

If everyone had COMMON SENSE, then things would maybe go a little better-

@  repowers : (24 February 2021 - 05:33 PM)

If everyone would just have the exact same opinions as me then we wouldn't have this problem

@  Kalidor : (24 February 2021 - 01:49 PM)

It just depends on what it is. It is preferable to take it to P&R though. But sometimes current news as it's happening is less restrictive.

@  fourteenwings : (24 February 2021 - 12:18 AM)

Huh, good point (x3)

@  ▲ndrusi : (23 February 2021 - 11:46 AM)

Yeah. 1. People treat it like Twitter. 2. There's no "take it to P&R" since there's no P&R for the Shoutbox. 3. There's similarly no way to avoid either subjects or people in the Shoutbox since there's no division and it doesn't respect the ignore function, so people end up engaging when they normally wouldn't.

@  fourteenwings : (23 February 2021 - 10:56 AM)

Is there something about the Shoutbox that just means we get politics taking over the thing at least once a week?

@  wonko the sane? : (23 February 2021 - 08:26 AM)

At least your government is willing to talk about the collapsing medicare system. In quebec, their ignoring it in favour of talking about language again! Oh, and unconstitutionally denying access to eduction.

@  Shockwave 75 : (23 February 2021 - 07:52 AM)

At least here in my home province of Ontario we have a conservative gov't who doesn't want to cuz $$$$, but the argument is that they'll end up paying in medical care anyways for those sick people so why not?

@  Shockwave 75 : (23 February 2021 - 07:51 AM)

We have paid sick leave here in Canada too, but it's not very much and not everyone has it. So we're trying to get the gov't to extend it, and give it to everyone.

@  Nevermore : (23 February 2021 - 02:23 AM)

The only reason people still go to work despite being sick is because they feel emotionally obliged to serve their employer.

@  Nevermore : (23 February 2021 - 02:20 AM)

Some people abuse the system by somehow getting sick with a different plague every five weeks.

@  Nevermore : (23 February 2021 - 02:20 AM)

Those six weeks are out of the employer's pocket by legal mandate. If you're still sick after those six weeks, the health insurance company takes over the payment.

@  Nevermore : (23 February 2021 - 02:19 AM)

That's the good thing in Germany - we have legally mandated paid sick days. Six weeks (!) for a single cause (consecutive or recurring, as long as it's the same cause; reinfections long after the fact don't count), Everytime the employee gets sick with a new cause, another six weeks start.

@  tigerhawk : (22 February 2021 - 04:48 PM)

That's how my family got sick, my brothers a teacher, he has a class for expelled students, they gave full attendance these past few lockdowns out of sheer boredom, they can turn in sick and break isolation and he nor the other staff, who also got sick, couldn't do anything about it.

@  TM2-Megatron : (22 February 2021 - 03:03 PM)

Yeah, pretty sure the only reason people don't stay home when they're sick is that the vast majority of society lives paycheque to paycheque, and they can't afford even one missed day of work.

@  -LittleAutob... : (22 February 2021 - 11:27 AM)

That's unfortunate... I know masks can be annoying, but I think not being able to breath comfortably for a while is better than actually having the virus and not being able to breath at all. bUt Oh, pEoPLe dOn'T bELiVe ThE dAmN vIrUs Is rEaL

@  wonko the sane? : (22 February 2021 - 08:28 AM)

Hahahaha! Oh, you're serious. Yeah, no one is going to do that. Far too many are in positions where they simply cannot afford the time off, and most of the rest are the kind who won't wear the mask in a global pandemic, never mind when they alone have the sniffles.

@  Shockwave 75 : (22 February 2021 - 08:20 AM)

I just hope a take-away from this will be for people to stay home when they're sick, and if they have to go out, wear a mask so as not to spread their illness.

@  TM2-Megatron : (21 February 2021 - 08:25 PM)

I think it's mostly the masking that's kept the flu season down so much, and that's unlikely to be kept up for that long. I'm sure there'll be some people who keep wearing masks for years after this, but I suspect a larger number are anticipating people able to toss them once vaccinations are complete.

@  wonko the sane? : (21 February 2021 - 05:27 PM)

Same in canada. Doctors report it to be basically non-existant. I kinda hope they keep some stuff up after everyone is vaccinated. Like hand sanitizer at store entrances, and actually cleaning the shopping carts.

@  tigerhawk : (21 February 2021 - 05:17 PM)

On the plus side cold and flu cases are down 80% this winter thanks to lockdowns, or at least that's the case in the UK.

@  Hg Dragon : (21 February 2021 - 04:37 PM)

This is quite possibly the most miserable i have ever felt.

@  Hg Dragon : (21 February 2021 - 04:37 PM)

i'll be nice and not bypass the cupcake monkey, but COVID can *bleep* itself in the *bleeping* *bleeper* with a *bleeping* cactus.

@  tigerhawk : (21 February 2021 - 02:39 AM)

He only appeared the once in the US comics and got one follow up in the UK comic. He never suffered badass decay like Omega Supreme and the combiners.

@  Rycochet : (19 February 2021 - 05:15 PM)

Trypticon's debut issues in the marvel comic were the absolute best 'To sell a toy' comics of the book.

@  tigerhawk : (19 February 2021 - 03:04 AM)

Then the audience goes "This was a stealth Transformers film wannit!"

@  tigerhawk : (19 February 2021 - 03:03 AM)

Godzilla vs Trypticon, co written by Christina Hobson and Max Borenstein.

@  Bass X0 : (19 February 2021 - 01:36 AM)

I now want G1 Grimlock to transform into Mecha Godzilla.

@  Steevy Maximus : (17 February 2021 - 04:23 PM)

I preferred Rush when Midway made it.

@  Bass X0 : (17 February 2021 - 03:13 PM)

The best Rush comes from Canada.

@  ▲ndrusi : (17 February 2021 - 02:54 PM)

In *other* wonderful and fantastic news, guess whose Kingdom Cheetor and Paleotrex FINALLY arrived today?

@  Bass X0 : (16 February 2021 - 03:07 PM)

yeah, its a good show. watch as much as you can.

@  tigerhawk : (16 February 2021 - 04:58 AM)

Goodnight Sweethearts turned out to be a gem, I only knew Nicholas Lyndhurst in Only Fools and Horses but never saw this show before.

@  Bass X0 : (15 February 2021 - 04:07 PM)

Then we got Ultra Magnus, Fortress Maximus, Dai Atlas, Megatron, Galvatron, Starscream, Thundercracker, Skywarp and Banzai-Tron in Alternity...

@  Sabrblade : (15 February 2021 - 12:04 PM)

Heh, that new Binaltech comic that Ichikawa wrote for one of the Japanese Generations books even had the other Dinobots make fun of Grimlock for his "Autobot Car" body.

@  wonko the sane? : (15 February 2021 - 12:03 PM)

They got that rescue bot grimlock that turns into a motorcycle. That's... pretty neat...

@  Otaku : (15 February 2021 - 11:35 AM)

Just to make Grimlock feel more "wrong", they even highlight how his character just seems ill-suited for a sports car alternate mode in his own backstory.  Hindsight is 20/20, so I now wish they'd made a T-rex that transformed into a sportscar.  Still probably would have been as much or more of a pain to transform, but at least it'd feel more like Grimlock. :D


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#1 MightyMegs

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Posted 11 October 2006 - 06:31 PM

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Posted 11 October 2006 - 06:39 PM

I'm unaware if any of them expressed sympathy that OUR Con was bumped for the past two years.

Besides, it's probably only for next year.

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Posted 11 October 2006 - 06:42 PM

Joe fans get pissed off at the drop of a hat. I like Joes as much as the next 80s guy, but I just can't handle that fandom.

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Posted 11 October 2006 - 06:59 PM

At least it seems the Brian is trying to be fair. (He didn't promise that things would be "back to normal" next year for the Joe con, notice.) This is simply an unfortunate side-effect of trying to do two conventions for such very different fanbases.

Like I've said repeatedly, if we ever hope to see Summer BotCons again, we need to grab this opportunity to prove that it makes a difference to this fanbase. (And, perhaps just as importantly, that it makes a bigger difference to us to have it in the summer than it does to the Joe folks)

Seriously, one group is going to HAVE to be put out each year. I just hope that it isn't always us. (Barring 2007, of course)

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Posted 11 October 2006 - 07:17 PM

All things considered, the sensible thing would be to alternate. One year, have one con in the summer and the other in the fall, switch the next, wash-rince-repeat.
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Posted 11 October 2006 - 07:24 PM

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Seriously, one group is going to HAVE to be put out each year. I just hope that it isn't always us. (Barring 2007, of course)


Couldn't FP hire enough people to put on two Cons at the same time? icon-depth.gif

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Posted 11 October 2006 - 07:44 PM

QUOTE(MrBlud @ Oct 11 2006, 07:24 PM) View Post

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Seriously, one group is going to HAVE to be put out each year. I just hope that it isn't always us. (Barring 2007, of course)


Couldn't FP hire enough people to put on two Cons at the same time? icon-depth.gif


I get the feeling it's not about just that. It's more about Transformers having the limelight during the summer. If they have them at the same time, they'll have to compete with each other.

Plus, lots of people like both. They dont' want them too close, therefore causing some fans to "pick and choose", or to get frustrated with trying to go to two cons near the same time.

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Posted 11 October 2006 - 08:10 PM

When I talked to Brain at Botcon, And thought some e-mail he would love to have the Both cons in the same location at the same time. The problem would be Man-power, and make sure the toy for each con were done on time. We may see in the next few years the dates for joe con , and Botcon maybe just a few weekends apart. If the can get that worked out then just maybe They will try to have both Cons in the same Location at the same place. The biggest problem work be deal space. You would want to make sure that you have a 50 / 50 split on dealer for each con, Or change the rules on what the dealer can have at their booth. It would be great if they could have 1 giant dealers room. Or have transformer dealers in 1 large room , and all the Joe dealer be in another large room.

If both con were in the same location the same year I know I would sell more of my joe parts and toys then what I did at this years Botcon. Plus I'm sure that I would drop double or triple what I did at this year's Botcon. Well hopefully I make E-6 and get paid shortly after the 1st of the year.

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Posted 11 October 2006 - 08:19 PM

From the Joe board:
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Personally? This pisses me off. I'm part of the G.I. Joe Fan Club. I don't give a flying rat's arse what happens with Transformers. I signed up so I could be involved with all things Joe... I don't care how that relates to Transformers. That is just one more lame excuse, after getting one told to the folks at the Con.


If you reverse "Transformers" and "Joe" in that quote, it sounds remarkably like some utterances from last year icon-fire.gif

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Posted 11 October 2006 - 09:07 PM

QUOTE(TrnsfrmGod @ Oct 11 2006, 09:19 PM) View Post

From the Joe board:
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Personally? This pisses me off. I'm part of the G.I. Joe Fan Club. I don't give a flying rat's arse what happens with Transformers. I signed up so I could be involved with all things Joe... I don't care how that relates to Transformers. That is just one more lame excuse, after getting one told to the folks at the Con.


If you reverse "Transformers" and "Joe" in that quote, it sounds remarkably like some utterances from last year icon-fire.gif

I noticed that, too. Apparently, Joe fans and TF fans aren't so different after all. icon-arcee.gif

QUOTE(GEN1FAN @ Oct 11 2006, 09:10 PM)
When I talked to Brain at Botcon, And thought some e-mail he would love to have the Both cons in the same location at the same time. The problem would be Man-power, and make sure the toy for each con were done on time. We may see in the next few years the dates for joe con , and Botcon maybe just a few weekends apart. If the can get that worked out then just maybe They will try to have both Cons in the same Location at the same place. The biggest problem work be deal space. You would want to make sure that you have a 50 / 50 split on dealer for each con, Or change the rules on what the dealer can have at their booth. It would be great if they could have 1 giant dealers room. Or have transformer dealers in 1 large room , and all the Joe dealer be in another large room.

If both con were in the same location the same year I know I would sell more of my joe parts and toys then what I did at this years Botcon. Plus I'm sure that I would drop double or triple what I did at this year's Botcon. Well hopefully I make E-6 and get paid shortly after the 1st of the year.
I've been under the impression since near the beginning that Brian would very much love to do both conventions at the same time. Perhaps I'd feel the same if I were him, but it's not an idea I personally care much for at all.

However, given the choice between a fall time that I'll likely seldom be able to make it to (I really stretched it to go this year), and a summer date that includes Joe folks.... Well, let's just say that a combined convention isn't the worst possibility.

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Posted 11 October 2006 - 09:13 PM

Now I remember why I never signed up at any joe forums..





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Posted 11 October 2006 - 09:15 PM

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Personally? This pisses me off. I'm part of the G.I. Joe Fan Club. I don't give a flying rat's arse what happens with Transformers. I signed up so I could be involved with all things Joe... I don't care how that relates to Transformers. That is just one more lame excuse, after getting one told to the folks at the Con.


If you reverse "Transformers" and "Joe" in that quote, it sounds remarkably like some utterances from last year icon-fire.gif
And I find it personally funny that the guy goes by 'Smokescreen'. icon-fire.gif

Dumb question...if they 'get pissed off at the drop of a hat'...how do the fans act at cons? Do they act at least as well as TF fans do?

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Posted 11 October 2006 - 09:16 PM

QUOTE(TrnsfrmGod @ Oct 11 2006, 09:19 PM) View Post

From the Joe board:
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Personally? This pisses me off. I'm part of the G.I. Joe Fan Club. I don't give a flying rat's arse what happens with Transformers. I signed up so I could be involved with all things Joe... I don't care how that relates to Transformers. That is just one more lame excuse, after getting one told to the folks at the Con.


If you reverse "Transformers" and "Joe" in that quote, it sounds remarkably like some utterances from last year icon-fire.gif

just because both sides make stupid arguments doesn't mean one side might be more entitled to something.
what's the reasoning behind the time of year for the Joe con? for TF fans, the argument was based around school. there are a lot more kids in the TF fandom, that can't skip school to attend. there was also something about people employed at schools being in an even less-flexible situation. (they can't skip school) although I wonder how many more school professionals there are in the TF fandom than the Joe fandom...
I have a feeling though that BotCon 2006 will be hard to compare against BotCon 2007, since we had SO MANY attendees, although perhaps a summer con will show higher PREREGISTRATIONS than walk-in registrations.

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Posted 11 October 2006 - 09:18 PM

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I have a feeling though that BotCon 2006 will be hard to compare against BotCon 2007, since we had SO MANY attendees, although perhaps a summer con will show higher PREREGISTRATIONS than walk-in registrations.

That in itself would send a strong message. FP makes lots more money off of preregistrations than they do off of walk-ins.

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Posted 11 October 2006 - 09:25 PM

Isn't that cuase Pre-registrations cost hundreds of dollers and require a membership in the fanclub?





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Posted 11 October 2006 - 10:03 PM

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Isn't that cuase Pre-registrations cost hundreds of dollers and require a membership in the fanclub?


To pre-reg, one doesn't necessarily need to be a club member, it just costs a little less to pre-register if you are a member (it's a difference of $40 -$50). And the price itsself depends on which pre-reg package you take.

There's one for everything (five-figure boxed set w/ a certificate of authenticity, tech specs and convention pin, the opportunity to buy a bagged set, convention name badge, convention program with comic, admittance to the sales room including the Private Sales Room Experience on Friday and Early Bird privileges on Saturday, admittance to the Awards Party, admittance to all convention panels/seminars, $50 in gaming coupons for Awards Party and Casino night and an extra exclusive figure) Cost for registration is $299 for non-members, or $249 for club members

Then there's the reduced set (convention pin, name badge, convention program with comic, admittance to the sales room including the private preview) Cost is $159 for non-members or $114 for club members

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Posted 11 October 2006 - 10:10 PM

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I have a feeling though that BotCon 2006 will be hard to compare against BotCon 2007, since we had SO MANY attendees, although perhaps a summer con will show higher PREREGISTRATIONS than walk-in registrations.


I wager a higher amount of pre-regs will be due to the location, the "perks" (like touring the Hasbro plant) the time... and oh, the teeny itsy bitsy fact the movie is within a week or two of the con. icon-fire.gif

Note that teeny weeny itsy bitsy fact (yanno that movie thing)... you can't really base things on an "Ultra-uber-yehaw-yippee-doo-joygasm icon-silverbolt.gif icon-silverbolt.gif icon-silverbolt.gif " event, to judge which season is "best" I'm afraid.

Hell, my Dad (who doesn't even like TF's in the geek-glee manner I do) might even Pre-reg. Just because it's "special"

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Posted 11 October 2006 - 10:16 PM

yup, Sticking to walk in. I just don't care enough about it to pay the same amount that my train tickets gonna cost to go to a TF con..



And the reason why its 40-50 dollers cheaper for club members is becuase... They don't have to re-up their membership.. They are allready members.. Correct?


See to me.. 9 bucks to get in is a suitable expenditure.. 159, or 299 isn't. Especially when I don't want to be a member of the fanclub. so that is the same as tossing 50 bucks down the toilet..

five-figure boxed set [w/ a certificate of authenticity, tech specs and convention pin] = Crap
the opportunity to buy a bagged set.. Why would I need an extra set?
convention name badge... Uhh.. I thought most conventions gave you a lanyard regardless of pre-reg status?
convention program with comic... 10 bucks.. So exciting.
admittance to the sales room including the Private Sales Room Experience on Friday = Crap
Early Bird privileges on Saturday = Crap
admittance to the Awards Party = Crap
admittance to all convention panels/seminars.. I need to Alert GW.. They let the free entrance people at gamesday into these.. Think of all the money they could be making..
$50 in gaming coupons for Awards Party and Casino night = Crap, just cut 50 bucks off the cost of the pre-reg.
an extra exclusive figure.. K,

Not to drastically change the subject.. But this was brought about becuase of the " More pre-regs means more money for FP" Ofcourse it does.. Cuase they jack your wallet when you pre-reg for worthless stuff.. In my opinion.

So regardless of if it makes any money for FP (Who I don't care if they make any money or not) I think that If I attend the 07 convention I will be contended with a walkin pass.


*edit* One does not simply Walk Into Botcon!

Edited by Morningstar, 11 October 2006 - 10:24 PM.


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Posted 11 October 2006 - 10:22 PM

Wow. We complained when we had to have our convention in the fall for two years straight, but I didn't see anything even approaching the level of petulant, self-absorbed dimwittery I'm seeing in that thread.

Yeah, let's move the date of this multi-million dollar movie so you don't have to bring a sweater to your convention. You didn't see this coming? When BotCon was shoved aside into late fall just so the Joe fans could keep summer, you never even considered that it might be nice to trade off every now and then? If that's the case, I have no sympathy for the Joe fandom whatsoever.

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Posted 11 October 2006 - 10:44 PM

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five-figure boxed set [w/ a certificate of authenticity, tech specs and convention pin] = Crap
the opportunity to buy a bagged set.. Why would I need an extra set?
convention name badge... Uhh.. I thought most conventions gave you a lanyard regardless of pre-reg status?
convention program with comic... 10 bucks.. So exciting.
admittance to the sales room including the Private Sales Room Experience on Friday = Crap
Early Bird privileges on Saturday = Crap
admittance to the Awards Party = Crap
admittance to all convention panels/seminars.. I need to Alert GW.. They let the free entrance people at gamesday into these.. Think of all the money they could be making..
$50 in gaming coupons for Awards Party and Casino night = Crap, just cut 50 bucks off the cost of the pre-reg.
an extra exclusive figure.. K,


1.) Collectable. (Or resellable for a fair bit of a price hike -- see Ebay)
2.) I agree with you there. I had no desire to buy a second set.
3.) *shrugs* was a cool thing to have the VA's sign - and no you got a hand stamp as a walk in.
4.) Again a Collectable.
5.) Was fun and less crowded.
6.) Again less crowded.
7.) Didn't care much for it. But it was a free meal. And a fairly good one I'm told.
8.) Well worth it. AND enjoyable.
9.) The coupons, that wasn't 50$ that was 200$ in gaming tokens to just futz with. (and or win toys)
10.) Collectable. (And resellable for a fair bit of a price hike)

And you forgot that admission also includes free Autographs. And admission to TF:TM, revamped before it is released on DVD. Being as one who has and had to scrape and save and whine and beg and do parlour tricks to go. (And is NOT a club member) The 300$ price tag ... was really worth it (imo, and I am far from rich). Sure there were some things I personally don't like. Never are going to like 100% of things in a "package deal"

The awards party was too crowded. And I don't gamble or drink. But still, it was worth it. I have absolutely no regrets what so ever. Matter of fact, my husband went as a walk-in. And on the way home... decided in 07' to go as a mini-con. (He is someone who is not really a fan of TF, but likes the atmosphere and people quite a bit)

To me however the membership to the club is not worth it. As I'd only use it to get the discount off the Botcon price. But it'd end up being the same price so... meh no huge loss there.

Never the less if the toys and what not don't interest you. Many people sell them off and end up at the very least paying for thier own admission fee, or most of thier trip.

... to each thier own.

As for the original topic. I find it rather petulent of the Joe people to whine. (Though some were quite maturely handling it) It's a "special" event. Period. How it's done this year does not dictate how it's done in the future.

Edited by Waspinator's Muse, 11 October 2006 - 10:45 PM.

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