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@  ▲ndrusi : (04 July 2020 - 10:47 AM)

(And the 0th anniversary of the last time I couldn't do math.)

@  ▲ndrusi : (04 July 2020 - 10:46 AM)

Today is the 24th anniversary of the day we fought off an alien invasion with the help of Will Smith.

@  Maximus Ambus : (04 July 2020 - 10:41 AM)

Oh the end of the Ottoman Empire of course.

@  -LittleAutob... : (04 July 2020 - 10:14 AM)

*ahem* 4th of July....

@  ▲ndrusi : (04 July 2020 - 08:14 AM)

Nothing of importance has happened before, and nothing of importance will happen again.

@  Maximus Ambus : (04 July 2020 - 08:12 AM)

Nothing of importance happened today.

@  Telly : (03 July 2020 - 09:54 PM)

i want a "i survived 'rona and all i got was this lousy t-shirt"

@  TheMightyMol... : (03 July 2020 - 03:42 PM)

Slogan for 2021: "I Lived, Bitch."

@  -LittleAutob... : (03 July 2020 - 03:23 PM)

They should make the next book in the Survivors series 'I SURVIVED CORONA VIRUS 2020'

@  -LittleAutob... : (03 July 2020 - 03:23 PM)

YEEEE I'M A SURVIVOR-

@  Nevermore : (03 July 2020 - 06:59 AM)

Probably gonna assemble Devastator after work.

@  Nevermore : (03 July 2020 - 06:58 AM)

Ooooh. Overload arrived. He's surprisingly fun.

@  Bass X0 : (02 July 2020 - 04:00 PM)

He's sweeter than the average bear.

@  Maximus Ambus : (02 July 2020 - 03:14 PM)

Convert him to Maple Syrup.

@  Bass X0 : (02 July 2020 - 03:10 PM)

what would Canada do with Yogi?

@  Cyoti : (01 July 2020 - 12:51 PM)

We can deport Yogi back to Canada now.

@  Sabrblade : (01 July 2020 - 12:50 PM)

Jellystone National Pawk. A westful wetweat.

@  Rycochet : (01 July 2020 - 12:47 PM)

Jellystone. We're going to be plunged into a decade of poor animation. Fortunately we've been led by bad cartoon characters for years so we won't notice much difference.

@  Maximus Ambus : (01 July 2020 - 06:19 AM)

what next? YELLOWSTONE?

@  Nevermore : (01 July 2020 - 05:46 AM)

Thanks, dead person.

@  Bass X0 : (01 July 2020 - 05:06 AM)

congratulations to all survivors of the first half of 2020.

@  wonko the sane? : (30 June 2020 - 10:21 PM)

21 for me, but after numerous repetitions I got it down to 17 and a half.

@  TheMightyMol... : (30 June 2020 - 06:16 PM)

I transform in six steps from human to human sitting on my ass at the computer and back again!

@  -LittleAutob... : (30 June 2020 - 05:55 PM)

x-x when in vehicle mode we can travel much F A R T H E R-

@  wonko the sane? : (30 June 2020 - 05:52 PM)

Because despite the fact that we can travel around the world in the time it takes to get a good nights sleep and a couple of meals: people rarely wander more than 25 miles away from home for the duration of their lives.

@  Otaku : (30 June 2020 - 05:49 PM)

I don't know how many days that trip takes - especially while sightseeing - but explaining they're 3936 kilometers (2445 miles) apart gives an idea, paradoxically because it is too large to easily picture.

@  Otaku : (30 June 2020 - 05:44 PM)

Aye.  When I catch lay people discussing miles and not how long the trip takes, it is in an attempt to stress how far away something is... like NYC to LA.

@  ▲ndrusi : (30 June 2020 - 01:20 PM)

But I can imagine 45 *minutes* easily.

@  ▲ndrusi : (30 June 2020 - 01:20 PM)

I can imagine a mile, it's a distance I've run. I can't really imagine 45 miles.

@  ▲ndrusi : (30 June 2020 - 01:19 PM)

I think there's also an element of the thing where things that are much bigger than us all blur together.

@  Otaku : (30 June 2020 - 11:49 AM)

If you're not, then you're more concerned with how long it takes.  Actual distance doesn't tell you that very well.  Besides traffic and road conditions, you'll need to know what kind of driving (city/interstate/rural/etc.).

@  Otaku : (30 June 2020 - 11:47 AM)

Distance matters if you're being paid by the mile.

@  TM2-Megatron : (30 June 2020 - 11:44 AM)

Canadians are the same way, for the most part. If you're driving somewhere far, especially, it helps you plan out the day more than a distance in KM would.

@  Otaku : (30 June 2020 - 11:42 AM)

We use the time it takes to get someplace because that is what is relevant to us.

@  TheMightyMol... : (30 June 2020 - 10:55 AM)

Because even we can't figure out miles half the time.

@  Paladin : (30 June 2020 - 09:54 AM)

it's a big country with a lot of empty space. between our citizens' ears.

@  Bass X0 : (30 June 2020 - 09:52 AM)

Why do most Americans measure distance by hours of driving?

@  TM2-Megatron : (29 June 2020 - 07:26 PM)

And as a result the world's lone blu-ray release of the film, an Australian disc that came out 7 years ago, now goes for hundreds of dollars on eBay. Thanks Disney.

@  TM2-Megatron : (29 June 2020 - 06:21 PM)

Well, they censored Daryl Hannah's butt in Splash :rolleyes

@  Paladin : (29 June 2020 - 05:43 PM)

maybe New Mutants is too bad even for D+.

@  Steevy Maximus : (29 June 2020 - 05:00 PM)

X-Men films are coming to Disney+ next month. But will they censor Hugh Jackman's butt?

@  -LittleAutob... : (29 June 2020 - 12:44 PM)

Pft.

@  TheMightyMol... : (29 June 2020 - 11:59 AM)

Behold! Night Strike Galvatron!

@  Bass X0 : (29 June 2020 - 09:53 AM)

I will grant you a recolored body, and recolored troops to command.

@  Cybersnark : (29 June 2020 - 09:47 AM)

I don't want to be reissued. This body sucks, I wanna be updated.

@  Nevermore : (29 June 2020 - 09:43 AM)

I definitely don't intend to be reissued. Nobody would buy me.

@  Bass X0 : (29 June 2020 - 08:31 AM)

will anybody else attempt to be reissued?

@  wonko the sane? : (29 June 2020 - 07:51 AM)

*Gasp* Decepticons re-writing history to serve their own needs?!?!

@  Nevermore : (29 June 2020 - 05:48 AM)

The whole point of the DJD is that they're fanatical Megatron fanboys (especially Tarn) to the point of having their own headcanon taking priority of the actual canon, simply speaking.

@  TheMightyMol... : (29 June 2020 - 04:01 AM)

They didn't know the war was over until later. And then they denied it anyway.


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#41 Powered Convoy

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Posted 13 May 2020 - 08:39 AM

I think it means that he is another Streak (known as Bluestreak) that upon seeing the Waruders had a protocol activated to make sure he destroyed them.

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Posted 13 May 2020 - 08:49 AM

I read it as implying that the Blue Bluestreak still is from the Diaclone universe, and that he was simply the first known case of having been given both life and the same protocol by Anterior Zeta, and that "he was changed" during an incident where the Waruder's Probe Insecter showed up in the TF world, in which case was his Diaclone mission protocol activated and thus changed him from how the Autobots had come to know him before that event occurred.

 

On the other hand, do we have a translation of Blue Bluestreak's extended profile to perhaps shed some additional light on this?


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I think the concept of being educated and being able to educate is something that more people need more of in their lives.

No, we don't all know everything but we should spread and share that what we do know.

If I'm consistently misspelling a word, I would want and expect people to correct me as should I imagine all decent people who know the value of good literacy.

Its just arrogant laziness to know you're spelling a word incorrectly and not correct yourself or ignore the advice when people do tell you how to spell a word correctly.

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Posted 13 May 2020 - 10:43 AM


Ok, so breaking down what I'm seeing here (mostly to help myself understand it):

- Diadem is an ancient Cybertronian data storage outpost somewhere in deep space. Kinda like the one from "Surprise Party" in the cartoon.

- Delta Magnus (the current one who was once Power Buggy) goes there to find Cordon's lost memories. He finds the place destroyed by a battle between the Quints and Cons and lots of data lost.

- Cordon's old memories are there, but he (Cordon is apparently there too I guess) turns them down.

- They find a chamber with Spin-Out in it. He's been in stasis for 10 million years but has a 20th Century Earth alternate mode.

- Anterior Zeta is the Computer Memory Bank that runs Diadem. According to Zeta, Spin-Out was a Diaclone Battle Mech from an Alternate Reality Earth that was pulled into the distant past of our reality by a Space Time Anomaly.

-Zeta has analyzed the Diaclone space ship and learned about the war with the Waruder. Feeling this threat must not be ignored he created a secret "Genetic Command Program" in his Repair network to detect Waruder and make their defeat top priority.

Then comes the part where I have real...

-QUESTIONS-

1) Ok, So first who brought Spin-Out to life and when? Anterior Zeta is a good candidate since he is named like Vector Sigma, but did he do it in the ancient past or the modern day and why was he kept in Stasis?

2) More to the point. It says Zeta made "Genetic Command Program" in the stations Repair Systems. So that's a Command program specifically to take over a robot and make them fight the Waruder over all else. He put it in his bases Repair systems. The only reason I can think to do this is to spread the program to any robots that the base repairs, yes? Is that what makes sense to everyone else?

3) What Magnus says seems to confirm this: "Its hard to believe there had been such an intervention with our race, yet we have already seen examples of this programming. " It sounds like Delta Magnus believes this Genetic command program has been spread to the Transformer race without their knowledge.

He continues: "There had already been the Bluestreak Case, where the Streak who encountered the Waruder armys Probe Insecter completely changed." Do we know anything about that event? Other than "Mysterious robot no one knew who looked like Streak but blue fought a thing that fits the Waruder description"? Because the way Delta Magnus say he "changed" combined with the Genetic Command program stuff above makes it hard to tell what it's saying.

Did Streak change to Bluestreak to fight the Waruder because of the Command Program hidden in him? Or was Bluestreak someone else who changed somehow After fighting the Waruder in a story we don't have the details of?

4) Finally the last bit sounds like Magnus IS worried about this command program being hidden in the general Transformer Populance: "We need to take action! If the Waruder are such an evil menace, I would fight them anyway. Nonetheless, the decision and determination should be our own!" And he wants to find a way to remove it.

ZacWilliam, It's cool regardless of what the answers to these questions are, again I hope for a Black Ironhide as new character release to continue this Storyline.
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#44 LV!

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Posted 13 May 2020 - 11:07 AM

For what it's worth, I definitely think it sounds like this story is saying "Streak went crazy, turned blue, and became obsessed with fighting Waruders, and now that we found Spin-Out and his genetic command program, we understand what happened".

 

I don't remember Blue Bluestreak's original writeup, though, so I have no idea how it might conflict with that.



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Posted 13 May 2020 - 12:15 PM

Blue Bluestreak always sounded like another guy and not the Bluestreak / Streak.

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MP-18B Cybertron Unknown Affiliation Bluestreak
Function: Unknown
Motto: Unknown
Profile:
A mysterious warrior coloured blue with a similar appearance to Streak operates on his own in the Asia region. His behaviour, purpose and background are unknown. Transforms into a Nissan 280Z-T and works undercover blending in amongst the lives of ordinary people. He rarely appears in public in robot mode. In combat he specialises in long range attacks utilising his hand held rifle and shoulder cannons; tactful and brave when facing multiple enemies.
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Extended bio:
https://www.flickr.c...N03/34825677580

Based on the extended bio, it could go either way.

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Posted 13 May 2020 - 12:17 PM

Yet another translation of Spin-Out's profile, but this one's even more confusing and less consistent with the previous two:

 

https://tfwiki.net/w...k:Spin-Out_(G1)

 

(translation by Star-Spangled Sam)

 

Profile: Spin-out is truly one of a kind. Originally a lifeless war machine known as a “Car Robot”, he was granted true life by an ancient Cybertronian supercomputer, becoming a super robot life-form. Though impulsive and hot-blooded, he has a strong loyalty towards Earthlings, showing a more gentle side around them. Having clear memories of his original existence, he harbours doubts regarding his ability to fight without the directions of a pilot.
 
Spin-out’s Lamborghini Countach LP500S vehicle mode speaks to the paradoxical nature of the mystery of his home universe. This is outlined below.
 
from the private records of Delta Magnus
 
Our plan to assault and secure the ancient Cybertronian Interstellar Storage Installation Diadem, and the vast quantities of data it holds, had taken a truly dismal turn. In the ensuing melee with the combined Decepticon/Quintesson forces… most of the precious data was lost. Of course, I’m delighted that Cordon was able to restore his memories of his origins, but it appears he has no desire to install them. What evidence we were able to recover was not what we expected. Our understanding of Cybertron’s history has been well and truly shaken. Discovered using the mysterious doctrines of Diadem, we found a single robot, Spin-Out, who had been frozen in a capsule for nearly ten million years. This means that Autobots who turn into Earth vehicles have existed in this universe for aeons!
 
What could this mean? According to the records of Diadem’s artificial brain, Anterior Zeta, Spin-Out is a war machine from the Earth of another dimension, one that became adrift in time and space and landed in our past. “Diaclone” - That is the name of the force he had once belonged to. Through analysis of his spaceship, Zeta came to learn of both Diaclone and their enemies, the “Waruder”, and took interest in their history. Perhaps Anterior Zeta had already lost control, or had been taken over… Regardless, Zeta entrusted to we Cybertronians the mission of Diaclone in secret. The ability to sense Waruders, as well as a genetic command to make their extinction our number one priority had been drawn up, and disseminated using the Cybetronian global repair network. Though it was difficult to believe that our species had been altered this way, there was already evidence for it. The Blue Streak Incident, where Streak went rogue following an encounter with the Waruder probe Insector, was proof. We must create countermeasures! If the Waruder are truly such a menace, how should we fight them? Whatever strategy we come up with, it must be one of our own volition!

Edited by Sabrblade, 13 May 2020 - 12:18 PM.

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QUOTE(Bass X0 @ Aug 17 2013, 08:20 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I think the concept of being educated and being able to educate is something that more people need more of in their lives.

No, we don't all know everything but we should spread and share that what we do know.

If I'm consistently misspelling a word, I would want and expect people to correct me as should I imagine all decent people who know the value of good literacy.

Its just arrogant laziness to know you're spelling a word incorrectly and not correct yourself or ignore the advice when people do tell you how to spell a word correctly.

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Posted 13 May 2020 - 12:24 PM

No. That second translation actually really helps I think.

They seem to be pretty much saying the same thing. This one just clarifies a bunch of things the first leaves vague and confusing.

Blue Streak seems to definitely be Streak under the influence of the genetic command program,

And it makes it more clear what the whole deal about putting the command program into the repair units was about.

This version just has better internal coherence and conveys the situation in a way that's more logical and understandable.

-ZacWilliam, I am a little sad about the Blue Streak revelation only because probably it makes any Black Ironhide less likely to be an original New Character like Spin-Out, and I would much prefer that to just "Anti-Waruder Ironhide."

Edited by ZacWilliam1, 13 May 2020 - 12:30 PM.

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Posted 13 May 2020 - 03:06 PM

Then why do both of Blue Bluestreak's bios call him a "mysterious/unknown warrior" who bears a "similar appearance" to Streak as though they were two different people?


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QUOTE(Bass X0 @ Aug 17 2013, 08:20 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I think the concept of being educated and being able to educate is something that more people need more of in their lives.

No, we don't all know everything but we should spread and share that what we do know.

If I'm consistently misspelling a word, I would want and expect people to correct me as should I imagine all decent people who know the value of good literacy.

Its just arrogant laziness to know you're spelling a word incorrectly and not correct yourself or ignore the advice when people do tell you how to spell a word correctly.

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Posted 13 May 2020 - 03:12 PM

Tuxedo Mask is a mysterious/unknown warrior who bears a similar appearance to Mamoru.

That doesnt necessarily mean theyre two separate people.

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Posted 13 May 2020 - 03:18 PM


Yeah, Batman is an unknown mysterious figure even if you know Bruce Wayne.

It means he looked like Streak but the colors were wrong and he's acting out of character and mysterious and so we don't know who he is...

-ZacWilliam, and NOW we know who he is, and why he looked and acted out of character.

Edited by ZacWilliam1, 13 May 2020 - 03:21 PM.

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